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Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)

Blackie in action
By Grockle April 23 2008
Mike Munday starts for the first time in 2008 against a very strong Lancashire side. This is a true test of our ability to compete in the big league. Mark Turner also starts as Steff Jones sits this one out. This page will report on Days 1 and 2 - let's hope we are still in it by the halfway stage!!

v Lancashire (CC1) @ Old Trafford Wednesday 23 April 2008

Scorecard

Justin wins the toss and chooses to bat first with a side that comprises of;

Trescothick, Francis, Langer, Hildreth, Blackwell, Trego, Kieswetter,Phillips, Turner, Munday, Willoughby

It took Cricinfo about and hour and a half to decide that Mike was starting for the first time.  Good job we chose to bat or he might have gone home thinking he wasn't playing!!

About right I suppose.  I've suggested that Jones was unlucky not to play instead of Trego after Sunday and besides seeming to state blasphemy it makes little difference and possibly gives us a more confident batting line-up as we are not certain of the nature of Phillips with willow.  We are strong at the front end anyway and the top 5 should be able to hold their own even against an attack like the one from the Red Rose cohort.

DAY ONE 

Lancashires Andrew Flintoff walks out with team mates to play Somerset during the LV County Champion Marcus and John open against Chapple and Anderson who seem to have given them a torrid time until the shone rubs off a bit.  Frank doesn't last as long as we (or he) would have liked as he is found to be in front at 13 with only 2 to his name. First blood to Chapple.  Not a great start and it doesn't get much better when our resident Aussie doesn't make it past half an hour before leaving with the same score after placing another Chapple ball in the hands of Mahood.  I think we were hoping for better than 2 for 31.

Somersets Marcus Trescothick, right, and Justin Langer run between the wickets against Lancashire du

Trescothick is also struggling to hold down the other end and is dropped early but he seems to have settled when James H becomes his next partner and they start to re-build the innings as Mahmood comes on as first change. Unfortunately, James fails to adapt and the new bowler has him caught behind for 22.  7 short of three figures for his team.  Ian Blackwell arrives, still with a rebuilding job to do and he helps Banger move past 50 (after having been dropped again). 

Marcus Trescothick trudges off after making 77 against Lancashire during the LV County Cha 

Marcus Trudging...

At 77 the luck runs out and we are 123 for 4 with a weight starting to develop on the shoulders of Blackwell and more pressure on Peter Trego because this is the reason he was preferred in the first place.

Somersets Ian Blackwell in action

The boys get down to the job at hand and move the score past 150 and towards 200 but Flintoff takes a hand in the game and has Trigger caught behind at 171 for 28.  It isn't going well and it doesn't get better as our young wicketkeeper also struggles against the England allrounder and after helping to add 6 is also caught in front without a run to his name. 177 for 6.

Lancashire Andrew Flintoff bowls to James Hildreth of Somerset during the LV County Champonship Divi  Ben Phillips is the next in but the Lancashire bowlers are in a purple patch and only Blackwell is putting up much resistance.  The new tall man goes for 1 at 192 to their young spinner (a good sign we all hope though we also all hoped that Phillips would be more difficult to remove).  Turner makes 2 and adds 3 and suddenly it's down to Mike Munday to support the recognised batsman and get us a credible first total. This he does with some aplomb and its the more formidable one who goes first caught behind off Mahmood for a really valuable 64

Munday isn't finished and he works with Willoughby to add another 18 before he is the last man out for 21 at 238.  Did Langer get it wrong?  Has he seen something in this pitch that we haven't yet?  Well one will have to hope so because this is not a competitive total unless there is some sign of 'something' in the wicket.  Marshall was given a long bowl but Mahmood, Flintoff, Chapple and Anderson seem to have had the measure of our batting with the only real scores coming from Trescothick and Blackwell.

Lancashires Sajid Mahmood is congratulated after taking the wicket of Somersets James Hildreth

Somerset have 20 overs to rebalance this game.  Surprisingly Turner doesn't take the new ball with Willow. That honour is left to Phillips (not something he's commonly known for) but there doesn't seem to be much happening for our attack and Horton and Sutcliffe take on all comers and send them all away again. No real signs of anyone getting into a groove (it's not a huge number of overs) but the ominous part of it is the 60 runs taken at a cost of zero wickets before the end of play.  There's some work to do tomorrow. 

