Blackie in action
Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Blackie in action
By Grockle
April 23 2008
Mike Munday starts for the first time in 2008 against a very strong Lancashire side. This is a true test of our ability to compete in the big league. Mark Turner also starts as Steff Jones sits this one out. This page will report on Days 1 and 2 - let's hope we are still in it by the halfway stage!!
Blackie in action
April 23 2008
Mike Munday starts for the first time in 2008 against a very strong Lancashire side. This is a true test of our ability to compete in the big league. Mark Turner also starts as Steff Jones sits this one out. This page will report on Days 1 and 2 - let's hope we are still in it by the halfway stage!!
v Lancashire (CC1) @ Old Trafford Wednesday 23 April 2008
Justin wins the toss and chooses to bat first with a side that comprises of;
Trescothick, Francis, Langer, Hildreth, Blackwell, Trego, Kieswetter,Phillips, Turner, Munday, Willoughby
It took Cricinfo about and hour and a half to decide that Mike was starting for the first time. Good job we chose to bat or he might have gone home thinking he wasn't playing!!
About right I suppose. I've suggested that Jones was unlucky not to play instead of Trego after Sunday and besides seeming to state blasphemy it makes little difference and possibly gives us a more confident batting line-up as we are not certain of the nature of Phillips with willow. We are strong at the front end anyway and the top 5 should be able to hold their own even against an attack like the one from the Red Rose cohort.
DAY ONE
Marcus and John open against Chapple and Anderson who seem to have given them a torrid time until the shone rubs off a bit. Frank doesn't last as long as we (or he) would have liked as he is found to be in front at 13 with only 2 to his name. First blood to Chapple. Not a great start and it doesn't get much better when our resident Aussie doesn't make it past half an hour before leaving with the same score after placing another Chapple ball in the hands of Mahood. I think we were hoping for better than 2 for 31.
Trescothick is also struggling to hold down the other end and is dropped early but he seems to have settled when James H becomes his next partner and they start to re-build the innings as Mahmood comes on as first change. Unfortunately, James fails to adapt and the new bowler has him caught behind for 22. 7 short of three figures for his team. Ian Blackwell arrives, still with a rebuilding job to do and he helps Banger move past 50 (after having been dropped again).
Marcus Trudging...
At 77 the luck runs out and we are 123 for 4 with a weight starting to develop on the shoulders of Blackwell and more pressure on Peter Trego because this is the reason he was preferred in the first place.
The boys get down to the job at hand and move the score past 150 and towards 200 but Flintoff takes a hand in the game and has Trigger caught behind at 171 for 28. It isn't going well and it doesn't get better as our young wicketkeeper also struggles against the England allrounder and after helping to add 6 is also caught in front without a run to his name. 177 for 6.
Ben Phillips is the next in but the Lancashire bowlers are in a purple patch and only Blackwell is putting up much resistance. The new tall man goes for 1 at 192 to their young spinner (a good sign we all hope though we also all hoped that Phillips would be more difficult to remove). Turner makes 2 and adds 3 and suddenly it's down to Mike Munday to support the recognised batsman and get us a credible first total. This he does with some aplomb and its the more formidable one who goes first caught behind off Mahmood for a really valuable 64
Munday isn't finished and he works with Willoughby to add another 18 before he is the last man out for 21 at 238. Did Langer get it wrong? Has he seen something in this pitch that we haven't yet? Well one will have to hope so because this is not a competitive total unless there is some sign of 'something' in the wicket. Marshall was given a long bowl but Mahmood, Flintoff, Chapple and Anderson seem to have had the measure of our batting with the only real scores coming from Trescothick and Blackwell.
Somerset have 20 overs to rebalance this game. Surprisingly Turner doesn't take the new ball with Willow. That honour is left to Phillips (not something he's commonly known for) but there doesn't seem to be much happening for our attack and Horton and Sutcliffe take on all comers and send them all away again. No real signs of anyone getting into a groove (it's not a huge number of overs) but the ominous part of it is the 60 runs taken at a cost of zero wickets before the end of play. There's some work to do tomorrow.
