Latest News:

GROCKLES.COM welcomes you all to the world of Somerset Cricket.

Many thanks to the Mighty Alexander Davidson for the montage. Time to the start of CC1 2018

Days or Hours or Minutes or Seconds

Old Pavilion Gimblett Hill General View Somerset Stand Stand Trescothick Stand
Ondaatje Pavilion Scoreboard Stand squad Colin Atkinson Pavilion Botham Stand
County Championship Info FPT20 Info CB40 Info Somerset Official Website Somerset Video Library Somerset Match Scorecard SCCC Ball by Ball

Goto Page: 12Next
Current Page: 1 of 2
No UberT20 at Taunton (IP Logged)
21 February, 2018 17:43
What do you think? You can have your say by posting below.
If you do not already have an account Click here to Register.

Re: No UberT20 at Taunton
Grizzzly (IP Logged)
21 February, 2018 18:11
Must admit I wasn't aware of the 15,000 capacity requirement.

No mention of the impact of the T20 franchise teams not visiting Taunton.

Given all of this, is there really much point in spending a load of money on floodlights ?


Re: No UberT20 at Taunton
nelliec (IP Logged)
21 February, 2018 18:49
Looking at our T20 home games this season,I think floodlights are a must Grizzly.
All our home Wednesday and Friday games start at 4.30 pm instead of 5.30pm last year.Why Ive got no idea?????, but there is no way you can expect say 2000 possible supporters to be given time off work to attend, or been given any chance of finding somewhere to park in rush hour traffic on a friday afternoon in the centre of Taunton.

Re: No UberT20 at Taunton
Tom Seymour (IP Logged)
21 February, 2018 19:11
"Let us not forget that we will be staging three matches during next year’s ICC World Cup which is a tremendous honour for the Club and the region as a whole."

Is this a monumental achievement Mr Cooper?

When the ICC World Cup was held here in 1999, all 18 counties hosted games in the Group and Super 6 stages of the competition, as did Ireland, Scotland and Holland. That did not include the semi - finals and final. Most counties (including our poorer cousins, and with respect to them Leicestershire, Derbyshire and Northants) were awarded 2 games, and some got 3.

Taunton hosted 2 games - India v. Sri Lanka and Kenya v. Zimbabwe, both of which I was fortunate to attend.

I imagine that there will be a similar distribution of games for next year’s competition. We have not been awarded these 3 games solely on the grounds that we have the “best county ground in the country.”

What absolute bilge!

A glass half - empty or a glass half - full?
Regardless, both glasses need filling up.

Re: No UberT20 at Taunton
Grockle (IP Logged)
22 February, 2018 03:58
There have been a number of comments about this 'best county ground' aspect on Twitter. Although I think it is one of the best, have we had some kind of award?

It was always a kind of 'elephant in the room' that we were spending money to get B category status and some seemed to think this would 'guarantee' some kind of income in the future. However most took the more realistic view that it was very little more than a bit of extra dosh on occasions. With too many Test grounds plus Bristol and Cardiff in the mix, the best we could hope for on a tri-annual basis was maybe an England v Bangladesh or Afghanistan match. To many of us that was a minor side show to the main one of creating better facilities for the watching public.

From the comments this week we find out that the ground is NOT finished as a B category venue and the T20 last season was a 'one off' until it is and the idea that we were going to survive with no TV and game money from the new competition by taking advantage of the 'many opportunities' for international cricket was always and will remain cloud cuckoo land. The false impression that we were going to get some games in the new UberT20 was always a false flag for convenience. It was never the plan - the Somerset faithful are not the audience and it would give no revenue to the Test grounds in cities that were always the beneficiaries. I do not think the ECB has finished marginalising the provinces yet so there may very well be more to come concerning one day and Championship cricket before the 2020 start of the debacle that will be T20.

Why didn't we know about the capacity issue?.

It looks very much like the floodlights, although sensibly financed, may be a little too late except to illuminate the car park for late night shoppers and provide an extra incentive for a supermarket chain to buy when the County Ground goes up for sale. My flat purchasing plans are still on hold as I see nothing positive beyond the medium term for the attractive but surplus to requirements County Ground.

Can anyone see when we are going to build the 2 to 3,000 seater stand which seems to be the minimum we need to create a 15000 person gate (with temporary additions)?

Unless the crowds flock in for 'Division 2' VitalityBlast 2020 - 2024 because there is no other cricket to watch this side of Birmngham and Southampton (except on the tv) I struggle to work out where the money is coming from.

It won't be from Mr Cooper whacking up the 'on the gate' prices so unless we make a lot from the T20's in the next 2 years and save it all I don't see B category arriving for the 2024 deliberations either.


Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 22/02/2018 04:23 by Grockle.

Re: No UberT20 at Taunton
Grockle (IP Logged)
22 February, 2018 04:02
Apologies for the state of the front page story. I was doing it in the dark without my glasses on and using the TV as a monitor because I broke my laptop screen. And that all showed. I've put it right this morning.


Re: No UberT20 at Taunton
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
22 February, 2018 09:01
Can anyone see when we are going to build the 2 to 3,000 seater stand which seems to be the minimum we need to create a 15000 person gate (with temporary additions)?

I was speaking to somebody yesterday who have seen plans for a two tiered stand in that big gap where the new scoreboard is going, with food outlets, office space underneath, I can tell you because it didn't come from somebody working for the club.

