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Surrey "One Dayer"

Yesterday's Hero
By Grockle
August 15 2008
The awesome performance of Marcus trescothick and Zander de Bruyn yesterday has put this game in an interesting place for the last day. With 400 to get Surrey can gain nothing from the present situation anfd we will be up for some kind of contrived finish - but will Surrey be interested? If they are....can we get 10 in a day on a good wicket?

v Surrey LVCC1 @ Taunton Friday 15 August 2008

Scorecard

 There are rumours of a contrived finish attempt being made this morning with negotiations between the captains about what scenario would create a competitive finish with a wining result possible for both sides.  One has to wonder what would be a situation that Surrey would be happy to agree to and whether we would agree to forego any bowling bonus points to go for it.

We shall wait with bated breath.  In the meantime Surrey resume on 47 for 1 after losing Newman for zero to Caddick late last evening.  It's probably significant that the Surrey warm up involved batsmen only and the only people on the field at 10:30 are Caddick, Phillips and Thomas who are all warming up.

What does it all mean?

Well as the umpires come out it means very little because the news has just come thorugh that the Riverside game between Durham and Nottinghamshire has been abandoned without a ball being bowled and with our 5 points already we'll probably take the day, hopefully get the bowling bonus points and the 4 for the draw and take the 12 without problem.  As somene said in here, if two ex-Middlesex guys could sort it out, the perfect situation would be them getting the 400 and us taking 9 wickets.  That would leave us in sight of Durham (about 2 behind) and very near Notts with a game in hand over them.

It'll be a bat out the day game unless we get through them sharpish - highly unlikely but we shall have to see.  Langer will play it safe - he has no real reason not to and Ramps won't jeopardise the draw his side need as they hold up the table and hopefully will take bonus batting points from this one.

Alfonso opened form the River and Charl took the ball at the OP with Ramps facing the first ball, Sean Walters is at the other ned and has the honour of putting the first boundary to the boards for 4 - providing Surrey with a 50. That happenend the ball before Willoughby had him caught at slip for 38.  50 for 2.  Batty is the next man in.

But he is also the next man out when at 62, Thomas gets one through his defence and clean bowls him for 8.  Seventeen to go and out comes Afzaal.  As long as we can keep the big partnership from forming we have a slim chance in this.  These two are the ones who can put this game away and they will be planning to do so.  Charl has an attacking field with 2 slips and a gully and Hildreth taking the close legside fielding position under the helmet.  Usmann  seems willing to take on the bowling and has a couple of injudicious swishes - keep that up sir...go for everything.  Alfonso is jagging it across the new batsman and Langer has a third slip in for him at the OP. Thomas is being aggressive, sharp and varied while his bowling partner does that 'plugging away' thing that he has done so well all season.

In comes Andrew to take over at the River for the 35th over with 78 to Surrey. His first ball to Afzaal is right on the money and all the batsman can do is push it to Hildreth at midwicket.  A maiden and Afzaal gets a bit of a working over but handles it well. Ramprakash is playing at absolutely nothing he doesn't need to. No tempting this man to hit runs - he doesn't actually need to.  Charl puts in another maiden and the Surrey men stay where they have been for 12 balls. 

Ben Phillips comes on at over number 40 with 91 on the board.  It's going to be a long afternoon on the basis of the last half hour.  We are pushing for attacking shots and the batsmen are looking to hit as little as possibleIn the 41st, Caddick is not happy with the ball and the umpires have a chat about it for a minute or two before they send it back to the big man to carry on with it. It's only going about the place at 3 runs an over so there shouldn't be much up with it.  He seems to be expecting something from it because we now have three more fielders in the off side ring with Zander and Pete joining James in the gully area.  The only fielder not there is the third slip!  Unfortunately very little is happening and when it does, Ramps flip it over Marcus at second slip for a four that brings up the 100.

Ian Blackwell is brought on for the 45th and probably will be Justin's last throw at going for a win.  It was always an absolute outside chance but as the two Surrey men go to a 50 partnership at 112 this game goes into it's draw phase.  Therefore the main aim now is to get 9 down before the game reaches the inevitable draw now.

Ramprakash goes to 50 off 140 balls with 7 fours at 132.  Ian is not exactly causing problems on this 'minefield' and they all troop off for lunch with 135 up but no more wickets down.

