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Rahul Dravid's future in the ICC
Spirit of Cricket (IP Logged)
22 March, 2012 21:13
Cr@pinfo has already started lobbying for Dravid to start climbing the rungs of ICC. In one of the articles, one of the English blokes can't wait to welcome him to administration levels in ICC.

Meanwhile, Dravid makes some news of his own with an astonishing statement: Steve Waugh is my role model: Dravid

 
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Re: Rahul Dravid's future in the ICC
Birbal (IP Logged)
22 March, 2012 21:18
Yeah they will lobby for Dravid but against guys like Gavaskar...and Ganguly who have too much self respect and pride...and fall into the category of "uppity ni%^%%s" in their book

 
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Re: Rahul Dravid's future in the ICC
Spirit of Cricket (IP Logged)
22 March, 2012 21:20
I can easily see Dravid replacing Madugalle as chief referee of ICC.

Thus will the subcontinent continue to be fairly represented.

 
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Re: Rahul Dravid's future in the ICC
Birbal (IP Logged)
22 March, 2012 21:22
Hopefully Dravid will stay a MILE away from that job..

 
Atul
Re: Rahul Dravid's future in the ICC
Atul (IP Logged)
22 March, 2012 22:23
He has earned lot of money so he will be stay away form the Referee Job. But he speak very good english so I see him as future commentator. Plus ICC technical committee chairman.
He is the Only Indian Player adored by cricinfo.

 
thirdman
Re: Rahul Dravid's future in the ICC
thirdman (IP Logged)
23 March, 2012 05:25
He could turn psychologist and help ppl with Insomnia....just deliver another ora tion.

 
shilpa
Re: Rahul Dravid's future in the ICC
shilpa (IP Logged)
23 March, 2012 05:59
He was a pappu adored by chappell.
ICC and their mouthpiece ci are looking for a pappu recruit , brown colored who can be made to speak against his own bcci.

Dravid will not fall in this trap. He still I playing IPL and will be a commentator

 
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Re: Rahul Dravid's future in the ICC
Spirit of Cricket (IP Logged)
23 March, 2012 17:52
OK, my question to Dravid is this.

If Steve Waugh was your idol, how come you never captained the team as ruthlessly as he did?

Having witnessed numerous times how Waugh always backed his team members, even those clearly in the wrong - and indeed, egged them on - and taunted and sledged opposition, even abusing players like Ganguly - why were you always the nice guy, whether on field, at first slip, or in media?

Why couldn't you be ruthless like Steve Waugh if you were trying to copy his mannerisms and use him as a role model?

What does it mean to be like Steve? Just copy his duplicitous public and media style? There was a heck of a lot more to this guy than that. He was the worst of the Aussies, if you ask me.

 
Atul
Re: Rahul Dravid's future in the ICC
Atul (IP Logged)
23 March, 2012 19:03
Anil, Dravid is talking about his batting idol. In his interview he said that he can not copy Sachin/Lara because he can play strokes like them but like Steve he like to fight for his wicket and improve.

 
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Re: Rahul Dravid's future in the ICC
Birbal (IP Logged)
23 March, 2012 21:36
I have not seen white players say they idolized a non-white player, except maybe Garry Sobers...(who was so far better than anyone else it was scary)...and that says it better than anything else...

 
choor
Re: Rahul Dravid's future in the ICC
choor (IP Logged)
24 March, 2012 04:51
too many chips on too many shoulders here.

Brett Lee said he idolized Devon Malcolm of all people. Devon was mighty fast though - clocked at 90 mph at the age of 41 (I am sure Steve Waugh getting his stumps blown away in Adelaide 1995 will attest to this)

And if you don't believe me:
[www.guardian.co.uk]

"I'll tell you this: Devon Malcolm is remarkable. To be bowling consistently at more than 90 mph at 40 years if age is something else. If I'm still bowling at 40 it certainly won't be at 90 mph - and it will be a miracle if I'm bowling at all. Nearly all the Australian batsmen will tell you that the fastest bowling they have faced has been against Devon. He was a bit of an idol of mine, and he's a real gentleman too. Not that you need to be to bowl fast. But he is."

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The West Indians of the 70's and 80's would have filled many an idol list too.........

 
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Re: Rahul Dravid's future in the ICC
ananthd (IP Logged)
24 March, 2012 17:55
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Birbal
I have not seen white players say they idolized a non-white player, except maybe Garry Sobers...(who was so far better than anyone else it was scary)...and that says it better than anything else...

Birbal, I think you're selling a lot of players(especially multiple Aussies) short, a ton of them idolized many from the W.Indies of the 70s & 80s especially Viv Richards & the fast bowlers....

I'm sure there's a bias with everyone, but this brush seems a bit too broad...



24 needed with a bunny coming in at 11? No problem!

 
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Re: Rahul Dravid's future in the ICC
Spirit of Cricket (IP Logged)
24 March, 2012 20:46
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Atul
Anil, Dravid is talking about his batting idol. In his interview he said that he can not copy Sachin/Lara because he can play strokes like them but like Steve he like to fight for his wicket and improve.

OK, I see. Yes there is a resemblance between between their styles, although Dravid was by a very long distance the superior and more technically correct batsman. Waugh was an ugly batter who happened to enjoy playing under pressure. It was mainly his contribution as captain that justified his spot in the Australian team.

 
audioman
Re: Rahul Dravid's future in the ICC
audioman (IP Logged)
26 March, 2012 14:49
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Spirit of Cricket
It was mainly his contribution as captain that justified his spot in the Australian team.

