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Nailsea_Fizz
Re: 2018 WOMEN'S CRICKET
Nailsea_Fizz (IP Logged)
20 June, 2018 18:57
Well CH the question is why you bothered attending if you have such a low opinion of the format which I surmise you had formed prior to today

 
cricketharris
Re: 2018 WOMEN'S CRICKET
cricketharris (IP Logged)
20 June, 2018 19:19
I thought I would try to support womens cricket. I hadn’t watched T20 for a few seasons before.

 
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Re: 2018 WOMEN'S CRICKET
Grockle (IP Logged)
20 June, 2018 20:01
Saurav Gangulay is worried that bowling is becoming bad because of the short formats....

A good ball in T20 is an outswinging full delivery as close to the wide line as possible. Forget trying to get the ball in on the stumps, avoid a wide and stop them hitting it.

T20 is enjoyable when it is good but the bowlers need some help in the rules and if that removes the massive amount of sixes and fours the TV companies will be out the door so it isn't going to change.

Saurav, instead of making buckets of runs while you played, maybe you ought to have been complaining then. Maybe something would have been done but I personally doubt it. The game is now so bat biased that it is almost not a competition unless you are lucky to have 5 very very good bowlers.

Records are falling, are they bowling records?



(Sm72)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 20/06/2018 22:47 by Grockle.

 
chunkyinargyll
Re: 2018 WOMEN'S CRICKET
chunkyinargyll (IP Logged)
20 June, 2018 20:04
Well, bowling records are falling.

Just not in a good way.

 
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Re: 2018 WOMEN'S CRICKET
Grockle (IP Logged)
20 June, 2018 22:50
True. You don't see all that many rep[orts of T20 teams buying up bowlers. Mostly it's what batsmen they have.

I dislike the IPL because it seems to be more and more a huge batting line-up facing 5 guys - 2 internationals and an all rounder and a couple of decent but jobbing Indian professionals. Sometimes it works but very often it doesn't and it just becomes slogfest v slogfest with the biggest hitters winning if they don't swing and get themselves out missing a straight one or putting it down a boundary fielders throat.

More yawn for your buck.



(Sm72)

 
Bagpuss
Re: 2018 WOMEN'S CRICKET
Bagpuss (IP Logged)
21 June, 2018 07:57
Seems to me in the last couple of years it is the bowlers that are starting to command the big bucks in the IPL auction.

 
cricketharris
Re: 2018 WOMEN'S CRICKET
cricketharris (IP Logged)
21 June, 2018 08:38
Maybe that is the only way bowlers can be attracted what with the battering they suffer and the lack of the limelight. But what do I know? I am still reeling over the boredom of it. Good luck, Grockle, if you are going to sit through both games on Saturday.

 
chunkyinargyll
Re: 2018 WOMEN'S CRICKET
chunkyinargyll (IP Logged)
21 June, 2018 08:46
The reason bowlers attract top dollar is because batsmen who can score 20 plus in an over are two a penny.

Bowlers who can contain, and know how to bowl at the death are few and far between.

Simple case of supply and demand.

 
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Re: 2018 WOMEN'S CRICKET
Grockle (IP Logged)
21 June, 2018 10:41
The BIG question is; Is it T20 that demands bowlers are of a good quality or is it the rules that make it easy for batsmen and hard for bowlers? Are there more bowlers who could do T20 if there were less restrictions on them?

I can see the economics of the process but is supply retricted by the natural structure or the artificial limits of the game? One is market economics and the other is organisational market failure.

I'm sorry but a system where the aim of the bowler's game is to not let the batters hit the ball by putting it out of their reach doesn't work for me personally.

Using your skill to make them think the ball is where it isn't while it takes out the stumps or causes a mishit is the way the game is supposed to work surely.

One T20 game does not a format make CH. Good games are good games. Sorry you got a bad one. I've been to many formats where I've seen better. Guildford may very well be of that type this week though I'm sure we are all hoping not.



(Sm72)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 21/06/2018 13:12 by Grockle.

 
Mike BOS
Re: 2018 WOMEN'S CRICKET
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
21 June, 2018 11:53
No time last night to post any photos, and today things seems to be going against me, I was half way through typing a post and seem to have lost it.
It is one of those days you wish you hadn't started it.

