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We Owe Villa - Why Change Winning Team?
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By Boris Mellor
November 14 2008
Just a reminder to Arsenal fans and the team, we owe Villa big time. The fans should show up for this, Walcott said the fans were brilliant against United, the best he has ever heard. No booing players you don't like, no mumbling and groaning get stuck in. So let's not just sit back and relax, urge the team on as you did against Man Utd - it worked did it not?
Dour
November 14 2008
Just a reminder to Arsenal fans and the team, we owe Villa big time. The fans should show up for this, Walcott said the fans were brilliant against United, the best he has ever heard. No booing players you don't like, no mumbling and groaning get stuck in. So let's not just sit back and relax, urge the team on as you did against Man Utd - it worked did it not?
So why do we owe Villa? Well apart from fact I do not like O'Neil sticking his nose into Wenger's business over Stoke, there is the issue of the fans. Last season they came to Arsenal and mocked Eduardo's injury, they are a disgrace. Add to that some of their in your face football last season, including Carew's foul on Hleb, then we owe them a footballing lesson.
I just hope the team does not throw away all the good work it did against Man Utd, and realises the key to the victory was hard work. There is talk of fitness tests on a few players, including Adebayor, but why change a winning team? The team that beat United deserves to be picked again, even Nick should get another go. Those that missed out should have to fight for their place.
Which reminds me what an idiot RvP is, he missed out on the greatest match of the season, but what worries me more is that without him the midfield was so much better. If Wenger sticks to 4-5-1 then Diaby is far more effective than RvP. For the first time in a while, the formation provided a dynamic engine room, but in a way that was an accident.
For if Ade or RvP had been available maybe Wenger would have used a different formation, certainly the personnel would have been different. So if we assume he had still changed to 4-5-1, but with RvP or Ade included would the team have been as effective? We will never know, but anyhow why change a winning team.
I can only see one valid reason for changing a player, and that is Nick, not because of his form, but because he is carrying an injury. However swapping a possibly unfit Ade, for an unfit Bendtner is a zero sum game. Either way it will not affect the formation.
As I said in last week's report one reason that 4-5-1 worked was that Utd are an attacking team. Villa are at present in the midst of a bad spell, having lost two in a row, the sort of thing that would be considered a crisis if it was Arsenal. If O'Neil wants to get back on track, he may feel that an attacking option would be foolhardy, and he has plenty of experience of providing dour 10 men behind the ball teams.
If Villa come for a draw then 4-5-1 may need to change, but carried out in the right way it can provide plenty of back up in attack, as Nasri proved against United. Keep that up and no one will be missing the Belarus Orbital.
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We Owe Villa - Why Change Winning Team?
Posted by: Arsenal Times (IP Logged)
Date: 14/11/2008 11:24
We Owe Villa - Why Change Winning Team?
Re: We Owe Villa - Why Change Winning Team?
Posted by: Merlion96 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/11/2008 11:34
revenge is a dish best eaten cold.
I agreed.
We owe then big tiem for the disgraceful behaviour of their fans.
And the TEAM cannot afford to slip up enhancing the gloatigns from thsoe a.s.sholes.
What we need is to smash 'em up comprehensively.
Bentner injured?
Vela having a problem?
I hope not as it means Jay Simpson is the only striker left standing...or rotate Walcott as central striker.
I will retain the same team if bentner is healthy - an attacking 4-5-1
...............Almunia
.Sagna....Gallas....Silvestre....Clichy
..................Diaby
.Walcott...Denilson...Fabregas...Nasri
...............Bendtner
Diaby and bendtner got the height to help out in defence.
And we need ana ssertive Almunia to come out and attack the ball when Aston Villa will surely hoof the ball with Young crossing for Agbonlohar and Carew.
We will worry too much if O'Neill deploys 9-0-1 as Walcott and NAsri will shred their flanks and tiem for them to dribble through with bendtner bashing them up through the centre.
And with Fabregas dictating passes in the box and Diaby coming in deep.....we should be able to tear up Villa defence.
The key is for Fabregas to play high-up on the pitch like a deep-lying striker spraying all those passes and drift into box when Villa decided to hold up for a point and hit us on the counter-attack.
And it si also tiem for Walcott to deliver instead of absent, driftign in and out of the game.
Bendtner's task is to hold up the ball, win the ball in the box for our attacking midfielders driving into the box to score...and as a focus as targetman in the box when using the option for a quick through ball for him to score...like Simpson or Vela.
