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Daily Dump from Cricinfo
By Chandra August 2 2007
The fact that Cricinfo is biased is not a controversial issue and is a forgone conclusion - I being one of several people who have made this observation in the past, backing it with up mountains of evidence. Further, any feedback to the authors of the site (through postings on their feedback page) is usually greeted with hostility and dismissal.

The purpose of this article is not to reiterate old issues, but to point out new instances of bias.

Of course, one response to such bias would be to ignore it but Cricinfo with its massive presence on the internet is too big to ignore. When a site is so big with such broad viewership, ignoring it becomes tantamount to sanctioning it and the ideas it propagates.

So for my observation for today is the following.

As all of you are aware, I am sure, a historic series is being played in England by India. Equally significant is the fact that this may well be the last tour for four of India's great batsmen of the last decade: Sachin Tendulkar, Rahul Dravid, Saurav Ganguly and VVS Laxman. This is also India's first Test series against a non-minnow country after the WC07 debacle, and the "retirement" of the infamous Greg Chappell as India's coach.

In light of this, Cricinfo decides to publish a whole article about India's 1936 tour which was total disaster. You can read the details here.

The contents of the article are not of dispute here (I wasn't there and have no other information to judge the article's veracity), but the article itself. Why this article now? Why do it just after India had a comprehensive win over England?

How about writing an article on the 1971/72 series where Wadekar and his men trounced the mighty England on their own soil with BS Chandrashekar taking 6 wickets for 38 runs in the second innings of the third test to seal the test and series for India? Or how about the 2002 series where Ganguly and his boys came back after a defeat in the first test to even the series (with Sachin, Dravid and Ganguly all scoring centuries)? The 1971/72 series has not been mentioned on Cricinfo for a long time and the 2002 series is only mentioned in passing. Yet, the 2002 series would be the most relevant to discuss and analyze, since many of the players who participated in that series (on both sides) are still playing.

An article about a debacle (Indian or otherwise) is not necessarily out of place but its mention to the exclusion of all the others that could have been written indicates bias.

The motivation for doing so is not unfathomable. It is to create a mindset where it does not really matter how well India does, it will not be given the same prominence as its failures. Don't get me wrong. The bias is not so overt that the veneer of impartiality will be obvious and be called just that - a veneer. It is more insidious since the veneer is protected and polished. Let me explain.

For example, there is some coverage given to Zaheer Khan and his superior bowling performance however more attention is paid to Sreesanth and his failings to control his emotions. Another example, the jelly bean incident is labeled a childish prank rather than a violation of Cricket rules which should have resulted in the banning of the perpetrators. If the ball had landed on those jelly beans and deviated from their normal course, at best it would have got the batsman out and at worst caused bodily harm yo a tailender ill-equipped to handle it.

The Sreesanth bouncer and no-ball are given extraordinary prominence by comparison.

That's all for today. Next, my take on Sambit Bal and his editorial skulduggery and more episodes of the Daily Dump from Cricinfo.

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Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: Anil (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:02:11:12:41

The editorial slant of Cricinfo is indeed shameless and hateful.

Instead of writing about the ease with which India has defeated England, they do everything in their power to talk about other things which have nothing to do with what happened in this match.

You also bring up an excellent point: the danger posed to tailender Zaheer Khan with the jellybeans repeatedly thrown on the pitch.

It's one thing to try and get a batsman out unfairly by throwing foreign objects on the pitch, and quite another to intentionally hurt him by throwing them where the bowler can aim to use them to injure the batsmen.

What have the umpires and referee done about that? Shame on Madugalle, Taufel and Howell.

This is more than a silly prank -- it is a clear violation of the laws similar to illegally altering the condition of the ball.

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: Gabbar (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:02:15:13:10

crapinfo is one of the lousiest entities - and our own idiots working for them have no shame -

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Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:02:15:38:50

Yet somehow they have positioned themselves as almost a MONOPOLY for internet cricket coverage.

It is about time someone like Vijay Mallya, (he owns a bunch of newspapers in CA) or some such person to enter the fray and take on cricinfo...

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Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: Anil (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:02:15:44:18

It's just a bloody website, and not a very fancy one at that.

Why is it worth so much? Because we Indians visit the facking place.

Creating a website is trivial, putting records on it takes a few full-time people, and with a few good writers it could easily beat out Cr@pinfo.

