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POLLS 2018
Grockle (IP Logged)
01 May, 2018 12:53

Who is the Somerset Player of the Month for April 2018?

Eddie Byrom
Marcus Trescothick
Matt Renshaw
James Hildreth
Steve Davies
Lewis Gregory
Craig Overton
Jack Leach
Dom Bess
Josh Davey
Tim Groenewald
George Bartlett
Tom Abell

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The first one of the year... two CC1 matches.... hmmmm I wonder who excelled?



(Sm72)



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 14/05/2018 11:25 by Grockle.

 
mikeindex
Re: Poll: Player of the Month April 2018
mikeindex (IP Logged)
01 May, 2018 12:58
Four or five thoroughly deserving cases, but I think we'll find there's a standout.

 
AG on apple
Re: Poll: Player of the Month April 2018
AG on apple (IP Logged)
01 May, 2018 13:15
It's a walkover really, given how seam/swing friendly conditions were in the first two games.

 
chunkyinargyll
Re: Poll: Player of the Month April 2018
chunkyinargyll (IP Logged)
01 May, 2018 13:48
Someone up there is rewarding Somerset for doing the right thing in cancelling Bancroft's contract.

 
Somerset LaLaLa
Re: Poll: Player of the Month April 2018
Somerset LaLaLa (IP Logged)
01 May, 2018 19:04
Matt Renshaw's centuries were special, however we are Abell of greatness.

He oversaw the taking of 40 wickets, made 82 against expectations to set up a challenging target for Yorkshire and brought himself on to break an important partnership

 
Wickham
Re: Poll: Player of the Month April 2018
Wickham (IP Logged)
01 May, 2018 19:18
Lewis Gregory also deserves to be mentioned in despatches. He has taken key wickets at the beginning of most (each?) innings and, from what I have seen rom the highlights, has swung the ball prodigiously at times.

In recent seasons, he often looked to me to be careworn when walking back to his mark. Perhaps this was attributable to the constant pain he was apparently in - and, if so, his recent operation may have made a significant difference both in relieving the pain he was suffering from and to his performance as a bowler.

 
Mike BOS
Re: Poll: Player of the Month April 2018
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
01 May, 2018 19:31
yep, if Matt Renshaw had scored only one hundred then it would have been harder for me to choose.

 
AGod
Re: Poll: Player of the Month April 2018
AGod (IP Logged)
01 May, 2018 19:40
Personally, the nature/manner of the second one would trump anything else, even if it were the only ton that he'd made.

Let's face it, without that first innings knock, we may very well have made the sort of score (96), which our visitors did go on to make..

 
Loyal of Lhasa
Re: Poll: Player of the Month April 2018
Loyal of Lhasa (IP Logged)
01 May, 2018 21:24
May I make my usual plea that these awards cover matches of the same format? I am happy to vote in this poll, as only CC matches are involved. And I'd be happy to vote again, once to cover the CC matches from 4th May to 25th June and once for the whole 50-over campaign, then again for the whole T20 campaign and finally for the remaining CC matches from 12th August to the end of the season.

Grockle: Of course you don't have to take any notice of the above and I don't have to vote!



LoL

Seventy Seasons a Somerset Supporter

 
Grizzzly
Re: Poll: Player of the Month April 2018
Grizzzly (IP Logged)
01 May, 2018 21:52
Can't argue with the votes, but I think Tim G. & Josh Davey deserve a mention in despatches. They've both bowled excellently in the Worcs. & Yorks. games, meaning the opposition very rarely had any bad deliveries to enjoy.

Grizzzly

 
mikeindex
Re: Poll: Player of the Month April 2018
mikeindex (IP Logged)
01 May, 2018 22:06
Totally agree Grizz.

 
Bagpuss
Re: Poll: Player of the Month April 2018
Bagpuss (IP Logged)
02 May, 2018 07:36
As do I, Grizz. Indeed, were the choice to be Matt Renshaw v The Bowling Unit, the poll result should be a dead heat

 
chunkyinargyll
Re: Poll: Player of the Month April 2018
chunkyinargyll (IP Logged)
02 May, 2018 07:55
Surely the bowlers were simply exploiting helpful conditions- so doing what they should do.

But Renshaw making two hundreds in unhelpful batting conditions was a much bigger contribution (the difference between winning, or losing).

 
Grizzzly
Re: Poll: Player of the Month April 2018
Grizzzly (IP Logged)
02 May, 2018 08:13
Some might consider that a somewhat simplistic and a tad uncharitable Chunky.