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Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Grockles.com (IP Logged)
Date: 23/04/2008 20:44
Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 23/04/2008 21:39
Thanks Grockle
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
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Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 23/04/2008 21:48
Excellent stuff.
Let's get after them early tomorrow,the forecast is quite nasty for Manchester so it looks like play could be limited.
I'm as intrigued as the next person as to why Turner didn't get the cherry.
Has anybody discovered the reasoning behind it?
As for the weather let's hope the boys can exploit whatever is in the air or in the pitch when they do get out there.
This match is far from over,they're slightly on top at the moment.
This could yet be a win.
Let's get after them early tomorrow,the forecast is quite nasty for Manchester so it looks like play could be limited.
I'm as intrigued as the next person as to why Turner didn't get the cherry.
Has anybody discovered the reasoning behind it?
As for the weather let's hope the boys can exploit whatever is in the air or in the pitch when they do get out there.
This match is far from over,they're slightly on top at the moment.
This could yet be a win.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: VictheFish (IP Logged)
Date: 23/04/2008 22:23
Early days, early days.
A year ago, when we drew a high scoring game against the 'sex there were statements about the fact that we'd never win Championship matches on a pitch as flat as Taunton. Er, weren't those statements wrong in the end?
It's only one day of four, one match of many. We took a little time to zero in on that winning way last year and this may be no different - and there's AC missing.
If MT can say that Flintoff is ready for Tests after the one day who's to say that he might not say the same about Munday after tomorrow?
Instead of looking like complete newbies a couple of partnerships garnered runs against bowlers of recent international experience on a helpful surface. We didn't roll over and die - anyone can get a good ball, especially when conditions suit the bowler.
JL has obviously set out his stall and stated his intent by batting first. Perhaps they know more about the weather over the next few days, perhaps it was a bold statement. Either way, welcome to Division One. When one good bowler finishes his spell there's no 'pies' to replace him. If we aspire to compete and win at this level then great, an early lesson in hard knocks and a reality check.
Do we adapt and get on with it or freeze like the proverbial rabbit in headlights? I prefer to think that the squad we have will rise to the challenge and compete. Perhaps once a very brief acclimatisation period has passed ...
One battle doesn't lose a campaign and one day doesn't lose a Championship. Have faith and let's see what pans out over the season.
Tomorrow is already another day over here.
VtF.
A year ago, when we drew a high scoring game against the 'sex there were statements about the fact that we'd never win Championship matches on a pitch as flat as Taunton. Er, weren't those statements wrong in the end?
It's only one day of four, one match of many. We took a little time to zero in on that winning way last year and this may be no different - and there's AC missing.
If MT can say that Flintoff is ready for Tests after the one day who's to say that he might not say the same about Munday after tomorrow?
Instead of looking like complete newbies a couple of partnerships garnered runs against bowlers of recent international experience on a helpful surface. We didn't roll over and die - anyone can get a good ball, especially when conditions suit the bowler.
JL has obviously set out his stall and stated his intent by batting first. Perhaps they know more about the weather over the next few days, perhaps it was a bold statement. Either way, welcome to Division One. When one good bowler finishes his spell there's no 'pies' to replace him. If we aspire to compete and win at this level then great, an early lesson in hard knocks and a reality check.
Do we adapt and get on with it or freeze like the proverbial rabbit in headlights? I prefer to think that the squad we have will rise to the challenge and compete. Perhaps once a very brief acclimatisation period has passed ...
One battle doesn't lose a campaign and one day doesn't lose a Championship. Have faith and let's see what pans out over the season.
Tomorrow is already another day over here.
VtF.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 23/04/2008 22:41
Lot of sense there dude!!
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 00:05
Totally agree Vic,I'm far from despondent after the first day.
I've said it on the other thread and I believe it.
We can still come out of this with a first innings lead.
Up and at em I say,let's show them we mean business.
I've said it on the other thread and I believe it.
We can still come out of this with a first innings lead.
Up and at em I say,let's show them we mean business.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: The Diamond ruled ok (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 04:30
Come on you lot , you could be in Div2 ,played 1 lost 1 and not looking too clever against the Welsh at home in round two !