Somersets Michael Munday bowls during day three of the LV County Championship Division Two match at
 

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Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:23:22:39:02

Thanks Grockle

LoL

Sixty Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:23:22:48:37

Excellent stuff.
Let's get after them early tomorrow,the forecast is quite nasty for Manchester so it looks like play could be limited.
I'm as intrigued as the next person as to why Turner didn't get the cherry.
Has anybody discovered the reasoning behind it?
As for the weather let's hope the boys can exploit whatever is in the air or in the pitch when they do get out there.
This match is far from over,they're slightly on top at the moment.
This could yet be a win.

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: VictheFish (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:23:23:23:13

Early days, early days.

A year ago, when we drew a high scoring game against the 'sex there were statements about the fact that we'd never win Championship matches on a pitch as flat as Taunton. Er, weren't those statements wrong in the end?

It's only one day of four, one match of many. We took a little time to zero in on that winning way last year and this may be no different - and there's AC missing.

If MT can say that Flintoff is ready for Tests after the one day who's to say that he might not say the same about Munday after tomorrow?

Instead of looking like complete newbies a couple of partnerships garnered runs against bowlers of recent international experience on a helpful surface. We didn't roll over and die - anyone can get a good ball, especially when conditions suit the bowler.

JL has obviously set out his stall and stated his intent by batting first. Perhaps they know more about the weather over the next few days, perhaps it was a bold statement. Either way, welcome to Division One. When one good bowler finishes his spell there's no 'pies' to replace him. If we aspire to compete and win at this level then great, an early lesson in hard knocks and a reality check.

Do we adapt and get on with it or freeze like the proverbial rabbit in headlights? I prefer to think that the squad we have will rise to the challenge and compete. Perhaps once a very brief acclimatisation period has passed ...

One battle doesn't lose a campaign and one day doesn't lose a Championship. Have faith and let's see what pans out over the season.

Tomorrow is already another day over here.

VtF.

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:23:23:41:36

Lot of sense there dude!!

(Sm72)

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:01:05:05

Totally agree Vic,I'm far from despondent after the first day.
I've said it on the other thread and I believe it.
We can still come out of this with a first innings lead.
Up and at em I say,let's show them we mean business.

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: The Diamond ruled ok (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:05:30:18

Come on you lot , you could be in Div2 ,played 1 lost 1 and not looking too clever against the Welsh at home in round two !

Plenty of time for JL and the boys to turn this game round.

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: tufnell parka (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:09:03:11

currently raining in manchester

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:09:15:13

Top stuff. I have to say it is good to see Flintoff in the wickets again, but a shame they are ours. Let's hope we can get maximum bowling points.

Those photos are great, but they're all out of proportion on my machine - is it me or the site doing that?

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:09:28:15

My version of the photos suffer too - MKM looks as though he's been under the heavy roller. I'm sure there's some easy technical solution which will be much too hard for me.

LoL

Sixty Seasons a Somerset Supporter



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Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:09:30:29

They will start batting today in similar conditions as Somerset yesterday, this should even things up.

Come on SOMERSET.

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Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:10:39:57

It's your orientation I'm afraid guys because they are fine on mine.

I'm doing this work on a laptop which sometimes has a diffrent aspect ratio but I then look at them on a laptop monitor which is different to a desk based PC I'm afraid. I keep the aspect ratio steady where possible but I'm also cnstricted by the page design which requires me to keep a picture inside the boundaries.

It tends to affect the "long and thin" ones rather than the "short and fat" I think

(Sm72)

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:10:53:45

Munday looks like one of Willy Wonka's munchkins in the above picture.
He looks quite sweet actually,as if he should be singing a merry ditty about the joy of Wonka chocolate.
I'm sure he's taller than that.
In real life.

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:10:58:04

Highlights of yesterday's play are now available on Lancs TV on the main Lancashire site.

Now living in Saltford

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:11:01:29

Was that helpful in your recovery Rob?

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:11:04:34

Not really Jim as I had a bad night.Let's hope for better today and the weather not as bad as here.

Now living in Saltford

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:11:06:02

The start has been delayed for half an hour so it must be wet up there.
Hopefully.

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:11:08:36

Beat me to it Jim.
Bit of juice for Willo and Turner to work with, hopefully.
Couple of early ones: in amongst 'em. Easy!

SISSO dictates it!

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:11:11:18

My orientation has never been questioned before Grockle, but here's some info:

The Flintoff pic has a size of 296x512 pixels, but according to the source code is displayed on the site at 218x254 pixels.

