A star is bowled!
Floodlit Rosebowl
A star is bowled!
By Grockle
May 2 2008
A trip to the Rosebowl is one hell of an adventure at the best of times but with floodlights and no public transport home will we be smiling at the end either way? Andy Caddick isn't ready yet but the 14 player squad looks strong enough to give KP and his boys a run for the points.
A star is bowled!
May 2 2008
A trip to the Rosebowl is one hell of an adventure at the best of times but with floodlights and no public transport home will we be smiling at the end either way? Andy Caddick isn't ready yet but the 14 player squad looks strong enough to give KP and his boys a run for the points.
v Hampshire (FPT) @ The Rosebowl Friday 2 May 2008
Mascarenhas in India, no buses from the Rosebowl, no public parking because of waterlogged fields around the international cricket venue outside Southampton, no Caddick and Kevin Pietersen set to play. What else could be going on?
After talking about the difficulty of selection in the week, Brian Rose has managed to put together a 14 man squad for this game. In come the newbies from SA Zander de Bruyn and Alfonso Thomas they join;
Trescothick, Francis, Langer, Hildreth, Blackwell, Kieswetter, Durston, Trego, Phillips, Jones, Willoughby and Banks
No Munday so if it stays dry we may see Omari Banks for the first time - I think that might be doubtful. That may also be the same for Wes Durston and it would be no surprise if John Francis loses out to de Bruyn
So I'd expect the eleven to take the field to be;
Trescothick with Kieswetter, Langer, Hildreth, de Bruyn, Blackwell,Trego, Phillips, Jones, Thomas, Willoughby.
But that seems to give us a big tail and if that's the case then Durston may find his way back in at the expense of Jones? Will we gamble on the top 6 firing and go for a seam attack or add another batting spinner? 2:30 tomorrow will let us know the truth!!
If anyone is going to be there and wants to tell all the rest of us about it then send Grockles the text and we'll make you a star. After all, you're gong to have loads of time while trying to get to civilisation from the stadium anyway!!
The Game
Well a few surprises!! Justin Langer went down with a migraine just before the game and so we are led by Marcus with Zander de Bruyn playing along with John Francis. No place for Thomas yet and Durston did play, but more as a batsman than a bowler with Willoughby, Jones, Phillips and Trego offering the seam options, alongside the new boy from SA.
Wed woon the toss and decided to field. Again surprising because many believed that batting was the thing to do on a friendly pitch with late weather under lights a distinct possibility. Faith in our bowling capacity? Well it was something to understand the decision by anyway.
Lumb and Carberry opened for them again but this time it was Lumb who stood his ground as Carberry was first to go to Phillips
Blackie stops a Lumb boundary!!
Lumb worked with new man Crawley and put on 55 before he followed his partner at 92 to usher Kevin Pietersen to the crease. Interest from the photographers seems to have gone through the roof at this point.
55 and Out Mr Lumb
There's the good and the bad of our Kev of course.
A Pietersen 50!!
And big shots 
and big shots
and even the technical stuff occasionally!
And then there's the things we all like to see when he plays against us!!
KP nearly doesn't make it
and then he doesn't again as.....
Zander castles the great man!!
So we say goodbye to the great star after a 99 partnership with Crawley and the start of another with Ervine.
213 for 4 is pushed to 286 by the close thanks to another 50+ from the aforementioned and Benham.
The radio commentators thought this was a near to winning total. Then again they also thought we had SEVEN Kolpaks (must have been talking to Kentish Townie about the state of Somerset cricket!!)
No more photos I'm afraid. It seems they all popped off to the pub after Kevin had to leave the middle. So I have no pictorial record of the worry that developed after Ervine bowled the skipper with only 4 on the total. But Kieswetter and de Bruyn soon sorted that out and Ervine took some real hammer going for 88 off his 10. They put on 65 with the keeper making most of the running before he finally died at 46 c&b'd by Lamb.
Enter the Mighty Hildreth and the game was over and done!! James went off at one hell of a rate and 50 appeared off well over a run a ball. Zander continued to his first half ton and together they put on 159 before Zander went up the wicket for the first time and dropped one down the throat of Lumb. By then it was pretty much over. Bond had already retired and the Hawks were cobbling together a bowling attack on a batting wicket (and not doing a particularly good job of it). Pietersen looked rusty, Ervine has getting tap and only Lamb was doiing something.
Blackwell smacked 21 off 14 but got a bit carried away and went, caught on the boundary. Frank tried a reverse sweep before he was really in and the home side had a little 'frisson' of hope before Wes calmed things down and helped Hilda put this one away and complete the double over Hampshire.
Brilliant. Willoughby and Trego deserved a word for tight spells on an unfavourable wicket and the other seam bowlers shared the wickets while Blackie put in 7 for 38.
But this was the Hildreth show. 112 off 131 with 12 fours and 2 sixes. The majority of his runs came in the first 50 balls before he put the brakes on to make sure we won.
On to Taunton on Sunday and a date with the Welsh. You'll be amazed at how far the stand has gone since last time we were there.
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Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Grockles.com (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2008 23:43
Floodlit Rosebowl
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 06:49
I'd love to report, but daren't take my laptop on my bike! I'll try and do some note-taking and report on my return, assuming I find my way back!
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Tractor (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 08:07
Give a big shout to Radio Solent, Wurz; they love it.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 09:07
Quote:Tractor
Give a big shout to Radio Solent, Wurz; they love it.
I know some of the Radio Solent coomentary team, from my stewarding duties at Weymouth FC, so if I see them I'll pass on your regards!
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Shepton Paul (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 09:22
Grockle, you may wish to edit the typo about 'no public parking' above - or would that be somewhere for wurzel to park his bike?!
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 09:30
Mr Rose has already effectively said that the team batting second will be up against it.
I reckon we will hedge our bets and that De Bruyn will, therefore, supplement John Francis, as opposed to replacing him.
Team (predicted)
Banger
Craig
JL
Hildreth
Ian
De Bruyn
JF
Wes/Trego
Phillips
Jonah
Willow
The above team with Wes contains only four front-line bowlers. the final ten overs would have to be fiddled from Zander, Hilders and, mayb, Wes.
However, the Rose Bowl usually nips around a bit, so Zander may be capable, even without the help of Hilders and Wes.
More to the point, it's a long batting line-up in case we have to chase under the lights. And if we're bowling under the lights, that should be relatively easy, anyway.
The alternative team that we might see would simply have Trego instead of Wes. Still a fair length to the batting, though.
I'm not convinced that Thomas will automatically force his way in for this one. Don't think Banks will make it, either.
I reckon we will hedge our bets and that De Bruyn will, therefore, supplement John Francis, as opposed to replacing him.
Team (predicted)
Banger
Craig
JL
Hildreth
Ian
De Bruyn
JF
Wes/Trego
Phillips
Jonah
Willow
The above team with Wes contains only four front-line bowlers. the final ten overs would have to be fiddled from Zander, Hilders and, mayb, Wes.
However, the Rose Bowl usually nips around a bit, so Zander may be capable, even without the help of Hilders and Wes.