Haven’t looked at the Middlesex stats., but 16 wickets at an average of around 16 and economy rates of 2.7-2.9 is pretty impressive as far as I’m concerned.

It’s one thing saying they were just doing their job, quite another to seeing them actually do it so well.

How are your chaps doing ?

Grizzzly

 
Somerset LaLaLa
Re: Poll: Player of the Month April 2018
Somerset LaLaLa (IP Logged)
02 May, 2018 09:23
April - Poor weather, green pitches and stupid scheduling with a lack of match practice.

Renshaw has nothing to lose, straight from the Ashes, by his own admission he just took it to the bowlers. So if he was out cheaply, what is that Blackbird song anyway?

Abell though has considerable pressures always. A Captain's performance which became more apparent is just what we must have to mount an effective challenge.

Elated for the Renshaw bonanza, but the result is not unanimous

 
cricketjerry-mouse
Re: Poll: Player of the Month April 2018
cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
02 May, 2018 09:35
What surely makes Matt Renshaw`s contribution outstanding was that, as he himself admitted, at the age of 22 he had never seen green, seaming wickets before.

Obviously not in Australia; not in India (certainly not in India) where he toured with the Aussies; and not for his one Test in South Africa when he replaced Cameron Bancroft.

And he had only been in this country for five days on holiday,when he was called to Taunton and had less than a week in the nets.

Must have been quite a surprise when Leach, Barnard, Brooks and Coad started bending the ball like a banana.

 
AGod
Re: Poll: Player of the Month April 2018
AGod (IP Logged)
02 May, 2018 10:27
I agree completely with you, Chunky.

Truth be told, I didn't think we bowled particularly well in the first innings vs Worcs, anyway, as the guys were, understandably, very rusty. Indeed, I wouldn't even say that we necessarily out-bowled Worcs in that match (though we certainly out-caught them and Renshaw and Hildreth out-batted them). Certainly, Barnard was the best bowler on either side in that match, without question.

Our bowlers got better in the second innings and improved again vs Yorks, as one would expect. The unit certainly did very well in both innings vs Yorks.

But you have to look at the conditions. If we'd just played a couple of games on millponds, I'd be looking for a bowler for whom to vote (should any have impressed), rather than just going for a batsman that had made lots of runs.



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That Bloke With The Dog
Re: Poll: Player of the Month April 2018
02 May, 2018 10:27
Trent Bridge 2015, day one, is a good illustration of what you'd expect to happen when Australian Test batsmen face good bowlers in overcast conditions. Even Chris Rogers and Adam Voges managed just a single run between them. What Renshaw has achieved in two out of four innings so far is staggering.

And Chunky is wrong. Somerset's bowlers haven't just been exploiting helpful conditions. There was nothing at all helpful about conditions on Monday: bright sunshine that left me, at least, sunburnt. It was just that the Somerset attack was so unrelentingly skilful and accurate that it looked like they were bowling in helpful conditions.

 
Somerset LaLaLa
Re: Poll: Player of the Month April 2018
Somerset LaLaLa (IP Logged)
02 May, 2018 11:20
Matt Renshaw has played in England before for the Australia U-19's:

[www.espncricinfo.com]

There are also a number of batters who have scored 150+ runs in their 4 innings so far, James Hildreth, Pope, Foakes, Borthwick, Northeast and so on (Amla 200 from 5).

Perhaps the performance is more outstanding at Somerset given the performance of our other batters. Anyway, to square the circle, how come no other county went for him and we wanted Bancroft instead?



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AGod
Re: Poll: Player of the Month April 2018
AGod (IP Logged)
02 May, 2018 11:37
I think we listened to Langer's recommendation (which seems to have been ill-judged, as indeed does Australian selection policy).



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/05/2018 11:38 by AGod.

 
chunkyinargyll
Re: Poll: Player of the Month April 2018
chunkyinargyll (IP Logged)
02 May, 2018 14:52
Grizzly- I'm sure the bowlers did their job well, but at a time when bowlers all around the country have impressive bowling averages, then a batsman making two centuries has made an enormous contribution.

Therefore, in my view, his contribution in times of adversity (difficult batting conditions all around the country) is a massive contribution.

I would say the definition of 'Man of the match' or 'Player of the month' is 'Who made the difference between winning, and losing' Clearly, no one person does it entirely on their own, but runs when hardly anyone else can get past 30 was the decisive factor.