If no-one else sees/is worred about it I'll shut up. Well, I'll shut up anyway. Cricket's started and SISSO is alive.

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:11:17:35

A bit concerned about the emergence of SISSO, last season there was no mention of SISUO, and look how well we did. SISSO is a 2008 thing I think.

LoL, I think you may have opened a Pandora's box.

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:11:39:35

"Instead of looking like complete newbies a couple of partnerships garnered runs against bowlers of recent international experience on a helpful surface. We didn't roll over and die - anyone can get a good ball, especially when conditions suit the bowler. "

Yes, the difference between this and the 2006 debacle was that we were at least out there a long time, indicating that there was plenty of fight and guys prepared to tough it out even if, on the day, they were over-matched.

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: tufnell parka (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:11:54:21

From the Guardian this morning :

Worrying vibes for Somerset about Andy Caddick - Marcus Trescothick admitted after play yesterday that he's going to be out for at least a few weeks with his latest back problem.

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:11:59:40

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... see the other thread.

The bottom line is likely to be that the club do not really know precisely what the score is likely to be. In which case, this is exactly what they should say.

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:12:02:18

I don't mean to be antagonistic, but as soon as we've got a "likely" multiplied by a "likely", are we not into the realms of fairly futile speculation?
Why not just let's have a little faith and/or hope and see what transpires?

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:12:13:39

As per what I've said on the other thread, FE, I have read the quote attributed to Mr Rose on the site and I'm afraid that the content of what he says really does suggest that incorrect information about the club's belief about the nature of Caddy's injury was indeed fed to the media and, indeed, relayed to Grockle.

Injunctions against us having any 'right,' to know about injuries are one thing. But calling for 'faith,' in the club's pronouncements on such matters when the last thing that they said now appears to have been something that they did not themselves belief, seems, to me, to stretch credulity a bit far?

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:12:28:41

Play will start at 12:30pm. A mini-session, I imagine, before lunch.

Meantime, Cricinfo, bizarrely, carries the headline;

"Flintoff sinks Somerset."

I was under the impression this was a 4-day game. Obviously, I was wrong and we were beatean yesterday, thanks to Flintoff.

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:12:40:29

FE - Turner is opening the bowling today, apparently. And 3 overs for 6 overall, does not sound too bad at all.

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:12:47:11

Well done to Mr Turner. We're on our way.

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:12:47:32

Wicket for Turner. Full bowling points is on the cards before tea.

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:12:48:06

Make that 4 overs, 1 for 6 and it's even better!

The rout is on!

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:12:48:18

What does that Mr Langer, know, FE!!!??? {i am jestinG}

I J Sutcliffe lbW B Turner 28.

Excellent, we're off and running.

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:12:52:49

I wonder what us 4 are all doing! We are sad and obsessed but what the heck.

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:12:57:11

what the heck, indeed!!!

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:13:16:45

I'm sure everyone will understand what I mean if I say that even the worst news (The Cadmeister being out) can sometimes have a silver lining!

Mark Turner - 2 wickets now and Willow has ripped out Brad Hodge.

Game on!!!

SOMERSET, LA, LA, LA etc

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:13:21:29

Need to knock Law out nice and early, now.

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:13:27:36

Willow got Hodge with a leg-cutter and a great catch by Craig.

The second of Turner's wickets was with one which 'kept low,' which is interesting this early in the match and might offer further insight into JL's decision to bat first.

The first of Turner's wickets was a yorker.

Both, apparently, were entirely uncontentious decisions.

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:13:30:55

Turner resting now. Let's get him right back at them after the break.

At the same time, with the Cadmeister hors de combat, we do need to be careful not to over-bowl Willow.

Perhaps we should go into attritional mode at one end and, for instance, bowl Ian at the other end from Turner after lunch, with Turner eventually giving way to MKM at the 'attack,' end?

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:13:34:22

and there was time for one MKM over before lunch. Will he continue immediately afterward?

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:13:35:50

Quote:
AGod
Meantime, Cricinfo, bizarrely, carries the headline;
"Flintoff sinks Somerset."

I was under the impression this was a 4-day game. Obviously, I was wrong and we were beatean yesterday, thanks to Flintoff.

Tomorrow's headline: Turner sinks Lancs

LoL

Sixty Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:13:40:40

I'll give you £20 if it says that LoL!!