More to the point, it's a long batting line-up in case we have to chase under the lights. And if we're bowling under the lights, that should be relatively easy, anyway.
The alternative team that we might see would simply have Trego instead of Wes. Still a fair length to the batting, though.
I'm not convinced that Thomas will automatically force his way in for this one. Don't think Banks will make it, either.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 10:08
Are you still a Steward at Weymouth FC Wurzel?
I hear West Ham are planning a "friendly"down there.
Good luck.
I hear West Ham are planning a "friendly"down there.
Good luck.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Blub (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 10:52
I can't see Durston playing ahead of Trego; isn't the Rose bowl a bit seam-friendly?
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 11:03
Now there you are you see, I'd forgotten that Zander bowls a bit and coupled with Phillips, Thomas and Jones batting a bit you might be right AG.
I think that would be at the expense of Peter possibly. But I can't see them playing John as an extra batter unless they push Zander out of where they've said they'd like to play him. However John is an asset in the close field so who knows.
I think that would be at the expense of Peter possibly. But I can't see them playing John as an extra batter unless they push Zander out of where they've said they'd like to play him. However John is an asset in the close field so who knows.
Re: No public parking at the Rose Bowl
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2008 19:14
True.
Just for the bus!
Just for the bus!
Re: No public parking at the Rose Bowl
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2008 19:56
Shock horror at the Rose Bowl.
Hampshire have discovered that it actually rains sometimes during an English summer and locating your only carpark on thick grass in a massively sloping field can result in waterlogging.
I wonder if the ECB thought of that when awarding the aggressive Hampshire chairman Rod Bransgrove the Rose Bowl`s first Test match against Sri Lanka in 2011?
Hampshire have discovered that it actually rains sometimes during an English summer and locating your only carpark on thick grass in a massively sloping field can result in waterlogging.
I wonder if the ECB thought of that when awarding the aggressive Hampshire chairman Rod Bransgrove the Rose Bowl`s first Test match against Sri Lanka in 2011?
Re: No public parking at the Rose Bowl
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2008 20:20
They have Neil diamond at the Rose Bowl in June perhaps they will make enough money to tarmac the field. [www.rosebowlplc.com]
I wouldn't mind seeing him myself.
I wouldn't mind seeing him myself.
Re: No public parking at the Rose Bowl
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2008 20:35
Having read Teddington's excellent blog - it seems you won't be queing for the bus because there are no return buses - can that be right?
No place to park and no alternative park and ride scheme? How the hell can this place be classified as an international venue?
Without transport infrastructure for an out of town concrete bowl what use is the place?
No place to park and no alternative park and ride scheme? How the hell can this place be classified as an international venue?
Without transport infrastructure for an out of town concrete bowl what use is the place?
Re: No public parking at the Rose Bowl
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2008 20:41
I'm taking my cycle, in my van, then parking a mile or so away and cycling to the ground. I hope i can find my way back in the dark!
Re: No public parking at the Rose Bowl
Posted by: VictheFish (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2008 20:59
Recipe:
You take someone with a wad of cash (and a mouth to match) and mix with a sporting venue in need of rejuvenation.
Then you hope they have the good grace to disappear once they've had their glory building the new place and are content with a stand or whatever in gratitude, having given the place good leadership and a sound, secure infrastructure that’s financially and materially sustainable.
Or else, when they so ingratiate themselves into the fabric of the place that they treat it as their personal fiefdom you wonder how to get rid of them before the achievements that have made are outweighed by cringing embarrassment at the things they’ve saddled you with.
Cook for a few years and it ends in an embarrassing internal strife, with truths, rumours and secrets laid bare for all to see. A little like the saga with Messrs. (never a better term) Blair and Brown at the moment, without the wad of cash!
The Rose Bowel was a good concept, ill thought out and planned. Out of town shopping applied to sport without the mechanisms in place to support itself. A similar story to that of many football clubs too.
I wonder if the pleas and bullying it has taken to get international status are in an effort to bully the planners into pushing through precedent planning laws which will increase the access to the venue or whether it’s all just part of an ego building exercise.
He who shouts loudest often get’s his way.
Not so with Grockle I see …
VtF.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2008:05:01:21:10:59 by VictheFish.
You take someone with a wad of cash (and a mouth to match) and mix with a sporting venue in need of rejuvenation.
Then you hope they have the good grace to disappear once they've had their glory building the new place and are content with a stand or whatever in gratitude, having given the place good leadership and a sound, secure infrastructure that’s financially and materially sustainable.
Or else, when they so ingratiate themselves into the fabric of the place that they treat it as their personal fiefdom you wonder how to get rid of them before the achievements that have made are outweighed by cringing embarrassment at the things they’ve saddled you with.
Cook for a few years and it ends in an embarrassing internal strife, with truths, rumours and secrets laid bare for all to see. A little like the saga with Messrs. (never a better term) Blair and Brown at the moment, without the wad of cash!
The Rose Bowel was a good concept, ill thought out and planned. Out of town shopping applied to sport without the mechanisms in place to support itself. A similar story to that of many football clubs too.
I wonder if the pleas and bullying it has taken to get international status are in an effort to bully the planners into pushing through precedent planning laws which will increase the access to the venue or whether it’s all just part of an ego building exercise.
He who shouts loudest often get’s his way.
Not so with Grockle I see …
VtF.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2008:05:01:21:10:59 by VictheFish.
Re: No public parking at the Rose Bowl
Posted by: VictheFish (IP Logged)
Date: 01/05/2008 21:03
For some reason, every <return> and bit of punctuation in that last posting was ignored and replaced by a crosshair asking me to insert a clip.
Makes it rather harder to read than something by Joyce.
Sorry,
VtF.
Ah, better now.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2008:05:01:21:08:07 by VictheFish.
Makes it rather harder to read than something by Joyce.
Sorry,
VtF.
Ah, better now.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2008:05:01:21:08:07 by VictheFish.
Re: No public parking at the Rose Bowl
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 01:49
Can you take a cycle in Wurzel?I would hate for you to go to all that trouble then not allowed in with bike.
Re: No public parking at the Rose Bowl
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 03:02
Dark, wet & uninspring - the Rose Bowel strikes again.
Grizzzly
Grizzzly
Re: No public parking at the Rose Bowl
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 06:46
Quote:BristolRob
Can you take a cycle in Wurzel?I would hate for you to go to all that trouble then not allowed in with bike.
I'm sure I can find somwehere to put it.
Re: No public parking at the Rose Bowl
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 09:59
I have little doubt about that Wurzel.
Suggestions please?
Suggestions please?
Re: No public parking at the Rose Bowl
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 10:39
James, behave!!
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 11:11
Blub - the Rose Bowl is regarded as seamer friendly. But it's also regarded as slow. In the one-day stuff, that can sometimes help the slower bowlers. To be honest, I was thinking more of Wes being included mainly for his batting/fielding.
Mr Rose's opinion is that whoever bats first will be favourite, so he may be thinking of contingencies if we aren't fortunate enough to maintain our 100% record in the toss department.