Edit to add- you asked about Middlesex- Harris 13 wickets at 9.77 Murtagh 14 wickets at 11.36



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Somerset LaLaLa
Re: Poll: Player of the Month April 2018
Somerset LaLaLa (IP Logged)
02 May, 2018 15:09
'Who made the difference between winning, and losing'

How that talent is deployed often makes the difference between success and failure

 
Grizzzly
Re: Poll: Player of the Month April 2018
Grizzzly (IP Logged)
02 May, 2018 16:56
Can’t argue with that Chunky, which is why I said I didn’t argue with Renshaw as winner.

I simply said that TG and JD deserved a mention in despatches, which view I am sticking with !

Grizzzly

 
chunkyinargyll
Re: Poll: Player of the Month April 2018
chunkyinargyll (IP Logged)
02 May, 2018 18:18
Grizzly- I don't disagree. My first response was to Bagpuss, rather than your post.

I'm particularly pleased Josh Davey justified his 'horses for courses' selection in the first two games.

 
AGod
Re: Poll: Player of the Month April 2018
AGod (IP Logged)
02 May, 2018 18:41
Re: MoM - in actual fact, had there been a man of the match award for the Worcs game, it would probably have gone to somebody on the losing side... somebody who played brilliantly, but was nevertheless unable to 'make the difference between winning and losing,' in his case.

 
Grizzzly
Re: Poll: Player of the Month April 2018
Grizzzly (IP Logged)
02 May, 2018 20:12
Agreed Chunky and AG.

Grizzzly

 
MESSAGES->author
Re: Poll: Player of the Month April 2018
Grockle (IP Logged)
03 May, 2018 05:35
No surprise in the winner I would imagine

As

MATT RENSHAW



has just over 75% of the present vote and is some 63% ahead of the next player (Tom Abell), I think we can safely say that he is our April player of the month for the 2018 season.



(Sm72)

 
MESSAGES->author
Re: Poll: Player of the Month April 2018
Grockle (IP Logged)
04 May, 2018 08:30
With reference to the monthly polls.

I take your point LoL about the fact that sometimes the monthly fixture list covers more than one format but we have introduced a set of polls at the end of each format to identify players who have been significant in that campaign.

The monthly vote is to identify (and sometimes talk about) the influence particular players have had on the month's work.

Any voter has the right to identify one player's influence on one format as more significant and vote according to that. However I think we also need a marker of who is significant in the whole club's playing record at that time.

I did think about this though and realised that I should have had Tom Banton in the poll because his performances in the seconds were worthy of note (and continue to be so).

I will try and allocate the 'month' concept to the formats where possible (it sorts itself out at certain times during the year) and there may be a reason to offer 2 formats monthly polls should it become relevant at any time.

So I'll keep it in mind and thanks for the comment.



(Sm72)

 
AG on apple
Re: Poll: Player of the Month April 2018
AG on apple (IP Logged)
04 May, 2018 09:31
Yes and, quite frankly, that old adage about 'striking while the iron is hot,' should probably apply in the case of Mr Banton.

I expect that I shall see him personally on May 18, as I would think he'll be included in the white ball side at the Oval on that date. But will he still be in absolutely prime form by then?

Personally, if Trescothick doesn't get many here and, especially if he continues to shell chances in the slips, then I'd look to get Tom Banton in next week, vs Hants, for a CC debut, before his white ball debut.

George Bartlett's excellent innings vs Worcs means that the number three avenue is closed off for Banton, for now.

Old Trafford is usually a good ground for Trescothick, as he's historically been rather better vs pace, bounce and spin than he has been vs dibbly-dobbly's swinging and seaming it around under leaden skies/on green tracks.

Steven Davies could also use a score in this one. Banton has a 'keeping background, does he not? (albeit Fin Trenouth has been doing the job in the twos of late)

 
MESSAGES->author
Repost - May poll
Grockle (IP Logged)
19 June, 2018 14:03

Who is the May 2018 Player of the month

Eddie Byrom
George Bartlett
Matt Renshaw
James Hildreth
Steve Davies
Lewis Gregory
Craig Overton
Paul van Meekeren
Dom Bess
Josh Davey
Tim Groenewald
Roelof van Der Merwe
Tom Abell
Peter Trego
Tom Banton

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Sorry I rushed it and missed out a significant candidate. Sorry Ben but it was your starting month so maybe in June.


You are all going to have to vote again.


It's the Old Trafford CC1 to the rain affected Kent 50 over.



(Sm72)

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