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Essex T20 Thursday the 13th
Grockle (IP Logged)
12 July, 2017 19:18
Chelmsford on a Thursday evening - not the best away venue to play Essex but you go where the fixture list takes you.

No Corey Anderson for this one as the back spasm that kept him off the field for a large part of our game at the Oval worsens and we lose him completely.

Questions to be answered about the gamble to sign a man with an injury record and no second player if the gamble failed.

AND... what is the side going to do without him as he seemed to be a major part of the challenge we gave to Surrey.

So... the season continues.



(Sm72)



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Re: Essex T20 Thursday the 13th
AG on apple (IP Logged)
12 July, 2017 20:13
Which away venue were you hoping to play Essex at? Admittedly Southend or Ilford would suit us better as they turn but I think they've been out of commission for ages. I suppose Castle Park could have been fun.

 
Re: Essex T20 Thursday the 13th
Grockle (IP Logged)
12 July, 2017 22:29
I don't really care. Its pretty much of a muchness in Essex.



(Sm72)

 
Re: Essex T20 Thursday the 13th
Bobstan (IP Logged)
13 July, 2017 06:41
Not like you to be provocative, Grock. If your Essex remark concerns only cricket grounds Chelmsford is utilitarian but pleasant enough, Colchester really rather a lovely tree-lined ground in the shadow of the castle.

If you were speaking generally you can't have been to North Essex near its border with Suffolk. Some of the villages there are totally delightful.
Here's one to cause controversy perhaps: there is no town of comparable size in Somerset as lovely as Saffron Walden in Essex. And it has an international standard concert hall.

Farmer White talks of his eastern exile; I have a dreadful picture of him in the Far East - Lowestoft. I wouldn't wish exile there on anyone, least of all our correspondent. One of 2 or 3 blots on the landscape of my equal favourite county; the other one begins with S too.

What do you mean? This is a cricket site? So it is.

 
Re: Essex T20 Thursday the 13th
Grockle (IP Logged)
13 July, 2017 06:59
It's usually getting there from here, especially for 3 hours of cricket that makes it such a joy. I'm sure some bits are lovely....other bits? I'd rather be in Bridgwater on a wet day in winter. Now for the 'nuffin wrong with Bridgey' posts!!.



(Sm72)

 
Re: Essex T20 Thursday the 13th
AG on apple (IP Logged)
13 July, 2017 07:51
So, no Mr Anderson so it will take an actual team performance, most likely, if we are to be competitive with an Essex outfit that are usually pretty good at T20. It would be good not to be miles behind after 25 overs of the match this time.

No team can, surely, have a worse top order batting record vs the white ball than Somerset has this season.

 
Re: Essex T20 Thursday the 13th
Tom Seymour (IP Logged)
13 July, 2017 08:44
Pleased to see Myburgh in the squad, about time he had an outing.

How long does Jamie's sick note last for this time? Got to be a serious question mark about him.

Essex will be tough as they have already had the better over us this season, but its only T20 so someone may have an inspired evening. That's the nature of this half baked form of entertainment.

(Sm31)



A glass half - empty or a glass half - full?
Regardless, both glasses need filling up.

 
Re: Essex T20 Thursday the 13th
Loyal of Lhasa (IP Logged)
13 July, 2017 09:49
I am sure Peter Anderson (aka Gladiator) would drop everything if there were a chance of turning out for Somerset this evening. Give him a call, MM.



LoL

Sixty-nine Seasons a Somerset Supporter

 
Re: Essex T20 Thursday the 13th
Grockle (IP Logged)
13 July, 2017 10:16
Agreed about Johann Tom we could do with his batting without Anderson. You do know he was injured for the last one?

Fast bowlers are rarely T20 stars so not using Jamie if he isn't needed and requires back rest is probably a decent shout.

Though I suppose they could use him as an effect bowler (not bowl 4) so we could get him into the batting line-up.

Essex are good at this stuff and we haven't been. Could be a long 3 hours or a little shorter. Asks questions of our T20 squad early - not necessarily a bad thing in itself.



(Sm72)

 
Re: Essex T20 Thursday the 13th
AG on apple (IP Logged)
13 July, 2017 10:47
I see Tom Banton is in the named squad this time ... I know he did sub duties last time but I don't think he was formally part of the squad. He seems to have had some rather successful outings in T20 for the seconds, so his elevation seems like just reward. And if Steven Davies doesn't (finally) make some white ball runs soon then maybe Banton may get in the team as wk in this format?

 
Re: Essex T20 Thursday the 13th
Bagpuss (IP Logged)
13 July, 2017 12:21
In defence if Somerset's white-ball batting this season in the RLODC five batsmen made centuries and seven averaged 39 or higher. This just makes the performance against Surrey at the weekend more disappointing.

Reports are that Jamie O will start bowling next week.

