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We are on the Rhodes to Nowhere
Middlesex till we die (IP Logged)
23 July, 2018 22:22
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Re: We are on the Rhodes to Nowhere
adelaide (IP Logged)
23 July, 2018 23:03
There is something you can do to avoid getting caught at short leg off a middled shot. Keep it on the ground! Yes, it was a fine catch and the ball wasn't far off the ground but I don't recall the Cowderys and Graveneys of this world getting caught off middled shots.


Adelaide

 
Re: We are on the Rhodes to Nowhere
BarmierKev (IP Logged)
24 July, 2018 08:34
When reporting I try hard to give a perspective for the benefit of our ceefax fans. Of course the fact Eski gave the chance he was to blame , but I guess nine times out of ten he would have got away with that. Where as Morgan and Holden will be less than pleased with their choice of shots that easily gave their wickets away. As politely as possible I was trying to convey this.

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adelaide
There is something you can do to avoid getting caught at short leg off a middled shot. Keep it on the ground! Yes, it was a fine catch and the ball wasn't far off the ground but I don't recall the Cowderys and Graveneys of this world getting caught off middled shots.

Adelaide

 
Re: We are on the Rhodes to Nowhere
Primrose Hillbilly (IP Logged)
24 July, 2018 09:29
That is because, Adelaide, in the days of Cowdrey, Graveney etc, the short leg fielded a lot further away, apart from some loony from Yorkshire.

Ricochet's and deflections were a rarity that Close tried to make more of a feature, courtesy of his carapace.

But bat / pad catches still happened even in the 50's, and trying to keep a ball down is one thing, finding that even after that, you can't control the way it leaves the bat, or hits a pad is another.

Even those to whom you refer were caught at short leg off a spinner.

It also was an extremely good piece of close in snaffling. I might just about have been able to pull it off in my prime.


Good news - Ollie took wickets in Warwicks' first dig, Patel is doing the same now.

They have to bat last on a drying pitch that's already had a lot of sun on it.



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Re: We are on the Rhodes to Nowhere
adelaide (IP Logged)
25 July, 2018 11:26
Hain wasn't particularly close. If he had been closer he would probably not have been able to take what as still a very good catch.

I'm not convinced about short leg not fielding as close in those days. It may be I'm thinking of the late rather than early sixties but when Underwood bowled out the Aussies in the last hour some of the many close in fielders were almost on the wicket!

But my real point is the care that those players took to keep their attacking shots on the floor. These days, even in Test cricket, players hit the ball in the air through the covers wide of a fieldsman and the commentators say "great shot". Well, no, not really, as you are giving the fielders too much of a chance. That is probably down to one day cricket, and particularly T20, and it does have the upside that the game moves a bit quicker, but it does seem to me a real change and one which batsmen who don't actually need to score quickly (like Middlesex on Monday) could learn from.

I had a few more looks at the Gubbins dismissal on the highlights bu the way and the ball did straighten. I couldn't tell which pad it hit but I found myself thinking that the umpire probably got it right. Umpires traditionally gave the benefit of the doubt to players a long way forward (and perhaps Nick should still have got that) but experience with DRS has changed that.


Adelaide


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