So not much comment just a few photos.

http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p490/cricketphotos1/Cricket%20Photos/2018%20Somerset%20Cricket%20Photos/Womens%20Matches/England%20%20v%20South%20Africa%20%20WIT20%2020th%20June%202018/Dane%20van%20Niekerk%206%20runs%202.jpg

Dane van Niekerk hitting a six.

http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p490/cricketphotos1/Cricket%20Photos/2018%20Somerset%20Cricket%20Photos/Womens%20Matches/England%20%20v%20South%20Africa%20%20WIT20%2020th%20June%202018/Tazmin%20Brits%20off%20Anya%20Shrubsole.jpg

Anya Shrubsole causing a bit of a problem for Tazmin Brits with a ball that lifted off a good length.

http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p490/cricketphotos1/Cricket%20Photos/2018%20Somerset%20Cricket%20Photos/Womens%20Matches/England%20%20v%20South%20Africa%20%20WIT20%2020th%20June%202018/Nat%20Sciver%20bld%20Shabnim%20Ismal.jpg

Even women can be too clever with shot selection, Nat Sciver bowled around her legs by Shabnim Ismal

http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p490/cricketphotos1/Cricket%20Photos/2018%20Somerset%20Cricket%20Photos/Womens%20Matches/England%20%20v%20South%20Africa%20%20WIT20%2020th%20June%202018/Tammy%20Beaumont%204%20runs%20and%20her%20100%201%20of%202.jpg

Tammy Beaumont hitting four runs that also get her one hundred.

http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p490/cricketphotos1/Cricket%20Photos/2018%20Somerset%20Cricket%20Photos/Womens%20Matches/England%20%20v%20South%20Africa%20%20WIT20%2020th%20June%202018/Danni%20Wyatt%20missed%20stumping%20by%20Lizelle%20Lee.jpg

A missed stumping by Lizelle Lee with Danni Wyatt well out of her crease.

I will try and find time to post a few from the other match later.

 
Mike BOS
Re: 2018 WOMEN'S CRICKET
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
21 June, 2018 18:00
In reverse order, a few photos from the first match.

South Africa v New Zealand.

http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p490/cricketphotos1/Cricket%20Photos/2018%20Somerset%20Cricket%20Photos/Womens%20Matches/South%20Africa%20v%20New%20Zealand%20WIT20%2020th%20June%202018/Singer.jpg

A singer with a lovely voice.

Before each match this great singer did a live song representing each team.

http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p490/cricketphotos1/Cricket%20Photos/2018%20Somerset%20Cricket%20Photos/Womens%20Matches/South%20Africa%20v%20New%20Zealand%20WIT20%2020th%20June%202018/Sky%20TV%20presenters%20including%20Isa%20Guha.jpg

The Sky presenters (including Isa Guha) doing a pre-match presentation, it did look like they were doing it when the singer was singing.

http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p490/cricketphotos1/Cricket%20Photos/2018%20Somerset%20Cricket%20Photos/Womens%20Matches/South%20Africa%20v%20New%20Zealand%20WIT20%2020th%20June%202018/Sophie%20Devine.jpg

England should have a tougher match on Saturday against New Zealand.

Sophie Devine ready to hit the spinner off the back foot.

http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p490/cricketphotos1/Cricket%20Photos/2018%20Somerset%20Cricket%20Photos/Womens%20Matches/South%20Africa%20v%20New%20Zealand%20WIT20%2020th%20June%202018/Suzie%20Bates%206%20runs.jpg

Suzie Bates hitting a six, both openers hit a total of seven sixes, most would have been sixes even if the boundary edge was at maximum distance.

http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p490/cricketphotos1/Cricket%20Photos/2018%20Somerset%20Cricket%20Photos/Womens%20Matches/South%20Africa%20v%20New%20Zealand%20WIT20%2020th%20June%202018/Suzie%20Bates%204%20runs.jpg

Suzie Bates digging the ball out and getting an edge pass the stumps for four runs.

 
Mike BOS
Re: 2018 WOMEN'S CRICKET
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
21 June, 2018 18:33
Do the ECB think we already have floodlights?