Mr Rose's opinion is that whoever bats first will be favourite, so he may be thinking of contingencies if we aren't fortunate enough to maintain our 100% record in the toss department.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Kentish Townie (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 11:12
I would find it very hard to accept either Thomas or De Bruyn taking places in the team, especially at this stage in the season.
It would be an unjustified kick in the teeth to Francis, Duston, Trego or Jones if any of those players were to miss out.
I had hoped the club's management were listening to the widespread disappointment at those signings.
I'm just not sure I want to go and see a team with four South Africans in it, when there are Somerset players sitting in the pavilion who've done nothing wrong except be locally produced players.
It would be an unjustified kick in the teeth to Francis, Duston, Trego or Jones if any of those players were to miss out.
I had hoped the club's management were listening to the widespread disappointment at those signings.
I'm just not sure I want to go and see a team with four South Africans in it, when there are Somerset players sitting in the pavilion who've done nothing wrong except be locally produced players.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 12:39
You have NO idea what is happening during the training sessions KT or how the players have now been ranked according to ability with the additions to the squad.
John has had a couple of innings but nothing spectacular and isn't seen particularly as a one day player anyway
Wes may be 'kicked in the teeth' by the conditions as it is doubtful we'll play 2 spinners
Peter Trego and Steff Jones may be "kicking each other in the teeth" for a place anyway
You are assuming that players will be picked based on birthplace. No indication at all that that is the case. If they are picked on merit then no-one gets 'kicked in the teeth' the non players don't play because they aren't the best we can field in relation to the conditions.
There are THREE South Africans and they have done nothing wrong by your definition but be born in South Africa (everyone takes pay for playing the game so they are all employees of the club).
You didn't respond to the other thread so you probably haven't got the news yet but Craig Kieswetter has a British passport and no South African citizenship - sorry to burst that particular bubble for you.
Oh and Steffan and John weren't born locally either they must be kicking other local players in the teeth (awful lot of teeth lying about)
Yawn
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2008:05:02:12:44:47 by Grockle.
John has had a couple of innings but nothing spectacular and isn't seen particularly as a one day player anyway
Wes may be 'kicked in the teeth' by the conditions as it is doubtful we'll play 2 spinners
Peter Trego and Steff Jones may be "kicking each other in the teeth" for a place anyway
You are assuming that players will be picked based on birthplace. No indication at all that that is the case. If they are picked on merit then no-one gets 'kicked in the teeth' the non players don't play because they aren't the best we can field in relation to the conditions.
There are THREE South Africans and they have done nothing wrong by your definition but be born in South Africa (everyone takes pay for playing the game so they are all employees of the club).
You didn't respond to the other thread so you probably haven't got the news yet but Craig Kieswetter has a British passport and no South African citizenship - sorry to burst that particular bubble for you.
Oh and Steffan and John weren't born locally either they must be kicking other local players in the teeth (awful lot of teeth lying about)
Yawn
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2008:05:02:12:44:47 by Grockle.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 12:55
I agree Grockle,it's getting rather tiring.
We've been discussing this subject for a good while now and now is the time to stop grumbling and get behind whoever is picked.
Hope it stays dry,it's tipping it down here.
We've been discussing this subject for a good while now and now is the time to stop grumbling and get behind whoever is picked.
Hope it stays dry,it's tipping it down here.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Blub (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 13:00
KT, as your post implies that de Bruyn and Thomas would play because they are South African, I would hope that if they do it would be due to their perceived and comparitive value to the team, not due to any form of inverted racism.
"I'm just not sure I want to go and see a team with four South Africans in it, when there are Somerset players sitting in the pavilion who've done nothing wrong except be locally produced players."
"I'm just not sure I want to go and see a team with four South Africans in it, when there are Somerset players sitting in the pavilion who've done nothing wrong except be locally produced players."
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: BVI Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 13:02
KT - change the record please. It's nothing but the same thing over and over again.
We all know your opinion, which you are entitled to, it just gets tiresome to have to read the same thing every time I log in.
I recall that De Bruyn bowled in the test series against England last time we toured (one to Zander). I don't remember much about his fielding to be honest (by default, one to Frankie). Could just come down to perceived form - Frankie did a cracking 'finishing' job in the win (why is it all good finishers seem to be left handed? Fairbrother, Bevan, Klusener) with Blackie, so I would like to see him persevered with, but I imagine it will come down to conditions, given the bowling option.
Jonah did nothing wrong with the ball in the abandoned game, getting the wickets to match Willo's miserly stuff at the other end, so I would stick with him and not just jettison him because Thomas is in town.
No-one anywhere has said that these boys have some divine right to be selected due to their previous national honours - they will still have to earn their spots and our boys have made a strong start to the season without them.
Come on the lads!
BVI Grockle
We all know your opinion, which you are entitled to, it just gets tiresome to have to read the same thing every time I log in.
I recall that De Bruyn bowled in the test series against England last time we toured (one to Zander). I don't remember much about his fielding to be honest (by default, one to Frankie). Could just come down to perceived form - Frankie did a cracking 'finishing' job in the win (why is it all good finishers seem to be left handed? Fairbrother, Bevan, Klusener) with Blackie, so I would like to see him persevered with, but I imagine it will come down to conditions, given the bowling option.
Jonah did nothing wrong with the ball in the abandoned game, getting the wickets to match Willo's miserly stuff at the other end, so I would stick with him and not just jettison him because Thomas is in town.
No-one anywhere has said that these boys have some divine right to be selected due to their previous national honours - they will still have to earn their spots and our boys have made a strong start to the season without them.
Come on the lads!
BVI Grockle
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 13:17
The BBC have the team with no Langer.....
Trescothick, Kieswetter, De Bruyn, Hildreth, Blackwell, Trego, Durston, Francis, Phillips, Jones, Willoughby
Trescothick, Kieswetter, De Bruyn, Hildreth, Blackwell, Trego, Durston, Francis, Phillips, Jones, Willoughby
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 13:19
Quote:AGod
Mr Rose's opinion is that whoever bats first will be favourite
From Cricinfo: "Somerset won the toss and elected to field first "
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: BVI Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 13:28
Cricinfo is showing the team as 'incomplete' with only 10 players and no Langer
BVI Grockle
BVI Grockle
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 13:37
Marcus is captain - de Bruyn playing in place of Langer.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 13:46
I hope I am not treading on your toes Grockle but I couldn't get the radio com. on your link I got it here.[news.bbc.co.uk]
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 14:03
Well, bloke, maybe we are anticipating a rain-shortened contest?
Or maybe I misinterpreted what Mr Rose meant, though I think not.
He said "In day/night games, the toss is usually crucial."
Convention says that it's much harder to chase under the lights, so I assumed that is what he meant. Maybe Banger did not agree with him?
Or maybe I misinterpreted what Mr Rose meant, though I think not.
He said "In day/night games, the toss is usually crucial."
Convention says that it's much harder to chase under the lights, so I assumed that is what he meant. Maybe Banger did not agree with him?