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:02:15:55:25

Same could be said about setting up an Indian Institute of Humanities... (OK a bit more investment)...but Indians just don't have the internal confidence that what they say about cricket or the humanities can be the FINAL word or atleast an AUTHORATIVE spin on it...

They always seek approval... that is the TEXT book definition of SKC...

So the question is not of money, but of overcoming SKC...

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Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: Anil (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:02:15:58:37

Two things Birbal: one they lack the leadership skills to think of doing anything like that, and two anybody who does that can expect to come under attack by BCCI, ex-cricketers, media and the rest of the motley crew. That's just the way it is over there.

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:02:16:01:27

Yeah the so called CRAB mentality...

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Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: GoCool (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:04:19:25:10

Very well summed up Chandra

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:04:19:26:51

Another blog along the same line..

Is Kesavan's calling India's win an UNNATURAL WIN...

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Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:04:19:29:06

I suppose Mukul has been HIDING in a CAVE the last decade...

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Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: anu_D (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:06:13:26:05

this letter finds it's due place here....

Feedback to bas.tards at crap.info
Posted by: anu_D (IP Logged)
Date: 01 August, 2007 14:47


To Dileep-bhai Premchandran
cc: Sambit Bal
cc: Some Williamson

[Dileep says]"Indian cricket teams are hopeless away from home"


Hmm...you are back with your half a.ssed dishonest "spins"in the name of analysis????

Weren't you and your Chief Editor Sambit the ones...who had written obituaries of Ganguly????...Walking into sun-set...several times and several years back.
That he is not only around but top scorer and top averging founding architect of batting in this series ( as he was in SA)....goes completely unmentioned..makes you guys dishonest.

That you choose to FORGET that this nearly same Indian team beat Eng-inEng, Aus-in-Aus, Pak-in-Pak, SL-in SL...between 2002 to 2005....cannot be called hopeless away from home...just because some half baked ignorant British papers have called it so.

What has changed with this team....the poisonous snake called Chappell has been kicked out.
That you are silent about this biggest CHANGE..leading to changed fortunes makes you dishonest.

WHY?...because crap.info are repaying allegiance, being benefeciary of that snakes leaked gossips.

Ques?....do you at crap.info know whihc team in this millenium has won most overseas tests after Aus??????
Ans:..Check your own data base...and answer called India will hit you in the face.


a_D

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: anu_D (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:06:13:29:37

Dear Editors,
Request make this a sticky...so that it remains on top..as an ongoing thread.

I think there is always room for about 3 stickies on top of the discussion page.

maybe you guys can replace the dream team with this one.

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:06:17:28:07

Yeah that was the Idea...to make it a sticky...

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Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: kappax (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:07:05:36:42

Birbal,
One of the dangers of this tirade we are indulging in is that we pull in unuintended people to the mix and make them part of the cr@pinfo group...

Mukul Kesavan is a guest author at cricinfo and has earlier put in wonderful articles exposing the bias of the anglo teams...

I haven't read his current article but his earlier track record was excellent...

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: Chorazin Reto (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:07:05:50:34

I thought a lot of the writers were Indian, am i wrong about this?

[aus.cricinfo.com]

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: Tapioca (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:07:06:01:10

Chorazin Reto Wrote:
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> I thought a lot of the writers were Indian, am i
> wrong about this?


Yeow ! Who is the guy in that picture ?

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: chandra (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:07:06:44:43

By popular demand, here is the blog I created to track the daily dump:

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: Chorazin Reto (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:07:09:09:00

The bowler is Shaun Tait, the batsmen is Northants batsman Tim Roberts.

[aus.cricinfo.com]

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: kappax (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:07:09:11:37

Good on Ya..

That first post blog can also be added as section for "Statement of Purpose" and always gets displayed.. just like your About Me profile

If you wish to blog on general Cricket issues, use a sperate blog and link it up here.. You cna alos have ICF links here...

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: Max (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:07:10:07:59

chandra, I applaud your initiative to expose Cricinfo's blatant anti India/pro English-Aussie bias. Wish you all the best.

However, looking at it from another angle...are we giving the morons at Cricinfo unwanted publicity by even discussing their bs? Are they better left ignored? I guess it's a debatable point.

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India's Test record against Australia over last 12 years:

Played 26, Won 10, Lost 10, Drawn 6

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: kappax (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:07:10:21:42

as Chandra mentioned elsewhere...