The headline will be either;

"Flintoff flops."

or

"Freddie flays Somerset."

They'll use one or the other even he scores 30 off 73 balls (i.e. a pretty average effort and neither a flop nor a triumph.)

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:14:22:47

Get one of these Aussies out and we're down to the tail.
Great effort boys,rip em apart.

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Ajay (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:14:31:50

New headline and report on ECB site....

'Turner turns the game'

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:14:36:45

I'd settle for 170 for 5 after 55 overs. There are a lot of twists and turns left in this game and all our bowlers seem to be performing. Soon be time for Ian,

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod2 (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:14:40:10

Yes, I want Ian sooner rather than later. And then we can really attack with Turner/MKM/Willow at the other end!?

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:14:44:26

Nice one Trigger.
Who would have thought about dropping him?(only joking Grockle)

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:14:48:42

Trigger is my hero,
Trigger is my hero,
La la la la

Flintoff Floored by Tremendous Trigger.

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:14:49:10

... and remember, assuming this game follows a normal course, who is going to have to bat last...

LoL

Sixty Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:14:50:03

I just bet a pint with Lancashire fan in my office that we'd win this, and he was less than flattering when he saw that BoBo had come on to bowl.
Tee hee!(Sm63)

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:14:50:35

This guy Trego looks promising, BJ. Can you tell us something more about him?

LoL

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: 0117 (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:14:50:49

Payback time from PT and CK

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:14:53:05

I think brotherof will be feeling well vindicated at this moment. Good on Pete.

Craig seems to be performing very well too.

"Flintoff Fails" it is then.

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:14:55:30

I am sworn to silence about young Mr Trego LoL.
All I'll say about him is that in my opinion he is the best allrounder in the land by a Country mile.
If he played for one of the more fashionable Counties he'd already have represented England and have a public profile to match the likes of Flintoff and Pietersen.
Apart from that I'll keep my silence.

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:14:57:07

Treeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeegggggggggggooooooooooooooo!!!

The Championship bandwagon starts here.

Oust Law and we really will be in business!

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:15:07:12

Andy who? (Sm22)

Come on lads; keep it going!

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:15:07:30

Turner has banished the Aussie!!!!

Is this the new......

No, I'm not going to be foolish enough to ask....

.... yet.

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:15:10:20

Your discretion and restraints are much appreciated, BJ.

LoL

Sixty Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:15:10:35

Yep Pete and Mark are the pick of our bowlers at the moment so let's not let them gat away now and go into the second bit of this game at least on level pegging.

It may have been a good decision to bat first after all

Looking at Mark's figures makes it even more of a puzzle why they didn't let him have the new ball. But there you go. Who cares if it all comes right in the end.

One thing though BJ. Trigger's been at more fashionable counties but we've brought whatever is there out in him and if he puts it all together enough times then he'll make them notice him. The good thing this year is that he can do it in the FIRST DIVISION and get reported on.

(Sm72)

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:15:16:38

"go into the second bit of this game at least on level pegging."

I'm hoping for better, Grockle, but know what you mean.

Luke Sutton remains and we've had trouble with Chapple in the past.

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:15:16:47

You there, Tuffers?

I just had another look at the Guardian blog, and Mr. Wilson needs his attention drawing to Munday's 21 runs. Not bad for a "terrible" batsman against that attack!

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:15:34:17

Well, it will surprise none of us one iota, but I wonder if Duncan Fletcher and the wretched Agnew and whatever internal doubters he may have in the SCCC hierarchy have noticed that Ian has made considerably more runs then the bally-hooed Hodge, Law and Freddie.

Incidentally, I was annoyed to note that Ian was strangled down the leg-side, so Lancs may have got off lightly, as well..

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:15:46:22

Munday takes his first of 2008 !

Well done !

Grizzzly

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:15:46:51

Foot on the neck now boys!
Don't let 'em up for air.

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:15:47:16

LoL - the only thing I would say about Lancs batting last (despite the ball from Turner that kept low earlier) is that the forecast for Saturday is, I gather, really rather good.

Then again, if MKM can swiftly polish them off, maybe we won't need much of Saturday!?

Re: Lancs CC1 - First Half (hopefully)
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:24:15:47:40

Can you lot slow down a bit I’ve just got in from the dentist, there is so much to read.

When I was in the car sports report said there was a recovery after losing three quick wickets.

When I got indoors they were six down while typing this they are seven down, I can’t keep up with this!!

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