This 5.40pm start for the second match was stupid, because of it being a cloudy afternoon it was so dark before the end of the last match that in normal times they wouldn't have been playing.

It was too dark for me to take photos about thirty minutes before the end of the match.

The brightness of the scoreboard had to be turned down and the electronic advertising on the boundary boards were turned off. (they returned two days ago)

They had to have a long break between the two matches because of the team that played twice. The answer would have been to start the first match at 11am.

Edit - Correction I rechecked when I had to turn the camera off, it was 6.58, so you can see how early it got dark.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 21/06/2018 18:46 by Mike TA1.

 
MESSAGES->author
Re: 2018 WOMEN'S CRICKET
Grockle (IP Logged)
21 June, 2018 18:42
The plan is the same for Saturday Mike.

Game 1 at 1pm Game 2 at 5:40pm. Expected end at 20:25



(Sm72)

 
Mike BOS
Re: 2018 WOMEN'S CRICKET
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
21 June, 2018 18:51
Yes Grockle I know, how stupid are these people?

perhaps you shouldn't answer that.

I edited my post above to correct my time of turning off my camera.

 
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Re: 2018 WOMEN'S CRICKET
Grockle (IP Logged)
21 June, 2018 19:51
Well if it is like tonight out in Bicknoller, it won't be a problem but you are right, if there is cloud cover it will be a different matter.

An earlier start would make sense as you say.



(Sm72)

 
cricketharris
Re: 2018 WOMEN'S CRICKET
cricketharris (IP Logged)
21 June, 2018 21:54
Timings are what Sky wants, nobody else.

 
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Re: 2018 WOMEN'S CRICKET
Grockle (IP Logged)
21 June, 2018 21:56
Well it wouldn't be the first time.



(Sm72)

 
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Women's T20
Grockle (IP Logged)
23 June, 2018 14:20
England 160 for 5 off their 20 against South Africa. Women's batting has come on somewhat as they now hit over the top and come up the wicket.

They also have more than one speed as shown by Tammie Beaumont and Heather Knight taking the English score from 100 after 15 overs to 160 off 20. Beaumont went from 50 off 47 to 71 off 59.

Good stuff



(Sm72)

 
MESSAGES->author
Re: Women's T20
Grockle (IP Logged)
23 June, 2018 14:51
Good initial fightback by SA who are 60 up in 7 overs.



(Sm72)

 
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Re: Women's T20
Grockle (IP Logged)
23 June, 2018 15:05
Lizelle Lee - South African opener 50 off 29 balls 3 fours and 4 sixes. She is taking this game away from England with a little help from her partner Sune Luus who is on 40 off 34.

BIG hitter of cricket ball as England try all bowlers from all ends to find a solution to the onslaught.

100 up at 11.2 - no worries Lee has taken 17 off 5 balls.



(Sm72)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 23/06/2018 15:08 by Grockle.

 
MESSAGES->author
Re: Women's T20
Grockle (IP Logged)
23 June, 2018 15:43
Anya Shrubsole on for the 19th with SA needing 17 off 12 after Sophie Ecclestone took 2 wickets in the 18th.

Missfielded four off ball one

Dropped catch off ball 2 and then the fielder tries to kill her with the return.

150 up with 7 balls to go

Excellent fielding hits the stumps but they get a second run. Very close Shrubsole ends with 24 for 2

So 9 off 6 to win.

And Luus takes the bit in her teeth hitting 2 fours and a six to take the win.

Excellent game.



(Sm72)

 
MESSAGES->author
Re: Women's T20
Grockle (IP Logged)
23 June, 2018 17:43
So England batting first against NZ in the second match.



(Sm72)

 
MESSAGES->author
Re: Women's T20
Grockle (IP Logged)
23 June, 2018 18:10
What is this obsession with 'ramps' and 'swats'? Hit the ball back over the bowlers head!!

The number of times you see 'batters' (the choice of women cricketers) of both genders manufacturing shots when shots already exist to dispatch the bad ball.

Another English batter done by going onto her knees trying to flip the ball over her shoulder when a straight drive would have achieved much, much more.