Plenty of time for JL and the boys to turn this game round.
Plenty of time for JL and the boys to turn this game round.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: tufnell parka (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 08:03
currently raining in manchester
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 08:15
Top stuff. I have to say it is good to see Flintoff in the wickets again, but a shame they are ours. Let's hope we can get maximum bowling points.
Those photos are great, but they're all out of proportion on my machine - is it me or the site doing that?
Those photos are great, but they're all out of proportion on my machine - is it me or the site doing that?
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 08:28
My version of the photos suffer too - MKM looks as though he's been under the heavy roller. I'm sure there's some easy technical solution which will be much too hard for me.
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
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Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 08:30
They will start batting today in similar conditions as Somerset yesterday, this should even things up.
Come on SOMERSET.
Come on SOMERSET.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 09:39
It's your orientation I'm afraid guys because they are fine on mine.
I'm doing this work on a laptop which sometimes has a diffrent aspect ratio but I then look at them on a laptop monitor which is different to a desk based PC I'm afraid. I keep the aspect ratio steady where possible but I'm also cnstricted by the page design which requires me to keep a picture inside the boundaries.
It tends to affect the "long and thin" ones rather than the "short and fat" I think
I'm doing this work on a laptop which sometimes has a diffrent aspect ratio but I then look at them on a laptop monitor which is different to a desk based PC I'm afraid. I keep the aspect ratio steady where possible but I'm also cnstricted by the page design which requires me to keep a picture inside the boundaries.
It tends to affect the "long and thin" ones rather than the "short and fat" I think
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 09:53
Munday looks like one of Willy Wonka's munchkins in the above picture.
He looks quite sweet actually,as if he should be singing a merry ditty about the joy of Wonka chocolate.
I'm sure he's taller than that.
In real life.
He looks quite sweet actually,as if he should be singing a merry ditty about the joy of Wonka chocolate.
I'm sure he's taller than that.
In real life.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 09:58
Highlights of yesterday's play are now available on Lancs TV on the main Lancashire site.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 10:01
Was that helpful in your recovery Rob?
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 10:04
Not really Jim as I had a bad night.Let's hope for better today and the weather not as bad as here.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 10:06
The start has been delayed for half an hour so it must be wet up there.
Hopefully.
Hopefully.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 10:08
Beat me to it Jim.
Bit of juice for Willo and Turner to work with, hopefully.
Couple of early ones: in amongst 'em. Easy!
SISSO dictates it!
Bit of juice for Willo and Turner to work with, hopefully.
Couple of early ones: in amongst 'em. Easy!
SISSO dictates it!
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 10:11
My orientation has never been questioned before Grockle, but here's some info:
The Flintoff pic has a size of 296x512 pixels, but according to the source code is displayed on the site at 218x254 pixels.
If no-one else sees/is worred about it I'll shut up. Well, I'll shut up anyway. Cricket's started and SISSO is alive.
The Flintoff pic has a size of 296x512 pixels, but according to the source code is displayed on the site at 218x254 pixels.
If no-one else sees/is worred about it I'll shut up. Well, I'll shut up anyway. Cricket's started and SISSO is alive.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 10:17
A bit concerned about the emergence of SISSO, last season there was no mention of SISUO, and look how well we did. SISSO is a 2008 thing I think.
LoL, I think you may have opened a Pandora's box.
LoL, I think you may have opened a Pandora's box.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 10:39
"Instead of looking like complete newbies a couple of partnerships garnered runs against bowlers of recent international experience on a helpful surface. We didn't roll over and die - anyone can get a good ball, especially when conditions suit the bowler. "
Yes, the difference between this and the 2006 debacle was that we were at least out there a long time, indicating that there was plenty of fight and guys prepared to tough it out even if, on the day, they were over-matched.
Yes, the difference between this and the 2006 debacle was that we were at least out there a long time, indicating that there was plenty of fight and guys prepared to tough it out even if, on the day, they were over-matched.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: tufnell parka (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 10:54
From the Guardian this morning :
Worrying vibes for Somerset about Andy Caddick - Marcus Trescothick admitted after play yesterday that he's going to be out for at least a few weeks with his latest back problem.
