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Tour de Big Perce Quiz Part One Answers

More miniscule than that!
By Big Perce feat. Ged
November 17 2009
What a tremendous collection of entries we had for part one of the Big Perce quiz. Eight genuine contestants and not a 10% in sight. It was really tough at the top with some very high scores. Everyone who entered did really well.


What a well fought contest round one turned out to be,  Even Big Perce himself would only have come 3rd equal, with 33-and-a-half-points, if we work on the basis that the set of answers he submitted to me (Ged) was his entry (to be fair, he sent me a couple of corrections subsequently).  Strangely, we also received an entry from a former regular, who no longer has posting privileges, who also scored 33-and-a-half points.  Spooky or what?

Suffice it to say that the judge’s decision on the scoring method and results is final; any debate people might want to have about some of the answers should be done on this topic, but without the expectation of the results being changed.

So, without further ado, here are the scores on the doors, in reverse order:


• 8th place - Barmy Kev – 19 (a very creditable 50%)

• 7th place - Diamond – 24

• 5th = place – Comebackgatt – 28

• 5th= place – Adelaide - 28

• 4th place - Mr Trellis – 30

• 3rd place – Jonathan Winsky – 33-and-a-half

• 2nd place – Jeff Coleman – 36

• 1st place – Teletext Army – 36-and-a-half

Many congratulations to Teletext Army who really only got one question wrong.  You have the yellow jersey of the Tour de Wath Main – for now!!

In order to maintain interest in the remaining three parts of the quiz (and in recognition of the subjective nature of some of the marking), master points towards the overall contest will be awarded as follows:

• 1st place – 4 master points

• 2nd place – 2 master points

• 3rd place – 1 master point

On that basis, you have a chance of winning the overall contest in future rounds at this stage even if you didn’t make the top three (or indeed didn’t even enter the first round).  In any case, each round has its own glory and miniscule prize, so who wouldn’t want to join in?

Many congratulations to all entrants who did so very well.  And once again many thanks to Big Perce for this excellent quiz.  All that remains is to publish the answers below and wait for all hell to break loose as people debate the various merits of the answers!

1.Nicknames. Who are/were:-

a. The Croucher  GILBERT JESSOP

b. Nugget KEITH MILLER

c. Plank MIKE BREARLEY [JUDGES NOTE: I HAVE ALSO AWARDED A POINT FOR GRAHAM NAPIER, ALTHOUGH MIDDLESEX SUPPORTERS SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES THINKING OF THE ESSEX SLOGGER AHEAD OF OUR FORMER GREAT LEADER]

d. Binga BRETT LEE

e. Mad Jack DON WILSON [JUDGES NOTE: I HAVE ALSO ACCEPTED JACK FLAVELL – INDEED MORE PEOPLE THOUGHT OF FLAVELL THAN THOUGHT OF WILSON]

f. Ramble MARK ILLOT

g. Wal PAUL ALLOTT

h. What was Lord Harris' nickname? THE AUSTERE LORD HARRIS DIDN'T HAVE A NICKNAME [JUDGES NOTE: POINT AWARDED FOR EITHER “HE DIDN’T HAVE A NICKNAME” OR “LORD HARRIS”.  NO PRIZES FOR GUESSING WHO SAID “ROLF”, WHICH DIDN’T DESERVE A POINT BUT DID MAKE ME LAUGH]

i. How did Shaggy acquire his nickname? HIS RESEMBLANCE, AS A YOUNGSTER TO THE CARTOON CHARACTER “SHAGGY” FROM SCOOBY-DOO [JUDGES NOTE: HALF A POINT ONLY WAS AWARDED TO THOSE WHO ALLUDED TO ONLY ONE CHARACTERISTIC, SUCH AS MODE OF DRESS OR BEARD.  A BONUS POINT WAS AWARDED TO THE PERSON WHO CORRECTLY POINTED OUT THAT THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE THEORY THAT OUR LEADER ACQUIRED HIS YOUTHFUL NICKNAME THROUGH A HOBBY OTHER THAN CRICKET.]

j. ......and, of course, The Boil. TREVOR BAILEY


2. Schools

a. With which schools are the following associated?

