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Return of the Long Stuff - Kent

No Big Man
By Grockle
July 16 2008
Caddick does not play against the Kentish crew and we pack the side with seamers and leave the spin to Blackie. It's an important 4 dayer but may not last that long given the forecast. Kent win the toss and put us in! (Strange decision) We come out of the traps like greyhounds and smash over 100 before we lose both openers. I blame this one day stuff!

v Kent LVCC1 @ Taunton Wednesday 16 July 2008

Scorecard

It was 2002 when we last faced Kent in the Championship at Taunton.  Jamie Cox was captain and some bloke called Wood and some bloke called Blackwell starred for us.  Different side, different game today but important in the general scheme of things

We go in "seam heavy" without Caddick once again but Langer has compensated by picking nearly everyone else who bowls;

Trescothick, Langer, de Bruyn, Hildreth, Trego, Blackwell, Kieswetter, Phillips, Jones, Thomas and Willoughby 

are the men on the field today but the bowlers will have to wait after Kent in explicably put us in!

Marcus and Justin say thanks very much and prompt Kent to change their bowlers 5 times in the first 12 overs as they smash their way to the first hundred in about that amount of balls.  Trescothick reaches 58 off 78 before he goes to Saggers wth the score on 109.  His skipper is a little less certain but hits his half ton off less balls (57) before he pops back to the dressing room at 113 courtesy of Joseph.

de Bruyn is at number 3 at the expense of Neil Edwards who has been benched for this game and after his ton at Chester-le-Street he is expected to set up at one end while Hildreth pushes the score on at the other.  Doesn't go to plan though because James continues his poor spell going cheaply to Saggers caught behind for a mere 4.

It's 136 at lunch with Peter Trego coming in further up the order than we have seen him before and in front of Blackwell.  They seem to be happy with their lot though as by the 34th over the pair have moved the score on to 170 with Trigger playing the 'shotmaker' role. This prompts the arrival of Tredwell at the OP end for the 38th as Kent revert to spin, nothing else seems to be worrying anyone.

Peter takes a shine to Mr Tredwell, depositing hi twice into the OP for 6 as he moves towards an aggressive 50 off 54 balls.  Zander is doing what he does very effecti vely at the other end sending Saggers and Joseph scurrying after perfectly timed shots to the graveyard for 4 and hitting beautifully clean drives straight back past the bowler. The 200 comes and goes as the two of them start to motor once again, large amounts of runs coming off every bowler with no-one standing out as a possible wicket taker.

Eventually, Trego hits one slightly in from the boundary and the fielder coming in just gets his hands under it...or doesn't in the opinion of the batsman.  Pete stands there for what seems like a hell of a long time before he walks as the unpire confirms that he thought the ball carried.  244 for 4 and a slighter Ian Blackwell strides out to take his place.  de Bruyn is in very good form and continues to accumulate while IB gets his eye in and they put 50 on before Zander tries to drop his hands to one from Saggers that rearsa a bit and he is caught behind for a very good 81 off 128 balls with 10 fours and a six.  he seems to have got this English domestic cricket sussed and he scored quickly as well.

By Tea we have 314 having started the session on 136.  They belted along a bit.  kent must be wondering whether the decision to field was actualy the best one they could have made...or just sheer lunacy!!  Craig Kieswetter and Blackwell will be out after Tea and hopefully the Kentish nightmare will continue.

It's a little darker and more overcast in the third session but it doesn't stop the Somerset men continuing to put the runs on.  At 369, Ian becomes another passing 50 off 69 balls with 6 fours and a six..it is looking a little more worrying for Key and the Kentmen because he is starting to put bat to ball with alarming regularity and some not too shabby power.  Meanwhile his wicketkeeper partner is playing the solid role but has moved to 33 despite that.

However, not for the first time, Ian's heart rules his head and when he is in a position to create carnage among the opposition he puts one straight up in the air and is caught between the infield and the boundary with 55 to his name and 381 on the total board.  Daft, daft, daft.  Just didn't think for that split second when you really needed him to and another promising innings doesn't develo into that major classy score you know he has in him.