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 14:04
I'm with what I think Mr Rose meant. I thinkw e should bat first.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 14:06
so.. do we know if there is anything wrong with JL?
Or do we think that he's been very fair minded and decided that because he showed no form in the last limited-overs game, that it should be he that drops out, as opposed to JF?
Or do we think that he's been very fair minded and decided that because he showed no form in the last limited-overs game, that it should be he that drops out, as opposed to JF?
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 14:11
To correct myself, Mr Rose's exact quote was that;
"As always in day/night games, the toss is likely to be significant."
I really don't think facing Shane Bond under the lights is a good plan. Nevertheless, we've held Hants to a slow start, so far, so that's good.
p.s. Is it REALLY too much to ask for the official side to put the actual XI up when the team is named?
"As always in day/night games, the toss is likely to be significant."
I really don't think facing Shane Bond under the lights is a good plan. Nevertheless, we've held Hants to a slow start, so far, so that's good.
p.s. Is it REALLY too much to ask for the official side to put the actual XI up when the team is named?
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 14:14
Quote:KT
I'm just not sure I want to go and see a team with four South Africans in it
Then don't!
Quote:BVIG
No-one anywhere has said that these boys have some divine right to be selected due to their previous national honours
Quite so, BVIG. In fact the message from Rose was precisely that they haven't, which was good enough for me. I said my piece about tyhe signing iof De Bruyn, but that deal is now done. We have to move on, allow the selectors to select what they believe is the best team available, and support whoever takes the field in our name.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 14:17
Spoke too soon, Lumb is cutting loose.
Oh well, at least he is in my fantasy team.. he looks like he's going to make a huge score.......
Oh well, at least he is in my fantasy team.. he looks like he's going to make a huge score.......
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 14:22
Thanks Mike - couldn't find a definite one last night so I sent people to radio Hampshire. Will update with yours.
Perish the thought that Justin has decided that he wants a local/international mix and has given both his established Somerset AND his new kolpak players the chance to show what they can do by making the space himself. Such selflessness for a paid "mercenary". he may have just left his "teeth kicking" boots at home by mistake of course
Perish the thought that Justin has decided that he wants a local/international mix and has given both his established Somerset AND his new kolpak players the chance to show what they can do by making the space himself. Such selflessness for a paid "mercenary". he may have just left his "teeth kicking" boots at home by mistake of course
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 14:25
Surely, he's kicked himself in the teeth, Grockle?
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 14:26
and maybe strained his groin or something in the process?
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 14:33
does anyone have any inkling as to why we'd be bowling Jonah all the way through, even though he seems to be getting real stick now?
Anyone that can get the commentary?
Maybe we're batting and it's Bond that is bowling all the way through before he breaks down?
Cricinfo has had the wrong side batting before!!??
Anyone that can get the commentary?
Maybe we're batting and it's Bond that is bowling all the way through before he breaks down?
Cricinfo has had the wrong side batting before!!??
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 14:35
ah, cricinfo has just corrected itself and Ben is bowling now.
Still, it looks like Ian is going to have to be at his absolute best, or we may end up having to chase a huge total under the lights.
Really not sure why we fielded first.
Still, it looks like Ian is going to have to be at his absolute best, or we may end up having to chase a huge total under the lights.
Really not sure why we fielded first.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 14:40
All I can say at this point is that we should all thank all that we hold dear for one of our South Africans!
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Shepton Paul (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 14:40
Presumably because Banger, with his experience, considerable cricket knowledge, and JL and BR in close attendance, with the pitch there in front of him, knowing Hants' line-up and the weather conditions visible, decided it was the right thing to do!
..as opposed to sitting in an office / living room / study many, many miles away...
Give the guys some credit, boys and girls!
..as opposed to sitting in an office / living room / study many, many miles away...
Give the guys some credit, boys and girls!
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 14:42
ah.. I see.. yes, good for my fantasy team, too.
Forgot all about Charl being a "SAFERR," in amongst all the @#$%& about the newly arrived South Africans.
Forgot all about Charl being a "SAFERR," in amongst all the @#$%& about the newly arrived South Africans.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 14:44
Maybe this is one of those situations like the infamous one involving Asif Iqbal, Kevin Jarvis and Sir Vivian Richards.
Jarvis bounced Viv, Viv hit him out of the ground. Asif said to Kevin 'Do not do that again."
But Kevin did not hear the not!
Maybe Brian said to Marcus;
"Do not field if we win the toss."
Jarvis bounced Viv, Viv hit him out of the ground. Asif said to Kevin 'Do not do that again."
But Kevin did not hear the not!
Maybe Brian said to Marcus;
"Do not field if we win the toss."
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 14:47
Carberry is out and we're down to the tail now. I know cos Tractor told me.
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Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 14:47
AG "do we have a breakthrough?" we have now.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 14:48
Yep, that Pietersen cannot bat worth a lick.
Wish we'd got Lumb out, though. Carberry was keeping things ticking over slowly!
Wish we'd got Lumb out, though. Carberry was keeping things ticking over slowly!
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 14:53
Well done, Ben.
He's definitely an up-grade for our one-day bowling attack, just as some of us anticipated he would be.
He's definitely an up-grade for our one-day bowling attack, just as some of us anticipated he would be.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 14:55
Nice of the powers at CricInfo to allow Willo an eleventh over (he's showing 10.1 as I write!). That should keep the rate down.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:05:02:14:56:52 by Frome Exile.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 14:57
Yes, quite, FE, I was just about to say the same!
11-4-33-0. Apparently.
Maybe that's why they're only showing 10 men?
We cut a deal with Hants where Willow would bowl 20 overs, but we'd only pick 10 men?
11-4-33-0. Apparently.
Maybe that's why they're only showing 10 men?
We cut a deal with Hants where Willow would bowl 20 overs, but we'd only pick 10 men?
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 14:58
Langer had Migraine according to Radio Solent
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 14:58
Quote:SP
Presumably because Banger, with his experience, considerable cricket knowledge, and JL and BR in close attendance, with the pitch there in front of him, knowing Hants' line-up and the weather conditions visible, decided it was the right thing to do!
Couldn't possibly be that, Shep.
It must be because he misheard his instructions!
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 15:01
You have to feel a little sympathy for the scorers, AG.
They can't be expected to tell the difference between so many South Africans all in one team!
![[:wor kid:]](/phorum-5.1.15/mods/smileys/images/13.gif "[:wor kid:]")
They can't be expected to tell the difference between so many South Africans all in one team!
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 15:01
That man Trego has done it again. He has got Lumb out in his first over.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 15:02
Don't tell BJ that Kevin James has described Trego as a trundler, a dibbly dobbler..., not looking for a hatful of wickets but just to keep things tight. Our favourite trundler has ruined things by getting Lumb out.
And now it's Pietersen...
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And now it's Pietersen...
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Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: BVI Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 15:04
Gone! Sorry for those with Lumb in their fantasy team... but bigger picture says that Phillips has another!
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 15:04
... and Cricinfo still has Willoughby and Phillips bowling
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Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 15:04
CricInfo credits Phillips! And has Willo as having completed 12 of his ten overs!
