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Somerset v Lancs Part Deux
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14 September, 2017 11:28
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 14/09/2017 11:51 by Grockle.

 
Bagpuss
Somerset v Lancs Part Deux
Bagpuss (IP Logged)
14 September, 2017 05:42
Sorry Grockle for starting a new thread but haven't been able to view the main one since yesterday morning as too big (usually a sign of a poor Somerset performance so who knows what banter has filled the pages this time)

I expect lots of pro-follow-on comments. To be honest the decision makes me nervous; Somerset batting and fourth innings have not been happy bedfellows this season, not least against our current opponents. But with only 9 scheduled overs (12 squeezed in) before the close of play and on-off weather likely first thing tomorrow not likely to overcook the bowlers (with no Jove or Lewis we need to be very careful with Craig and Tim for the next fortnight. No football warm-ups please!). And if it comes to a fourth innings chase, at least this time no Jimmy Anderson.

 
AGod
Re: Somerset v Lancs Part Deux
AGod (IP Logged)
14 September, 2017 06:19
See Jack's comments re: track - they think it may do an Essex.

If only our track would predictably either improve or deteriorate with time, life would be so much easier for our Captain.

I still think Lancs may have inserted us because they may have decided track would get better rather than worse.

 
AGod
Re: Somerset v Lancs Part Deux
AGod (IP Logged)
14 September, 2017 06:24
Geordie M - why, on the deity's green earth, were you watching Warks vs Essex rather than Somerset vs Lancs?

You know our game is also live on our website - just go to match centre on the website and you'll find a link to the Youtube feed..

 
Rod1883
Re: Somerset v Lancs Part Deux
Rod1883 (IP Logged)
14 September, 2017 08:22
Well, this is the day that could go along way to keep us up.
The weather forecast for tomorrow is very poor so we have to get them all out today for an innings win, or a very small run chase late on.
Come on Somerset, we can do it

 
AGod
Re: Somerset v Lancs Part Deux
AGod (IP Logged)
14 September, 2017 08:48
Yep need to finish it today.

Forecast for Uxbridge has improved, sadly.

I suspect that even a total of 200 may be enough for Middx to win by an innings vs Hants as Hants seem to have picked only four guys that can bat, two of whom are primarily bowlers (Berg and Abbott).

Realistically we'll need at least one very long stand from Jimmy Adams and Sean Ervine to hold Middx up.

I'd question whether Hants should be penalised for having Carberry out on loan with a bunch of novices in the team - isn't there something in the competition rules about having to pick your strongest team?

 
hantssabre
Re: Somerset v Lancs Part Deux
hantssabre (IP Logged)
14 September, 2017 09:00
Carberry is yet to reach double figures for Leicestershire unfortunately and Bailey is out with the World XI in Pakistan. Vince pulled a hamstring in warm ups so not a lot else left other than Will Smith but as he hasn't seen any first team action at all this season then one must assume he's on his way out.

Not really sure why Carberry was allowed out on loan in the first place and why they let Bailey pick up a large sum to sit out the first two matches in Pakistan but I guess Rod doesn't care too much about the CC!

 
Shepton Paul 2
Re: Somerset v Lancs Part Deux
Shepton Paul 2 (IP Logged)
14 September, 2017 09:22
Baggy's problem may be to do with making threads 'sticky'. On an iPad, that means they open as one long page, not split into 20-post pages. This can be a nightmare.

I would suggest that current-game threads aren't made sticky as they will stay near the top of the message list anyway...?

On the important business of the day: a good one for Jack to prove me wrong about him not taking a hatful of wickets in the second innings when we expect it to turn - tho tbh I don't care who takes the wickets as long as we win! Can be Tres and Davies for all I care.

 
Bagpuss
Re: Somerset v Lancs Part Deux
Bagpuss (IP Logged)
14 September, 2017 09:27
That's exactly the problem SP. Especially stickies with an article at the top of them. Hence starting a new thread I suspect I'm not the only one with this problem.