Steve Waugh was one of Australia's greatest ever bats. He makes an all-time great Australian XI purely as batsman. Replace that with Mark Taylor and it kinda makes sense. But Stephen Waugh was worth his place purely as a batsman. All through his career.

 
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Re: Rahul Dravid's future in the ICC
ananthd (IP Logged)
28 March, 2012 16:06
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audioman
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Spirit of Cricket
It was mainly his contribution as captain that justified his spot in the Australian team.

Steve Waugh was one of Australia's greatest ever bats. He makes an all-time great Australian XI purely as batsman. Replace that with Mark Taylor and it kinda makes sense. But Stephen Waugh was worth his place purely as a batsman. All through his career.

Not all through his career. Not before he made the stand in 95 against Ambrose & co. But credit to him, he certainly was their best bat for the next decade.



24 needed with a bunny coming in at 11? No problem!

 
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Re: Rahul Dravid's future in the ICC
round rock (IP Logged)
28 March, 2012 17:39
steve waugh didnt get as much credit as his brother mark because mark was stylish and graceful, steve was ugly, awkward. if you want the end result, steve is the guy to go to.

some cricketers whose approach is not exactly elegant but highly effective

allan border
steve waugh
mike hussey
javed miandad
collingwood
hansie cronze
duminy
younis khan
jimmy adams
mike artherton

 
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Re: Rahul Dravid's future in the ICC
Birbal (IP Logged)
28 March, 2012 17:41
How can you leave out Shivnarine Chanderpaul from that list?!!!...smiling smiley

 
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Re: Rahul Dravid's future in the ICC
round rock (IP Logged)
28 March, 2012 17:44
chanderpaul must be the captain of this special team

 
shilpa
Re: Rahul Dravid's future in the ICC
shilpa (IP Logged)
29 March, 2012 08:00
Mike artherton was a piece of @#$%&.....who averaged 29 and 30 against Aus and WI....the two top teams of his times and with a career average of only 37.

In my team he would not get in even if he kept wickets.

 
audioman
Re: Rahul Dravid's future in the ICC
audioman (IP Logged)
29 March, 2012 13:56
You need to read this:

[blogs.espncricinfo.com]

A really excellent analysis I think. And look at Atherton having played 88% of his matches on tough pitches. Atherton was the Alistair Cook of his time. If Atherton was playing today, his career would very closely resemble Cook's I think. And we can all agree Cook has a very very good test record.

 
shilpa
Re: Rahul Dravid's future in the ICC
shilpa (IP Logged)
29 March, 2012 19:03
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audioman
You need to read this:
[blogs.espncricinfo.com]

A really excellent analysis I think. And look at Atherton having played 88% of his matches on tough pitches. Atherton was the Alistair Cook of his time. If Atherton was playing today, his career would very closely resemble Cook's I think. And we can all agree Cook has a very very good test record.


artherton averaged 29 against Aus and 30 against WI...the two top sides of his time....
With those averages he won't get in my team even if he kept wkts smiling smiley

 
audioman
Re: Rahul Dravid's future in the ICC
audioman (IP Logged)
29 March, 2012 20:14
If that tour of England was anything to go by, on the pitches Atherton played and kind of WI and Aussie attacks he faced, none of India's greats would do any better.

 
shilpa
Re: Rahul Dravid's future in the ICC
shilpa (IP Logged)
29 March, 2012 20:39
"that" tour of Eng is in 2011......

& Artherton's career ran throuhg the 90s......

a man who survived 12 years inspite of averaging 20 something....because of an English system that put more value on articulateness, english mannerisms and grammar/ priavte school etc.......

the most moderate of the specialist batsmen to have played 12 years non stop IMO

 
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Re: Rahul Dravid's future in the ICC
Spirit of Cricket (IP Logged)
29 March, 2012 20:58
Besides, Atherton was a cheat.

Routinely tampered with the ball.

Complete hypocrite and loser.

 
audioman
Re: Rahul Dravid's future in the ICC
audioman (IP Logged)
29 March, 2012 21:06
^ That makes Dravid and Sachin just as bad cheats.

As for Atherton, as mediocre as he was, he was also the best the English really had during that period. If he had been able to play on the belters of India, he would well have had a ~45 average, which would have been quite excellent in that era. The English pitches for the 2011 series were much much better batting tracks than almost ANY track Atherton batted on.

Talk about English grammar and schooling and whatever shows a very poor knowledge of the game and a very inherent stereotype in your mind more than anything else. It is the very equivalent of a sore Englishman still calling India a land of snake charmers. Pfft.

 
shilpa
Re: Rahul Dravid's future in the ICC
shilpa (IP Logged)
29 March, 2012 23:43
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audioman
^ That makes Dravid and Sachin just as bad cheats.
As for Atherton, as mediocre as he was, he was also the best the English really had during that period.

Lol, this shows the ignorance. Ever heard of Graham Thorpe? a contemporary of Arthetton for 8 years........he averaged 46 and 43 against those top sides where artherton agred in 20s



Talk about English grammar and schooling and whatever shows a very poor knowledge of the game and a very inherent stereotype in your mind more than anything else. It is the very equivalent of a sore Englishman still calling India a land of snake charmers. Pfft.


Yes my bad, there are some brown sahibs on this board to teach us about real English smiling smiley


 
Indian well wisher
Re: Rahul Dravid's future in the ICC
Indian Well Wisher (IP Logged)
30 March, 2012 02:06
^ LOL..very valid points by Shilpa..Atherton was indeed c.rap hyped up by Eng..

 
thirdman
Re: Rahul Dravid's future in the ICC
thirdman (IP Logged)
30 March, 2012 16:38
....Deliver more meaningless, long-winded, BORING, Bradman Orations.

He has a great future as a Neta


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