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Grockle
05 July, 2018 11:32
I've just put up musings on the T20 this year. Our seam attack is very sparse

1. Cove is not there

2. Tim has a groin problem and that can niggle on and on for ages

3. Not sure the Meerkat is yet available or how useful he will be as of yet

4. Lewis is a moveable feast though he does start but is expected to be at the forefront of the captaincy, batting and bowling - big pressure for a man with his mind on other things as well

5. Pete will have to be back in to bulk up the attack

6. Josh Davey is the only other fit one available with no other pressures. I'm happy with that but big ask for him to step up.

7. There is Tom A of course - could be his tournament

8. Jamie? Who knows? T20 is not the usual format for out and out pace unless it is right on the money, used sparingly and where it works.


So 8 possible bowlers, 2 unavailable (possibly 3)

Questions about 2 of them and their value to the campaign

So 3 under BIG pressure - and then the spinners.



(Sm72)



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Tom Seymour
Tom Seymour
05 July, 2018 11:44
So its the same old, same old story.

Almost on a daily basis other counties are announcing their signings for T20 games this season, and yet Andy Hurry can't find anybody suitable. Jason Kerr states that he is happy with the depth in our squad, and that at the moment there is nobody available.

We don't have depth in our squad for any format of the game IMO, so I will be interested to see if Hurry is able to work any miracles in the T20 stuff.

I am not holding my breath, but I hope it will not be a completely disastrous campaign.



A glass half - empty or a glass half - full?
Regardless, both glasses need filling up.

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Grockle
05 July, 2018 12:01
But are you really hoping for that Tom? Really?

You are right however, our seam attack is particularly weak and yet we have seemingly no intention of bolstering it even though we were pretty certain we would probably lose our primary attack bowler for this tournament.

Is Cory going to bowl does anyone know?


The linking it in to the Renshaw return to Oz is just smoke and mirrors I'm afraid.



(Sm72)

wsm fan
wsm fan
05 July, 2018 12:06
We can always rely on Tom for that pre campaign optimism!

I jest a little but actually do share your concerns on this occasion.

Really are treating supporters like fools to say there are no options out there. 16 of the other counties have found 2 overseas, many 3 or even 4 to cover their campaign.

We haven't won it in 13 years and have not made finals day in years so fair to say we do not have a squad full of T20 stars.

I do feel we have a lot of potential but we will need a good start & to build momentum.

It looks like Abell will be batting 6 or 7.
A quality player but is he our ideal T20 number 6? Would Finch Bravo Russell etc not be deemed a better option by some?

Results are key.
Win Friday & Sunday and this all goes away, everyone is happy.
Lose and Andy&Jason have given us a rather big stick to hit them with......

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Grockle
05 July, 2018 12:16
If I might be allowed to use a footy analogy. The England side have out performed predications in that they are a young but mostly inexperienced side.

We need Somerset to do something along the same lines. We don't expect too much but the possibilities are there if they get off to a good start.

But we need that good start and we could be taken apart by the more experienced T20 sides at any moment.



(Sm72)

wsm fan
wsm fan
05 July, 2018 13:17
Just spotted Glos have signed Perrera for tomorrow at 28 hours notice, just to prove its not impossible to sign overseas.
Granted he is no Chris Gayle but principle stands there are options out there is we want them.....

AG on apple
AG on apple
05 July, 2018 14:06
We quite clearly do NOT want them.

Personally, I agree with the club on this, I'd sooner not waste any more money than absolutely necessary on this but their failure to admit that that is what they are really thinking too (actions speak far louder than words) is irritating.

To answer Grockle's question:

If Corey bowls, won't that just significantly increase the chance of his glass back going even earlier than it otherwise might?

Doesn't mean he won't - the lack of other options may mean he'll have to, but NOT a good idea, IMO. It's been ultra dry so maybe we can just pack the team with spinners and have done with it!? (not entirely TIC)

AG on apple
AG on apple
05 July, 2018 14:10
Logically, the club's position in not signing somebody (but not in pretending that nobody is available instead of admitting the truth) makes sense to me.