Ben Phillips replaces Ian and it will now be interesting to see if Craig now takes up the leading role or allows the big hitting bowler to do it instead.  There are 21 overs to go and at least 425 should be facinf Kent by the end of play today. But daftness seems to be catching as Kieswetter flips a nothing ball to Key standing at mid-on for just that eventuality and wanders away as if he's been batting for hours and it was just inevitable.  Talk about giving your wicket away.  He goes for 35 at 389 for 7 and out comes Steffan Jones to do battle.

It's 5:12 when the crowd welcome the 400th run and the fifth batting point courtesy of Ben Phillips' bat.  14 overs to go and Van Jaarsfeld and Tredwell on to try and stem the score.  The Somerset boys seem quite happy to stun the spin and sit on their total altough occasionally Ben might have a bash at getting one past the infield - the rate is down to one an over.

As I type that of course both batsmen lay into Van Jaarsfeld and while Phillips deposits him to the OP boundary, Steff goes one better and puts him into the 'shop' car park without bouncing the ball.  That prompts Key to take the new ball and Mclaren returns at the River with 416 up to see what fast/medium pace can do.  Well the answer is that it will do for Jones as he snicks one to first slip and goes for 16 at 421.

At this rate we may get a look at the Kent openers for a coupl of overs.  Alfonso is no mean batsman but we could lose two wickets quickly as Joseph returns at the OP.  Phillips mistimes the first and up in the air it goes before landing in Joseph's rather large hands...out C&B for 22 at 421.  It's all gone a bit at the end.  We were on, at one time, for a 450+ score but we'll probably get about 425 (IF Charl can get off strike) - he nearly dies trying with the first ball he faces!!  Joseph is after him and he's keen to take him on.  The Kent man is bowling no balls and our man is stepping outside leg to try and smear them somewhere....could be a long over but it's got us to the 425 target.  We are all here saying "if only he could bowl one straight" while Joseph keeps slinging them outside off and Charl keeps half timing them or missing completely.

Meanwhile Thomas plays the conventional shots and the rain starts to come down.  He finally snicks a wide one to second slip and we are all out for 427 with 8 overs to go.  Will Kent face 6?  Well the weather may intervene but it looks that way.

A strange day where we have scored very quickly but not created the big winning lead.  Because we've only got just over 400 BUT in one day, we've not got them exactly where we would like them.  Kent have enough time to put this start right because the score isn't 600-ish and it hasn't taken a third of the match to get it.  The score is less than 500 and there's 75% of the match to play.  It owuld have been better to produce a longer innings with a score that probably let us have a go at them twice before having to bat again.  It's now down to the bowlers to get among them early to stop this being a drawn match where there isn't enough time for the last innings.  Kent gave away 36 runs from no balls in that innings Joseph contributed 12 of them.

The Kent Reply

Kay and Denly come out to face a minimum of 5 overs in damp and dark conditions... they must be really happy about this.  It's the opener's "no win" situation.  Charl opens at the OP and has Denley with his second shout for LBW - fourth ball.  The third was going down legside but the next was as plum as plum can be.  Saggers is the replacement and the first goes straight through him and over middle and leg.  He flips the next for 4 and we look to Steffan to do some of the same from the River end.

It's 10 for 1 after two thanks to some very sharp fielding from Trego close in and a few that Key doesn't have to play at from our Welshman.  Willough is spearning them across the Kent skipper but Key is well aware of where his stumps are and is leaving everything he doesn't need to get near to.  12 for 1 at the end of three.  Then we have an interesting over from Jonah.  A single to Key brings Saggers down, four go into the slip cordon and Jones bowls 2 well outside off stump and has a long discussion about where people should be.  He then comprehensively beats Saggers with the next, spears in an LBW possible which is just going down the leg and then produces a beautiful inswinger which cleans the nightwatchman up completely.

Then Charl produces a peach to worry the Kent captain before having him caught behind for 8 (on Craig's second attempt) two balls into the 5th. 

 Kent are 13 for 3 at the end of play - something to have a ponder about overnight then.  Now that is really really interesting.  Well done the boys with the ball!!

Day 2

If we get into them early will the effect cause a collapse?  Well we got into them early and the answer is not clear yet. Van Jaarsveld and Tredwell put up the defensive barriers from ball one and the scoring in the morning has not exactly been speedy but the got the score to 41 before that man Willoughby got into the action again and had VJ caught behind.  At the 25 over mark they were tootling along at 3 an over and Charl had gone off for something (he's back on now) so Phillips and Thomas were keeping them in check and it was Alfonso who got one to nip back in to Tredwell...which unfortunatly he missed.  Thump.....75 for 5 Tredwell gone for 23.