 i.     Andrew Strauss RADLEY

 ii.    Nick Compton HARROW

 iii.   Ed Smith TONBRIDGE

 iv.   Ben Hutton RADLEY

 v.    Ben Hutton's dad REPTON ( RICHARD HUTTON )

 vi.   Mike Brearley CITY OF LONDON SCHOOL

 vii.  Mike Gatting JOHN KELLY BOYS HIGH SCHOOL

 viii. Fred Titmus  THE WILLIAM ELLIS SCHOOL

 ix.   Denis Compton BELL LANE SCHOOL

 x.    Vyell Walker HARROW

b. For which English Schools Cricket Association county did Toby Radford play? BERKSHIRE

c. In which year did the Eton v Harrow match become an annual fixture? 1822

d. What is Victor Fuller-Eberle's claim to 'infamy'? HE DROPED AN EASY CATCH OFFERED BY AEJ COLLINS ( SEE NEXT QUESTION) [JUDGES NOTE: SHOULD HAVE DOPPED BARMY KEV A POINT FOR THE OBVIOUS “THEY’VE ALL GOT IT IN FOR ME” JOKE, BUT DIDN’T]

e. He played where there was a 'Close' and his name is recorded on the Menin Gate, his remains never having been recovered following his death at Ypres on the 11th November, 1914. Perhaps the most famous schoolboy cricketer, who is he? AEJ COLLINS, WHO SCORED 628, THE HIGHEST RECORDED SCORE IN CRICKET, PLAYING FOR CLARKE'S HOUSE JUNIOR IN A JUNIOR HOUSE MATCH AT CLIFTON COLLEGE


3.  Grounds.

a. In which city was the first international cricket match played? NEW YORK

b. Which English county was the first to host a test match? Surrey (THE OVAL)

c. At which ground would you find the Vance Stand end? THE BASIN RESERVE, WELLINGTON

d. This Middlesex ground, with a military connection, has never hosted a Middlesex county championship match, has been in use in the 18th, 19th, 20th and 21st centuries and in a match in September, 2009, James Foster made the highest score of the match. What is the ground's name? THE HONOURABLE ARTILERY COMPANY GROUND, FINSBURY

e. Two English grounds share this name. One is better known for another sport, while the other stages second eleven cricket matches. The name is more famous for a battle. What is the name? STAMFORD BRIDGE

f. The first match played on this ground was in 1787 and the first First Class match on the ground was in 1801. The lowest recorded score on the ground was six. What, apart from the obvious, was unusual about the team that scored the six runs? ALL THEIR NAMES BEGAN WITH THE LETTER 'B' [JUDGES NOTE: NO KEV, SHAGGY DID NOT CAPTAIN THE TEAM THAT WAS ALL OUT FOR 6.  NOR DID HE SAY THAT THEY WERE SIMPLY TRYING TO PLAY POSITIVE CRICKET]. 

g. In Q2f above, what is the full title of the ground? LORD'S OLD GROUND, MARYLEBONE


4. Lord's

a. Which team traditionally plays matches at Lord's in September and October? CROSS ARROWS

b. Who was the architect who designed the Lord's pavilion?  F.THOMAS VERITY

c. Who laid the pavilion foundation stone in 1889? SIR SPENCER PONSONBY-FANE

d. What match was staged at Lord's in 1916? A BASEBALL MATCH BETWEEN A CANADIAN AND AN AMERICAN TEAM [JUDGES NOTE: NO, KEV, IT WAS NOT AN EARLY TRIAL FOR TWENTY20 CRICKET, BUT WELL DONE FOR KNOWING IT WAS A BASEBALL GAME]

e. 1935 was the 'season of the leather jackets'. Who or what were the 'leather jackets' and what became of the Lord's 'leather jackets'?  (One point for each of the two answers) THEY WERE GRUBS OF THE CRANEFLY THAT PLAGUED THE SOUTH OF ENGLAND THAT YEAR AND WERE COLLECTED IN VAST QUANTITIES BY LORD'S GROUNDSTAFF, SUPPLEMENTED BY UNEMPLOYED LABOURERS AND BURNT, UPTO 1,500 A DAY. YUK.  [JUDGES NOTE: NO KEV, IT WAS NOT MOTORHEAD IN CONCERT, FOLLOWED BY THE NOLANS]

f. what caused the fall of Father Time?
THE TRAILING WIRE OF A BARRAGE BALLOON DURING WORLD WAR II

g.Who or what did Sir Pelham Warner once describe as  the height of , " a tall man in a top hat"? THE SLOPE AT LORD’S

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Tour de Big Perce Quiz Part One Answers
Posted by: Middlesex till we die (IP Logged)
Date: 17/11/2009 07:12

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009:12:01:06:17:39 by Ged.

