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20/20 continues its path to world domination?
Jeff Coleman (IP Logged)
03 February, 2010 10:29

 
Re: 20/20 continues its path to world domination?
Seaxe_Man (IP Logged)
03 February, 2010 10:36
Yeh, I saw that Jeff and posted on the IPL thread.

Sounds as if it may well happen. Goodbye Slurry, formerly the richest county.

 
Re: 20/20 continues its path to world domination?
Jonathan Winsky (IP Logged)
03 February, 2010 20:30
The Cotswold Journal report that Hampshire look likely to be the county to sign a deal with the Rajasthan Royals.

The cricket supporter in me is glad that Middlesex do not look like being the county to sign the deal as I am quite happy with Middlesex's Twenty20 colours of pink and the nickname of the Panthers (not that I had any issues with Crusaders). I see no reason why we should change our Twenty20 colours unless we chose to support another worthy cause, as it raises money for Breakthrough Breast Cancer and will forever be associated with our win in 2008. A lot of members will be disappointed if we start wearing blue just because Rajasthan tell us to. As for 'Royals', I thought that was Worcestershire.

However, the other side of me thinks it is shame that we will not be signing a deal that would have allowed us to sign the cream of Rajasthan's young talent and may have made us into a force in Twenty20 cricket.



http://www.hof.org.uk/showthread.php?t=2403&p=19514&viewfull=1#post19514

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Re: 20/20 continues its path to world domination?
Jonathan Winsky (IP Logged)
05 February, 2010 09:11
Now thisiscornwall.co.uk confirm that Leicestershire are in talks to sign the deal.



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Re: 20/20 continues its path to world domination?
Jonathan Winsky (IP Logged)
05 February, 2010 11:42
Wisden Cricketer deputy editor Edward Craig says on Twitter that the deal has gone to Hampshire.



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Re: 20/20 continues its path to world domination?
dan the man (IP Logged)
05 February, 2010 12:24
Good!

 
Re: 20/20 continues its path to world domination?
Seaxe_Man (IP Logged)
05 February, 2010 16:12
But dan.

Eoin's Bangalore or Ace's Kolkuta could be in the frame.

 
Re: 20/20 continues its path to world domination?
dan the man (IP Logged)
06 February, 2010 09:58
Dont care whos in the frame, these clubs/franchaises have no history, why should I be excited at as merging with some purely money making enterprise?

 
Re: 20/20 continues its path to world domination?
selincourt (IP Logged)
06 February, 2010 12:02
Quote:
dan the man
why should I be excited at as merging with some purely money making enterprise?

As an alternative to strenghtening Middlesex finances by increasing membership subscriptions ?

 
Re: 20/20 continues its path to world domination?
Jonathan Winsky (IP Logged)
08 February, 2010 17:21
Cricinfo, the Daily Telegraph, St Helens Star and Guardian confirm that as expected, the county that has linked up with the Rajasthan Royals is Hampshire.

The articles talk about playing a tournament at Lord's in July, so I guess that would have to slot between Middlesex v Bangladesh on the 5th and Pakistan v Australia, which takes place 13th-17th.



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Re: 20/20 continues its path to world domination?
Darren Gosling (IP Logged)
09 February, 2010 21:49
I'm completley with Dan on this one.
I honestly believe that the future of the 4 day game is seriously numbered due to the title of this thread.
It's alright for those that say extra revenue generated from 20/20 will strengthen our County Championship side but are those with this view really that blind that they can't see this is the beginning of the end of the 4 day format in England & Wales.
You have only to look at this season's fixture list to see what a nuisance the Cch fixtures are becoming, to the point we will have completed nearly half our 4 day fixtures (or not thanks to the weather) by mid May.
Reducing the number of Cch fixtures was voted against this time around, but you can bet your bottom IPL dollar that next time there is a vote the Cch fixtures will be certainly reduced to make room for even more 20/20, IPL, Chamopions league, money, money and even more money.
At the end of the day if 20/20 continues as the thread suggests, then the county game will die as it brings in no money - and that it seems is all that matters these days.
Re the franchaises - it will end up like the Scots and English Premier leagues only 2 or 3 counties will be in contention to win it - the rest like the other 18 teams chasing Man Utd & Chelseas (Eng) and 9 teams chasing Celtic & Rangers (Sco) will just be fodder for the top two. Basically if a county does not get themselves into a franchaise then I can't see them surviving. With there only being 8 IPL franchaise teams, it would seem quite a few counties will be falling by the wayside in the 20/20 years ahead.