It's still 3 an over as we reach 30 overs....a good afternoon could put us well in charge.  Hopefully Cricinfo will be back in some type of touch by the end of the lunch break!  But before then there's still a bit of excitement as Walker misjudges a Thomas ball andfinds himself in front. Another one down at 90.  That's it up until lunch.  They go in for food in deep trouble after 35 overs.  105 for 6 on the second day after inserting the home team wasn't probably Robert Key's predicted position.  322 runs adrift still...we do need to make them pay this afternoon.

After lunch it all gets a bit bogged down.  Phillips opens from the OP and Jones has the ball at the River but the two newboys cope with the attack quite adequately.  Jonah has to get his line sorted - too many balls away from the stumps without a third slip to clean up and Ben is plugging away but getting nothing through. Then he has a chat with his captain and three balls later, Jones' defence is breached by the tall man, Kieswetter holds the ball and its 134 for 7.   

Just after that we should have been 143 for 8 when Kemp bottom ends one straight back to Phillips who doesn't hold on to it in his midriff.  But it doesn't make much difference because Arafat smashes one to gully while the big man is there and he plucks an absolutely screamer out of the air as if it is gently lobbed to him!!  145 for 8 and "Game On" once more.

When Kemp goes for a big drive and doesn't get it quite right, Mr Langer (just returned from a 'comfort break') is there to take a first slip catch and it's 159 for 9...Jonah is on a roll!!

But they reach 208 before McLaren snicks one to the skipper and we all wait to see if Justin will enforce the follow on.  No he won't, he tells Frosty which roller he wants immmediately and jogs off to prepare to face.   So....doesn't want to face spin on the last day?  probably he doesn't see much in the pitch today and therefore would like 500 on the board before he asks the visitors to take another turn.  Best not to give them the filip of a good second spell at the wicket.

So Marcus joins his boss in the middle with 43 overs of the day available.  The quest to get to 300 as soon as possible (within reason) begins. But MT isn't involved for too long because his skipper runs him out going for a 'quick' single and he's off to the dressing room for 8 at 20 for 1.  Zander is the replacement but he doesn't spend any more time than Marcus at the crease before he is caught by Van Jaarsfeld for 1 at 22.  James Hildreth comes out with his county needing a decent innings from a man in no form at all and every local in the ground is starting to question the skipper's decision to go in again.

The 50 goes up in the 18th and it's all very very slow.  It's not that light but at least it is dry.  Neither James or Justin are looking in command but they keep pushing the score along and we should be looking at a lead of over 300 for tomorrow morning....the question is  - for how many wickets?  We don't want to lose any more if possible.

But it isn't possible as James steers a huge wide one from McLaren off the middle of his bat straight to Tredwell (he really isn't in touch at all). It was a simple catching practice stroke to a man who was there to catch it.  Oh dear!  Trego is next in and at 71 for 3 Justin must be hoping that he curbs his natural desire to get on with it and lasts until the close of play tonight - we could do with these two still being there tomorrow morning.  If any more go down tonight we could compare our position at the start of Day 3 to Key's position at the start of today.  How many is a gettable target with 2 days to go?

The 300 ahead is achieved in the 28th over at 81 for 3. Saggers and McLaren are working manfully to make the Somerset men take chances but they aren't going to oblige (please God!) - at which statement Trego pulls mightily to the "organworks" boundary!!  Just after that he misjudges a slow ball from Saggers and nearly loses his life to a desperate dive from Denly in the middle as the ball is popped up invitingly.  Keep your keyboard quiet Grockle!!

The next phase of this game occurs in the 32nd over as the bowling of James Tredwell introduces spin to the proceedings for the first time this innings but we finally stagger into a three figure total courtesy of a mishooked four from Trego off the pace of Saggers at the other end.  But this game is far from over because Trego then pushes away from his body and snicks to the keeper.  102 for 4 and more twists and turns in this game than a Cornish backroad.   

Ian Blackwell to the crease, interesting times at the old ground! Not helped by a chip back to Tredwell the first time he faces him!  C&B 103 for 5 - that was just a joke I'm afraid and probably hasn't endeared him to his captain at all.  Now we need some kind of steady hand because we could panic and give Kent a horizon to aim for and a smell of a victory they should never have got near.

