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Re: Glamorgan plus one T20
Grizzzly (IP Logged)
13 August, 2017 16:26
Yes, JM will certainly leave a big hole in our T20 team next season, if indeed he does exit entirely.

Maybe something can be worked around BR's idea.


Re: Glamorgan plus one T20
Grockle (IP Logged)
13 August, 2017 16:27
Yep. It is always funny how members of the other side's press corps always give up the ghost before we think of victory. Glamorgan boys all thought they were dead 2 overs out and we all thought they were in the driving seat with a rusty Peter and RvdM at the wrong end.

There should be a rule in a final over. Don't attempt a 'ramp' until it will win you the game!! Both of them tried it and both of them failed. Score a run a ball minimum and look for the boundary. All that was needed.

We still panic under scoreboard pressure. Again NOT the characteristic of a good T20 side.


Re: Glamorgan plus one T20
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
13 August, 2017 16:34
Is this all over? can we go back to playing cricket.

Re: Glamorgan plus one T20
Loyal of Lhasa (IP Logged)
13 August, 2017 16:48
... but if we beat Hampshire on Friday we shall probably qualify for the QF.


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Re: Glamorgan plus one T20
rodders (IP Logged)
13 August, 2017 17:02
No excuse for losing that - in T20 terms it was a gimmee - run a ball and wait - rubbish from the last two and we get what we deserve this season which will probably be nothing other than relegation.
In life you get what you deserve generally and we got MM...........?

Re: Glamorgan plus one T20
nelliec (IP Logged)
13 August, 2017 17:03
There were a few people today saying, unfortunately for us,that Myburgb is moving to Essex next year with his family.On a more positive note Max has apparently been offered a new contract.

Re: Glamorgan plus one T20
AGod (IP Logged)
13 August, 2017 17:10
Well if they want Bess to play regularly in white ball (and Matthew has said that they do) then if Max is going to be offered a new deal then perhaps VDM will leave?

Or are we going to try and prepare dust bowls for home T20 games and play all three of them?

I wouldn't object but your average paying punter might not take kindly to 135-8 beat 118 all out by 17 runs every week?

Re: Glamorgan plus one T20
AGod (IP Logged)
13 August, 2017 17:15
This result summed up the whole group for me.

A collection of mediocre and thoroughly inconsistent T20 teams with the group having all the characteristics (predictability wise) of a lottery.

But you have to say this was an amateurish ending from Somerset, it really was. In this match, we had Trego as a 'specialist number 8 batman," - why!? And Allenby managed to muster the strength to bowl one over (for once) but was otherwise a specialist number 6 batsman - also a bit unusual in T20. Just daft to not manage to get VDM onto strike.

I don't imagine Peter was amused with his role as a specialist number 8 batsman.

Re: Glamorgan plus one T20
hantssabre (IP Logged)
13 August, 2017 17:24
Think we will struggle to qualify even if we beat Hampshire as we are the lowest placed team on 13 games and all the overs beneath can either match or overtake us with their game in hand

Re: Glamorgan plus one T20
Botham (IP Logged)
13 August, 2017 17:53
My thoughts on a pretty enjoyable afternoon spent in the delightful company of my wife on Thatcher's Terrace. Apart from the barbecue starting over an hour later than the advertised time the day started well, with a brief visit to the beer festival in stragglers, on the way. We sat with a platinum member, who told us that Trego had fallen out with Mr Maynard.

Perhaps they made up, but as much as I love Peter, he didn't help as much today. I thought we missed a trick in the last over by not attempting a bye through to the keeper who was a long way back. We had two opportunities to do this and missed both and we lost by one run .

Although Alan boot made a contribution, I felt he got in and took a long time about doing so and then when we'll set he gave his wicket away, but Elgar and Hildreth did exactly the same

I feel we have too many average players on the side and those that we have could do with better leadership.

Maybe the difference today was that Clamorgan enjoyed a fair slice of luck, with two boundaries to fine third man.

Nevertheless, we enjoyed the day and may well return to such salubrious surroundings.

Re: Glamorgan plus one T20
cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
13 August, 2017 18:42
Just how did we manage to lose by one run with Craig Overton still in the pavilion with three overs left.

It was a a crass mistake to send in Peter Trego at that stage. Not surprisingly after his long absence, he looked all at sea, not even getting a bat on four very average half-trackers from Hogan and then de Lange. I would have put a premium bet on Craig lifting at least one of those over the ropes.

On the bad luck side of the equation, Somerset would also have won if Lewis Gregory`s straight drive in the power play had not knocked all three stumps at the bowler`s end out of the ground - and gone for a boundary instead.

Re: Glamorgan plus one T20
Rod1883 (IP Logged)
13 August, 2017 19:07
Unfortunately the title of the thread was prophetic.
Perhaps Friday's title needs to be something like Hampshire T20 minus 20

Re: Glamorgan plus one T20
Grockle (IP Logged)
13 August, 2017 20:25
Meant to be that Rod. It seems we have a mathematical chance still of qualifying but I hope we don't make it because we don't deserve it.