Privately, I'm sure they realise that Somerset are the opposite of hot contenders for the T20 cup (or whatever it's called)........... we're probably so far from being realistic contenders to win it that even a mega-star like Chris Gayle wouldn't be enough to close the gap ........................ and if the likes of Gayle wouldn't be enough to make a difference, then signing A N Other T20 international for the sake of filling our overseas quote would be exponentially less likely to do so.

AG on apple
AG on apple
05 July, 2018 14:24
Quote:
Grockle
So Jason is identifying the issue relating to the second International for the T20 is complicated by Renshaw's return home.
Why?

When did the club know Renshaw was returning home before the end of the season?

haven't they been aware of both situations since the start of this season? We knew we only had 1 T20 player since then for sure and we were also aware that Matt was not going to be in Taunton by August - though his injury brought it forward a bit.

Why is that a complication now?

The other news is we are 2 bowlers down at least for tomorrow. Neither Cove or TimG are available

3 spin option?

No doubt is seems that Lewis will go into the T20 as skipper.

So there we go. A few questions and the 'floodgates' of info open (Sm100)

I might be wrong, Grockle, but remember that rule about the number of overseas players that can be registered at any one time that infamously tripped us up with Cameron White? Perhaps it's still in force? I think the rule was something like it takes 21 days after notifying the ECB for a player to be de-registered, so maybe Renshaw is not yet de-registered. And I think no more than three could be registered at any given time... so if we're dead set on getting an overseas in for the trip to New Road (in the CC), we couldn't both register somebody for that AND find somebody else for the T20 until such time as MR has been de-registered? So maybe it really would have to be somebody to play *both* T20 and the CC if we want said player to be available for the CC1 trip to New Road, assuming that we want them registered before MR is de-registered?



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AG on apple
AG on apple
05 July, 2018 14:27
What's up with Leachy anyway? Is he actually injured now, or is he still out because of that mandatory wait due to the concussion after the blow from Morkel? Surely not the latter?

Roger ivanhoe
Roger ivanhoe
05 July, 2018 14:28
WSM Fan,The stock answer we seem to get from the club,
Is there is no one available that suits our (the Club) requirements.
So what are the Clubs requirements, UTOPIA

Perhaps the Coaches feel that we are not going to progress through the group stages,so why bother to invest in a second overseas.

or

Let's wait and see if Corey Anderson remains fit or for that the existing squad stay fit.

Jason comment that they would only bring in a world class player is an opt out IMO,
I am afraid they have left it late to expect a world class player sitting at home waiting for Somerset to call.

Come on then Andy and Jason surprise us and pull out a gem.

Following on
Following on
05 July, 2018 14:45
The following link is to Somersetlive
[www.somersetlive.co.uk]

In case my IT skills let me down the pertinent info is below:-

Somerset will delay signing a second overseas player for the Vitality Blast until after their first five group games.

That is because the club want to recruit a Championship replacement for the injured Matt Renshaw ahead of the match against Worcestershire at New Road, starting on July 22.

Regulations only allow two overseas signings to be registered for the same period. So, with Anderson already signed, Somerset had to choose between bringing in another T20 player for the early group games or a new face for the Championship.

Director of cricket Andy Hurry said: “The situation has been complicated, but we are hopeful of having a new signing for the Worcestershire match and then a later one for the Vitality Blast.”

Perhaps management are not as inept as some are suggesting?

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Grockle
05 July, 2018 14:55
It's the time line not the process AG.

We aren't here for the first time, we must know the time it takes by now and we are still caught between the rock and the hard place it seems.

It's like the Gregory situation. How long does the club need to sort these things from the moment they know to the moment they fail to plan it properly.

I also don't think the T20 and other international contracts inter relate unless you have a player who is down for all formats.



(Sm72)

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Grockle
05 July, 2018 15:01
Sorry posted at the same time as Following On.

The reason we are in this situation is because we did NOT plan our long term signing in advance.

Had we done that we would have had Renshaw's replacement onside in the time we needed to discontinue his contract, take a second T20 player and then have the long term option back in the fold for the games we needed him for.

We seem to have faffed about for another year when we had timetables to plan around and now have found ourselves unable to take advantage once again and will probably lose out on both another T20 player AND, once again, with a second half CC1 player.

