Decisions Decisions
Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Decisions Decisions
By Grockle May 28 2008
The real implications of having more than eleven players on form come home to roost on Friday at Whitgift and the hero of the last game may lose out because of it! How did that happen? Well Caddick comes back, Turner is firing and Alfonso put in a great second team performance...oh and Trigger is batting like a dream. God knows what happens if it dries out and Munday becomes an option.
Decisions Decisions
The real implications of having more than eleven players on form come home to roost on Friday at Whitgift and the hero of the last game may lose out because of it! How did that happen? Well Caddick comes back, Turner is firing and Alfonso put in a great second team performance...oh and Trigger is batting like a dream. God knows what happens if it dries out and Munday becomes an option.
v Surrey CC1 @ Whitgift School Friday 30 May 2008
So who the hell will play?
We can expect to see
Marcus Trescothick and Neil Edwards and Justin Langer and James Hildreth and Ian Blackwell
Number 6? Well Craig Kieswetter will play at 7. I'd put Peter Trego in at 6 and drop de Bruyn simply to make space. If he plays the options in the bowling don't change but the open spaces decrease by one.
I'd expect Charl Willoughby at number 11 - we can't even consider dropping him.
8? 9? 10? Perm from Andrew Caddick (surely he'll play if he's fit to but should it be that certain unless he is back to old ways?), Mark Turner (if fit), Ben Phillips(can we leave him out?) Should he be a straight rival for Steffan Jones? Will Alfonso be part of the equation? And what of Munday if the weather changes?
I'd go for Turner, Caddick and Jones but I'm not sure they'll be that radical. It will probably be de Bruyn, Caddick and Phillips.
What a choice.....
Friday
So we now know the position. We open this game with
Trescothick, Edwards, Langer, Hildreth, Blackwell, de Bruyn, Kieswetter, Jones, Thomas, Phillips, Willolughby
No Caddick, no Turner, no Trego and the weather precludes Mike Munday. Not really the problem we expected and worrying that the players we expected to increase our arsenal's capability are still unavailable. Peter Trego's absence is a second worry as the man was in such good allround form but it provides another chance for Jones to become indispensable.
Presently Surrey are in, put there by Justin who must have seen something in the pitch. We got Spriegal early but then Ramps helped Newman put some runs up. However, Willoughby and Phillips got amongst the big guns around the 100 mark and we saw the back of Ramps, Butcher and Afzaal with Newman following at 140 thanks to Alfonso's first Championship wicket (I think). Presently we are beig held up by Benning who has pushed them past 200 and they stand at 203/5 at Tea time-ish
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Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:28:20:25:00
Well Grockle what a lot of us thought would happen may be about to happen.
To big a squad to select from, Somerset if not to careful may be about to upset one or two players who don't deserve to be dropped from the team.
One person in particular is Steffan Jones he is a proud man and wants to play in everything, and if he is in form why not.
To big a squad to select from, Somerset if not to careful may be about to upset one or two players who don't deserve to be dropped from the team.
One person in particular is Steffan Jones he is a proud man and wants to play in everything, and if he is in form why not.
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:28:20:28:50
Ah, the 'selection headache'. It's difficult to compare this squad to the one we had only a small handful of years ago. Gary Gilder anyone?
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:28:20:30:44
They've got to be careful they don't interrupt the impetus and the balance of the side as well. Which is why I think they'll introduce one new player for this game and then look at the result before they bring in another. Steffan seemed to think the same in the Telegraph on Monday.
I expect to see Willoughby, Caddick and Turner being the spearhead if all are fit. KT may have a point if we persist with Zander when we have a full seam attack and Peter Trego offering more with bat AND ball. Ben Phillips and Jonah may have to accept their one day role.
But where do we put Mike Munday? Do we leave out an out and out bowler and put him in at 9 or do we lengthen the tail and keep the big three in? And if we do who do we leave out?
It's a great position to be in but the balancing act is so crucial. You almost hope for an injury!!
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2008:05:28:20:32:49 by Grockle.