 
Re: Essex T20 Thursday the 13th
AG on apple (IP Logged)
13 July, 2017 13:13
But they have, repeatedly, lost early wickets vs the white ball (I'd be surprised if we've had more than about one opening stand of 30!) and this theme continued at the Oval.

In a 20 over came there is, of course, far less time to recover from a calamitous start than there is in 50 over games.

I suspect that, on average, we've lost our second wicket inside 5 overs in white ball this season, with Davies's mind-bogglingly poor white ball form one of the chief issues.

 
Re: Essex T20 Thursday the 13th
Tom Seymour (IP Logged)
13 July, 2017 13:35
Reports may be that Jamie O will start bowling next week, but it still and probably does mean that he is a month or more away from full match fitness for the First team.

Gentle workout in the nets, then some outside bowling at a reduced pace, then some games for the Seconds and then selected for the First team if ready. That appears to be the way it goes, unless he has a relapse somewhere along the way.

I can't remember what his problem is this time. Is it another back problem? If so at his age it is a cause of concern.

I agree with AG, if Tom Banton is seen to be a wicket keeper / batsman in waiting, it relegates Ryan Davies to our third choice, and to think that Matthew Maynard was saying last year that he was the next bright kid on the block.



A glass half - empty or a glass half - full?
Regardless, both glasses need filling up.

 
Re: Essex T20 Thursday the 13th
Grockle (IP Logged)
13 July, 2017 14:36
Nah he didn't Tom. He said he was a player with possible potential to be very good. He was always an investment and never bought as a finished product destined for direct first team cricket.

“Ryan Davies is a great young talent. He has already represented England at age group level and I am excited about how we can help him develop in to the cricketer that we all think he can become.”



(Sm72)



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Re: Essex T20 Thursday the 13th
geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
13 July, 2017 14:42
If you look at the T20 table we are above Essex. Therefore in theory we are the better team.

 
Re: Essex T20 Thursday the 13th
AG on apple (IP Logged)
13 July, 2017 14:45
As for Jamie, the priority is, surely, to have the man available for that CC match in the first week of August.

If getting him ready involves a couple of white ball outings in T20 stuff towards the end of the block, then so be it. No, he's probably not ideally suited to it, but then which of our seamers is?

Our strength has become the consistency and discipline of our attack in the CC viz line and length but it is precisely those same attributes that tend to be easy pickings in T20, which favours purveyors of bassett's finest. The T20 side is unlikely to lose much by picking Jamie.

 
Re: Essex T20 Thursday the 13th
Tom Seymour (IP Logged)
13 July, 2017 15:42
Yes he did, Grockle. He said exactly that about Ryan Davies and how lucky we had been to secure his services to an AGM at the start of last year.

What's more he said he was guaranteed to start the 2016 season as first choice keeper, and was true to his word on that.

Where is he now?

 
Re: Essex T20 Thursday the 13th
AG on apple (IP Logged)
13 July, 2017 16:06
It was a truly awful decision to 'guarantee,' a first team place to an almos wholly untested player. Mind-bogglingly poor judgement, in my view.



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Re: Essex T20 Thursday the 13th
wsm fan (IP Logged)
13 July, 2017 17:29
Corey expected to be fit for Swalec per Matt

 
Re: Essex T20 Thursday the 13th
Farmer White (IP Logged)
13 July, 2017 17:45
I had intended to post this earlier but sometimes life gets in the way of cricket. Apologies. A bit of history.

I shall not be at Chelmsford tonight. It is one of the less endearing things about Essex that unless you want to get there from Suffolk or Norfolk or bits of Hertfordshire you have to go around or through London. The same applies if you wish to escape. In fact, I shall not be at many if any more away T20 games this season.

I have watched T20 at Chelmsford though. Not before 2010 because before that I had not considered T20 worth the candle. A judgement arrived at from all the evidence garnered from never having seen a game. Even the anguish of trying to keep up with the score in the 2005 final at The Oval via BBC World in a hotel room in Warsaw had not tempted me. They gave the score hourly which hardly does for a T20 encounter. An insufferable hour I waited before I knew ‘nearly there’ had turned into ‘YES!!!’.

Then someone forced the issue by buying me a ticket as a present for the T20 encounter with Kent at Beckenham in 2010. Kieran Pollard was marked down to play which at least introduced a modicum of curiosity. Just how far could he hit the ball?

‘We need to be there early. You need to be near the front at an out-ground or you won’t see a thing.’ I had not realised just how big an out-ground Beckenham is. Even so by the time the match started there were rows of packed seats all the way around the boundary and we were indeed in the front row.

I had come to see just what this T20 big hitting was all about. James Hildreth and a teenager by the name of Jos Buttler put paid to that idea. Hildreth scored 77 not out from 56 balls and Buttler 48 not out from 22. They managed just one six between them, and 20 fours. A feast of placement from Hildreth and powerful precision hitting from Buttler more than made up of the lack of sixes. Somerset closed on 189 for 4. Oh yes, and Pollard, the great hitter, was out for 1.