Worrying vibes for Somerset about Andy Caddick - Marcus Trescothick admitted after play yesterday that he's going to be out for at least a few weeks with his latest back problem.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 10:59
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... see the other thread.
The bottom line is likely to be that the club do not really know precisely what the score is likely to be. In which case, this is exactly what they should say.
The bottom line is likely to be that the club do not really know precisely what the score is likely to be. In which case, this is exactly what they should say.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 11:02
I don't mean to be antagonistic, but as soon as we've got a "likely" multiplied by a "likely", are we not into the realms of fairly futile speculation?
Why not just let's have a little faith and/or hope and see what transpires?
Why not just let's have a little faith and/or hope and see what transpires?
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 11:13
As per what I've said on the other thread, FE, I have read the quote attributed to Mr Rose on the site and I'm afraid that the content of what he says really does suggest that incorrect information about the club's belief about the nature of Caddy's injury was indeed fed to the media and, indeed, relayed to Grockle.
Injunctions against us having any 'right,' to know about injuries are one thing. But calling for 'faith,' in the club's pronouncements on such matters when the last thing that they said now appears to have been something that they did not themselves belief, seems, to me, to stretch credulity a bit far?
Injunctions against us having any 'right,' to know about injuries are one thing. But calling for 'faith,' in the club's pronouncements on such matters when the last thing that they said now appears to have been something that they did not themselves belief, seems, to me, to stretch credulity a bit far?
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 11:28
Play will start at 12:30pm. A mini-session, I imagine, before lunch.
Meantime, Cricinfo, bizarrely, carries the headline;
"Flintoff sinks Somerset."
I was under the impression this was a 4-day game. Obviously, I was wrong and we were beatean yesterday, thanks to Flintoff.
Meantime, Cricinfo, bizarrely, carries the headline;
"Flintoff sinks Somerset."
I was under the impression this was a 4-day game. Obviously, I was wrong and we were beatean yesterday, thanks to Flintoff.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 11:40
FE - Turner is opening the bowling today, apparently. And 3 overs for 6 overall, does not sound too bad at all.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 11:47
Well done to Mr Turner. We're on our way.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 11:47
Wicket for Turner. Full bowling points is on the cards before tea.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 11:48
Make that 4 overs, 1 for 6 and it's even better!
The rout is on!
The rout is on!
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 11:48
What does that Mr Langer, know, FE!!!??? {i am jestinG}
I J Sutcliffe lbW B Turner 28.
Excellent, we're off and running.
I J Sutcliffe lbW B Turner 28.
Excellent, we're off and running.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 11:52
I wonder what us 4 are all doing! We are sad and obsessed but what the heck.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 11:57
what the heck, indeed!!!
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 12:16
I'm sure everyone will understand what I mean if I say that even the worst news (The Cadmeister being out) can sometimes have a silver lining!
Mark Turner - 2 wickets now and Willow has ripped out Brad Hodge.
Game on!!!
SOMERSET, LA, LA, LA etc
Mark Turner - 2 wickets now and Willow has ripped out Brad Hodge.
Game on!!!
SOMERSET, LA, LA, LA etc
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 12:21
Need to knock Law out nice and early, now.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 12:27
Willow got Hodge with a leg-cutter and a great catch by Craig.
The second of Turner's wickets was with one which 'kept low,' which is interesting this early in the match and might offer further insight into JL's decision to bat first.
The first of Turner's wickets was a yorker.
Both, apparently, were entirely uncontentious decisions.
The second of Turner's wickets was with one which 'kept low,' which is interesting this early in the match and might offer further insight into JL's decision to bat first.
The first of Turner's wickets was a yorker.
Both, apparently, were entirely uncontentious decisions.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 12:30
Turner resting now. Let's get him right back at them after the break.
At the same time, with the Cadmeister hors de combat, we do need to be careful not to over-bowl Willow.
Perhaps we should go into attritional mode at one end and, for instance, bowl Ian at the other end from Turner after lunch, with Turner eventually giving way to MKM at the 'attack,' end?