Botham posted we are a pretty average bunch with poor leadership. Not sure that we are that average but we are poorly balanced and our strategy has been wanting far too many times.

We were more competitive than last year but still too conservative and predictable. So. Let's get back on the drawing board over the winter and deal with the immediate issue now of keeping the county in CC1


Re: Glamorgan plus one T20
wsm fan (IP Logged)
13 August, 2017 20:28
Tues Midx to beat Glos
Thu Sur to beat Glos. Kent to beat Essex.
If those 3 come in we have a chance.
Realistically its a huge long shot but we arent out quite but very close.....

Re: Glamorgan plus one T20
Tom Seymour (IP Logged)
13 August, 2017 21:25
That's the pot calling the kettle black if ever I have witnessed it.

You hope "we don't make it to qualifying because we don't deserve it"? You have come down on others like a ton of bricks for making similar statements to that.

Spew out all the bile and rancour you feel is justified, but don't expect others to take you seriously dude.

A glass half - empty or a glass half - full?
Regardless, both glasses need filling up.

Re: Glamorgan plus one T20
Grockle (IP Logged)
13 August, 2017 21:36
You mean I call it as I see it Tom? You criticise me for 'toeing the party line' and then post this? Ha ha ha.

I can justify this position Tom. You want me to do that? Read my reports on the games. I've also agreed with the assessment of Botham tonight because when it isn't right I can state it and back it up.

I come down 'like a ton of bricks' on people like you when you make statements that you will NOT back up - partly because you generalise problems that mostly are based on nothing. I can discuss my belief and back it up with incidents that actually happened in the real world.

If we qualify we qualify but I personally don't think we deserve it as a T20 unit.

'Bile and rancour' about what?

I post balance. When it's good it's good and when it's bad it's not so good. Is that what you can't handle.

Our consistency is not good enough and we don't deserve to qualify in my personal opinion.

If you look back you'll find this is a consistent stance as I said exactly the same thing last year.

You don't take me seriously? You think that matters to me or many others on this site? You think they take you seriously? Poor boy.



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Re: Glamorgan plus one T20
Scrumper (IP Logged)
13 August, 2017 21:59
I hope we don't make it because we don't deserve it.

I can't believe this. T20 is a lottery, we might still get through. Do you hope we go down in the CC?

Re: Glamorgan plus one T20
Grockle (IP Logged)
13 August, 2017 22:44
Nope. I think we have more as a CC1 unit. I believe we can compete at CC1.

I don't believe that we are a good enough T20 unit. I haven't for more then 1 season. I'd rather see Kent in the T20 knock outs because I think they can contribute more to the competition as a unit.

The Southern region is a mess and we may get through. If so... so be it.

Are we one of the best 4 sides in the South? Over the competition not in my opinion and we will not add to the knock out section if our consistency is as it has been.

It's my opinion. It doesn't have to be yours.

In my opinion we have the wrong captain.

We do not have any idea who should bat where. Our bowlers are ill equipped for this type of game on the whole.

We bowl too short too often with seam and we do not play enough slow bowlers while our medium pacers who should be putting in the overs in the middle are hardly used Trego, Allenby. Bowl them if you play them or don't play them.

We don't know where to play Myburgh, We don't know where to play Elgar, We don't know where to play Hildreth, We don't know where to play RvdM. We under use the batting of Cove and Tim when he plays. We should not be using Lewis at all.

Our captain is predictable and inflexible. He has done better this year but not by much.

Shame about Hose but do we have other young batsmen we could have used? Banton?, Davies? R, Bartlett?, Byrom?, Rouse? Not sure and I'm not certain anyone else is.

It's just a mess and we are muddling through. If we muddle through then we do but please don't suggest that this is a meticulously planned campaign because it is anything but.

But it's my view on what I've seen. Some of it has worked and there is something to work on but can we honestly say that it looked like we had done lots of prep for T20 over the winter? I just can't see it though I have hoped to all season.

So if we qualify we do but I don't think we have done much to deserve it. But it is what it is.


Re: Glamorgan plus one T20
AGod (IP Logged)
14 August, 2017 06:49
Which teams in our group do deserve to go through? All have been average, to be honest.

Having said that, it may be better for us to focus entirely on CC1 rather than have some knockout T20 game to also prepare for.

So I too don't really want us to go through, put purely because we have bigger fish to fry and could benefit from a single-minded focus on that goal.

Re: Glamorgan plus one T20
chunkyinargyll (IP Logged)
14 August, 2017 07:21
AGod- Only problem with that is losing can be habit forming.

For years Middlesex thought they could completely ignore T20, because the championship was all that mattered. After a month of getting thrashed in every T20 game, everyone's confidence was gone, and championship form suffered.

You can't, unfortunately, swap two T20 losses for two championship wins.

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