Craig Kieswetter comes out to complete the last 'batting' partnership and finds his first job is to congratulate his skipper on a 50 off 84 balls with 5 fours.  Thanks heavens there is some application to the job at hand somewhere on the pitch in a Somerset shirt.

With the last over to come, some 40 minutes after the closing time for this day we arte 123 for 5. Langer faces Walker before he faces a bit of time thinking about the day and whether he took the correct actions.  He nearly wasn't there to face at 11:00 as he sacks a long hop to the close fielder, who doesn't hold it.

We finish 348 ahead without losing any more.  100 - 150 tomorrow boys please. ....Ohhh and ten Kent wickets if it's not too much trouble.

 

 

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Return of the Long Stuff - Kent
Posted by: Grockles.com (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 13:05

Return of the Long Stuff - Kent

Men of Kent
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 15/07/2008 14:24

Kent, who have notched up wins in their last two championship matches against Surrey and Yorkshire, have one or two injury problems for Taunton tomorrow.

Azhar Mahmood, who took six wickets in the first innings against Yorkshire, is definitely out and will be replaced by Ryan McLaren, who has also been carrying a knock recently.

And Darren Stevens faces a fitness test in the morning, with Matt Walker standing by. There is talk also at Canterbury of one or two possible further changes.

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 15/07/2008 14:30

Kent look very strong at the mo - shame there aren't also injuries to Key, Denly, van Jaarsveld, Kemp, Jones, Maclaren, Arafat and a few others!

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 15/07/2008 14:47

Shall we send BJ round with the dogs?

LoL

Sixty Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 15/07/2008 15:54

I'm back in now.
Dogs?
Kent?
I'm your man.

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 15/07/2008 15:55

Come on people we should beat anybody if given four day's to do it.

We have just come from playing Durham who we would have beaten if we had the full four day's play.

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Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: The Diamond ruled ok (IP Logged)
Date: 15/07/2008 17:08

Watch Van the man , he's a bit tasty from what I have seen of him this season , likes a nice flat track too .

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 15/07/2008 18:12

I'm not worried,we'll send them back to hop land with their tails between their legs.
A beautiful county Kent,I've spent many happy hours there.
Let's hope for four dry days.
And much,much cooler nights.

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 15/07/2008 22:04

Ben Phillips, Andy Caddick and Michael Munday have been added to the Somerset XI who played at Chester-le-Street, with final decisions depending on the wicket and a late fitness test for Andy C.

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 07:35

The forecast is for rain coming in this afternoon.

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 07:51

We'd better bat and get 250+ by tea then, while BJ send the bad weather over to Wales.

LoL

Sixty Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 08:16

Yep, forecast is unpromising. And not only for today. In that context, it would possibly make sense to not bother with Caddy's fitness test because the fact that he needs a test, by definition suggests some continuing doubt about his fitness (I'm assuming that the fitness test is on his side strain.) In that case, probably better to save him for the next away game as we will probably have more chance of forcing a victory in the away game anyway.

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 09:12

It's sunny at the moment 2 miles from the ground and we beat the predictions yesterday but four days of continuous cricket looks unlikely.

I'm always nervous of playing people who have fitness tests the morning of the start of a game. If they are fit you surely know when you are planning the strategy. If they aren't ready then, they aren't ready period.

Anyone else starting to think that this may be the last hurrah of young Andy?

This injury seems far more serious on a long term basis than we were led to believe in early May and his failure to manage to recover from it probably tells us all that the mighty man is getting old and the body isn't doing what it is told any more.

(Sm72)

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 09:22

I fear you may be right, Grockle, and fervently hope you are not. Whatever happens, let's hope we can retain the good man to be an inspirational coach to our aspiring young fast bowlers.

LoL

Sixty Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 09:37

Now who's stealing whose lines, LoL?

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 10:12

Interesting selection. I certainly didn't see it coming (so much so that I transferred Edwards in to my fantasy team yesterday! Doh!). But looking at it it seems obvious.

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 10:13

I'm absolutely stunned that Kent would opt to field!

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: fRed (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 10:28

Tough on Edwards, surely we've picked a bowler too many?

Cricket's the winner.