Hey ho!
Hey ho!
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Shepton Paul (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 15:04
Kevan James - takes a trundler to know a trundler!
Pots and kettles, anyone?
Pots and kettles, anyone?
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 15:06
Well, we'll see SP and FE but I really can't imagine that what Mr Rose meant by his comments about the toss was 'if you win it, you should put the other team in.'
I still suspect that the decision was either extremely ill-advised OR that it must have been taken because we were expecting significant rain-disruption*
* even if that were the case, the D/L system is not one in which it's automatically better to be chasing. Of course, under the old system batting second was at a huge advantage in the event of inclement weather.
I still suspect that the decision was either extremely ill-advised OR that it must have been taken because we were expecting significant rain-disruption*
* even if that were the case, the D/L system is not one in which it's automatically better to be chasing. Of course, under the old system batting second was at a huge advantage in the event of inclement weather.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 15:06
FE: do you want me to do your postings for you! I'm not at work today and presumably you're supposed to be.
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
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Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 15:12
ermm.. are we at least agreed that Ian has held the catch?
Lumb is in my fantasy team but the GREAT Ian Blackwell is my leader, so a catch for Ian would be even better news than usual!
Lumb is in my fantasy team but the GREAT Ian Blackwell is my leader, so a catch for Ian would be even better news than usual!
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Shepton Paul (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 15:12
I agree, AG, that Rose's comments (made yesterday or Wednesday, I guess) appeared to indicate that batting first would be preferable. All I'm saying is that Banger (and BR, I suspect) are actually there, have a fair bit of experience and probably know what they're doing. It doesn't look like it's working at the mo, but that doesn't mean it was the wrong decision.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 15:18
Thank you for that kind offer LoL.
I'm at work in body (although not for much longer), but the spirit has long been elsewhere!
I would be grateful though, if you could cover the next 30 minutes or so while I get myself home.
I'm at work in body (although not for much longer), but the spirit has long been elsewhere!
I would be grateful though, if you could cover the next 30 minutes or so while I get myself home.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 15:20
They keep saying Phillips got both wickets.
The BBC site show Trego having the second wicket.
They have corrected it now.
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The BBC site show Trego having the second wicket.
They have corrected it now.
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Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: BVI Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 15:20
All this worry about the toss. Look at the facts - they are going at under 4 an over, lots of bowlers getting overs under their belts.
If we can nick out KP then we're in a great position.
I know Bond is good, but I think our batting line up has taught us never to write them off, whatever the conditions.
Ye of little faith...!
If we can nick out KP then we're in a great position.
I know Bond is good, but I think our batting line up has taught us never to write them off, whatever the conditions.
Ye of little faith...!
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 15:22
No, true, SP.
And I don't normally go in for the whole 'we're not doing great so the decision must have been wrong thing."
For instance, some questioned batting first at Old Trafford as we 'appeared,' to struggle, but I believed that it was probably the right decision throughout (whether it actually was, we will never now know.)
I'm just trying to think what specific conditions may have prompted a re-think on what Mr Rose was previously implying?
One example could be if it's really overcast now, but meant to be clear later? However, I don't think that's the forecast.
Another could be if the pitch started really damp? But then won't it get dew and stuff later? Or are we too early in the year for that to happen?
And I don't normally go in for the whole 'we're not doing great so the decision must have been wrong thing."
For instance, some questioned batting first at Old Trafford as we 'appeared,' to struggle, but I believed that it was probably the right decision throughout (whether it actually was, we will never now know.)
I'm just trying to think what specific conditions may have prompted a re-think on what Mr Rose was previously implying?
One example could be if it's really overcast now, but meant to be clear later? However, I don't think that's the forecast.
Another could be if the pitch started really damp? But then won't it get dew and stuff later? Or are we too early in the year for that to happen?
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 15:24
perfectly acceptable figures from Zander, so far.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Shepton Paul (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 15:30
De Bruyn's figures not so good now - had boundary catch dropped, then KP hit him for 6 over long off.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 15:32
who dropped it? difficult chance? Was it KP that was dropped?
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 15:41
Phillips dropped Pietersen.
We've got them on the ropes now, unfortunately they may be the boundary ropes.
But I like BVIG's view of the world: we must be one of the best batting sides in the country.
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
We've got them on the ropes now, unfortunately they may be the boundary ropes.
But I like BVIG's view of the world: we must be one of the best batting sides in the country.
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 15:46
We could certainly do with the captain out there for the chase, though.
Maybe we can sneak him on to the field for Willow towards the end of the innings, and no-one will notice?
Maybe we can sneak him on to the field for Willow towards the end of the innings, and no-one will notice?
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 15:50
We'll do very well to keep them under 270 from here, unless KP is dimissed immediately....
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Shepton Paul (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 15:52
LoL, I think that Phillips actually dropped Crawley, not KP, though I may be mistaken...anyway, could do with getting a few quick wickets now!
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 15:54
If it was KP that got dropped, that's one of those moments where THAT thought flashes through the mind of every member of the fielding side.
Let's hope it was Crawley that got put down, for that very reason.
Let's hope it was Crawley that got put down, for that very reason.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Shepton Paul (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 15:58
Michael Brown has just alleged that Somerset have 7 Kolpak players on their books. Even allowing for the fact that we know he is mistaken, who can he possibly THINK the seven are?
de Bruyn, Thomas, Banks, Kieswetter, Willoughby, Caddick, Suppiah...?
de Bruyn, Thomas, Banks, Kieswetter, Willoughby, Caddick, Suppiah...?
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 15:59
SP: my apologies. Another senior moment struck, for I knew it was Crawley. Anyway Crawley's gone now and we've got them on the run. 215 all out.
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Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 16:00
Could he really be stupid enough to think that a man who has taken soemthing like 237 Test wickets for England would be a Kolpak?
Would he ever have heard of Suppiah?
Perhaps he thinks Keynsham is somewhre in the West Indies, or something?
What a moron.
Would he ever have heard of Suppiah?
Perhaps he thinks Keynsham is somewhre in the West Indies, or something?
What a moron.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 16:03
Am I right in thinking there are actually only three Kolpaks: Willoughby, De Bruyn and Thomas?
Michael Brown is clearly lining himself up for Agnew's job.
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Michael Brown is clearly lining himself up for Agnew's job.
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Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 16:04
All of our Kolpaks are South African but not all of our 'South Africans,' are Kolpaks.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: BVI Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 16:09
LOL - my view of the world is of course totally objective and unbiased(!).
So of course we are that good.
And Crawley's gone, and the wicket brings some
brief respite to the scoring - much needed.
Come on the boys!
BVI Grockle
So of course we are that good.
And Crawley's gone, and the wicket brings some
brief respite to the scoring - much needed.
Come on the boys!
BVI Grockle
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Shepton Paul (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 16:11
I'm sure he can't labour under the misapprehension that all South Africans (or souther Africans) are Kolpaks, playing as he does with Pietersen, Ervine, Pothas, Lumb, Lamb...
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 16:17
Maybe the truth is as prosaic as the fact that he read an article by Agnew before the start of play?
