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There'll be better days
By Grockle May 17 2008
Sussex are holding out for the draw on the last day of this CC1 game. Another fixture badly affected by weather which hasn't destroyed the game but has made a result a really diffcult outcome to forsee. Despite an the early filip of an excellent batting performance from the home side attached to a surperb century from Hildreth, this game may peter into a draw unless the rain holds off.

v Sussex (CC1) @ Taunton Wednesday 14 May 2008

Scorecard

The weather plays another part in Somerset's attempts to make a play for a significant impact on their return to the County Championship big league.  After being foiled in a competitive game at Old Trafford and losing out to the elements in their game against Hampshire at home, they are once more facing the need to bowl a side out before the heaven's open and put a stop to festivities!

Being put in by Sussex, we have to assume because the visitors hoped for the type of assistance Hampshire and especially their seamer Tomlinson found from an early damp Taunton wicket, Somerset amassed a huge 557 for 8 declared.  James Hildreth once more made us all wonder about the honours this young man may bring to the county with a brilliant 158 - the cornerstone. 

Hilda 4  Hilda 6 Hilda runs

Despite being run out for 99 in a bizarre fashion,

Neddy run out 99

Neil Edward's enforced absence because of family issues seems to have done him no cricketing harm and it was good to see him back in the big scores.  Marcus Trescothick weighed in with 76 along with middle size scores from the captain (44), de Bruyn (62) and Trego (41).

Hilda ton Big Ton for JH

It was a big ask in between the rain showers but no-one expected much of a game with a very poor forecast for the second half of the game.  It proved to be patchy but there was more play than expected and Somerset made the most of their time on the field.

Removing Nash before there was a run on the board was a good start and though Yardy and Hopkinson looked more stable the bowlers stayed on task. A brace of wickets to Ben Phillips around the 100 mark, especially that of the very dangerous Goodwin for 0, brought some hope. In conjunction with Jones the attack took out 2 more middle order batsmen between 100 and 120; Hopkinson (112 Jones)and Prior (118 Phillips).

Although Adams, Wright and Martin-Jenkins tried to hold the seams together, the Somerset seamers kept finding gaps and the weather kept upsetting the rhythm.  Willoughby removed Wright and Trego capped off a good allround first innings performance by wrapping up 3 wickets of the tail.

RMJ out

No Heroics from Martin-Jenkins this time around

Lewry 2 

Lewry went for one but nearly went for less!! 

203 all out and following on but we'd lost over a day to the conditions and the forecast for the remaining 4 sessions was gloomy even if it stayed dry.

Day 4

The morning stayed dry although very overcast with little wind to move the cloud on and the threat of rain almost all the way through play.  Sussex started on 36 for 1.  Andy Caddick was seen bowling off a few paces just before hostilities commenced (he returned at lunch and gradually moved the length of the run up back but he isn't exactly 'steaming in' yet.

Yardy is being watched as an opener, although a number of people around the place were asking how he ever gets runs!!  His stance is extraordinary.  However he is still there and he all but opened as Nash faced 3 balls less than his first innings total of 4 before being caught in front off Willoughby again without a run on the board.

Yardy

Yardy holds Somerset up before finally going for 78

The second innings almost followed the first entirely from there as runs were picked up where there were no risks and bowlers bent their backs for an early breakthrough.  When it did come it was at the same score as in the first innings 100. But ominously this time it was Hopkinson who went as Yardy passed 50.  Goodwin did not go early again (can't expect it twice in the same game from this man) and at lunch with 129 up for 2 the Sharks were not in too much trouble.  Other than a few Blackwell balls that seemed to confuse Yardy in particular, no bowler looks the cert for a wicket.  At 2:00 with 56 overs of the game to go it is dry but not bright and the draw is the most likely end product of this encounter.

Progress may be slow but it is made when Yardy's resistance is finally ended by Steffan Jones at one end and Marcus Trescothick at second slip.  155 for 3 brings the partnership to the wicket Somerset have to break quickly.  Murray Goodwin and Chris Adams.  But Goodwin goes to 50 off 99 balls (but with only 4 fours) and seems quite willing to accelerate the scoring rather than just plonk the ball around.  Accordingly in the 66th over sees the side from the south coast pass 200 off the bowling of Zander from the River and the bat of the said Mr Goodwin. 