At the same time, with the Cadmeister hors de combat, we do need to be careful not to over-bowl Willow.
Perhaps we should go into attritional mode at one end and, for instance, bowl Ian at the other end from Turner after lunch, with Turner eventually giving way to MKM at the 'attack,' end?
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 12:34
and there was time for one MKM over before lunch. Will he continue immediately afterward?
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 12:35
Quote:AGod
Meantime, Cricinfo, bizarrely, carries the headline;
"Flintoff sinks Somerset."
I was under the impression this was a 4-day game. Obviously, I was wrong and we were beatean yesterday, thanks to Flintoff.
Tomorrow's headline: Turner sinks Lancs
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 12:40
I'll give you £20 if it says that LoL!!
The headline will be either;
"Flintoff flops."
or
"Freddie flays Somerset."
They'll use one or the other even he scores 30 off 73 balls (i.e. a pretty average effort and neither a flop nor a triumph.)
The headline will be either;
"Flintoff flops."
or
"Freddie flays Somerset."
They'll use one or the other even he scores 30 off 73 balls (i.e. a pretty average effort and neither a flop nor a triumph.)
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 13:22
Get one of these Aussies out and we're down to the tail.
Great effort boys,rip em apart.
Great effort boys,rip em apart.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Ajay (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 13:31
New headline and report on ECB site....
'Turner turns the game'
'Turner turns the game'
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 13:36
I'd settle for 170 for 5 after 55 overs. There are a lot of twists and turns left in this game and all our bowlers seem to be performing. Soon be time for Ian,
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod2 (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 13:40
Yes, I want Ian sooner rather than later. And then we can really attack with Turner/MKM/Willow at the other end!?
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 13:44
Nice one Trigger.
Who would have thought about dropping him?(only joking Grockle)
Who would have thought about dropping him?(only joking Grockle)
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 13:48
Trigger is my hero,
Trigger is my hero,
La la la la
Flintoff Floored by Tremendous Trigger.
Trigger is my hero,
La la la la
Flintoff Floored by Tremendous Trigger.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 13:49
... and remember, assuming this game follows a normal course, who is going to have to bat last...
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
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Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 13:50
I just bet a pint with Lancashire fan in my office that we'd win this, and he was less than flattering when he saw that BoBo had come on to bowl.
Tee hee!
Tee hee!
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 13:50
This guy Trego looks promising, BJ. Can you tell us something more about him?
LoL
LoL
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: 0117 (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 13:50
Payback time from PT and CK
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 13:53
I think brotherof will be feeling well vindicated at this moment. Good on Pete.
Craig seems to be performing very well too.
"Flintoff Fails" it is then.
Craig seems to be performing very well too.
"Flintoff Fails" it is then.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 13:55
I am sworn to silence about young Mr Trego LoL.
All I'll say about him is that in my opinion he is the best allrounder in the land by a Country mile.
If he played for one of the more fashionable Counties he'd already have represented England and have a public profile to match the likes of Flintoff and Pietersen.
Apart from that I'll keep my silence.
All I'll say about him is that in my opinion he is the best allrounder in the land by a Country mile.
If he played for one of the more fashionable Counties he'd already have represented England and have a public profile to match the likes of Flintoff and Pietersen.
Apart from that I'll keep my silence.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 13:57
Treeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeegggggggggggooooooooooooooo!!!
The Championship bandwagon starts here.
Oust Law and we really will be in business!
The Championship bandwagon starts here.
Oust Law and we really will be in business!
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 14:07
Andy who? 
Come on lads; keep it going!
Come on lads; keep it going!
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 14:07
Turner has banished the Aussie!!!!
Is this the new......
No, I'm not going to be foolish enough to ask....
.... yet.
Is this the new......
No, I'm not going to be foolish enough to ask....
.... yet.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 14:10
Your discretion and restraints are much appreciated, BJ.
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
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Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 14:10
Yep Pete and Mark are the pick of our bowlers at the moment so let's not let them gat away now and go into the second bit of this game at least on level pegging.
It may have been a good decision to bat first after all
Looking at Mark's figures makes it even more of a puzzle why they didn't let him have the new ball. But there you go. Who cares if it all comes right in the end.