I expect to see Willoughby, Caddick and Turner being the spearhead if all are fit. KT may have a point if we persist with Zander when we have a full seam attack and Peter Trego offering more with bat AND ball. Ben Phillips and Jonah may have to accept their one day role.
But where do we put Mike Munday? Do we leave out an out and out bowler and put him in at 9 or do we lengthen the tail and keep the big three in? And if we do who do we leave out?
It's a great position to be in but the balancing act is so crucial. You almost hope for an injury!!
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2008:05:28:20:32:49 by Grockle.
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:28:20:42:41
It is a nice problem to have and sadly being part of a successful team means somebody is always going to be disappointed.
All the more reason to keep up the pressure on the selectors and force your way back in.
I have to say Grockle that I never,ever hope for an injury.
Those things seem to be catching.
It'd be a shame for Steffan if he's dropped,he has performed superbly though I can see him having to sit this one out.
The Munday factor is another matter.
I'm glad I don't have to pick the team.
All the more reason to keep up the pressure on the selectors and force your way back in.
I have to say Grockle that I never,ever hope for an injury.
Those things seem to be catching.
It'd be a shame for Steffan if he's dropped,he has performed superbly though I can see him having to sit this one out.
The Munday factor is another matter.
I'm glad I don't have to pick the team.
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:28:21:15:58
I was talking from the point of view of a selector or player BJ
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:28:21:18:23
If you looked at the ambience at Whitgift School for Surrey`s one-day match with Sussex today, you would virtually rule out conditions being dry enough by Friday to bring Michael Munday into the equation.
However, one slightly conservative way of easing the selection problem might be to remember there are just two championship matches left before we go into 20/20 mode.
Is it worth risking such a key performer as Andy Caddick after just one Saturday afternoon outing for Clevedon, when you could bring him back after the 20/20 fortnight with another month of recovery time behind him?
The downside of this of course - and something the England management never realised - is that Andy just loves to get out there and bowl.
However, one slightly conservative way of easing the selection problem might be to remember there are just two championship matches left before we go into 20/20 mode.
Is it worth risking such a key performer as Andy Caddick after just one Saturday afternoon outing for Clevedon, when you could bring him back after the 20/20 fortnight with another month of recovery time behind him?
The downside of this of course - and something the England management never realised - is that Andy just loves to get out there and bowl.
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:28:21:27:45
Yep. I think if he's ready then use him BUT only if he's ready.
The reason would be to put the fear of God up some teams and let them ponder on it for a month and a bit. However if he isn't fully fit I'd go your way Jerry.
Maybe Turner will play instead and Andy will take the month - he isn't really going to be part of the early 20/20 anyway unless things alter drastically to previous campaigns.
The reason would be to put the fear of God up some teams and let them ponder on it for a month and a bit. However if he isn't fully fit I'd go your way Jerry.
Maybe Turner will play instead and Andy will take the month - he isn't really going to be part of the early 20/20 anyway unless things alter drastically to previous campaigns.
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: VictheFish (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:28:22:16:23
According to some of the Press reports, ARC will be playing for Clevedon C.C. against Taunton C.C. on Saturday.
If so, I can't see how he'll feature for the game at Whitgift School. In which case; Willo and Jonah for starters, Ben P for 1st change and PT for 2nd. Spin from IB.
Trescothick
Edwards
Langer
Hildreth
Blackwell
?
Trego
Kieswetter
Phillips
Jones
Willoughby
... Anyone?
The number 6 is whom?
de Bruyn might go at 5 and they all shift down by one. Or Munday comes in at 10. Or Turner plays and fits in at 9. Perhaps Durston at 6/7 and the others accommodate.
To paraphrase Larry Hagman in cr*p British Gas adverts from the 80's "it's (not) good to be in charge."
Me? If no ARC then I'd slide in a fit Tina Turner at 9 and open with him and Willo, then manage BP and SJ with spin from IB.
All pure conjecture of course and i'll hope that ARC is fit and takes 13 in the match ...
VtF.