 
Bagpuss
Re: Somerset v Lancs Part Deux
Bagpuss (IP Logged)
14 September, 2017 09:32
No play before lunch at Uxbridge.

 
AGod
Re: Somerset v Lancs Part Deux
AGod (IP Logged)
14 September, 2017 09:55
SP - good idea about the match thread.

You're wrong about Leachy, though, he's had plenty of final innings success - including various home games last season, Yorks away last year etc.

I don't believe, for one moment, that Jack will let us down but I do suspect that Lancs have enough batsmen that can play that the law of averages will mitigate disposing of them so cheaply for a second time... if the track gets slower that may also mitigate against it.

 
cricketjerry-mouse
Re: Somerset v Lancs Part Deux
cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
14 September, 2017 10:21
Surprised you say that Rod Bransgrove doesn`t care about the county championship, hantssabre, when he shamelessly and obnoxiously slagged off Durham left, right and centre last year to make sure they were relegated despite finishing fourth - and that Hampshire, who won only twice all season, were reprieved.



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AGod
Re: Somerset v Lancs Part Deux
AGod (IP Logged)
14 September, 2017 10:33
Bransgrove is a disgrace to cricket.

It looks like we are delayed by half an hour - very annoying.

 
Bagpuss
Re: Somerset v Lancs Part Deux
Bagpuss (IP Logged)
14 September, 2017 10:40
11am start, lunch at 1, tea at 3.40, 96 overs in the day.
Prefer to wait for the outfield to dry a bit; a wet ball won't help the bowlers.

 
AGod
Re: Somerset v Lancs Part Deux
AGod (IP Logged)
14 September, 2017 10:43
SP - you'll be delighted to hear that this delay has given me the chance to get the Wisdens out... let's look at Leachy's final innings (of match) bowling efforts in recent times: Here are his final innings of match figures from last season:


Yorks home :21-8-33-1 (match drawn)

Middx home: 5-0-36-2 (!!) - lost the declaration game on total flat track.

Durham home: 17-3-46-4 - won

Warks home: 25-9-42-6 - won

Notts home: 21.2-5-69-4 - won

Strike out the Middx outlier and nothing to scare any horses there, I would say.

Yorks away: 24.3-4-64-6 - won

Middx away: 30-8-77-5 - match drawn

Lancs away: 40-11-105-2 - match drawn


183-48-472-30

Average: 15.73

E/R: 2.57

Strike rate: 36.6


So, SP, I think you can probably agree with me that we can put that notion to bed?

I think every other spinner in England would KILL for that strike-rate!!

But, of course, utter thick-head ECB apparatchik morons prefer Batty and Dawson.



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AGod
Re: Somerset v Lancs Part Deux
AGod (IP Logged)
14 September, 2017 10:57
It's 10:57 and I see neither covers nor umpires yet we are meant to be making an 11am start - what gives?

 
mikeindex
Re: Somerset v Lancs Part Deux
mikeindex (IP Logged)
14 September, 2017 11:03
Quote:
AGod
I suspect that even a total of 200 may be enough for Middx to win by an innings vs Hants as Hants seem to have picked only four guys that can bat, two of whom are primarily bowlers (Berg and Abbott).

Isn't it a bit premature to dismiss someone picked as a batsman by a first-class county as "unable to bat" simply because they are inexperienced and unsuccessful to date at the top level?

 
chunkyinargyll
Re: Somerset v Lancs Part Deux
chunkyinargyll (IP Logged)
14 September, 2017 11:07
I don't think making a thread 'sticky' causes the problem. It is presenting it as if it is an 'article' which people are then invited to contribute to.

Don't sportsnetwork rules require an article once a fortnight, or site closes? That's why Kev on MTWD always encourages someone to do a separate 'match report' Quite often they only attract one or two comments, but it solves the need to write an article, and you don't end up with one mega long page for the game as a whole.