If, of course, the quality we require was ever available!!


To be honest, we may need the bodies as well as the skills!



(Sm72)



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cricketharris
cricketharris
05 July, 2018 15:51
Of course there is also “the warm-up” before tomorrows game to increase our injury worries.

I would agree not to waste money on hiring any further players for T20. The crowds will come anyway. The difference in cash between the few empty seats, without a Superstar and the players salary will be negligible.

The temporary Priory Bridge Road stand (which is depicted on the new painted plans around the ground so maybe not so temporary) is much smaller and rather grander than the one there last year which was a monster (for the England game I suppose).



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Roger ivanhoe
Roger ivanhoe
05 July, 2018 16:11
Gloucestershire 14 man Squad: Klinger (c), Hammond, Hankins, Cockbain, Perera, Howell,
J Taylor, M Taylor, Higgins, Norwell, van Buuren, Payne, Smith, Roderick.

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Grockle
05 July, 2018 16:13
You are probably right about the T20 extra CH. The fact we are going to wait probably suggests that we have no idea how good we will be in this tournament and may very well be spending money for no reason either in a good or a bad way.

Have to say I agree with you that the punters will come in numbers we can work with and it isn't always a bad thing to blood players in a tournament where they play together in a concentrated period of time.

We might still get a decent run, though I'd personally like a few more miles in the bowling.



(Sm72)

cricketharris
cricketharris
05 July, 2018 16:42
I would hope that it’s all hands to the championship pump which we have a reasonable chance of winning maybe for the last time before it’s abolished rather than exert too much energy,of all sorts, on anything else. Everything else is just froth.



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Grockle
05 July, 2018 17:47
Concentrate on replacing Renshaw with someone valuable for that seems to be the best policy for sure. But there's some hit and giggle before that. Middle of the summer with wall to wall sun. What more do you want but cricket from 5:30 to 8:30 in the evening?


Madness.



(Sm72)

Roger ivanhoe
Roger ivanhoe
05 July, 2018 20:17
Somerset will be without Craig Overton (side) but Corey Anderson is available for selection and Head Coach, Jason Kerr has named the following squad for the match:

Tom Abell, Corey Anderson, Dom Bess, Josh Davey, Steve Davies, Ben Green, Lewis Gregory (c), James Hildreth, Johann Myburgh, Jamie Overton, Peter Trego, Roelof van der Merwe, Max Waller.

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Grockle
18 July, 2018 20:33
The plan for the 10 ball over seems to have been binned by the ECB for the new 100. Probably will go with 20 5 ball overs according to The Cricketer.

Seems they are going to try this thing out at Tent Bridge between the 14th and 23rd of September - BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. Could it get any weirder?



(Sm72)



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Mike BOS
Mike TA1
18 July, 2018 20:43
Is it written on a 'white paper'?

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Bagpuss
18 July, 2018 21:10
If the ECB play a hundred ball match and there's no-one there to see it, did it actually happen?

Loyal of Lhasa
Loyal of Lhasa
18 July, 2018 21:59
Certainly there will be no noise of bat on ball.



LoL

Seventy-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter

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Bagpuss
18 July, 2018 22:25
Some might say playing behind closed doors will mimic perfectly the conditions expected when the tournament itself actually starts.

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Grizzzly
19 July, 2018 03:40
Hopefully it will be played in the dark, in a padded room, with all lights switched off.

Grizzzly

Loyal of Lhasa
Loyal of Lhasa
19 July, 2018 17:28
We must add some screechy music.



LoL

Seventy-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Bobstan
Bobstan
19 July, 2018 17:33
Did you have in mind a composer from the Suffolk coast, BB?

Loyal of Lhasa
Loyal of Lhasa
19 July, 2018 17:37
Him indeed, or the man who wrote for Psycho.



LoL

Seventy-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter

cricketjerry-mouse
cricketjerry-mouse
20 July, 2018 01:13
Here`s the latest 100 Bash then for 2020.

No six-ball overs any longer. Just 10 overs of 10 balls, bowled either by one player or two, at the captain`s discretion.

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