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 16:17
We've got their Kopak player out.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 16:23
KT - would you like to watch Zander bowl KP for SCCC, or would you really rather not!?
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 17:45
Dammit!
I've cursed Trescothick with my Fantasy league Captaincy!
Sorry folks......mea culpa.
I've cursed Trescothick with my Fantasy league Captaincy!
Sorry folks......mea culpa.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: BVI Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 17:52
Zander - let's hope you bat at the same run rate as you bowl...
BVI Grockle
BVI Grockle
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: fRed (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 18:21
It's a Zander meander so far, 15 off 33.
Cricket's the winner.
Cricket's the winner.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 18:25
Nice work there, fRed.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 19:24
The commentators are not too happy with Kevin Pietersen's bowling tonight which is looking a bit ragged and inconsistent.
Excellent inning by James Hildreth and great support by ZdB - he can play for us! Just gone past 50. Welcome to the "grey and jester" Zander
Excellent inning by James Hildreth and great support by ZdB - he can play for us! Just gone past 50. Welcome to the "grey and jester" Zander
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 19:29
Bond injured so they have to use somebody
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 19:33
They're talking Billy Taylor. Calf injury it seems
It's a real batting track by the looks of it and that says LOADS for the 10 overs bowled by CW!!
3 maidens 33 runs - you don't always have to take wickets to be significant in a game!!
Presently Somerset are 60 ahead of the Hampshire score at the same stage and at the start of the commentary they were talking about the 286 being a near to winning score... It surprises me because I would think we'd look at a score of 300 in a 50 over game as "gettable" most of the time.
They really are crowing about James H
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It's a real batting track by the looks of it and that says LOADS for the 10 overs bowled by CW!!
3 maidens 33 runs - you don't always have to take wickets to be significant in a game!!
Presently Somerset are 60 ahead of the Hampshire score at the same stage and at the start of the commentary they were talking about the 286 being a near to winning score... It surprises me because I would think we'd look at a score of 300 in a 50 over game as "gettable" most of the time.
They really are crowing about James H
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Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: BVI Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 19:37
Bond injured? Funny old game, whatever next?
BVI Grockle
BVI Grockle
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 19:40
I'm enjoy this!
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
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Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: BVI Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 19:47
LOL - quite literally - welcome to my world!
BVI Grockle
BVI Grockle
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 19:54
I'm not. Too much "kicking of teeth" from our kolpaks!! Is this going to be this season's KT 'runner'? Last year it was the pitch "killing cricket" and now it's ........
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 19:55
Apparently Bond was injured by a spectator looking for somewhere to park his bike.
Word of mouth has it that the Somerset fan looked a bit the worse for wear having got lost after parking his dormobile a mile or two from the ground and cycled to the ground to avoid the traffic congestion after the match.
At the moment Hampshire Police have no idea who the culprit is but he was heard to shout something about fine third man before running away with a younger lad,presumed to be his son.
Sad story this don't you think?
Word of mouth has it that the Somerset fan looked a bit the worse for wear having got lost after parking his dormobile a mile or two from the ground and cycled to the ground to avoid the traffic congestion after the match.
At the moment Hampshire Police have no idea who the culprit is but he was heard to shout something about fine third man before running away with a younger lad,presumed to be his son.
Sad story this don't you think?
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 19:58
He's probabley hiding in an executive box.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 19:58
ZdB has gone as he goes up the pitch and plonks it straight down the throat of a fielder 159 partnership. Great start from the mercenary!
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: BVI Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:01
Grockle faster than Cricinfo!
BVI Grockle
BVI Grockle
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:03
Listening to the radio BVI!! More accurate that cricinfo as well it seems!!
Now Ian is in seemingly seeing it like a football from ball one.
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Now Ian is in seemingly seeing it like a football from ball one.
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Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:04
Come on now, James, see it home!
There must be a good chance of there being a selector in attendance, what with KP playing?
There must be a good chance of there being a selector in attendance, what with KP playing?
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:04
I remember back in the bad old days of football in the 70's and groups of Chelsea fans refusing to clap any goals scored for their team by black players.
I hope the fans who don't seem too keen on our overseas players don't react in a similar manner.
Great knock Zindine de Zander,plenty more of those please.
I hope the fans who don't seem too keen on our overseas players don't react in a similar manner.
Great knock Zindine de Zander,plenty more of those please.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Tractor (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:08
"He's gonna make damned sure this ball goes for nothing ...", then Blackie blasts it for a six. Great stuff.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: BVI Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:09
Still in the office and can't get real player on my office computer, so am reliant on you fine people and the vaguaries of Cricinfo. Nervous, yet confident at the moment.
BVI Grockle
BVI Grockle
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: wurzelpotter (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:12
Good evening all. Great stuff so far tonight. Great commentry too!
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:12
Ian - semi-dropped but still there. And then caught next ball for 21. Calm down guys we don't need to win with lumps of overs left - we just need to win.
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Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: wurzelpotter (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:13
Not any more Grock!
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:14
251/4 - not quite there yet. But Hildreth is still there
LoL
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Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: BVI Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:15
Not good for the nerves. Take us home Hilders.
BVI Grockle
BVI Grockle
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:21
Well batted James.Now see us home.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: wurzelpotter (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:21
100 for James. Well done son. Now finish it off....
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:21
And a ton to the young guy!! In control from the first ball according to the radio dudes. Thankee Mister Hildreth
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Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: wurzelpotter (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:23
A good start to the weekend. Somerset win and Stoke Premoted! (bothe premature, but we're nearly there!)
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: wurzelpotter (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:26
I hope I didn't speak too soon....
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:26
Frank's gone reverse sweeping!! They've got the slips in for Wes and then they drop him...scary or what?
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Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:28
Durston and Hildreth to finish it - Kolpaks the lot of them
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Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: wurzelpotter (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:29
Calm down Wes. You can do it!
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: wurzelpotter (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:30
Is a Kolpac one who is not BORN in Somerset LoL?
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:30
james dropped at slip.Thank you.
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Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:34
Seems so in the eyes of some WP
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:34
... not born in Somerton
LoL
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Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:38
I am so glad Durston is playing, if given the chance I believe he could be as good as Hildreth.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: wurzelpotter (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:39
7 from 14. Should be fairly easy
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Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:41
He's always looked very stylish and relaxed whenever I've seen him.
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
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Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:42
Well played Lads.
A good nights entertainment.Has made me feel a lot better.
A good nights entertainment.Has made me feel a lot better.
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Posted by: wurzelpotter (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:43
Excellent stuff boys. I have one of those good feelings about this season!
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:43
Yayy Hilda takes us home with 110!!
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:43
The Emperor is THE Emperor. What a wonderful win
LoL
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Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:45
Amazing...........especially so considering we obviously should have batted first! 
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Posted by: wurzelpotter (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:45
Hilders for England....
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Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:46
Superb win,superb.
A shame Hildreth wasn't born within the County boundary but I'm sure we'll take it.
Fantastic performance lads,well done all.
A shame Hildreth wasn't born within the County boundary but I'm sure we'll take it.