They are too big to ignore...

so its best to expose...

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:07:15:00:27

Another example of BIAS at cricinfo..

Anand Vasu says:

"However, neither Sreesanth's bowling, nor his behaviour on the field, elicited a positive impression, forcing the selectors to make the lone change."

however Dilip Vengsarkar says:

He also said Sreesanth's axing, for the one-day series in England, had nothing to do with his attitude and wished it would act as a spur-on for The Oval Test.

Vasu is a LIAR but what's new there eh?

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Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: anu_D (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:07:18:06:46

as Chandra mentioned elsewhere...

They are too big to ignore...

so its best to expose



agree...

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: GoCool (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:08:04:33:38

The buffoonry of Sid Viadyanathan continues here: [content-usa.cricinfo.com]

It is quite obvious Sreesanth told him what he could kiss. Why else would all this sreesanth bashing continue on prime space on crapinfo?

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:08:05:29:34

Best way to answer this Chootiya and his ilk is for Sree to run through the Poms...but then they will say the "firm" talking to succeeded...

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Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:08:05:43:20

And here is Vaidyanathan clearly writing FOR the other side... this guy is as SHAMELESS as they come....

Indian batsmen have SMASHED Brett Lee and Co. for 700+ runs Shoaib Akhtar and Co. for 600+ but apparently they need to fear Sidebottom, Anderson and Tremlett...


"As talk of Zaheer Khan and jelly-gate slowly dies down, one mustn't forget The Oval circa 1994. Thirteen years ago Devon Malcolm was struck on the helmet while batting against South Africa. His badge came off when he missed a Fanie de Villiers bouncer and, when the South Africans laughed, he shot back: "You guys are history". Enraged, he destroyed them with a spell of 9 for 57 and helped England level the series. India's bowlers beware. Don't anger Anderson, Tremlett or Sidebottom in this Test. Don't become history; create it."

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Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: Anil (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:08:12:08:38

[i][/i]^^ honestly it's difficult to believe this joker is Indian



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Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: anu_D (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:08:12:40:56

And Vaidyanathan writes another one titled a ridiculing "Taming of Sree"

and manufactured gossip from a dressing room source ???? which one.....after Chappell is fired



The taming of Sree?

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan

August 7, 2007



All fired up: Sreesanth wasn't expecting to be dropped from the one-dayers © Getty Images



Of the entire Indian squad that practised at The Oval today just one, Sreesanth, had bad news waiting for him. Obliging a few autograph seekers in the boundary line, Sreesanth was jolted when a journalist informed him of his axing from the one-day side. Initially he thought it was a joke - "Dropped for one-dayers and picked for Twenty20?" - but his expression gradually turned morose.

It isn't a shocking omission by any means. Sreesanth hasn't been able to replicate his Test success in the one-day arena, picking up only 38 wickets in 29 games. But the implications of his losing a spot, the only change in India's one-day squad, are magnified several times when seen through the prism of a forgettable Test at Trent Bridge.

In the space of one afternoon, he bowled a ferocious beamer to Kevin Pietersen and liberal front-foot no-ball to Paul Collingwood, and shoulder-charged Michael Vaughan; for the last infringement he was docked 50% of his match fee.

It's a statement that seems to reveal the team's mindset on Sreesanth: be aggressive but don't go overboard. "I think he has a great example in Zaheer," said Rahul Dravid at the end of the second Test. "Zaheer has been as aggressive as anyone, without going over the top - just performing and getting wickets."

It is reliably learnt that Sreesanth was given a serious talking to at Leicester, during India's tour match against Sri Lanka A which he missed, and told to rein in his emotions. A member of the team felt he'd got the criticism he merited and hoped he would learn from the experience



Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: Max (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:08:18:11:42

I'm 100% certain that the Cr@pinfo self-loathers like Vasu, Vaidyanathan, etc read our ICF message board. And some of their "articles" could be in response to posts they read here.

Anyways if targeting Cr@pinfo is going to be a long-term policy at ICF, then perhaps we should change the name of this thread/article to something like "Exposing Cricinfo's bias" or "Cricinfo's anti-Indian bias". That might attract more people online when they search through google, etc. The current title seems a bit trivial for such a big issue...people may not take it too seriously at first glance.

