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Fire in Babylon
Posted by: Norwich SCCC (IP Logged)
Date: 27 February, 2012 13:18

This film is on BBC4 tonight at 10:00 and is about the all conquering West Indian cricket team of the 1970's and 80's.

I haven't seen it myself but it has decent reviews from cricketing and non-cricketing people alike. It should be worth a view.

 
Re: Fire in Babylon
Posted by: Kingston Black (IP Logged)
Date: 27 February, 2012 13:42

Thanks for that Norwich - That film has been on my wanted list for a while.

KB

 
Re: Fire in Babylon
Posted by: mama mia (IP Logged)
Date: 27 February, 2012 15:21

watched it over christmas, very interesting but a bit uncomfortable to watch, I have watched cricket for many years all over the world, and I must admit I do get a bit fed up with England always being cast as the only rascist nation.. Anyway enjoy and it was good to see Viv and Joel in their prime.
.

 
Re: Fire in Babylon
Posted by: Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
Date: 27 February, 2012 15:36

Well said, mama mia.

I too have watched it. and echo your sentiments exactly.

 
Re: Fire in Babylon
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 28 February, 2012 00:17

You miss the point of the film completely.
It wasn't pointing the racist finger at any team, or any country.
It simply told the story of the rise of West Indian cricket, through the eyes of those whp played an integral part in it.
Were we racist?
I don't know.
I do wonder how many black members of the MCC there were in the 1970's, likewise now.
I'm sure there weren't many women either for that matter.
Likewise I'm sure other countries had their fair share of ignorant bigots as well.
But that's not what the film was about.

If it made some people uncomfortable then that can only be a good thing.

 
Re: Fire in Babylon
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 28 February, 2012 01:15

Before I forget, can somebody please remind me what the then England captain, Tony Greig, said England were going to do to the touring West Indies....it seems to have slipped my mind.

 
Re: Fire in Babylon
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 28 February, 2012 03:01

Something to do with gravel I think Jim.

He wanted to teach them how to lay gravel, that was it......!

Grizzzly

 
Re: Fire in Babylon
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28 February, 2012 07:19

And that's a good example, BJ, of what you say. It's perfectly possible that Greig had nothing but the forthcoming cricket on his mind when he made that foolish quip. Equally, there is very little doubt as to how his comment was perceived by some of those in the opposition ranks.

 
Re: Fire in Babylon
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 28 February, 2012 15:34

Well, it was a pretty crass comment for him to make, & one which will haunt him for the rest of his days.

Grizzzly

 
Re: Fire in Babylon
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 28 February, 2012 16:20

I also love the idea that someone could be offended that we were portrayed as the "only racist nation".
The very fact that we were, or perceived as being racist is reason enough to hang our heads in shame.

I loved that West Indian team.
And I loved the way they smashed us off the face of the world.
Brilliant.

 
Re: Fire in Babylon
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28 February, 2012 17:04

Yes, we certainly got what we deserved in that series. Sweet FA, as they say...

 
Re: Fire in Babylon
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 02 March, 2012 21:43

A film which should be compulsory viewing for all cricket supporters!!

 
Re: Fire in Babylon
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 05 March, 2012 08:59

It has been reported that West Indian cricketer Runako Morton has been killed in a car crash.

RUNAKO MORTON

 
Re: Fire in Babylon
Posted by: Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
Date: 05 March, 2012 09:25

Very sad news.

I remember seeing him score a very powerful century against Somerset in 2007.

 
Re: Fire in Babylon
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 05 March, 2012 10:08

Sad sad news.

 
Re: Fire in Babylon
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 05 March, 2012 14:31

Sad indeed. A troubled life ended tragically early.

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