And so to Tea with no more wickets and very few chances of one - a couple of slashes into fielderless parts of the ground and not a lot else.  By the break Sussex are 245 for 3 with Goodwin heading for a century and Adams nearly halfway there.  Ian Blackwell starts the last attempt at the Old Pavilion partnering Zander de Bruyn bowling from the River end but most of the crowd have given up the ghost and these final 30 overs are being played to about 300 spectators.

Ben Phillips takes the new ball in the 81st over at 258 to try and get rid of one of these two.  Goodwin must be under pressure needing 2 for his century but a misfield takes that pressure off as we gift him a second and he goes to the three figure mark off 169 balls with 10 boundaries.  One of the characteristics of this season in comparison with recent ones is that the outfiled is no longer lightening fast.  It seems that this is because the captain has asked for the grass to be kept longer than usual in order to protect the ball.  The spectator side of the ground has a huge boundary anyway but few balls are reaching it.  A final throw of the dice by Langer is to throw the ball to Charl for a last hurrah from the River.  Few people expect anything to happen and this game will fizzle out about 5:00 as Hampshire did last week in totally different conditions.

The problem at the moment is that we do not have enough variation without the change of pace of Turner and the extra bounce produced by Caddick.  Once good players are in we cannot surprise them enough unless the ball moves and the moment the swing has gone we need other skills that are presently not in the Somerset arsenal and won't be until the squad is fully fit again.

Inspired umpiring! Willey offers the light, everyone accepts it and at 4:45 the whole thing is finished, handshakes all around and 12 points to 7.  Could have been better, could have beed worse.

Tomorrow at 12 noon then - Worcestershire and some sun of heaven's sake!!

 

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Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:04:46:13

Right - will soon be bedtime here in Grizzzlyland.

So, in the knowledge that we take on Sussex tomorrow & will be half way through an innings by the time I wake up & log on, could you chaps just organise a reasonable scorecard when I do.

Waking up to 23-6 last time was not a nice breakfast experience !

Come on Zummmerset !!

Grizzzly

Grizzzly

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: Congar (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:05:23:27

G, I am in almost the same position. I shall log on tomorrow around lunchtime when I expect 90+ for no wicket or Sussex 23-6.

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:09:35:48

I don't think we'll be starting with a damp wicket again!

I predict a lunch-time score of 103/2, irrespective of which side is batting.

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:09:48:30

103/2 if Somerset are batting - using the English modality
103/2 if Sussex are batting - using the Australian modality

LoL

Sixty Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:10:32:56

Any team thoughts folks?

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:10:38:46

Have just looked at the nearest available forecast from the weather service that I use - in this case, it's for Exeter - and it cites the chances of rain as 60%, 30% and 50%, respectively for the next three days. Saturday is supposed to be dry.

If the forecast that Messrs Langer and Rose have is anything like that one, I'd suggest we might field if we win the toss, purely in the hope of a contrived finish on the last day. Of course, that would also assume that we have faith in the weather forecast.

If it's true that Munday is playing the second XI game then, with that info combined with a dodgy forecast, then I'd have thought that Jonah would replace MKM in the team. And Jonah has been bowling well in the short-stuff so it will be interesting to see what he will do, if picked.

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:11:01:41

Sussex won it and will field.
The only change is indeed Steffan in for Michael.

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:11:15:57

Live commentary can be be found linked on BBC website

Now living in Saltford

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:11:23:32

One overseas players and two Kolpaks in the SCCC team, Agnew and Hants commentators please note.

LoL

Sixty Seasons a Somerset Supporter



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Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:11:30:39

With this line up we bat down to number 10! Bet we don't need to!

Nice and sunny in TA1 at the moment but, as AG says, the prospect of rain tomorrow and unsettled on Fri/Sat so could be a frustrating few days.

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:11:45:20

Indeed we do, SJB.
First Class hundreds from everyone but the two C's; and it won't be long before Craig sorts that out.
This team has 166 f/c tons between them. And Langer has 82 of them. I wonder whether getting into the 90's this season might be another persuasive reason for him to come back and have another dart next year?!?!?!?!

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:11:49:11

Ramprakash only needs 83 for his 100th and Lancashire are crumbling. Not a bad day so far...

LoL

Sixty Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:12:00:06

No surprise that Lancs are crumbling (if they still are.)

As for JL, FE, if there's one man who I do not think would come back for the sake of personal achievment in terms of numbers and averages, I think it's him.

Indeed, I believe JL has said that he quit playing for WA because he did not have the motivation to simply try and pile up big scores. Rather, he said, he wanted to achieve something bigger for a team - i.e winning the title here.