One thing though BJ. Trigger's been at more fashionable counties but we've brought whatever is there out in him and if he puts it all together enough times then he'll make them notice him. The good thing this year is that he can do it in the FIRST DIVISION and get reported on.
It may have been a good decision to bat first after all
Looking at Mark's figures makes it even more of a puzzle why they didn't let him have the new ball. But there you go. Who cares if it all comes right in the end.
One thing though BJ. Trigger's been at more fashionable counties but we've brought whatever is there out in him and if he puts it all together enough times then he'll make them notice him. The good thing this year is that he can do it in the FIRST DIVISION and get reported on.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 14:16
"go into the second bit of this game at least on level pegging."
I'm hoping for better, Grockle, but know what you mean.
Luke Sutton remains and we've had trouble with Chapple in the past.
I'm hoping for better, Grockle, but know what you mean.
Luke Sutton remains and we've had trouble with Chapple in the past.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 14:16
You there, Tuffers?
I just had another look at the Guardian blog, and Mr. Wilson needs his attention drawing to Munday's 21 runs. Not bad for a "terrible" batsman against that attack!
I just had another look at the Guardian blog, and Mr. Wilson needs his attention drawing to Munday's 21 runs. Not bad for a "terrible" batsman against that attack!
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 14:34
Well, it will surprise none of us one iota, but I wonder if Duncan Fletcher and the wretched Agnew and whatever internal doubters he may have in the SCCC hierarchy have noticed that Ian has made considerably more runs then the bally-hooed Hodge, Law and Freddie.
Incidentally, I was annoyed to note that Ian was strangled down the leg-side, so Lancs may have got off lightly, as well..
Incidentally, I was annoyed to note that Ian was strangled down the leg-side, so Lancs may have got off lightly, as well..
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 14:46
Munday takes his first of 2008 !
Well done !
Grizzzly
Well done !
Grizzzly
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 14:46
Foot on the neck now boys!
Don't let 'em up for air.
Don't let 'em up for air.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 14:47
LoL - the only thing I would say about Lancs batting last (despite the ball from Turner that kept low earlier) is that the forecast for Saturday is, I gather, really rather good.
Then again, if MKM can swiftly polish them off, maybe we won't need much of Saturday!?
Then again, if MKM can swiftly polish them off, maybe we won't need much of Saturday!?
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 14:47
Can you lot slow down a bit I’ve just got in from the dentist, there is so much to read.
When I was in the car sports report said there was a recovery after losing three quick wickets.
When I got indoors they were six down while typing this they are seven down, I can’t keep up with this!!
When I was in the car sports report said there was a recovery after losing three quick wickets.
When I got indoors they were six down while typing this they are seven down, I can’t keep up with this!!
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 14:49
Who needs Saturday when you've got a Munday, eh, AG?
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 14:53
Time to get rid of Lancs' Millfield boy.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 14:54
brilliant, Bloke, thank you very, very much for posting that.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 15:06
well, it doesn't look as if we will ever take another wicket now......
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: BVI Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 15:08
Munday proving very difficult to get away. Very encouraging.
On Sutton, I was under the impression that we had him on our books but he left as Turner was not about to retire at the time. You can't begrudge a guy for wanting to play to a high standard, and he's clearly making the most of his ability. I always look for his performance, along with our other alumni.
That said, I hope he shoulders arms to a Munday wrong'un.... NOW!
BVI Grockle
On Sutton, I was under the impression that we had him on our books but he left as Turner was not about to retire at the time. You can't begrudge a guy for wanting to play to a high standard, and he's clearly making the most of his ability. I always look for his performance, along with our other alumni.
That said, I hope he shoulders arms to a Munday wrong'un.... NOW!
BVI Grockle
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 15:17
Munday's bowling at 1.97 an over, that is good bowling
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 15:18
Ian is in the attack now and hopefully will continue after tea. At the very least, that should ensure that runs totally dry up and we can grind Lancs down and still get a first innings lead.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 15:21
I know Pete's history thanks Grockle,though your thoughts are appreciated.
