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Q & A. Part 2
Middlesex till we die (IP Logged)
06 December, 2017 17:41
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Re: Q & A. Part 2
BeefyRoberts (IP Logged)
06 December, 2017 21:00
Thanks Roy,in depth report.
Just one...Why was a review of last county season passed to an outside agency to see where we went wrong?

Hope these QnA sessions continue,as it looks a really good way of keeping members abreast of what is going on.

 
Re: Q & A. Part 2
chunkyinargyll (IP Logged)
07 December, 2017 07:05
How can the review be passed to an outside agency?!!!!

Who will do it?

Ofcom?

Ofsted?

The Police complaints commission?

The only people qualified to judge were a cricket team went wrong are retired and present day cricketers.

If it's going to be an 'outside agency' maybe we are going to ask Alec Stewart and Surrey to carry out an independent review of were we went wrong for us.

We already know were we went wrong.

Essex. Set the tone for the rest of the season.

 
Re: Q & A. Part 2
BeefyRoberts (IP Logged)
07 December, 2017 08:54
If the works took place from Winter 2018 for our Room being in the Allen upper,would it be ready for the new season in 2018?
Just thinking that,going by how long the Warner Stand actually took.
Also,if work was to start and delays,would mean one more area less for us to use and for H&S would it put the seats outside the old room out of action?

 
Re: Q & A. Part 2
Primrose Hillbilly (IP Logged)
07 December, 2017 10:16
Failure to score enough first innings runs to enable us to dictate the course of the game thereafter and place the opposition under pressure.

Lesson 1 - Get a substantial first innings lead.

Lesson 2 - Refer to Lesson 1.

To where do I send my fee note, made out in Guineas, Imperial Pounds, Shillings and thruppeny bits, to reflect the age and enduring wisdom of the advice?

 
Re: Q & A. Part 2
Seaxe_Man (IP Logged)
07 December, 2017 12:26
Quote:
BeefyRoberts
Thanks Roy,in depth report.
Just one...Why was a review of last county season passed to an outside agency to see where we went wrong?

Hope these QnA sessions continue,as it looks a really good way of keeping members abreast of what is going on.

Beefy/chunky.The outside agency (employment) question was not explained as to why? And it prompted no response that I can recall from the punters.

Principally I suspect because the MX section of the audience already knew the answer as to why relegation happened.

As to the the employment of the outside agency.

My guess is that the Board want to make sure that the review is seen to be neutral and without judgement made by vested interests.

Just guessing but assume MX staff will be interviewed but who knows.

ie they (The Board) do not wish MX members to get the wrong perception when the review hits the fan.. I don't think I am a 'million miles away' on that IMHO.

Of course the 64 dollar question is this. When this Review Report is published. Will the MX membership, around 8500 in number, get to see its conclusions? Often promised but seldom happens.

The Middlesex Room conclusions (location of) to be reached by the MCC Committee is a similar situation.

Will MX get a look in and the General Membership appraised by seeing it's findings?

Of considerable interest to the General membership as the questions on the MR dominated. Lets face it. With its demise we (MX) aint' left with much facilitywise.

 
Re: Q & A. Part 2
Seaxe_Man (IP Logged)
07 December, 2017 12:42
Quote:
BeefyRoberts
If the works took place from Winter 2018 for our Room being in the Allen upper,would it be ready for the new season in 2018?
Just thinking that,going by how long the Warner Stand actually took.
Also,if work was to start and delays,would mean one more area less for us to use and for H&S would it put the seats outside the old room out of action?

Beefy. From what was said at the Q and A by Guy Lavender. In his view only two feasible options.

1. Reinstate the site in the Lower Allen. This looks by far the most achievable and was supposed to have happened this year 2017. And we reasonably could expect that to happen in early? 2018.

2. Because MCC require office space, the reason for the current situation, then moving the MR to the Allen Upper could happen. And may well be the preferred choice.

However, from observation, that would seem a much bigger task. and costly. As Fingers pointed out a lift is required.

Putting in a bar and restaurant facilities no small job. The one there now. Not adequate. Carpeting, glass partition, it goes on.

Dress code questions if access via Pavilion in smart casual wear.

The original Room in 1989 was heavily sponsored by the late Ron Gerard and Gubby Allen. Plus the Seaxe Club and various sponsors at that time.

If OK'd. Work on this option could not commence until the winter of 2018.

 
Re: Q & A. Part 2
chunkyinargyll (IP Logged)
07 December, 2017 13:47
Seaxe_Man-

I take your point that a review by an outside agency might make management look open and transparent- but an equally valid opinion is that if they really don't know what went wrong, and need someone to tell them, then that looks pretty damn incompetent.

If the idea is players will only give their thoughts confidentially (so management don't know who said what in the review) what are they going to do if the review comes back with 100% blame attached to the captain? They've already said they expect Franklin to remain in post- so that must be pre-judging this review before it has been completed. Or what if they all blame Scott? Already a bit late to go shopping for a replacement if all the players confidentially put the blame on him.

First rule of management- Never conduct an independent review in to your performance, unless you know before hand it will exonerate you of any blame.


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