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 10:37

I like the fact that Jones is down to bat below Thomas and Phillips - that should bring out the best in him!

LoL

Sixty Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 10:41

With Trego and Phillips only recently back from injury, I think this is advisable. And is it perhaps a typically Australian-style piece of motivation to say "The top four didn't do enough last time out, so one has to go, and I'm going to step up a place and lead from the front?"
You say it's tough on Edwards, but he is only averaging 27 in the Championship with only two fifties.

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: MisterMurph (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 10:43

Well fRed, the attack does look a little "samey". Once the choice had been made to select an extra bowler, I would have thought Michael Munday would have been the more obvious choice.

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 10:46

But Munday really struggled in his last outing against the batting South Africans in what should have been helpful conditions. He looked well below Arul Suppiah in the spinning stakes.

I can't fathom the Kent choice either and we seem to be making the most of it at the present time with 6 per over off the first 10!!

(Sm72)

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: fRed (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 10:53

Good points about Munday, maybe we should have gone with Arul or Wes. Anyway, great start.

Cricket's the winner.

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: MisterMurph (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 11:00

So because he struggled against the SA's he shouldn't get a chance again? However, I wouldn't have had an issue with Arul being the extra bowling option, especially if he's looking a more likely wicket-taker than Michael.

The team just looks a little overloaded with seam bowlers to me.

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 11:01

From the one day's play I saw live, I'd be tempted to dispute the description as "samey", Murph.
There's swing from both hands, a more "hit the deck" style from Steff and Big Ben, and skiddy hustle from Thomas.
There are much more "samey" attacks around than ours.
In fact, Kent's looks no more varied than ours.

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 11:05

"Anyone else starting to think that this may be the last hurrah of young Andy?

This injury seems far more serious on a long term basis than we were led to believe in early May and his failure to manage to recover from it probably tells us all that the mighty man is getting old and the body isn't doing what it is told any more."

Well, Grockle, your analysis is certainly a possibility.

However, it's also true that AC has never been one of those guys that's constantly in and out of teams with one niggle after the other. Rather, he's been someone who either plays pretty much every game in a season, or he's been someone who has had a major struggle with some particular major injury in a particular season. The shin splints were the most obvious example. But there was also the original back injury a few years ago, too. It might be the case that this season will be a write-off but that he will be back next season at something approaching the level at which he bowled last season.

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 11:10

"You say it's tough on Edwards, but he is only averaging 27 in the Championship with only two fifties."

The man's ability level is frightening, quite frankly. He seems to have a knack of being fluent enough to start plenty of innings with a flurry of boundaries. But I fear that he's become a bit too carried away with the team concept of aggressive batting, to the extent that he's placing more value in giving the team a 'positive,' start, than he is on building an innings. If he's to be sent to the second XI, I'd like to see Mr Rose send him there with a specific message that he must focus on trying to build substantial innings.

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 11:13

As for Kent fielding first, perhaps they read the same comments from Mr Rose about the track that we did. Perhaps they thought there'd be something huge in it? Or perhaps they looked at what happened in the Hants game where we deliberately started the pitch damp and thought that we'd try the same thing again?

Perhaps they were right and the pitch really is damp and their guys have got carried away with themselves?

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 11:15

I'm afraid the Mike looked so out of touch against the SA's that I'd be loathed to risk him in an important Championship match at Taunton.

I know it's then a problem because how can you get him back in touch without playing him - not got a solution I'm afraid? But they don't seem to think spin will be an issue in this one or they surely would have considered Arul as a second option.

Langer tends to hope to do it with the seamers more often than not rather than 'risk' two spinners. Not enough faith in our slows perhaps?

(Sm72)

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 11:18

To be fair, I think the prospects for most spinners on our track are grim. I tend to think that the surface is too firm, to provide a great amount of turn. If you're the kind of spinner who can bowl on anything, such as Murali or Warne? Fine.

Otherwise? You won't take vast numbers of wickets unless the batsmen are hugely complicit in their own downfall. An obvious example is the Durham game vs Gareth Breese a few years ago, where Ian said afterwards that we "played ridiculous shots."

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 11:24

103-0 after 20 overs.....

Is this a 20/20 match?

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 11:26

Oh, think I put a hex on Banger. Sorry. I'll get back to work.