I agreed.
We owe then big tiem for the disgraceful behaviour of their fans.
And the TEAM cannot afford to slip up enhancing the gloatigns from thsoe a.s.sholes.
What we need is to smash 'em up comprehensively.
Bentner injured?
Vela having a problem?
I hope not as it means Jay Simpson is the only striker left standing...or rotate Walcott as central striker.
I will retain the same team if bentner is healthy - an attacking 4-5-1
...............Almunia
.Sagna....Gallas....Silvestre....Clichy
..................Diaby
.Walcott...Denilson...Fabregas...Nasri
...............Bendtner
Diaby and bendtner got the height to help out in defence.
And we need ana ssertive Almunia to come out and attack the ball when Aston Villa will surely hoof the ball with Young crossing for Agbonlohar and Carew.
We will worry too much if O'Neill deploys 9-0-1 as Walcott and NAsri will shred their flanks and tiem for them to dribble through with bendtner bashing them up through the centre.
And with Fabregas dictating passes in the box and Diaby coming in deep.....we should be able to tear up Villa defence.
The key is for Fabregas to play high-up on the pitch like a deep-lying striker spraying all those passes and drift into box when Villa decided to hold up for a point and hit us on the counter-attack.
And it si also tiem for Walcott to deliver instead of absent, driftign in and out of the game.
Bendtner's task is to hold up the ball, win the ball in the box for our attacking midfielders driving into the box to score...and as a focus as targetman in the box when using the option for a quick through ball for him to score...like Simpson or Vela.
Re: We Owe Villa - Why Change Winning Team?
Posted by: mapleleafgooner (IP Logged)
Date: 14/11/2008 13:30
No matter how well Bendtler did against ManUre, Wenger will pick Ade over Bendtler once Ade is fit. I would prefer to play both Ade and Bendtler upfront at home against Villa.
Re: We Owe Villa - Why Change Winning Team?
Posted by: Padre Pio (IP Logged)
Date: 14/11/2008 14:12
Wenger said in prog notes that Nick is playing through an ankle injury.
What worries me about 4-4-2 is that our midfield is too wek to carry it, unless we have a Paddy or a Flam
What worries me about 4-4-2 is that our midfield is too wek to carry it, unless we have a Paddy or a Flam
Re: We Owe Villa - Why Change Winning Team?
Posted by: Zainy (IP Logged)
Date: 14/11/2008 15:38
Djourou or Toure need to step up if given the opportunity to be the back four shield. We cant buy till jan and its unlikely that wenger will buy without a long term injury or 3 to the defensive set up.
Re: We Owe Villa - Why Change Winning Team?
Posted by: pk_gunner (IP Logged)
Date: 14/11/2008 17:18
If we go by opposition fans behaviour, then we pretty much owe it to the whole league.
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Re: We Owe Villa - Why Change Winning Team?
Posted by: mapleleafgooner (IP Logged)
Date: 14/11/2008 19:10
Quote:Zainy
Djourou or Toure need to step up if given the opportunity to be the back four shield. We cant buy till jan and its unlikely that wenger will buy without a long term injury or 3 to the defensive set up.
Wenger seemed to have settled for Gallas/Silvestre pairing at CD. Hence there is no chance for Djourou or Toure to start unless Gallas or Silvestre is injured. Also it is very unlikely Wenger will go into the transfer market in January unless it is for some unknown kid or an experienced player on a free transfer.
Re: We Owe Villa - Why Change Winning Team?
Posted by: Padre Pio (IP Logged)
Date: 14/11/2008 19:25
I dont recall any other oppo fans singing a song as vile as the one the Villa fans did. we still owe them for two draws at home. Lets stuff them
Re: We Owe Villa - Why Change Winning Team?
Posted by: Zainy (IP Logged)
Date: 14/11/2008 19:31
MPL - i dont expect them to start but I was referring to them taking the DCM position if they are given the opportunity (back four shield- not part of the back four)
Unlikely but you never know.
Unlikely but you never know.
Re: We Owe Villa - Why Change Winning Team?
Posted by: pk_gunner (IP Logged)
Date: 15/11/2008 13:28
Quote:Padre Pio
I dont recall any other oppo fans singing a song as vile as the one the Villa fans did. we still owe them for two draws at home. Lets stuff them
True enough but that song did spread pretty fast.
Heard it at lots of aways after that (northern especially, Wigan, Bolton, even Derby!)
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