I was told next winter for it to be built, now with Grockles news story above will that rubber stamp it or will that change things, do they go for the extra capacity or now decide it doesn't justify the cost.

I keep saying this, the flood-lights have other uses other than just for International matches.

Edit - next season our T20 matches will be able to start at 5.30, and bad light day's

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 22/02/2018 09:04 by Mike TA1.

Re: No UberT20 at Taunton
Bagpuss (IP Logged)
22 February, 2018 11:25
As someone who has forgone her 2-3 T20 outings this year and downgraded to Champo membership I hadn't noticed the 4.30 start time. How very odd. I guess at least everyone will know exactly where their seat is when they finally arrive an hour into the game though.

A conspiratory theorist might suggest the club will have good reason to go ahead with the floodlights next winter, when they tell us that 1/3 of the ground was empty for the first hour, so we need to be able to push start times back to 7.

I do worry that floodlights will not prove to be the panacea for poor light in the future as I would expect them to come with a raft of restrictions on when we can use them. Half a dozen T20 matches, maybe a couple of day-night 50 overs an if we have a women's international or two that require provisions for lights our annual quota might not allow for much championship illumination.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 22/02/2018 11:32 by Bagpuss.

Re: No UberT20 at Taunton
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
22 February, 2018 12:00
Bagpuss, your 7pm start with flood-light is more realistic than my 5.30 start.

Re: No UberT20 at Taunton
Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
22 February, 2018 12:56
"Can anyone see when we are going to build the 2 to 3,000 seater stand which seems to be the minimum we need to create a 15000 person gate (with temporary additions)?"

We will need a lot more capacity than the proposed new stand to get up to the magic 15,000, Mike.

A cantilever stand over Gimblett's Hill plus a further stand between the Ondaatje and Somerset Pavilions (as we had for the International T20 last year) won't get us up to that magic number.

The capacity for that game was far short of 15,000. It is all a bit of a White Elephant as far as attracting regular "big games" is concerned.

Re: No UberT20 at Taunton
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
22 February, 2018 13:11
I did realise that Clarence, that would be part way towards it.

I did hear talk (just talk) about the Botham and CA Pavilion being replaced.

That is serious money so I can't see that happening any time soon.

Re: No UberT20 at Taunton
Railboy (IP Logged)
22 February, 2018 19:09
Haven’t seen the T20 fixture list myself, but could it be the 4.30 start time is 4.30 GMT and therefore 5.30 BST? Bizarre if so, but even crazier if it really is a 4.30 start.

Re: No UberT20 at Taunton
cricketharris (IP Logged)
22 February, 2018 21:35
Vitality Blast (which sounds to me something that should take place in private and behind a closed door) starts at Taunton at 2.30, 4.00, 4.30 and 5.30. Just to confuse the drunks.

Re: No UberT20 at Taunton
wsm fan (IP Logged)
22 February, 2018 23:27
The August home Weekday T20s are 4.30pm starts due to light worries.
So we have 2 Friday 5.30s. 2 Sundays 2.30 & 4pm.
Then in Aug 1 Wednesday 4.30 & 2 Fridays 4.30

Re: No UberT20 at Taunton
Grockle (IP Logged)
23 February, 2018 10:43
The stands set up for the South Africa game took us to 12000. If that is the case then something permanent now has to be considerably modified or we need 'mother' size temp stands in every bit of space. Doesn't it have to be temporary because we need it so infrequently?

What is the point of heavy duty investment when the quantity of the cricket where we sell out is going to decrease as we lose our place in 'premier' T20? No TV revenue either for those.

I understand that the managment think we can maintain audiences for the secondary domestic T20 series but without our main stars and international draw players I'm not so sure that the punters will turn up in numbers at spontaneous prices of up to 40 quid each.

I just don't see how the numbers add up.


Re: No UberT20 at Taunton
AG on apple (IP Logged)
23 February, 2018 12:17
I suspected, all along, that spending lots of money to try to get international cricket would not pay off (from a balancing the books point of view) and it now seems certain that it will not do so.

Re: No UberT20 at Taunton
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
23 February, 2018 13:14
There is another way of looking at spending money on more seating capacity.

Last season for the International match the increase in the expenditure involved on the previous year for seating and associated cost was -

Seating and Tentage £158,810
Rent and Preparation £138,059.

Those two items alone amount to £296,869 increase on the previous year.

How many years before it would it pay for itself without all that extra cost each time we held a big match?

Re: No UberT20 at Taunton
Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
23 February, 2018 13:35
To whom do we pay any "Rent"?

Re: No UberT20 at Taunton
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
23 February, 2018 13:53
I don't know Clarence, maybe there are items we don't own and rent instead.

Do we own those four electronic advertising displays around the boundary edge?

Re: No UberT20 at Taunton
AG on apple (IP Logged)
23 February, 2018 14:11
Let’s hope we’ve not been renting the scoreboard (TIC)

Goto Page: 12Next
Current Page: 1 of 2

Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
We record all IP addresses on the Sportnetwork message boards which may be required by the authorities in case of defamatory or abusive comment. We seek to monitor the Message Boards at regular intervals. We do not associate Sportnetwork with any of the comments and do not take responsibility for any statements or opinions expressed on the Message Boards. If you have any cause for concern over any material posted here please let us know as soon as possible by e-mailing

Who is online?

Total users online:  

Most users online:  

Users on this site:  

Where are they?