If so, I can't see how he'll feature for the game at Whitgift School. In which case; Willo and Jonah for starters, Ben P for 1st change and PT for 2nd. Spin from IB.
Trescothick
Edwards
Langer
Hildreth
Blackwell
?
Trego
Kieswetter
Phillips
Jones
Willoughby
... Anyone?
The number 6 is whom?
de Bruyn might go at 5 and they all shift down by one. Or Munday comes in at 10. Or Turner plays and fits in at 9. Perhaps Durston at 6/7 and the others accommodate.
To paraphrase Larry Hagman in cr*p British Gas adverts from the 80's "it's (not) good to be in charge."
Me? If no ARC then I'd slide in a fit Tina Turner at 9 and open with him and Willo, then manage BP and SJ with spin from IB.
All pure conjecture of course and i'll hope that ARC is fit and takes 13 in the match ...
VtF.
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:28:22:19:36
I would hope to see Jones-he's in cracking form and will be totally disgusted if de Bruyn plays. I'm with Grockle that the first 7 are as he suggests and so is 11, but perm any 3 from the rest and I'm gld all I~ have to do is criticise
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:28:23:02:48
Jonah suggested that Whitgift was the place for ARC's return Vic in the Telegraph article earlier in the week.
Maybe he isn't ready but I wouldn't go on who may be playing in Taunton on Sat...it wouldn't be the first time that player list was slightly out...bit we'll see on Fri I suppose
Maybe he isn't ready but I wouldn't go on who may be playing in Taunton on Sat...it wouldn't be the first time that player list was slightly out...bit we'll see on Fri I suppose
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: VictheFish (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:28:23:16:35
The 'Press' are wonderful beasts aren't they?
So long as he's ready and able then bring it on. This team's done well already - imagine adding ARC to it?
Appetite whetted ...
Hope you're right Grockle, you're nearer to things than me!
VtF.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:05:28:23:17:24 by VictheFish.
So long as he's ready and able then bring it on. This team's done well already - imagine adding ARC to it?
Appetite whetted ...
Hope you're right Grockle, you're nearer to things than me!
VtF.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:05:28:23:17:24 by VictheFish.
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:29:08:30:09
I wouldn't expect to see Caddy risked so soon. Not for a whole four days. I do, however, wonder if the powers that be might consider an outing for him at Canterbury the following Wednesday? That's if he plays and passes (fitness wise) the test of another league game for Clevedon? Incidentally, did anyone else see that, apparently, Clevedon slips shelled no fewer than three catches off the great man. I wouldn't want to be in their shoes!)
Personally, I think we really must pick Mark Turner if he is fit. I cannot imagine that the pitch will exactly be a bowlers dream and I think we will need extra speed through the air, if possible. I also think that we should persist with Jonah on the basis that players have to see that if they do exceptionally well, they will be retained.
I think I'd give Ben Phillips a rest, to facilitate Turner's return and otherwise stick with what we played in the last game. However, should De Bruyn contribute as little at Whitgift as he did at Tunbridge, then I'd think long and hard about picking him versus Yorkshire. Ian moving up a place and Peter Trego at six might make more sense. And for the Yorks game, on our flat track, it might be as well to have Munday as an option and moving Pete up to six could make room for that. However, before I had full confidence in making such a change I would like to see more CC runs from Craig in the number seven berth.
Personally, I think we really must pick Mark Turner if he is fit. I cannot imagine that the pitch will exactly be a bowlers dream and I think we will need extra speed through the air, if possible. I also think that we should persist with Jonah on the basis that players have to see that if they do exceptionally well, they will be retained.
I think I'd give Ben Phillips a rest, to facilitate Turner's return and otherwise stick with what we played in the last game. However, should De Bruyn contribute as little at Whitgift as he did at Tunbridge, then I'd think long and hard about picking him versus Yorkshire. Ian moving up a place and Peter Trego at six might make more sense. And for the Yorks game, on our flat track, it might be as well to have Munday as an option and moving Pete up to six could make room for that. However, before I had full confidence in making such a change I would like to see more CC runs from Craig in the number seven berth.