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India's Test record against Australia over last 12 years:

Played 26, Won 10, Lost 10, Drawn 6

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: anu_D (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:09:07:11:22

^ Yes Max...I agree and re-iterate....this expose/ counter cricinfo campaign needs to be a more permanent / long drawn one...for it to gain momentum and support.

I recommend a couple of things :

1) Make it a sticky...so that it's prominently visible on top.

2) Provide a headline/ link on the ICF main page...so that it's visible to even those who don't come to the discussion board.

3) And as max say/....title it approrpiately so that it is self explanatory

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: kappax (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:09:07:36:43

No need to change title..

the Google like Web spider's nowadays search through content and not just the title or Meta Key words...

the main thing is to link it other places too... then this will get up on the searches

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: anu_D (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:09:08:15:41

I would propose a title called " Cricinfo--Home of Biassed Cricker Reporting"

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: GoCool (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:09:14:11:48

And now it's dear old Dileep Premachandran whose excellent choice of words and sense of perspective while refusing to succumb to the temptation of praising his own team without skewing it with flaws ( akin to a pyhrric victory), makes him worthy of a seat that is honorably occupied by Siddhartha Viadyanathan who has recently been looking for coffins everytime he sniffs flowers.

[content-usa.cricinfo.com]

Here is an excerpt:

Victory in Pakistan in 2004 was an epochal one, especially after 50 years of not so much as a sniff of success, but that was a Pakistan team in disarray and one prone to the same inconsistency that afflicts the Indians.

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: Anil (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:09:14:14:50

When Dileep was posting here, he seemed an intelligent fellow who was quite the loyal Indian fan.. I don't know what the Cricinfo bosses do to these guys to convert them into self-loathers.

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: GoCool (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:09:14:16:08

By the way the article refrenced above is under a heading appropriately named "Today's Specials"

The last hurdle

"Dileep Premachandran on India's poor record in closing out series"

Good day everyone.

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: anu_D (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:09:15:38:25

[quote ]When Dileep was posting here, he seemed an intelligent fellow who was quite the loyal Indian fan

==>>When was he posting here?

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: Max (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:09:17:56:13

^ about 3-4 years ago IIRC. The original pure indian aka amit didn't really like him...used to call him illeep (Sm12)

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India's Test record against Australia over last 12 years:

Played 26, Won 10, Lost 10, Drawn 6

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: Gabbar (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:09:20:13:14

I had quite a bit of beef with dileep initially - he the one who like everything australian - I remember bheembhai had beef with him

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Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: Anil (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:10:02:36:37

I never could understand how a huge country like India could be colonized by a few Englishmen.

Now I know -- it was largely because of the traitorous attitude of so-called Indians like Sambit Bal, Dileep, Siddharta, et al.

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:10:03:54:32

I agree we should call the thread something else...

I simply suggested Daily DUMP...as in taking a DUMP..i.e. taking a C.RAP or S.H.*.TTING...

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Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: Max (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:10:04:29:02

lol good one Birbal (Sm6)

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Played 26, Won 10, Lost 10, Drawn 6

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: kappax (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:10:07:39:36

I actually like the title...

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:10:16:20:26

Vaidyanathan sounds like the TOTAL IDIOT he is when he said...

"... Don't anger Anderson, Tremlett or Sidebottom in this Test. Don't become history; create it."

Haahahahahahaaaa.

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Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: chandra (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:10:16:35:11

Here is another post on yesterday's coverage by D. Premachandran and A. Miller.

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: anu_D (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:10:16:50:42

Chandra I suggest you carry your blog link in your signature

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: chandra (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:10:18:50:37

Chandra I suggest you carry your blog link in your signature.

Good idea. Thanks.

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: anu_D (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:10:19:23:11

Today's letter to cricinfo

To: Sambit Bal, Dileep P, Siddharth V, Anand V, Rahul B etc..


So when do we expect an honest write-up from one of you desis titled....

" Dramatic Reversal as India flushes clean of Chappell's Poison"

Since Chappell's SACKING....India has won 4 overseas series on a trot...and even if you discount the BD test and ODIs......the ODI against SA and tests against Eng are historically credible....directly attributed to the lack of snake Chappell and his Pappu Frazer.

That you half a dozen+ guys can be collectively BLIND to NOT notice is is not possible....

So what's stopping you.....Ohhh...I understand...your master Williamson and Jr.master Miller's have imposed a condtions of employment in your contracts....