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:12:03:08

And Gareth Andrew and Simon Jones have the Gloucesters in a spot of bother, too!

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:12:03:29

Damn. I've gone and got Ramprakash out and Lancs haven't lost another wicket since my posting.

I'm hoping to watch some of the Surrey match at Whitgift School and I don't mind if the maestro chooses a day of my attendance to do the needful (as long as all his team-mates fail to reach double figures).

LoL

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Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:12:07:42

You could well be right about JL, AG.

I am gratified that amongst my transfers this morning were the additions of Simon Jones and the still point amongst the Lancs wreckage, Stuart Law.

Disappointed though, that I took a punt on retaining Kabir Ali and he didn't pass muster!

Hey ho! Swings and roundabouts!

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: everhopefull (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:12:12:07

Simon Jones has started well today for Worcester 2 for 21 after six over.

Sorry did not see earlier postings.



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Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:12:15:44

FE - are you thinking (yet) of any 20:20 modifications to your team, or have your alterations today already taken account of that?

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:12:19:00

I'm trying to be frugal with transfers, and may make no further changes until the T20 "window". There are one or two in my team who are unlikely to feature; although zero points from non-participation might constitute comparative success!

I'm going to try and stick to the GFL thread for these discussions though!



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Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:12:25:02

Re: your remark about Craig and his imminent ton, FE;

It has occurred to me that the reason that Craig is currently opening in the short-stuff might just be partly because somebody whose opinion is respected within the club – Mr Rose, Mr Langer, maybe even Mr Cook (?) – has suggested that Craig’s technical game is good enough for him to become a long-term opener for SCCC in “proper,” cricket. And facing Steve Kirby – who bowled well with the new-ball – I didn’t see anything obvious which would suggest that he can’t become an orthodox opening batsman.

Of course, if it is someone’s intention to make Craig into an opening batsman, you could say ‘wouldn’t they pick him in that role in the first-class stuff.’ However, there’s no sensible case that could possibly be made for dropping Neil Edwards from the first-class team at the moment so I guess that would be my answer to that.

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:12:25:30

Quote:
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Lancs haven't lost another wicket since my posting

It would appear, LoL, that their destroyer-in-chief, Pattinson, has limped off unable to complete his 9th over.

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:12:42:36

It's nice to hear the building work on commentary.I thought machinery was going to be silenced playing hours.

Now living in Saltford

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: Blub (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:12:49:42

Re Craig as an opener, I suspect that he wouldn't be viewed as a one day opener and wicketkeeper. I suspect that it is more his ability to hit over the top against the new ball within the field restrictions.

Does anyone notice how often he gets out after a break (lunch, tea, overnight). I noticed this last season, and the same happened against Hants.

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:14:02:51

Just at this moment Edwards and Trescothick have identical career averages of 37.74. It's surprising that Trescothick's is so low and relatively late for him to improve it dramatically, whereas for Edwards it has to be onwards and upwards.

LoL

Sixty Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:14:06:10

I was surprised that Edwards is still only 25, I read the other day, he seems to have been around for ages.

I'm not surprised about Banger's average because he had one great year followed by several years of struggle before being plucked out of SCCC and into the England team by DF. Test cricket then gradually improved his overall average, but he was coming up from a mark of about 31 or something like that, I think.

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: Shepton Paul (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:14:07:17

...and Tres' average in county cricket will be much lower than Neil's. Marcus' Test record is very good, against some seriously good attacks - which proves little except that MT is a class, home-grown cricketer, Neil may become one and stats can hide all sorts of things!

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:14:10:40

I think it shows that Marcus is a better player of even top-quality spin and short-pitched quick stuff then he is of county trundlers on pitches that nip around a bit (I suspect it's the feet thing that make it so.)

It's also why I wonder if we won't see Banger batting in the middle-order in a few years time - because he is as good a player of spin as you will find, but not necessarily the best at dealing with dibbly-dobblies swinging and seaming the new ball around in helpful conditions.

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:14:16:49

well, we really should get a decent batting-points haul from here!

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: BVI Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:14:17:24

He's done pretty well since he returned from test cricket to be fair... I think the confidence gained from years playing at the highest level has been invaluable, regardless of technical limitations against your honest county dibbly dobblers!

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Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:14:30:09

Yes, his record since coming back is much better than his record between that brilliant first season and the time when he went away to England. His record in first-class cricket is also much better since he gave up England than was his record for SCCC whilst he was a current England player (I mean since the start of last season.)