He has always been a Somerset boy and I know many of us were chuffed when he came home.
He is now showing the quality we all knew he had,and has been for at least the last year.
Let's hope he and all the others can push home the advantage here.
Today has been superb.
It's all to play for now.
He has always been a Somerset boy and I know many of us were chuffed when he came home.
He is now showing the quality we all knew he had,and has been for at least the last year.
Let's hope he and all the others can push home the advantage here.
Today has been superb.
It's all to play for now.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 15:29
If MT produces a 2nd innings performance that even remotely resembles his first then, I assume, it might be Phillips that would miss out, should AC be fit next time out?
Hopefully, this will occur to BP and spur him to bowl out of his skin in their 2nd knock, too!
Can you imagine if we were left with a really hard decision about who to leave out in favour of Caddy how great that would be?
Of course, it might also mean that we can give AC extra recovery time, rather than take any chances. That would be even better (if necessary)!
Hopefully, this will occur to BP and spur him to bowl out of his skin in their 2nd knock, too!
Can you imagine if we were left with a really hard decision about who to leave out in favour of Caddy how great that would be?
Of course, it might also mean that we can give AC extra recovery time, rather than take any chances. That would be even better (if necessary)!
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 15:32
Bumble says that there are flash-floods occurring 20 miles from Old Trafford (Prestbury).
Fingers crossed, lads!
Fingers crossed, lads!
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 15:40
Let's worry about that when he's fit, AG.
We don't want to tempt fate, do we?
We don't want to tempt fate, do we?
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 15:51
Can I re-phrase the question and ask whether Mr Rose will be intending to move Alphonso Thomas straight into the team and, if so, whose place Thomas would assume?
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 16:05
Not a run off Ian so far.
It's looking like it will be really tight on first-innings though.
This morning, I'd have been delighted with that.
Two hours ago, I was hoping for a bit better..
It's looking like it will be really tight on first-innings though.
This morning, I'd have been delighted with that.
Two hours ago, I was hoping for a bit better..
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 16:07
Concentrate again everyone.
Think wickets falling.
Think,think,think.
Concentrate.
Wickets.
We want wickets.
Think wickets falling.
Think,think,think.
Concentrate.
Wickets.
We want wickets.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 16:10
Yes it's a hell of a quandry isn't it - Thomas may have to play a seconds game or two to show he's got the English conditions down pat first.
Good economy rates from all of the boys today though but Turner has been revelation.
Anyone think this is because he hasn't been seen before? He really shook up some of the batsmen who faced him last year as well because he doesn't look like he's capable of generating the pace he does - and if anything he's generating more this year than last!!
Good economy rates from all of the boys today though but Turner has been revelation.
Anyone think this is because he hasn't been seen before? He really shook up some of the batsmen who faced him last year as well because he doesn't look like he's capable of generating the pace he does - and if anything he's generating more this year than last!!
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 16:16
I suspect the OT pitch has plenty of pace too. The Test Match pitches usually do and Mr Rose said that the decision between Jonah and Mark would be based upon 'how much pace is in the pitch.'
I expect Mark might like to roll this strip up and take it with him!
I expect Mark might like to roll this strip up and take it with him!
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 16:27
Do we have a new ball after 80 overs?
Or 85?
pacemen are back on now.
Or 85?
pacemen are back on now.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 16:30
I saw Turner at Scarborough last year and was impressed with him for most of the time. He even found his way into my picks fro my Telegraph team-depending how often he plays. Sutton has done well in recent years-we could do with him out.
I think they will be out for under 250-once 1 falls the rest will go.
I think they will be out for under 250-once 1 falls the rest will go.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 16:36
cricinfo has seized up now;
rain?
a collapse?
rain?
a collapse?
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 16:49
Ben's wicketlessness compared to the others isn't doing much to belie perceptions of him as economical whilst not particularly threatening!
(He said in the sure and certain hope of being imminently made to look foolish)
(He said in the sure and certain hope of being imminently made to look foolish)
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 16:55
Didn't we once vote that these LORs weren't allowed any more? Except when we're batting, of course.
And then, of course, they're not Rs, at all; merely continuations of the serene progress of the UO.