Re: Tour de Big Perce Quiz Part One Answers
Posted by: BarmierKev (IP Logged)
Date: 17/11/2009 08:14

I enjoyed doing this quiz but demand stewards enquiry on my score expecting some bonus points for thinking out and maybe off my box.



Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele

Re: Tour de Big Perce Quiz Part One Answers
Posted by: The Diamond ruled ok (IP Logged)
Date: 17/11/2009 09:13

My Apologies for answering Napier instead of Brears . I thought his nickname was "God" ? It was when I started watching Middlesex .

Re: Tour de Big Perce Quiz Part One Answers
Posted by: comebackgatt (IP Logged)
Date: 17/11/2009 15:51

I got some of the school questions wrong and came a cropper on the Lord's ones. Doing alright till then!! So Diamond & Kev let the battle commence to see who can avoid the wooden spoon (including me of course)

Re: Tour de Big Perce Quiz Part One Answers
Posted by: Jonathan Winsky (IP Logged)
Date: 17/11/2009 16:52

The four and a half questions I got wrong were:

1h. I said "We Want Those Ashes This Year!" as that came up when I typed 'Lord Harris aka' into Google (that was more fruitful than 'Lord Harris nickname' or 'Lord Harris known').
1i. I said "Because he used to have messy hair", although I think I got half a point for this.
2b. I said "Marylebone Cricket Club Schools" as I couldn't find a mention of him playing for a conventional ESCA county, although there is a mention of him playing for MCC Schools.
4f. I said "When the Grand Stand was demolished in 1996, Father Time had to be moved to the Clock Tower between the Mound and Tavern Stands" as I couldn't find a mention of Father Time falling.
4g. I said "George Emmett's bat" as I couldn't find a mention of Sir Pelham Warner using the term "a tall man in a top hat", although I made a total guess that he was describing a big bat, and indeed Cricinfo describe him as 'a little man with a big bat'.

I am proud that I got 100% for the 'Grounds' section.

I used the Internet for researching all the questions.

Anyway, at least I have earned myself 1 master point.

By the way, I was guilty of answering "Graham Napier" for 1c and "Jack Flavell" for 1e.



http://www.hof.org.uk/showthread.php?t=2403&p=19514&viewfull=1#post19514

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(image on left not representative of how relative my support of Watford is to my support of Middlesex)

Re: Tour de Big Perce Quiz Part One Answers
Posted by: adelaide (IP Logged)
Date: 17/11/2009 23:39

Without half an hour or so the internet I would have struggled to get near Kev's usual 10 per cent.

It is a problem though, isn't it, that the sources used by the quiz setter are often immediately available to each contestant. If we all promised to abstain from internet use I suspect the marks would be more like our end of Year 2 (*) maths exam, when a particularly bumptious head of department humiliated pupils and teachers alike by setting a test so gruesome that many got zero and the top mark was 38 per cent. Way to go, if you ever wanted to turn people off a subject. Rant over.


Adelaide going off at a tangent, a sine, a cosine...

(*) That's Year 8 to you, Jonathan.

Re: Tour de Big Perce Quiz Part One Answers
Posted by: Ged (IP Logged)
Date: 18/11/2009 05:41

One of the things I like about Big Perce's quiz (both the part just published and the sections still to come) is that there is a good mixture of qurestions, some of which can be researched and answered on the internet easily, some of which require some fairly profound cricket knowledge to be able to research them on the internet and some of which cannot really be answered through internet research alone.

I think this is the way now with on-line quizzes and will be the way in the future.

The only on-line alternative is to play quizzes in real time on-line, preventing people from researching and/or rewarding only very rapid online research.

I'm happy with on-line quizzes that reward an element of internet research, as long as those quizzes do not comprise primarily of trivial matters to research.

Re: Tour de Big Perce Quiz Part One Answers
Posted by: The Diamond ruled ok (IP Logged)
Date: 18/11/2009 07:01

Very true Ged . I had to dig out a rather dusty signed copy of Gatt's autobiography to find out where he went to school .
Looks like those he associates with now have had mention of John Kelly Boys High School expunged from the net . Is that because it ain't as posh as Harrow , Radley or Tonbridge ?
Probably a good job the Bell Lane Elementary educated Compton was not employed by them then .