"Thou shall not even obliquely point a finger at leaker or email and supplier of gossip Chappell".

OK..I understand...live your pathetic "dishonest" existence.

a_D

He who battles monsters must beware, lest a monster he becomes-- Friedrich Nietze

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:10:21:44:43

It is funny how when India have a BRILLIANT day at the office the chumps at cricinfo suddenly seem to forget to post their verdict...or to come up with some interview from the Indian perspective...etc...

Just a Bulletin and a brief question and answer session with Shaz... that's it...

GET OUT of your FUNK Sid and Co. inquiring minds want to know if India "angered" Sidebottom, Tremlett and Anderson...sufficiently...(Sm100)(Sm127)

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Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: Anil (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:11:12:04:31

Check out what this SOB Anand Vasu of Cr@pinfo has to say after India piles up a mountain of runs in the first innings, coming after a 1-0 lead:
Quote:
Vasu
India rarely go into the middle of the final Test of a series away - barring Bangladesh and Zimbabwe - leading 1-0 and in the driver's seat.
But that's exactly where they find themselves, and this could provide its own challenges. The fact that every Indian batsman scored double-figures, and more so that numbers seven and eight plundered 200 runs between them shows how good this pitch still is for batting. So, if India expect English wickets to fall in a heap, they might just get a bit frustrated.

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: anu_D (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:11:12:58:25

Brown slaves of white masters

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:11:18:48:42

In his report on the days play he writes:



Quote:
"A Sreesanth delivery slipping so far down leg that it would likely have missed another set of stumps rapped Collingwood on the pad and up went the finger."

Another PIECE of journalistic S.H.I.+ from "Vasmaru" Vasu..



Hawkeye showed that it would have hit the outside of leg stump... so it was marginal but OUT...so don't know what the FACK his FACKER is talking about..

As usual trying to paint a positive picture for his Western masters... I suppose..

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Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:11:18:54:56

Compare this to what he wrote about the Ganguly HOWLER...

"Paul Collingwood, filling in a few overs before the second new ball was taken, got one to come in a touch to Ganguly, on 37, who crashed the ball onto his pad off a thick inside-edge. The appeal was a good one, and Howell raised his finger even as Ganguly smiled in bemusement, concealing his disappointment as best as possible, and trudged off."

Pray tell OH Vas-maru...why was this a good appeal?

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Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: Anil (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:11:20:10:18

From Cr@pinfo's own text commentary
Quote:
the replay shows it was just clipping leg - and Collingwood clearly wasn't happy...the end of a fighting innings, but another England batsman goes after doing the hard work

So let's get this straight: the guy is going to lie to us about the facts, so he can whinge on behalf of his masters?



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Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: Anil (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:11:20:15:58

I don't get it: Anand Vasu seems to be infuriated that India is doing well, and is doing everything to undermine that performance.

What makes such people tick?

Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: chandra (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:12:05:55:13

Quote:
I don't get it: Anand Vasu seems to be infuriated that India is doing well, and is doing everything to undermine that performance.

I am no psychologist but it must be a profound sense of self-hatred. It is not uncommon amongst Indians particularly who have only seen the good side of the west and not the ugly side.

Further, I also think we don't get the proper education in India - in fact we are taught pretty much the same@#$%&that was being taught to us before Independence - just look at the humanities. Further many of the Indian writers are also of the same mindset. Can you name one book written by an Indian that is popular in the west that has a positive view of Indian culture, history, sense of values, Hindu religion, science, arts, mathematics, technology, etc. May be there are one or two - compare that to the weight of material that distorts, obfuscates, lies about, demonizes India and all the things I listed above. It's a wonder anyone comes out with any positive view at all.

There is a lot to be said here but this is not the place for sure.

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Re: Daily Dump from Cricinfo
Posted by: anu_D (IP Logged)
Date: 2007:08:12:06:49:09

Can you name one book written by an Indian that is popular in the west that has a positive view of Indian culture, history, sense of values, Hindu religion, science, arts, mathematics, technology, etc.

==>>Yes Rohinton Mistry's Such a Long journey, Family matters and tails from Firozshah Bagh.....are not loaded with self ridicule of Indian customs and traditions....instead with a degree of self esteem portray indian culture, values and idiosyncracies just as any other culture would be.

And that's why Mistry is one of my favorite writers.....but unfortunately he has wtritten for a long time now

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