Fantastic performance lads,well done all.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:48
What can you say I can't spell the word I am looking for.
Excellent.
Outstanding
Exceptional
first-rate
superb
tremendous
Well done
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Excellent.
Outstanding
Exceptional
first-rate
superb
tremendous
Well done
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:05:02:20:50:08 by Mike BOS.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:50
Now on your bike Wurzel and head for Taunton by Sunday
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
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Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:51
Hope the 25 "guest" loggers on the site along with the 7 regulars enjoyed the end of that one then!!
Superb from Hidreth, excellent start from Zander, great tight spell from Charl, good 'nearly' 50 from Craig and calm and collected by Wes at the end.
Very good second stuffing of Hampshire and on to Glamorgan!!
Superb from Hidreth, excellent start from Zander, great tight spell from Charl, good 'nearly' 50 from Craig and calm and collected by Wes at the end.
Very good second stuffing of Hampshire and on to Glamorgan!!
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Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:51
And Shane Bond, who didn`t bowl at all after the first day for Hampshire against Yorkshire last week, only completed five overs.
Will we see him at Taunton next Wednesday?
Will we see him at Taunton next Wednesday?
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Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:56
Not from the info on the radio. Such a great shame the guy is such a talent but just can't stay fit enough to play the game...it's why some counties won't look at him.
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Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 20:59
I think Mike and LoL are getting carried away.
Admittedly it was stupendous, magnificent and totally unmatchable, but don't go overboard about it.
Admittedly it was stupendous, magnificent and totally unmatchable, but don't go overboard about it.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: VictheFish (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 21:00
Great to hear of another win. Well played Somerset, for that is what TEAM they are, wherever they may have originated from.
VtF.
VtF.
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Posted by: Shepton Paul (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 21:04
Brilliant win, absolutely awesome effort from JH, CW, ZdB, CK and the rest. I had to go to attend to family stuff at 5.30, so haven't followed in detail - how I wish I'd heard the rest of the radio commentary from the ex-Hants players who were so ill-informed this afternoon.
AG, just how easy and dull a win would this have been if we'd batted first! ;-)
Onwards and upwards, lads...what a team we've got! Will Caddy and Justin get their places back? Our 47 Kolpaks will all be on the cider tonight - they deserve it.
AG, just how easy and dull a win would this have been if we'd batted first! ;-)
Onwards and upwards, lads...what a team we've got! Will Caddy and Justin get their places back? Our 47 Kolpaks will all be on the cider tonight - they deserve it.
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Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 21:06
And more headaches for the selectors - remember we're doing this without Langer and Caddick!! Thomas is yet to make a play and there are others on the leash!!
I've mailed Solent about their comment about seven kolpaks. We all seem to agree we probably have one too many but seven is just stupid!!
Gotta say that when you leave out one of the best number 3 batsmen in the world in order to make room in your side for a new kolpak player then there's the slightest hint of a possibility that he is excess to requirements but if he scores 50+ every time he's in that situation you won't find me saying anything against the man...just the decision.
I've mailed Solent about their comment about seven kolpaks. We all seem to agree we probably have one too many but seven is just stupid!!
Gotta say that when you leave out one of the best number 3 batsmen in the world in order to make room in your side for a new kolpak player then there's the slightest hint of a possibility that he is excess to requirements but if he scores 50+ every time he's in that situation you won't find me saying anything against the man...just the decision.
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Posted by: Kentish Townie (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 21:21
Jim I hope you'll retract your disgraceful football related comment. You may not agree with my views on team selection but to make that sort of analogy is beyond the pale.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 21:49
A win against Gloucester would do us a lot of good in the points table.
Somerset played 3 with 5 points
Gloucester played 2 with 3 points.
A win would put us 4 points ahead.
I Jumped the gun a bit we do not play Gloucester until the 11th
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Somerset played 3 with 5 points
Gloucester played 2 with 3 points.
A win would put us 4 points ahead.
I Jumped the gun a bit we do not play Gloucester until the 11th
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Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 22:10
Magnificent !!
Unfortunately, I missed the action - working.
Never mind - Mr Hildreth is king !
Grizzzly
Unfortunately, I missed the action - working.
Never mind - Mr Hildreth is king !
Grizzzly
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Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 22:16
I was logged on to Cricinfo from start to finish.Tremendous. De Bruyn arrived in style...tell me is he pronounced 2 syllables as in Bear ? Anyway a fine knock to go with Charls great bowling and we did it without Langer Caddick-and effectively-Marcus T. Well played JH. It made a great nervous evening-I can always forsee a collapse.
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Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 22:17
There's some phot action but it's all KP I'm afraid...it seems that is all they wanted to photograph!
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 22:38
My rermarks are nothing to do with you KT,I'm surprised a man of your intelligence thought they were.
I was simply stating what happened in Chelsea in the 1970's.
How on earth does that have anything to do with you?
I was simply stating what happened in Chelsea in the 1970's.
How on earth does that have anything to do with you?
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Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 22:42
Well, fellow Grockles, what a great day. A truly majestic innings from the Emperor and a performance full of character from our wonderful team. Two years ago we'd have caved in when Banger was out, but now we have men of steel.
The weather was wonderful, but chilly when the sun disappeared, with it went most of a fairly decent crowd. I wonder where they parked. I only saw one other cycle. Another advantage of cycling is that one can buy supper at M&S and get some exercise.
Plenty of Somerset fans there, a few of whom had far too much of whatever. A particularly embarassing fella from Bridgwater seemed intent on upsetting all around the ground. He stood on his own and slated Warnee, Southampton FC, Mascheranas, et al. I wonder if he makes it home in one piece!
Good to see Mr Gould and Will the exile and family, clearly having a great time and about 3 pints left with 1 over to go!
BJ, If West Ham come to Weymouth, I look forward to an enjoyable match.
The weather was wonderful, but chilly when the sun disappeared, with it went most of a fairly decent crowd. I wonder where they parked. I only saw one other cycle. Another advantage of cycling is that one can buy supper at M&S and get some exercise.
Plenty of Somerset fans there, a few of whom had far too much of whatever. A particularly embarassing fella from Bridgwater seemed intent on upsetting all around the ground. He stood on his own and slated Warnee, Southampton FC, Mascheranas, et al. I wonder if he makes it home in one piece!
Good to see Mr Gould and Will the exile and family, clearly having a great time and about 3 pints left with 1 over to go!
BJ, If West Ham come to Weymouth, I look forward to an enjoyable match.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 22:47
And so you should Wurzel,on current form you'd eat us.
Come on you Terracottas or whatever it is.
Glad you had a great night,what a superb result.
Come on you Terracottas or whatever it is.
Glad you had a great night,what a superb result.
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Posted by: fRed (IP Logged)
Date: 02/05/2008 23:17
To win this under lights is amazing! Wow 
Cricket's the winner.
Cricket's the winner.
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Posted by: Congar (IP Logged)
Date: 03/05/2008 04:01
Brilliant win, I only caught the last few overs "live" on radio. I don't understand why. now that I am retired I seem to have less time to sit in a room listening to cricket all afternoon.