An excellent quiz BP,WM , really looking forward to the rest of it (and an improvement in my ranking ) . Good job the bunny is in hibernation though !!

Re: Tour de Big Perce Quiz Part One Answers
Posted by: adelaide (IP Logged)
Date: 18/11/2009 09:13

I got Gatt's school from the 1982 Playfair, which for some reason I havent chucked.

The players listed for Middlesex are:-

Barlow, Brearley, Butcher, Colin Cook, Cowans, Daniel, Downton, Edmonds, Emburey, Gatting, Hughes, Kevin James, Rajesh Maru, Merry, Monteith, Radley, Selvey, Slack, Andrew Geoffrey Smith, Chilton Taylor, Thomson and Tomlins. Those dropping out from the previous edition are M F Cohen and van der Bijl.

Not a bad squad there, though only 4th in 1981! I don't recall Smith and Cohen, while thee are a few there I never saw play.


Adelaide

Re: Tour de Big Perce Quiz Part One Answers
Posted by: beeamazed (IP Logged)
Date: 18/11/2009 15:08

Andy Smith ,a tall blond(male) opening bat as I recall,played for North Mymms in the Herts League amongst other clubs .



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Re: Tour de Big Perce Quiz Part One Answers
Posted by: Big Perce, Wath Main (IP Logged)
Date: 18/11/2009 17:00

Just a few comments.
First, the standard of answers was very high and indicates that there is a wealth of knowledge amongst MTWD readers, as well as a willingness to research. Its amazing how many other bits of info come to light when you are searching for info on the internet.
Second, the high standard of answers suggests that a few more MTWD readers should go in for the Quiz thread, which is usually occupied by just a few of us.
Third, in response to Jonathan, I watched Radford playing for Berks Schools in the ESCA at Reading School. He made a ton, although he was caught behind before reaching his hundred, but was given not out and didn't walk. He also batted so slowly that he lost all chance of his side winning the match, which was certainly a strong possibility at one time. The leading schoolboy batsmen of that year were Radford, Crawley of Lancs and a guy who played for Middlesex Schools, whose name I forget; I think he was at Radley. Only Crawley really made the grade, though.
Fourth, thanks to Ged for doing the marking.
Fifth, well done to the nine entrants named above ( even BK and his box!).

Re: Tour de Big Perce Quiz Part One Answers
Posted by: beeamazed (IP Logged)
Date: 18/11/2009 18:06

I'm not a quiz person BP,but I will have a bash at the next offering.Avoiding the wooden spoon will be considered a victory pour moi....(Sm85)

Re: Tour de Big Perce Quiz Part One Answers
Posted by: Big Perce, Wath Main (IP Logged)
Date: 18/11/2009 23:29

Glad to hear this, BH and the best of luck to you.

Re: Tour de Big Perce Quiz Part One Answers
Posted by: BarmierKev (IP Logged)
Date: 19/11/2009 00:45

BP I enjoyed the quiz and am looking forward to next installment as are many MTWD contributors. I cannot guarantee my future answers will be totally in the box, but will do my best or maybe worse. Anything above 10% I am more than happy with.

Anyway, BP many thanks for your efforts, which has kept us Middlesex fans positively occupied during these long winter months ahead.

You are closing in on being a Yorkie MTUD



Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009:11:19:09:29:37 by BarmierKev.

Re: Tour de Big Perce Quiz Part One Answers
Posted by: Big Perce, Wath Main (IP Logged)
Date: 19/11/2009 11:40

Many thanks, BK, and a sterling effort on your part. Onwards and upwards.

Re: Tour de Big Perce Quiz Part One Answers
Posted by: Wickham (IP Logged)
Date: 24/11/2009 18:12

I only knew a few of the answers (and didn't google any of the remainder). But I nevertheless enjoyed the quiz (particularly once the answers were posted), because many of the questions and answers were both interesting and new to me.

Re: Tour de Big Perce Quiz Part One Answers
Posted by: Big Perce, Wath Main (IP Logged)
Date: 25/11/2009 14:17

Many thanks for your kind remarks, Wickham.
It would be interesting to put people on their trust and ask for two sets of answers, one set provided from knowledge, the other set researched on the internet, and see what the average difference was. Quite a bit, I'd suggest, but researching can be interesting because you tend to stumble accross all sorts of little side issues that grab your attention ( if you have time, as I do).

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