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:29:08:37:25
I've noted Kieswetter's lack of first class runs and feel that nobody's place can be guaranteed. Gazzard performed well in the pre-season friendlies and may think he deserves another chance at CC level.
Incidentally, does anyone know what has happened to Spurway?
LoL
Sixty Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Incidentally, does anyone know what has happened to Spurway?
LoL
Sixty Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:29:08:41:42
The problem might be that Craig may be some distance ahead with the gauntlets, however?
Craig's lack of runs is a bit of a mystery to me, to be honest. He seems to have the defensive technique. He seems to have plenty of shots. He's still very young, though. Perhaps it's the case that one good score will open the floodgates?
I have even been wondering whether part of the reason that he's been opening up in the FP Trophy is that the powers-that-be might see in him a possible opening batsman in the future (i.e in proper cricket)
Craig's lack of runs is a bit of a mystery to me, to be honest. He seems to have the defensive technique. He seems to have plenty of shots. He's still very young, though. Perhaps it's the case that one good score will open the floodgates?
I have even been wondering whether part of the reason that he's been opening up in the FP Trophy is that the powers-that-be might see in him a possible opening batsman in the future (i.e in proper cricket)
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:29:08:47:54
I'm not keen on wicketkeepers opening in first-class cricket. They should focus on their major skills and then add valuable runs in the second half of the order. Even Gilchrist, perhaps the greatest wicketkeeper batsman of modern times did not regularly open in first class matches.
LoL
Sixty Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:29:08:56:40
I quite agree about the opening question LoL, but (just to provoke discussion) might amend your post a little: to "perhaps the greatest batsman wicketkeeper of all time".
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: MisterMurph (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:29:08:59:01
In answer to your question LoL, I made a surprise visit to the family for the long weekend, and flicked through the Chard & Ilminster to see young Spurway turning out for Ilminster. I believe I also saw BoBo's name playing for UC against a Chard side. It's always worrying when you look through the line ups and recognise all the surnames from the local teams, but assume it was their fathers that you played with and against all those years ago...
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:29:09:24:35
Saw on Teletext that Trigger is injured - anyone got the facts?
In the Gazette that The Cadmeister isn't fit enough for Whitgift - anyone know more??
In the Gazette that The Cadmeister isn't fit enough for Whitgift - anyone know more??
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:29:09:31:46
He, supposedly, went off vs Kent.
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:29:09:37:52
I thought I'd read (on the Club site) that he was not in the squad for one of the two abandoned FPT games, but that it was "only a niggle" or some such.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:05:29:09:40:21 by Frome Exile.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:05:29:09:40:21 by Frome Exile.
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:29:09:54:06
For me, Turner should play. If he's got a niggle the PT should make way; if he hasn't then Ben should miss out.
Caddy should not be played if there is the slightest doubt about him, but if we are as close to 100% sure as we can be, then I think ZdB should make way.
According to CricketArchive, Gazzard has made 146 runs @ 36.5 in 4 innings in the 2nd XI Ch. CK is averaging 25 with the big boys, but has 24 catches in 5 games, compared to 10 in three for CG. So all in all, Gazzard probably isn't doing quite enough to put pressure on Kieswetter's place just yet.
Caddy should not be played if there is the slightest doubt about him, but if we are as close to 100% sure as we can be, then I think ZdB should make way.
According to CricketArchive, Gazzard has made 146 runs @ 36.5 in 4 innings in the 2nd XI Ch. CK is averaging 25 with the big boys, but has 24 catches in 5 games, compared to 10 in three for CG. So all in all, Gazzard probably isn't doing quite enough to put pressure on Kieswetter's place just yet.
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:29:09:58:41
To be fair, the influx of Kolpaks etc has probably led to an increase in the quality of the average second XI team. Therefore, second XI numbers might possibly carry more weight, this season, than they've carried for some considerable time.
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:29:10:01:57
That's true, AG, but if he is to displace CK it will be, I suspect, on the basis of making big scores. After all, others (Wes, John) in the 2nds have centuries against the same opposition, and Gazz has only made 1 fifty.
