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Mexican ground dropped from 100 rubbish?
BeefyRoberts (IP Logged)
20 February, 2019 15:33
There are lots of postings,a Times article by Lizzy Ammon about the Mexicans having their ground withdrawn from the 100 rubbish next year.
It appears they voted against the tournament recently (or,something like that),And graves threw his toys out of the pram big time.
It is said that because the Mexicans upset him,they will have the 100 rubbish taken away from them.
They stood up to graves as well,and,about time a county did so.
I can't do a link from my phone,but,I'm sure one of our family here can post a link.if the times article.
Also,The cricketer has an on line article as well,if that link can be put up,would make interesting reading.

 
Re: Mexican ground dropped from 100 rubbish?
Primrose Hillbilly (IP Logged)
20 February, 2019 16:05
In case this helps get things started, here is a link to Michael Vaughan's Tweet that anyone opposing the Hundred should be kicked out of the tournament.

Some good trenchant views follow in reply!

[twitter.com]

 
Re: Mexican ground dropped from 100 rubbish?
Primrose Hillbilly (IP Logged)
20 February, 2019 16:11
However, not so helpful was the Cricket Paper's County News page:

[www.thecricketpaper.com]

 
Re: Mexican ground dropped from 100 rubbish?
adelaide (IP Logged)
20 February, 2019 16:50
I thought that Surrey had voted for a new tournament (which Middlesex opposed IIRC) but have voted against the change of format to 100 balls (how did we vote on that?). What is more, their members were upset that the club did not consult them before the initial vote in favour.

So Surrey are not quite as squeaky clean on this as some mioght think. The actual format is the least important part of it (though symbolic of the idiocy that pervades the whole enterprise) as it could easily be changed back after a couple of years. The potential impact of an eight team competition on the game would be there even if the T20 format was used and it will be much harder to undo.


Adelaide



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Re: Mexican ground dropped from 100 rubbish?
adelaide (IP Logged)
20 February, 2019 17:03
Nicked off the Surrey board:-

"The ECB is threatening to abandon the Kia Oval as a host venue for The Hundred in an act of retribution after Surrey voted against the format chosen for English cricket’s new competition that starts next year.

Colin Graves, the ECB chairman, has told several counties that the Oval could be dropped when the eight teams are announced next month. Bristol and Chelmsford are potential alternative venues.

The eight venues for what was initially a city-based T20 tournament were named a year ago — the Oval, Lord’s, Headingley, Old Trafford, Edgbaston, Ageas Bowl, Trent Bridge and Sophia Gardens — before the ECB revealed its 100-ball format two months later. None of the contracts with the venues have been signed.

Graves is understood to be seeking approval from the ECB board to remove the Oval. It would be a dramatic change of direction a year before the launch of the controversial tournament, as well as a major gamble to sideline the biggest club in the country.

Surrey had voted in favour of the ECB creating a new competition but are understood to have voted against changing the format to 100 balls last month.

The ECB wrote to all 18 counties asking them to approve the change and obtained the two-thirds majority required. Surrey’s vote against is understood to have infuriated Graves. Surrey have yet to be told of the ECB’s plans.

Surrey have been vocal critics of The Hundred, arguing that neither the club nor their members believe a fourth format is needed, particularly when they have a track record of selling out the Oval for T20 matches.

Almost a sixth of tickets for domestic T20 matches last summer were sold at the Oval, which has the second-highest capacity in the country at 25,000 and plans to expand to 40,000 by 2023. The capacity at Lord’s is 30,000 but it stages fewer T20 matches.

The decision would affect Kent, who were set to jointly manage the Oval-based franchise with Surrey. All 18 counties plus MCC will have direct roles on the management boards of the eight new teams.

The ECB’s plans are also likely to alarm potential sponsors. Last night the governing body declined to comment."

 
Re: Mexican ground dropped from 100 rubbish?
Jonathan Winsky (IP Logged)
20 February, 2019 19:07
There is lots of coverage of Middlesex in the March edition of The Cricketer, as it is our turn in the ‘County Set’ feature. Richard Goatley and Angus Fraser’s views on The 100 can be read on The Cricketer’s website.

It seems that although the club did not vote for the creation of a new tournament, we intend to approve the structure of the tournament when the next vote takes place.

The article also says that MCC, Middlesex and Essex are likely to administer the Lord’s-based side at The 100 by selecting the coaches and players and that it is likely that it will be a similar story with the other teams, with perhaps Hampshire and Sussex administering the Rose Bowl-based side and Yorkshire and Durham doing so for the Headingley-based side. Therefore, it would complicate things if Chelmsford was to replace The Oval as a venue. Maybe Surrey would then have to join forces with Middlesex and MCC.

 
Re: Mexican ground dropped from 100 rubbish?
Primrose Hillbilly (IP Logged)
21 February, 2019 07:25

 
Re: Mexican ground dropped from 100 rubbish?
Jonathan Winsky (IP Logged)
21 February, 2019 19:04
The playing conditions for The 100 have been approved by the first-class counties, with 17 counties voting in support and 1 county voting against. I would like to say that Middlesex voted against, but we clearly voted in support of it considering only 1 county voted against, with that county almost certainly being Surrey. ECB certainly don’t seem pleased about Surrey’s objection, and they see it as a big blow, which is understandable considering few grounds sell tickets as well as The Oval, and the ground’s capacity will soon overtake Lord’s if the expansion to a 40,000 capacity goes ahead.