(Sm72)

 
MESSAGES->author
Re: Women's T20
Grockle (IP Logged)
23 June, 2018 18:29
Having failed to defend 160 earlier in the day, England have just passed 100 with only 7 overs left. Women's T20 par at Taunton seems to be something around 180.

We reckon a man's par score here is 210 plus?

The game has really moved on for both men and women



(Sm72)

 
MESSAGES->author
Re: Women's T20
Grockle (IP Logged)
23 June, 2018 19:03
England 172 for 8 after Anya Shrubsole hit 22 off 11 and Hazel hit 7 off the last 2.

They couldn't defend 12 less this afternoon so it will be interesting.



(Sm72)

 
MESSAGES->author
Re: Women's T20
Grockle (IP Logged)
23 June, 2018 19:22
Kiwis going at 10 an over presently p going to be hard to defend this.



(Sm72)

 
MESSAGES->author
Re: Women's T20
Grockle (IP Logged)
23 June, 2018 19:38
NZ being brought back into line with 50 only getting there in the 8th over for 3 wickets. England have to keep the boot on the neck though because there is a way to go yet.



(Sm72)

 
MESSAGES->author
Re: Women's T20
Grockle (IP Logged)
23 June, 2018 19:43
105 off 60



(Sm72)

 
MESSAGES->author
Re: Women's T20
Grockle (IP Logged)
23 June, 2018 20:16
Excellent 54 run win by England. No real problems and some excellent performances especially by Sophie Ecclestone with 4 for 18.



(Sm72)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 23/06/2018 20:18 by Grockle.

 
Mike BOS
Re: 2018 WOMEN'S CRICKET
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
24 June, 2018 10:40
Photos from the first match yesterday, England v South Africa.

The game England thought they should win and they didn't.

A very entertaining series, about the only moan is all teams need to improve on their fielding.

http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p490/cricketphotos1/Cricket%20Photos/2018%20Somerset%20Cricket%20Photos/Womens%20Matches/England%20v%20South%20Africa%20WIT20%2024th%20June%202018/Sune%20Luus%204%20runs%20and%20her%2050.jpg

Sune Luus hitting four runs and a well made 50 runs.

http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p490/cricketphotos1/Cricket%20Photos/2018%20Somerset%20Cricket%20Photos/Womens%20Matches/England%20v%20South%20Africa%20WIT20%2024th%20June%202018/Tammy%20Beaumont%204%20runs.jpg

Tammy Beaumont do play what looks like inventive (if that's the correct word) shots, this shot collected four runs.
If I remember correctly it was a shot like this that lost her wicket in the second match, I will check later.

http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p490/cricketphotos1/Cricket%20Photos/2018%20Somerset%20Cricket%20Photos/Womens%20Matches/England%20v%20South%20Africa%20WIT20%2024th%20June%202018/Heather%20Knight%204%20runs.jpg

The Women like the men do try clever shot selection, Heather Knight scoring four runs, I will leave it to you to describe the shot.

http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p490/cricketphotos1/Cricket%20Photos/2018%20Somerset%20Cricket%20Photos/Womens%20Matches/England%20v%20South%20Africa%20WIT20%2024th%20June%202018/Lizelle%20Lee%206%20runs.jpg

South Africa's wicketkeeper Lizelle Lee is a larger than the normal wicketkeeper (trying not to be mean) it does enable her to hit a hard ball, like this six.

http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p490/cricketphotos1/Cricket%20Photos/2018%20Somerset%20Cricket%20Photos/Womens%20Matches/England%20v%20South%20Africa%20WIT20%2024th%20June%202018/Chloe%20Tryon%20bld%20Sophie%20Ecclestone%201.jpg

Chloe Tryon was one of Sophie Ecclestone wickets, she must have feared what was a about to happen.

http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p490/cricketphotos1/Cricket%20Photos/2018%20Somerset%20Cricket%20Photos/Womens%20Matches/England%20v%20South%20Africa%20WIT20%2024th%20June%202018/Chloe%20Tryon%20bld%20Sophie%20Ecclestone%202.jpg

And it did.

It was great to see a nineteen year old spinner taking wickets, she did even better in the second match.

More photos to follow from the second match England v New Zealand.

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