That Somerset innings revised my view of T20. It was not full of the slog strokes which were the downfall of so many batsmen trying to retrieve a match from far behind the required run rate of the old John Player League which is what I had expected to see. I was left with, and still carry in my mind, a clear impression of Hildreth and Buttler destroying the Kent attack with an array of classic cricket strokes. The difference being they were played with much more risk than they would ever be in the County Championship and therein lay the skill of the batsman and the opportunity for the bowler who holds his nerve.

As to the Kent innings. A target of 190 was beyond the normal range in those days. They never got going and crumpled for 105. Scoreboard pressure probably the main destroyer helped along by 3 for 15 from Alphonso Thomas and, never keep a big match player down, 4-15 from Pollard.

It was not only Kent that never got going. Peter Trego listed to bat at 7 never got in and bowled one over. Effectively Kieron Pollard was doing his bowling and the class top order batsmen in Somerset’s order were scoring the runs. After the match I saw Trego deep and long in conversation with Marcus Trescothick on the Clubhouse balcony. I wondered at the time whether he was expressing frustration about lack of opportunity. In the next match that season Trego batted at three and he has occupied somewhere in the top three or thereabouts in T20 pretty well ever since as far as I can recall.

Appetite wetted I took myself off to Chelmsford later that season for Somerset’s T20 there. I don’t recall so much of that match except Trego was now opening with Trescothick who scored 78, Pollard finally hit a six for me and was out for 16 and Hildreth ran the ball around the field for 43 as Somerset successfully chased down 174.

I do remember clearly one curious incident in the field which made me wonder if Trescothick had magical powers. Scott Styris was playing for Essex and came in with half a dozen or so overs to go. Essex were only two down and Ravi Bopara was stacking up runs at the other end. Styris was capable of taking the game completely away from Somerset. He had hardly arrived at the wicket when Trescothick, fielding inside the circle backward of square leg, motioned to the player inside the circle forward of square leg. He moved the open palm of his hand forward from his waist, then raised it in an arc away from his body and back over his head. The other fielder ran to Ben Phillips who was bowling. Phillips duly bowled. Styris duly drove hard. The ball duly went up in front of him, curved back over his head and fell straight into Hildreth’s hands at short third man.

I thought I would give it another punt in 2011 so off I toddled to Chelmsford again. Essex never got a look in. Trescothick and Hildreth put on an unbroken 127 in just under 10 overs for the third wicket and Somerset finished on 225 for 2. Trescothick hit 6 sixes in his 108 not out and Hildreth 3 in his 64 not out. Trego back at three helped Trescothick get Somerset going with 36 off 21 balls. Somerset’s overseas player, Roelof van de Merwe didn’t get a bat. The domination of the Trescothick-Hildreth partnership and the total collapse of the Essex innings from 36 for 0 off 3 overs to 82 all out in the 11th leave an impression still.

Somerset did not play T20 at Chelmsford again until 2015 but in view of my successful run their I decided to risk it again. It was only a calculated risk though because Somerset had a new opening batsman by the name of Gayle. I was not entirely relaxed though for Essex had Jessie Ryder at the top of their order and he could hit a ball.

Gayle seemed to dominate proceedings from the minute he walked out onto the field to warm up. He had a real presence whether in reality or manufactured in my mind by the publicity he has attracted I have no way of knowing.

Ryder was the first to dominate. He carried Essex to 90 for 0 in the 9th over and towards a score that might test even Gayle. It is not always the star that changes a game. Jim Allenby promptly shot out three of Essex’s top four, including Ryder and Bopara in the space of three overs. Essex battled on and finally set Somerset 177.

I had never seen Gayle bat and was bemused as he assessed the angles by pointing his bat down the pitch, defended for an over, pushed a single or two for an over and then hit two classic drives. All very well but the require run rate was rising. Then, like a superhero donning his uniform, in an instant he erupted and the ball had turned into a projectile being fired from a Roman Army standard issue ballista. I remember those two drives, as good as any you will see, and after that the white ball bisecting the sky, time and again, as it travelled far beyond Chelmsford’s narrow confines. It is not as difficult to hit a ball out of Chelmsford as it is out of most grounds, including Taunton. Gayle would have found it a greater challenge to hit a six which remained inside that ground.

He didn’t quite get Somerset all the way. 92 the limit of his endeavours. It came down to the last ball. Somerset needed one run. Gregory managed to hit it towards square leg but with no force. The fielder pounced and threw to the keeper. Max Waller, as fast between the stumps as in the field somehow managed to get his bat across the crease before the keeper got the ball to the stumps. Another of those Duke of Wellington moments in which Somerset seem to specialise.

I am at home tonight listening to commentary but I know that ground well enough to be there for every ball and twist and turn.

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