The playing conditions for The 100 will include:

• 100 balls per innings
• A change of ends after ten balls
• Bowlers deliver either five or ten consecutive balls
• Each bowler can deliver a maximum of 20 balls per game
• Each bowling side gets a strategic timeout of up to two and a half minutes
• A 25-ball powerplay start for each team
• Two fielders are allowed outside of the initial 30-yard circle during the powerplay

 
Re: Mexican ground dropped from 100 rubbish?
Jonathan Winsky (IP Logged)
22 February, 2019 23:10
At an ECB meeting today, Colin Graves voiced his intention to remove The Oval as a proposed host venue for The 100, but the Daily Mail report that he suffered the embarrassment of being overruled by members of the board.

One man who is in tune with what the British public like is Tom Harrison, as he says that The 100 has already been a success and that people will flock to see the tournament. He clearly knows that British people like a bit of comedy on a Friday night, and he has delivered with his comments.

 
Re: Mexican ground dropped from 100 rubbish?
adelaide (IP Logged)
22 February, 2019 23:28
Quote:
Jonathan Winsky
At an ECB meeting today, Colin Graves voiced his intention to remove The Oval as a proposed host venue for The 100, but the Daily Mail report that he suffered the embarrassment of being overruled by members of the board.
One man who is in tune with what the British public like is Tom Harrison, as he says that The 100 has already been a success and that people will flock to see the tournament. He clearly knows that British people like a bit of comedy on a Friday night, and he has delivered with his comments.

On the same basis Mr Harrison has pronounced that Brexit is already a success and congratulated Leeds on winning the Premiership next year.


Adelaide

 
Re: Mexican ground dropped from 100 rubbish?
Primrose Hillbilly (IP Logged)
26 February, 2019 13:30
All Tom Harrison cares about is the marketing of this to TV. As long as he's got ink on paper with major broadcasters signed up to the thing, he's secured the revenue he's meant to secure, and it's up to the broadcasters to get their advertisers etc to buy space.

His job is done.

As regards crowds, and people attending, ...... the cameras need only focus on any stands with anybody in them, as Packer's Channel Nine cameras did in the early days of World Series Cricket. Crowd noise can be simulated and generated artificially, so Harrison's not really bothered about actual people attending.

Ok, he's got to talk it up, because he's paid to do so,but right now, he's sitting pretty.

Whether or not the thing gets to be viewed as a success, only time will tell.

Worth noting, however, (1) that there were two real teams : Australia and West Indies, playing in WSC, as well as the Rest Of The World XI's with Grieg, Knott, Mike Proctor, Barry Richards, Imran Khan etc., (2) Packer won despite the opposition of the establishment. This time, it's the establishment pushing this thing! (3) There is almost an oversupply of limited overs cricket in the world right now.


I think it's only really got novelty value going for it. The Mumsnet generation may come along for a few games, but not for a whole slew of them. Too much else to do, dahhhling.


Ref : Packer, World Series Cricket that was a real ground breaker with their night time matches and attempts at razzamatazz, but after that, ..... it's all been done before.

 
Re: Mexican ground dropped from 100 rubbish?
Jonathan Winsky (IP Logged)
27 February, 2019 23:46
An article in the Daily Mail says that players selected for The 100 will have to donate 12.5% of what they earn at the tournament to their county. A positive of this is that counties would be compensated when their players miss 50-over matches to play at The 100 and possibly miss other matches too in the event of them getting injured at The 100, although a negative is that it could be controversial if teams at The 100 end up being closely linked to local counties, as there is a fear that these links will cause county management to have a conflict of interest. The conflict of interest might become greater if counties are due to receive compensation for having players selected for The 100.

 
Re: Mexican ground dropped from 100 rubbish?
BeefyRoberts (IP Logged)
28 February, 2019 07:49
12.5% to the counties...Well done ecb in the late thought on this idea.
BUT.....what about us,the members,who are being kicked out of our home grounds (if the ground is being abused to host games)?
This rubbish just hasn't been properly sorted out by these fools at ecb,and the plans are just being released day by day once the idiots running it have had a wine or few.
Let's see next season,when we,the members who love the fixtures as they are now,can get to outgrounds,watch OUR COUNTY,and stick two fingers up at ecb and their crazy ideas.



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Re: Mexican ground dropped from 100 rubbish?
Primrose Hillbilly (IP Logged)
04 March, 2019 16:14
This is very good.

First few paragraphs here from the article in The Cricketer, then the link:

"There is a lot of strangeness about The Hundred.

"From the haphazard announcement of its creation and the scattergun communications since to the very public trial-and-error process by which the rules seem to have been drawn up, the PR strategy behind the ECB’s soon-to-be-flagship concept could quite easily have been the product of a boozy lunch between Tom Harrison and Alan Partridge.

“Idea for a new competition,” as Steve Coogan’s hapless character would mumble into his dictaphone. “Women and children will love it. Back of the nets.”

You can imagine the scribbles on the back of a Travel Tavern paper napkin.

Insist research proves there is a gap for a fourth format in a world where three already feels gluttonous yet fail to offer the data for general scrutiny over an 11-month period?
Tick."
............

"THE PERSISTENT REFUSAL TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE THOUGHTS AND FEARS OF THE CRICKET GOING PUBLIC OF ENGLAND AND WALES" .......sound familiar????


[www.thecricketer.com]


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