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 11:29

Well they've bought one wicket.
If we sell the other 9 at least as dearly, we'll be in the box seats in this one.
Come on my babbies!

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: edinburghbill (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 11:31

103-0 after 20 overs.....

Is this a 20/20 match?

No, I think it's a 153/72/58 match ;-)

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 11:31

As to the debate over the 'balance,' or otherwise of our team, I'd suggest the the "5th bowler," which - in a sense - is Ben Phillips in that he is the guy that has been added to this team is there primarily as a defensive option. He offers JL the option of bottling up an end, in much the same manner as Ian does.

By contrast, Pete is a very attacking bowler whose strike rate is usually going to be more impressive than his economy rate. And Alphonso seems to be an almost old-fashioned kind of bowler in that he seeks to bowl a very full length indeed to give the ball maximum chance to swing. If that goes even slighly awry, then he will be bowling non-swinging half-volleys, and he was noticeably expensive at Chester LS.

I think FE's point about fitness is also a valid one. Pete did not bowl many overs in the last game and Ben didn't play at all, so....

It is, of course, somewhat dissappointing, though, that Mark Turner was not in good enough form to be seriously considered for this game. It's also somewhat dissappointing that, with Neil missing out, the chance was not taken to give Wesley Durston a shot at staking a regular place.

On the plus side, this game should represent a very considerable opporunity for Peter Trego. It is my view that his best chance of getting into the England team is to be seen as a better option than Collingwood against teams where we do not want to trust Flintoff at six. But - in order to get that thought in the selectors minds, he should regularly be getting good runs at the no.6 position.

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 11:35

I wonder if we're already forcing the issue because of the forecast time that is likely to be taken out of this game?

Personally, I think I'd be more inclined to set the paramount aim of taking all five batting points with my view being that a 12 point draw would certainly not be disastrous, by any manner of means. I also think we simply have not scored enough batting points at Taunton this season.

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 11:37

Looks like you might be right AG, I imagine they both had license to go for it, and now they're both gone.

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 11:39

dissappointing. I'd rather be 80/0 at lunch!

btw.. on the team balance front, I notice that Surrey who are playing a game on a pitch that they would have thought likely to be a road, have also picked five guys who are mainly bowlers in their team.

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 11:43

Let's hope Mr Rose somehow got his wish and there's plenty in this (and that it will stay there.)

The main reason I say this is that I doubt if Key and Van Jaarsveld will be so generous as to both get to 50 and then both get out.

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 12:05

Well you have one of the things you've often asked for AG: an opportunity for Peter Trego to demonstrate what he can do up the order.

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 12:16

Anyone have a forecast for Saturday to hand? I'm thinking of gracing the place with my presence. Will be the first time for weeks, so hoping there will be the prospect of seeing us win the game.

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 12:19

"Well you have one of the things you've often asked for AG: an opportunity for Peter Trego to demonstrate what he can do up the order."

And Ian, too.

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 12:26

or not... I assumed that Ian would bat five and Pete six, but apparently not...

Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 12:41

136 for 3 at lunch and it seems they used 5 bowlers in the first 12 overs. Our lot seem to have got themselves out and Justin never seems to have got himself in - lots of edges in his total.

I'll let you know how things are going on the front page if anything interesting happens. Working at the ground this afternoon so I may be sidetracked from the important stuff for a while.

(Sm72)



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Re: Return of the Long Stuff - Kent
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 13:11

Did you see the morning session, Grockle? Or was it the local radio or something that said that JL was edging the ball around?

If so, then that might suggest there's actually something in the track. I just hope it's not a repeat of the Hants game where there's only something in it because we've started it damp, otherwise the rest of the batting will be easy again.

p.s. Cricinfo is not having a good day, and anyone that wants to keep up-to-date might be better with the Beeb today, which does at least seem to have things up-to-date.

Re: Return of the Long Stuff - Kent
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 13:13

Interesting, though, that they bowled as many as four overs of spin before lunch?



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Re: Men of Kent
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 13:14

Nope all my comments about the first phase of this game are gleaned from those who were here. I was working (and still am). JL seemed a bit jittery it seems and JH got himself out. They did not impress with the ball to put the final shine on it all.

(Sm72)

Re: Return of the Long Stuff - Kent
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 16/07/2008 13:41

My comment, AG, was made after Peter came in at 5.