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:29:10:06:24
Yes, FE, I'd agree with that.
In any case, I think the powers that be regard Craig as an exceptional talent and I think things would have to get quite a bit leaner for him on the batting front, before they would seriously contemplate a change.
In any case, I think the powers that be regard Craig as an exceptional talent and I think things would have to get quite a bit leaner for him on the batting front, before they would seriously contemplate a change.
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:29:12:33:37
LoL - forecasts have been changing by the minute. However, the latest forecasts for Whitgift appear to be encouraging.
The uncertainty seems to have derived from the fact that there's some cold, wet stuff over Holland at the moment. They weren't sure whether it was going to move west (thus enveloping the South East) or in a more north-westerly direction - thus brushing through the Wash and Humber and up towards Tyneside. It now seems as though the Geordies and their 'pals,' the Wearsiders are set for an unpleasant weekend and we are set for a rather good one.
The uncertainty seems to have derived from the fact that there's some cold, wet stuff over Holland at the moment. They weren't sure whether it was going to move west (thus enveloping the South East) or in a more north-westerly direction - thus brushing through the Wash and Humber and up towards Tyneside. It now seems as though the Geordies and their 'pals,' the Wearsiders are set for an unpleasant weekend and we are set for a rather good one.
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:29:12:43:40
sounds good to me. Thanks
LoL
Sixty Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: Tractor (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:29:13:37:12
After brushing through my Wash and Humber, I'll don the skimpy sheer shorts at the weekend. Sounds like a scorcher to me. Then again, if it's a tad overcast, I'll don the skimpy sheer shorts, let a bit of air to the sediment & dregs (legs). C'mon my Babbies!!!
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: TykesRUs (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:29:14:26:59
I envy you your selection problems.At YCCC we are in a different situation.Currently we have Hoggard,Naved,Kruis,Shahzad ,Morkel(who was standing in for Naved) all injured seamers;Patterson,another seamer,just returning from knee surgery and not considered fit enough for a 4 day game and Gough willing but with a few niggles which have prompted him to announce that he's calling it a day at the end of the season.
I think I would prefer your problems!
Hopefully we will have a couple back for our visit to Taunton next week
I think I would prefer your problems!
Hopefully we will have a couple back for our visit to Taunton next week
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:29:14:43:00
Hopefully you won't, Tyke! Maybe you could recall Sidebottom or Silverwood?
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:29:14:47:42
I don't want them to have Naved available.
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: Kentish Townie (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:29:15:47:35
What about Durston at Six instead of De Bruyn?
Solid bat and extra spinning option to back up Blackie if MM doesn't play.
It would be hard to drop Jonah; I would keep the same seamers unless Turner is fit and then he should come in for Philips who notwithstanding has been reliable this season
Solid bat and extra spinning option to back up Blackie if MM doesn't play.
It would be hard to drop Jonah; I would keep the same seamers unless Turner is fit and then he should come in for Philips who notwithstanding has been reliable this season
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:29:15:54:10
Got to unleash the burly Welshman again. His tail should be right up.
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:29:15:58:59
Somerset have decided to retain the same side that beat Kent, subject to a fitness test tomorrow on Peter T (groin strain).
If he doesn`t make it, the choice for a replacement rests between Michael Munday and Alfonso Thomas.
If he doesn`t make it, the choice for a replacement rests between Michael Munday and Alfonso Thomas.
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:29:16:10:45
what, no Mark Turner? Why on earth not? Is he still not fit? I can't believe that he is - all of a sudden - behind Alphonso Thomas for a place in the team?
We must capitalise on Turner's performance vs Lancs by getting him back in team as soon as he is fit.
We must capitalise on Turner's performance vs Lancs by getting him back in team as soon as he is fit.
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:29:18:47:38
MT doesn't even get a mention on the 'Official' site. Nor does the present state of AC.
Odd ?
Grizzzly
Odd ?
Grizzzly
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:29:18:57:42
M.M. that was Brother of playing for U.C.