 
Re: 20/20 continues its path to world domination?
BeefyRoberts (IP Logged)
09 February, 2010 21:59
Darren,i fully agree with everything you have put here.I have put same sort of thing on another thread but i do fear for the county set up in the future.
The idea of a franchise ' club ' doesnt do anything to me in the world of cricket.

 
Re: 20/20 continues its path to world domination?
selincourt (IP Logged)
09 February, 2010 22:15
The four day game is needed for test cricket to survive, T20 cannot prepare cricketers for a five day test match.
I'm assuming that MCC's principle aim is to preserve test cricket. However,it is clear that MCC wish to be involved in a T20 franchise. It appears that this is not considered to be mutually incompatable.

 
Re: 20/20 continues its path to world domination?
Jeff Coleman (IP Logged)
09 February, 2010 23:05
Have you seen some of the attendances at this winter's tests? They don't make money in most test playing countries, so in those countries I am not sure there is a desire for test cricket to survive.

 
Re: 20/20 continues its path to world domination?
Jonathan Winsky (IP Logged)
09 February, 2010 23:34
The Times say that Middlesex rejected an approach from Rajasthan last year, and that Surrey are looking to link-up with a franchise.

The Guardian say that the festival tournament that the teams plan to play in July is in doubt as Rajasthan have not sought permission from the BCCI for the release of India internationals.



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Re: 20/20 continues its path to world domination?
selincourt (IP Logged)
10 February, 2010 08:19
Quote:
Jeff Coleman
Have you seen some of the attendances at this winter's tests? They don't make money in most test playing countries, so in those countries I am not sure there is a desire for test cricket to survive.

I certainly appreciate that test cricket is losing popularity in a number of countries. However, I am sure that test matches between England and Australia at the very least will survive. The whole question of funding may need to be looked at but I believe there is a strong case for the survival of the four day game even without financial test match support. Indeed, IMO four day cricket is as important as a concept as test match cricket.
Perhaps T20 could replace test match revenue as a milch cow for the four day game ?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/02/2010 08:54 by selincourt.

 
Re: 20/20 continues its path to world domination?
Vic. (IP Logged)
11 February, 2010 07:14
Isn't Dubai known as the betting capital of the world? Look at the fantastic racing facilities which have been built and the interest which has been raised.
One wonders how long before we see floodlight failures in 20/20 matches, strange results and let us not forget that it is possible to bet on anything and not just the outcome of a match.
Is 20/20 clean? Is the new money coming in here for the entertainment?

 
Re: 20/20 continues its path to world domination?
Sussex Seaxe (IP Logged)
11 February, 2010 08:48
I think you may have a very good point Vic. Cricket's early days were strongly surrounded by betting and it was cleaned up (mostly) once structures came into place.

There are always unscrupulous people who look to take advantage of any opportunity, whether above or below board. Very few people remember the results of 20/20 matches after a couple of days, unless of course it is the Rose Bowl we're talking about, so opportunities for underhand activities without them completely ruining reputations, records or careers do exist.

Let's hope the powers that be are alert to it, although that's one thing I wouldn't place a bet on.

 
Re: 20/20 continues its path to world domination?
Jonathan Winsky (IP Logged)
11 February, 2010 09:32
Lalit Modi has announced that the Champions League will take place 10-26 September, and he has said that he wants the ECB to bring forward the end of the county season so it does not clash with the Champions League.

It looks inevitable that the next time there is a vote on a reduction of County Championship matches, there will indeed be a reduction. People who, like myself, enjoy going to Championship matches would be disappointed, but nearly everyone else would be happy.



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Re: 20/20 continues its path to world domination?
Jeff Coleman (IP Logged)
11 February, 2010 10:08
Think I made a mistake in putting the question mark at the end of the title.

Re the betting issue, I was talking to a player last summer who told me that they had been talked to by the ECB prior to the Stanford shambles. They were warned to avoid even the most innocuous questions such as will you be wearing sunglasses today? There is betting on how many will take the field with sunglasses, either on their nose or back of their head. Another bet is how many times in an innings will the keeper take the bails off. Makes him very wary as to incriminating himself.

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