 
AGod
Re: Somerset v Lancs Part Deux
AGod (IP Logged)
14 September, 2017 11:07
Some pleasing shape in terms of coming back into the batsman from TG in that opening over.

Mikeindex - they have no proven ability to bat and, if they could ever get on the park, the MIddx attack must be licking their lips!

 
AGod
Re: Somerset v Lancs Part Deux
AGod (IP Logged)
14 September, 2017 11:20
Really enjoying Tim's work so far this morning - very good.

 
AGod
Re: Somerset v Lancs Part Deux
AGod (IP Logged)
14 September, 2017 11:24
I think we can already see signs of better fight from Lancs this time around. They look like they will make us earn this - which is the way that it should be.

Could be a great battle, all day long..

 
mikeindex
Re: Somerset v Lancs Part Deux
mikeindex (IP Logged)
14 September, 2017 11:25
Agreed AG - but "unproven" doesn't automatically equate to "rubbish". Everybody was unproven once.

 
AGod
Re: Somerset v Lancs Part Deux
AGod (IP Logged)
14 September, 2017 11:27
Jack on the spot - teasing and probing immediately.

 
AGod
Re: Somerset v Lancs Part Deux
AGod (IP Logged)
14 September, 2017 11:32
Sachin might have nicked the second ball of the 22nd over, bowled by Jack.. Alex Davies? Not a hope in hell.

 
AGod
Re: Somerset v Lancs Part Deux
AGod (IP Logged)
14 September, 2017 11:35
Looking at the way Hameed dealt with the second ball of the following over, bowled by Dom, you can see why the man made all those runs last winter.

 
AGod
Re: Somerset v Lancs Part Deux
AGod (IP Logged)
14 September, 2017 11:41
Very pleased to see that Tom has moved the gully round to bat pad on the off-side for Leachy, when bowling to Davies - that is as it should be.

Given Craig's skill and reach then it's not really clear why the gully is needed - probably most balls that go that way, Craig would snaffle from slip anyway.

To keep up my run of commentary on the second balls of overs, the next over from Leachy the second ball was a poor one, a little short and far too wide - and Davies failed to put it away - hopefully a sign that the pressure is starting to get to him.

 
MESSAGES->author
Re: Somerset v Lancs Part Deux
Grockle (IP Logged)
14 September, 2017 11:50
Thanks for setting up the new thread. I mentioned it last night but I have no real idea when it starts to become a problem.

I've raised the issue of the article (where the site gets its revenue I believe) having to be there to keep the site open but I'll take the 'sticky' off and see how that changes things if at all.

I was working on a post size of about 100 but the thread went crazy after about 3:30 yesterday and was up in the 180's be the time I got to it in the evening.

I'll bring it up with SN again.... Nothing tends to happen though.

Have to agree though that it is good that this is happening during a match with a good Somerset performance rather than because of loads of moans which people may try and avoid anyway.

If it starts to become unmanageable for pad and mobiles users then please start a third thread and we'll see about when it happens.

That is assuming there is lots of good stuff to talk about as Lances pass 50 without loss this morning.



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AGod
Re: Somerset v Lancs Part Deux
AGod (IP Logged)
14 September, 2017 11:51
Davies fighting really hard - yet still looks very vulnerable.

I'd consider a bat-pad on the leg side for him, when facing Leachy, too - might get him stabbing late at an arm-ball or something like that.

 
AGod
Re: Somerset v Lancs Part Deux
AGod (IP Logged)
14 September, 2017 11:53
Next time that Hammed is on strike at the start of an over, we should slip Craig or Tim back on.... he just doesn't look like getting out vs spin, to me.

Dom not yet at his best, either.

 
MESSAGES->author
Re: Somerset v Lancs Part Deux
Grockle (IP Logged)
14 September, 2017 11:59
Possible stumping miss off Dom



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