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:29:19:14:13
Very often the local BBC site have more that the official site.
Peter Trego (side strain) will face a late fitness test so seamer Alfonso Thomas and leg-spinner Michael Munday are standing by to replace him. [news.bbc.co.uk]
Peter Trego (side strain) will face a late fitness test so seamer Alfonso Thomas and leg-spinner Michael Munday are standing by to replace him. [news.bbc.co.uk]
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: Supermarc77 (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:29:19:22:44
Somerset will choose from the following 13 players- Marcus Trescothick, Neil Edwards, Justin Langer, James Hildreth, Zander de Bruyn, Ian Blackwell, Pete Trego, Craig Kieswetter, Ben Phillips, Alfonso Thomas, Steffan Jones, Charl Willoughby and Michael Munday.
For tomorrow
no Caddick or Turner
For tomorrow
no Caddick or Turner
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: supermarc777 (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:29:19:24:43
Somerset will choose from the following 13 players- Marcus Trescothick, Neil Edwards, Justin Langer, James Hildreth, Zander de Bruyn, Ian Blackwell, Pete Trego, Craig Kieswetter, Ben Phillips, Alfonso Thomas, Steffan Jones, Charl Willoughby and Michael Munday.
No Caddick or Turner
Trego and Willoughby have fitness tests in the morning
No Caddick or Turner
Trego and Willoughby have fitness tests in the morning
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: Supermarc77 (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:29:19:27:35
Trego and willoughby have fitness tests in the morning
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: MisterMurph (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:29:19:58:20
Thanks Rob - perhaps I meant BoBoBo...
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:29:21:42:17
Why is Willo havong a fitness test? We need him!
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:30:08:22:31
I'm afraid there is a lot of standing water here in London this morning. It's been very wet since the bank holiday Monday, in general, and rained heavily for an hour or so last night (with light rain for another 90 minutes or so.) It's rained every day, with some heavy bursts.
Therefore, I'd be really rather surprised if play gets under way on time. Indeed, I doubt we'll see any play before lunch unless Whitgift is a much better drying ground than most out-grounds are.
Therefore, I'd be really rather surprised if play gets under way on time. Indeed, I doubt we'll see any play before lunch unless Whitgift is a much better drying ground than most out-grounds are.
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:30:08:26:04
I wonder if Mr Rose's comments on Caddy contain a clue about Canterbury on Wednesday.
"We'll make a decision on AC's first-class comeback, when we are fully satisfied that he is able to get through four days."
I wonder if this means they are satisfied that he'd be good for 10 overs, but not yet for 50? (in the match)
If so, might we give AC a run out on Wednesday?
Meantime, it's hugely dissappointing that they don't even mention Mark Turner. They had said he was fit again. If that's no longer the case, I'd rather they told us. If he's in the same boat as Caddy and they're not yet satisfied that he can last a full four days, then ditto.
"We'll make a decision on AC's first-class comeback, when we are fully satisfied that he is able to get through four days."
I wonder if this means they are satisfied that he'd be good for 10 overs, but not yet for 50? (in the match)
If so, might we give AC a run out on Wednesday?
Meantime, it's hugely dissappointing that they don't even mention Mark Turner. They had said he was fit again. If that's no longer the case, I'd rather they told us. If he's in the same boat as Caddy and they're not yet satisfied that he can last a full four days, then ditto.
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: legoland™ (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:30:09:32:36
Festival update.The last visit by Somerset to our festival championship matches(Guildford)encouraged Mr Langer to bat on and on..,.342 was the highest innings i've witnessed.Quite painful but fair play was a masterclass really.I expect Whitgift to be a batsmans wicket but with rain about recently not be unhelpful to the seamers.
The eyes of the wider cricketing world will be on Ramps'.Surrey are still waiting for a first championship win.I hope to see the hundreth 100 as part of a Surrey win,trusting you guys will not be too disappointed.Enjoy all.
The eyes of the wider cricketing world will be on Ramps'.Surrey are still waiting for a first championship win.I hope to see the hundreth 100 as part of a Surrey win,trusting you guys will not be too disappointed.Enjoy all.