And then, of course, they're not Rs, at all; merely continuations of the serene progress of the UO.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Wickham (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 17:19
FE: I think that you can reasonably claim an "assist" in BP's dismissal of Luke Sutton.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 17:22
Come on! Happy to do my bit for the cause.
And I'm metaphorically taking the high fives from the team as we speak!
And I'm metaphorically taking the high fives from the team as we speak!
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 17:23
And he hammers the point home with Mahmood first ball!
Get in!
Get in!
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Wickham (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 17:36
FE: you missed your hat-trick. Must try harder.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 17:52
Perhaps bloke should be reassured that if the type of occurence which gave birth to SISUO is happening once more, then the time for SISSO is upon us!
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 18:00
Quite a nice little side show at Old Trafford today amid the stunning Somerset bowling performance.
Simon Marshall, third top scorer for Lancashire batting at No.9 - and still there tomorrow morning - hit an unbeaten century for Cambridge in the University match in 2003 and 98 the following year.
And among the Oxford bowlers on both occasions, our own Michael Munday (seven wickets in 2003 including a five-fur, and six in 2004).
One good omen for their current meeting - Oxford won both matches.
Simon Marshall, third top scorer for Lancashire batting at No.9 - and still there tomorrow morning - hit an unbeaten century for Cambridge in the University match in 2003 and 98 the following year.
And among the Oxford bowlers on both occasions, our own Michael Munday (seven wickets in 2003 including a five-fur, and six in 2004).
One good omen for their current meeting - Oxford won both matches.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod2 (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 20:06
Well done to Ben.
Ian's innings is looking better and better. Don't know how well, or otherwise, Horton played but, from reports, there seems little doubt that Ian's was much the best innings on our team and he scored many more runs than anyone bar Horton in the Lancs team.
Ian's innings is looking better and better. Don't know how well, or otherwise, Horton played but, from reports, there seems little doubt that Ian's was much the best innings on our team and he scored many more runs than anyone bar Horton in the Lancs team.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Bagpuss (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 20:18
If this match had been at Taunton I think Frosty would have been hammering down the covers rather than pushing to get the teams out for four final overs. As per usual the teams went off at 6.30 in glorious sunshine. Forecast for tomorrow a bit dodgy especially from mid afternoon onwards.
A great performance today that had all the Lancashire members grumbling in the 'pit of hate' - a good sign methinks!
A great performance today that had all the Lancashire members grumbling in the 'pit of hate' - a good sign methinks!
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 20:44
From this year the umpires have the only say about playing conditions whether they should play or not.
I think it is good thing but are all of the umpires strong enough after all both captains right a report on the umpires after each match.
I think it is good thing but are all of the umpires strong enough after all both captains right a report on the umpires after each match.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 20:51
Excellent performance by all of them,a superb team effort.
Once again this team is able to show their spirit and keep on fighting whereas in the past they may have given up.
This is no surprise,they are built of stern stuff these days and will take a lot of beating.
Let's all take the message and not get too down on ourselves when things go a little wrong.
Be positive.
Be bold.
That's what will win us the County Championship.
Once again this team is able to show their spirit and keep on fighting whereas in the past they may have given up.
This is no surprise,they are built of stern stuff these days and will take a lot of beating.
Let's all take the message and not get too down on ourselves when things go a little wrong.
Be positive.
Be bold.
That's what will win us the County Championship.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 21:07
When goes Lancs TV become available (When they have a good day) The latest clip is from yesterday.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 21:38
A lovely picture and quote from our hero here.
Flintoff Floored by Tremendous Trego
I really hope Flitoff gets back to his best with the bat,England needs him.
As long as it's not against us that is.
Flintoff Floored by Tremendous Trego
I really hope Flitoff gets back to his best with the bat,England needs him.
As long as it's not against us that is.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 22:18
Very good they are to.
That sky looked threatening in the top picture.
That sky looked threatening in the top picture.
Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: fRed (IP Logged)
Date: 24/04/2008 22:52
Rain cannot defy Somerset.
Cricket's the winner.
Cricket's the winner.
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