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Have Pace, Need Polish
By Gaurang September 26 2008
If someone a decade ago had suggested that India would soon have about ten Test class pace bowlers but only a handful of Test class spinners, he or she would have been laughed out of the room. But the reality is that is exactly where India is today.

Even Pakistan, which once was thought to have the patent on the sub-continental fast bowler’s assembly line, now casts a covetous glance east, as its own assembly line seems to be sputtering with doping scandals and a dwindling supply of fresh young bowling talent. 

 

With Zaheer Khan, Ishant Sharma, RP Singh, Munaf Patel, S. Sreesanth, Irfan Pathan, Praveen Kumar, Manpreet Gony, VRV Singh, the return of Ashish Nehra, and up and comers like Ashok Dinda, plus others on the periphery like Ajit Agarkar, Ranadeb Bose, Laxmipathy Balaji, etc., India's fast bowling cupboard looks well stocked.    

 

What is now needed, something that John Wright identified early in his term as India Coach, is a bowling coach, preferably a fast bowling expert to guide this bunch of talented but yet rough-around-the-edges group of bowlers.  The BCCI balked at Wright’s request, only giving him a temporary bowling coach during India’s tour Down Under in 2003-04 in the form of Bruce Reid.  The rest is history.  India’s pace bowlers out bowled Australia’s down under, and then also out bowled Pakistan’s vaunted fast bowlers in Pakistan.  When later Venkatesh Prasad was given the job, again temporarily, India out bowled the English fast bowlers in their own backyard. 

 

I am not sure whether Gary Kirsten has asked BCCI for help with his fast bowlers, but it is a fair bet that he must have at least considered hiring someone like his old teammates Alan Donald, or Fannie DeVilliers, to help him get the most out of his fast bowlers.

 

India has been playing Test cricket only at home or on the sub-continent this year, and are not scheduled to travel outside the sub-continent till well into the new year, so this issue may not seem very urgent.  But it is during this time, when the spotlight is off, and the media glare is elsewhere, that a skilled fast bowling coach could do some serious work.  India need that to make progress, and go beyond winning isolated Tests overseas, and start to win series overseas.  The inevitable decline of India’s fabled middle order, makes this even more crucial, as India are likely going to have less runs to defend or attack with overseas for a while.

 

I sincerely hope the BCCI, which is not known for looking much beyond its nose, can for once, do some long-term thinking and try and add some polish to a group of pacers with lots of potential.

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Re: Have Pace, Need Polish
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:26:20:16:34

It is bit unfair to include Zaheer Khan in that group..

He is one Indian pacer who WENT ON HIS OWN and ACQUIRED POLISH by playing full season in County cricket...besides working his tail off in Indian Domestic cricket...

But the others in the group could use a figure like Donald, De Villiers, or Prasad, or even Wasim Akram or Sir Richard Hadlee (If they will devote full time to it) as fast bowling coach...

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Re: Have Pace, Need Polish
Posted by: ananthd (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:26:20:21:03

But spin's a worry though....

With the decline of Kumble & Bhajji, we DON'T have a Test class spinner and no one seems to be in the horizon...

The surfeit won't help in the subcontinent for the most part unless the pitches are radically overhauled made very green...

The fact of the matter is despite all this pace bowling revolution; India hasn't won a more than one Test in a series since against SL at home in late 2005...

Yes the pacers will win a match or two abroad, but India's traditional strength, spin is what will win series convincingly at home...

Re: Have Pace, Need Polish
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:26:20:25:20

ananthd it is a combination of our spinners losing their zip, the pitches at home getting better (i.e. less spinny) and visiting batsmen being more comfortable in India (no longer that alien a place)... that has resulted in India not winning too many matches at home...

The DEFENSIVE captaincy of Dravid and Kumble recently has not helped...

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Re: Have Pace, Need Polish
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:27:04:45:09

RP Singh was brilliant in England but recently he has been very, very ordinary...what's going on?

Re: Have Pace, Need Polish
Posted by: anu_D (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:27:09:53:39

With Zaheer Khan, Ishant Sharma, RP Singh, Munaf Patel, S. Sreesanth, Irfan Pathan, Praveen Kumar, Manpreet Gony, VRV Singh, the return of Ashish Nehra, and up and comers like Ashok Dinda, plus others on the periphery like Ajit Agarkar, Ranadeb Bose, Laxmipathy Balaji, etc., India's fast bowling cupboard looks well stocked

==>>maan where have you left the Ranji lead wk takers Joginderrr and Harvinderrrr.

watch out...if you ever happen to enter Melbourne you will be arrested winking smiley

PA* Pankaj Singh and VRV and that 19 year old pacer from Chennai deserves to be in that list

Re: Have Pace, Need Polish
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:27:13:45:37

VRV IS on that list...

Pankaj Singh will play Aussies soon for Rajasthan let's see...

Re: Have Pace, Need Polish
Posted by: anu_D (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:27:20:06:25

Pankaj didn;t get any wkts today....but is in the BP side also.

Pankaj is good.

Why did you leave out Joginderrrrr and Harvinderrrr....you don;t trust Ranji records ????

Re: Have Pace, Need Polish
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:27:21:37:54

Anu_D I am talking about TEST pace bowlers...

Joginder is OK for T20 and ODIs...but not Tests...

Re: Have Pace, Need Polish
Posted by: Max (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:29:07:20:55

India's pace bench strength has been pretty solid this decade. And that's one of the main reasons we have won many Tests overseas over the last 6-7 years. There have not been any world beaters, but India have always had 2-3 in-form fast bowlers at any one time. However we are still waiting for an all-time great fast bowler. I think it will happen soon enough.

By the way, a couple of other promising youngsters - Sangwan and Yomahesh.

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India's Test record against Australia over last 12 years:

Played 26, Won 10, Lost 10, Drawn 6

Re: Have Pace, Need Polish
Posted by: Max (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:29:07:27:21

One big concern that the BCCI needs to look into is the fact that many of the Indian fast bowlers come in with a bang, do well for a year or two, and then fade away quickly. It has happened far too often over the last few years to be brushed off as a coincidence. Balaji, Nehra, Munaf, Pathan, and now RP Singh. They either get injured or slow down in pace, or both. Lack of fitness and dead pitches at home could be among the reasons for this.

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India's Test record against Australia over last 12 years:

Played 26, Won 10, Lost 10, Drawn 6

Re: Have Pace, Need Polish
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:29:14:44:46

Yeah that's why they need to be taken care of...even treated with kid gloves if necessary in terms of stress and strain... and polished into the finished product...

If he stays healthy, Ishant looks to be an all time great...

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Re: Have Pace, Need Polish
Posted by: ananthd (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:09:29:19:23:21

Cricket coaches should protect ace pacemen like as they do in baseball...

Most starting pitchers are restricted by a strict pitch count per game as well as almost draconian innings count per season....

I'm wondering if such a system needs to evolve in cricket:

1) Keep track of overs bowled in international & domestic cricket.(Similar to pitch/innings count in baseball)

2) Keep track of the intervals between matches. (Similar to days off between starts for starting pitchers in baseball).


As Birbal said, I actually think if a guy like Munaf is kept under a strict over count as well as match count, he will be very effective. The same goes for Zakky. Ishant seems to be a workhorse but as he ages this will come into play for him as well.

Re: Have Pace, Need Polish
Posted by: Birbal (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:10:01:04:24:14

I guess Venky Prasad is still with the team as Bowling coach... so that is good... hope he can get the pace bowling unit (5-6 bowlers at least) fully fit and ready to drop into the line up at a moments notice...

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