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: Coy (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:30:09:42:00
At the moment it's meant to start on time.
According to the BBC.
According to the BBC.
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: Coy (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:30:09:46:49
Trescothick, Edwards, Hildreth, Langer, de Bruyn, Blackwell, Thomas, Kieswetter, Phillips, Jones, Willougby.
No Trego but Willoughby is fit.
No Trego but Willoughby is fit.
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:30:09:49:26
Seems that Thomas may have kept Turner out because of his batting ability - with Trigger missing.
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:30:09:49:37
Yes, we won the toss and have chosen to insert them, no doubt hoping there will be early assistance from dampness in the surface. Personally, I'm of the Lord Cowdrey school.
Let's start crossing everything that Pete is fit for next Wednesday because he would be a huge miss if he's not fit.
I wonder - to answer my own question - if Thomas is the replacement for Pete because his first-class record includes two first-class tons?
Then again, there's that old question about how much stock we can put into records acquired in SA cricket?
Let's start crossing everything that Pete is fit for next Wednesday because he would be a huge miss if he's not fit.
I wonder - to answer my own question - if Thomas is the replacement for Pete because his first-class record includes two first-class tons?
Then again, there's that old question about how much stock we can put into records acquired in SA cricket?
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:30:09:54:52
Turner wasn't in the 13, SJB.
CricInfo only has 10 at present with Willoughby miossing from Coy's list above.
Hope Coy is correct.
CricInfo only has 10 at present with Willoughby miossing from Coy's list above.
Hope Coy is correct.
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: Coy (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:30:09:57:14
My team list was from the BBC.
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: Coy (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:30:09:59:37
Willoughby is playing i'm listening to the match and he is opening the bowling with Alfonso Thomas.
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:30:09:59:44
CricInfo now concurs!
Happy days...........except for BoBo, of course.
Get well soon feller!
Happy days...........except for BoBo, of course.
Get well soon feller!
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:30:10:01:12
Have you got a Link Coy?
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:30:10:01:29
Get well by Wednesday to be more precise!!
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: Coy (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:30:10:10:42
[www.bbc.co.uk]
It takes you to BBC London sport shows page, and top right hand column it says Listen to live Surrey cricket commentary, then click on it.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:05:30:10:11:23 by Coy.
It takes you to BBC London sport shows page, and top right hand column it says Listen to live Surrey cricket commentary, then click on it.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:05:30:10:11:23 by Coy.
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:30:10:18:59
Thanks Coy - have worked it out. But it only works with Realplayer (not Windows Media Player).
20-0 but Thomas has just passed Spriegel's edge. They are saying Spriegel is making his Surrey debut at his old school Whitgift.
20-0 but Thomas has just passed Spriegel's edge. They are saying Spriegel is making his Surrey debut at his old school Whitgift.
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:30:10:22:08
any sign of much movement (according the commentary) Sloop?
Absolutely need to get into the form horses named Butcher and Afzaal, ASAP.
Absolutely need to get into the form horses named Butcher and Afzaal, ASAP.
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:30:10:27:41
Come on, Thomas, this is expensive stuff, so far.
I'm surprised he got the new ball, since JL seems to have previously had a major preference for Ben to take the new ball.
I'm surprised he got the new ball, since JL seems to have previously had a major preference for Ben to take the new ball.
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:30:10:29:39
'A little bit of swing there for Willoughby...' - so yes some swing. 32-0. Steffan just on.
They are wittering on (quite pleasantly) about visiting Bath and Weston (sic) and other 'out' grounds.
They are well informed (otherwise) and aware of Somerset listeners (just referred to the very heavy rain in Somerset last night).
They are wittering on (quite pleasantly) about visiting Bath and Weston (sic) and other 'out' grounds.
They are well informed (otherwise) and aware of Somerset listeners (just referred to the very heavy rain in Somerset last night).
Re: Surrey School Selection Syndrome
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:30:10:32:37
Come on, the burly Welshman!!
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