With 20/20 hindsight, could MT's decision to field have been inspired by the fact that Hants were expecting to put us in/field whatever the outcome of the toss? An Aussie thing to put your opponents off balance from the start.
Some difficult team selection problems coming up, but Wes never seems to let us down so I fear that it is JF's place that is in jeopardy when the Captain returns.
With 20/20 hindsight, could MT's decision to field have been inspired by the fact that Hants were expecting to put us in/field whatever the outcome of the toss? An Aussie thing to put your opponents off balance from the start.
Some difficult team selection problems coming up, but Wes never seems to let us down so I fear that it is JF's place that is in jeopardy when the Captain returns.
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Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 03/05/2008 06:42
Quote:geordie moonraker
De Bruyn arrived in style...tell me is he pronounced 2 syllables as in Bear ?
I have a recollection GM (although it could be a senior moment!) that when he played against England some years back, the local commentators suggested it should be pronounced "de Brain".
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Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 03/05/2008 07:15
Bishop Odo of Cluny confirms that you are not having a senior moment, FE. "de Brain" it is, apparently, although that may be a close approximation for the linguistically-challenged English.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 03/05/2008 08:04
Analysing James Hildreth`s match-wining innings in more detail this morning, it emerges even more impressive and mature than the mere statistics suggest.
He kept changing his role - never easy once you are in a groove in a limited-over match.
When he arrived at the wicket, de Bruyn was settling in but not accelerating - so Hildy immediately attacked, scoring at one time at a 155.50 rate during their vital partnership.
Then when his partner was out, he completely changed his approach, becoming the anchor man to first Blackie and then Wes,dropping his own scoring rate while the fireworks came from the other end.
When the winning hit came, his scoring rate had declined to around the run-a-ball mark - but it was just what was needed.
As for de Bruyn, who thinks that his bowling of Pietersen round his leg, just as the batsman was getting ready to launch into the final overs, kept Hampshire below 320 - and was as important as his own 79 runs?
He kept changing his role - never easy once you are in a groove in a limited-over match.
When he arrived at the wicket, de Bruyn was settling in but not accelerating - so Hildy immediately attacked, scoring at one time at a 155.50 rate during their vital partnership.
Then when his partner was out, he completely changed his approach, becoming the anchor man to first Blackie and then Wes,dropping his own scoring rate while the fireworks came from the other end.
When the winning hit came, his scoring rate had declined to around the run-a-ball mark - but it was just what was needed.
As for de Bruyn, who thinks that his bowling of Pietersen round his leg, just as the batsman was getting ready to launch into the final overs, kept Hampshire below 320 - and was as important as his own 79 runs?
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 03/05/2008 10:42
I'm surprised that BJ hasn't already commented on the contribution of that "dibbly-dobbler trundler" Trego to yesterday's win. He took one vital wicket (Lumb) and his economy rate was second only to that of Willoughby.
I wonder whether K D James took note of that after his highly dismissive remarks.
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
I wonder whether K D James took note of that after his highly dismissive remarks.
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 03/05/2008 13:31
Hello,hello hello.
Need I say any more about Trigger LoL?
The man is a gem,an allrounder of almighty ability.
Dibbly -dobbler trundler?
I'm sure if the Hampshire fans take a look at the scorecards of the last two games they'll realise who the dibbly dobblers are.
It sure aint us that's for sure.
Need I say any more about Trigger LoL?
The man is a gem,an allrounder of almighty ability.
Dibbly -dobbler trundler?
I'm sure if the Hampshire fans take a look at the scorecards of the last two games they'll realise who the dibbly dobblers are.
It sure aint us that's for sure.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: BVI Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 03/05/2008 15:18
I missed the end of the game as I had to take BVI Grocklette to the docs for some jabs, but what a magnificent win sheperded by the obscenely talented (and fast maturing) Mr Hilreth. I only hope that we get to savour a few more innings' like that before the inevitable call-up occurs.
Also, Messrs CW, PT, ZdB, CK and WD deserve honourable mentions. Willo has been nothing short of awesome in the last two OD games. Funny how press reports involving our teams all seem to focus on the more newsworthy players in the opposition... I have a feeling that if we keep performing as we are this season that trend may change.
Wonderful wonderful wonderful. And LOL - hopefully I will see you again soon in my world where we are the best batting side in the country!
BVI Grockle
Also, Messrs CW, PT, ZdB, CK and WD deserve honourable mentions. Willo has been nothing short of awesome in the last two OD games. Funny how press reports involving our teams all seem to focus on the more newsworthy players in the opposition... I have a feeling that if we keep performing as we are this season that trend may change.
Wonderful wonderful wonderful. And LOL - hopefully I will see you again soon in my world where we are the best batting side in the country!
BVI Grockle
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Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 03/05/2008 15:30
I went onto Empics last night and this morning to pick up photos. It made no difference whether I typed in Hampshire or Somerset all I could get was photos of "Hampshire Hawks' Kevin Pietersen".
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 03/05/2008 15:58
Now you've all had time to reflect on events I ask those who were there this question.
Just how good was the innings by young James last night?
It sounds an incredibly mature,masterful performance.
Does it look like he has progressed from last season?
Does he look ready to step up to the next level?
Was this a defining moment in his career because listening to it and reading about it it most certainly seems like it.
Just how good was the innings by young James last night?
It sounds an incredibly mature,masterful performance.
Does it look like he has progressed from last season?
Does he look ready to step up to the next level?
Was this a defining moment in his career because listening to it and reading about it it most certainly seems like it.
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Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 03/05/2008 16:35
An excellent innings, showing great maturity. We appear to have an immensely strong batting line-up. Even Marcus could soon be looking over his shoulder.
Marcus appears to have been eating a few bangers this winter.
Marcus appears to have been eating a few bangers this winter.
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Posted by: AGod2 (IP Logged)
Date: 05/05/2008 19:27
Great effort in the end. And, with hindsight (including hindsight on yesterday's game at the same venue,) it was probably the case that Marcus fielded because it seemed such a good track that we could probably chase down almost anything and/or it's not really the sort of track you want to be trying to defend on.
That said, it sounds like it got a bit hairy near the end, with Hants dropping catches.
And, as ever on what seemed to be a batting wicket, I was most impressed with what Charl did under the circumstances. Had they got off to any kind of a start against Charl, they would probably have topped 300.
That said, it sounds like it got a bit hairy near the end, with Hants dropping catches.
And, as ever on what seemed to be a batting wicket, I was most impressed with what Charl did under the circumstances. Had they got off to any kind of a start against Charl, they would probably have topped 300.
Re: Floodlit Rosebowl
Posted by: BVI Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 05/05/2008 19:35
Same could be said for every OD bowling performance so far this season by Willo?
10-0-42-1
9-5-14-2
10-3-33-0
10-2-27-1
Economy rate of under 3 an over - exceptional.
BVI Grockle
10-0-42-1
9-5-14-2
10-3-33-0
10-2-27-1
Economy rate of under 3 an over - exceptional.
BVI Grockle
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