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:14:31:59

Sorry guys, I think it was me reading your posts about Trescothick that got him out.

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:14:42:14

... definitely your fault, Bloke. Where's BJ when you want someone to blame? Probably watching the ggs.

LoL

Sixty Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: BVI Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:14:42:42

Hilders in at 3 - I wonder if JL was on the bog?

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Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:14:43:20

Quote:
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..........and Lancashire are crumbling. Not a bad day so far...

And Mahmood opens his first over with two wides!

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:14:45:07

surprise, surprise, two wides from Mahmood!

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:14:45:25

No, BVIG, he was down as No 3 on sheet. Perhaps that is his eventual berth.

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:14:46:01

No doubt, Notts would not have stood a chance if Lancs had played to their potential!

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:14:50:17

Let's hope JL does not have a migraine as he had the other week.

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:15:13:22

I don't believe it, didn't Neil also get run out for 98 or something last season?

Maddening!

Great to see him in good form, though.

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:15:14:40

Run out 99.
That is desperate.
Poor lad must be devastated.

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:15:15:41

That's desperate for the lad. But very well played Neil!

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:15:19:51

Tremendous effort Neil.

A shame re 99 - wonder whose call it was.

Now, we must press on & get 450+ please skipper.

Grizzzly

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:15:34:30

Could even have been no-ones.

I remember Banger once being run out in successive matches. On both occasions, this was due to deflected drives from Shane Lee. I believe that Banger was in the 80s or 90s both times, too!!

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: BVI Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:15:50:10

It's a real shame for Neil, but if you'd offered him 99 or 29 at the start of the day... etc etc cliche cliche.

Good to see some form from the boys against the champions - they put us in which is another good indicator for how we've played.

Kick on now and give ourselves a chance.

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Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: BVI Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:15:58:57

Batted Hilders.

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Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: tufnell parka (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:16:25:43

according to the guardian county blog neil edwards was run out by chris adams with an underarm throw from first slip. the bowler was ollie rayner and the ball spun away from the bat, avoided matt prior, and ended up at slip where adams pounced.
shocker for neil but very well batted lad.
nice to see hildreth and langer not give a chink of light to the sussex boys.
long way to go but hopefully we are still batting at lunch tomorrow (weather permitting) - that would mean we would be in control of the match

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:16:31:55

Hildreth dropped twice according to radio.

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: tufnell parka (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:16:39:12

not cricket but....

Born on This Day :

Eric Morecambe
Bob Woolmer
Bobby Darin
George Lucas
Che Guevara
Me

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:16:51:15

Happy Birthday TP.

May your powers of influence on SCCC's current match continue unabated !

Grizzzly

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:16:54:55

well, we're going to get more than 1 batting bonus point out of this one, thank god.

[failure to get batting points is the prime reason we're in a poor spot in the table, compared to other teams that also haven't won yet]

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:16:56:33

Langer's out.

Cummon the Emperor.

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:17:22:13

Happy birthday TP,you left out top National hunt jockey Ruby Walsh from your list.

Great effort by the lads today,full batting points is always nice.
Young James is showing why he is one of the finest young batsmen in the land.
Great stuff.

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:17:24:01

Hildreth run out for 99 too!!!













[only joking]

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:17:25:11

sounds like the CC batting form is back to where it was last year as opposed to where it was vs Mr Tomlinson.

The next question is 'can we take 20 wickets sans Caddy?'

We did it vs Notts last season, but it was MKM who took most of them and he isn't playing, either.

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:17:25:27

The Emperor is 101 not out!! Brilliant stuff.

And another batting bonus point.

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:17:25:54

Happy Birthday Tuffers!

Any chance you'll be having a sherbert this evening?



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Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: BVI Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:17:27:53

All hail the Emperor!

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Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:17:28:30

Our men at Taunton have given you the best possible present. Have a good one.

LoL

Sixty Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:17:31:01

I guess I should be magnanimous enough to acknowledge that Zander is doing excatly what Rose said he'd secured him to do - adding some solidity against the second new ball.

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: Westcountry Wolf (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:17:31:51

400 in the day?

Yes please!!

Who are Sussex?

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:17:36:27

Many happy returns TP

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:18:19:06

Disaster.
We didn't get 400 in the first day.
Great stuff lads,brilliant effort.

Re: Sussex - now come on chaps !
Posted by: BVI Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:14:18:47:27

Cracking performance from the boys.

BVI Grockle