Peter Trego opens at the OP after lunch and Ian continues at the River end around the wicket to Afzaal and looking a little more menacing fromthat angle with Peter Trego close at silly mid off with James H still in the helmet on the leg side..  But there is very little change other than the personnel.  The Surrey men are not going to hit anything they don't have to and they are quite happy to stay on 136 for the rest of the afternoon rather than take a risk.

Up comes the 150 off the bat of Ramprakash from a ball from Ian in the 59th.  It takes their parternship to 90.and then past 100 in the 62nd.  The only thing now pending in this game is the obligatory Ramps century.  Bonus points loo a long way for both sides unless these two decide to have a belt once the game is safe (and we must be getting there now).

Tea arrives with the visitors 2 more wickets down but a couple of runs from saving the follow on.  They'll pack it in at 5 one would expect and we may get another point but it looks highly doubtful that they will get to 400 or that we will get 9 wickets.

Ramps hit his 100 off loads of balls with 14 fours.  Afzaal got his 50 off loadsa balls as well and Caddick made Spriegel look like a rabbit. he's bouncing all over the place, diving to save runs and bowling like we haven't seen him this season.  All in a lost cause unfortunately.

I'm on my way home so fill in the rest of the gaps yerselves people.

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Surrey "One Dayer"
Posted by: Grockles.com (IP Logged)
Date: 15/08/2008 09:37

Surrey "One Dayer"

CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 11/08/2008 08:29

So.. what team for Surrey?

Some, on here, have been questioning AC’s place.

I would say – and I expect Mr Rose to share this view – that the thing with AC is that he always requires lots of bowling to get into synch. Therefore, it’s not simply a case of comparing his performances with those of others because we have to take into account that with a bit more bowling under his belt, everything may suddenly slip into gear and he may suddenly be our best bowler again. For this reason, I expect him to be persisted with and I think that decision would be the correct one.

Of course, he could play second XI, I suppose, but the danger there is that he takes many wickets without needing to bowl that well and does not get as long a bowl as he’s likely to get on our track against Surrey.

The main question surrounding the side for Surrey is likely to revolve around the balance of the side. I wonder whether Pete Trego has some kind of injury? Why else would he not have played yesterday?

Even if Pete is fit, the powers that be may want to restore the balance of the side to where it was before Neil Edwards disappeared from view? Neil himself might be able to return if things are behind him? If not, then Wes or Arul might come into contention?

As for Ian’s place?

One suspects that the powers-that-be would like to drop him. Unfortunately for them, that would require them to find not one, but two players to replace him – one to do the batting role, another to be the main spinner. The powers that be might, possibly, think Arul could do both jobs but I’ve never seen any sign that Arul is anything more than a ‘dart,’ bowler with very little guile. I don’t think, for one minute, that he is capable of bowling like Ian did in the 2nd innings at Horsham, for instance.

Now, if they are suitably encouraged with Michael Munday’s second-innings haul the other day, then maybe they might want to play him? In which case they could swap Wes or Arul AND MKM for Ian and sacrifice a seamer. Of course, MKM is hardly a reliable bowling option, in the Ian mould, either but at least he is an attacking spin option, unlike Arul. However, I think the forecast might make this option somewhat unlikely.

Surrey without the fringe on top
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 11/08/2008 07:34

The word on the circuit is that Surrey are parting company with coach Alan Butcher at the end of the season, and members are now pressing for his son Mark to go as well.

Could be a good time to play them this week - if the weather allows us on the pitch.

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 11/08/2008 16:54


Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 11/08/2008 18:21

Weather forecast not very good for the rest of the week especially tomorrow.

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: Palairet (IP Logged)
Date: 11/08/2008 18:53

Thank you Bristol Rob, but I shall await an official report from the meteorological station, which is based in the capital of West Somerset, before deciding whether or not to make the pilgrimage to the County Ground.

I hope you are feeling well, Big Jim.

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 11/08/2008 19:10

I think he's out collecting seaweed!
The forecast I saw was Richard Angwin on BBC News.

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 11/08/2008 19:32

Thanks for asking Palairet,I'm going a very odd colour but am otherwise fine.
Strangely Rob I was picking up some seaweed with my crutches today.
My neice is terrified of the stuff and was refusing to paddle unless I removed the offending weed.
And to think the Welsh boil it up and it eat.
Lovely with bacon.

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: MisterMurph (IP Logged)
Date: 11/08/2008 19:43

Not just the Welsh - used to sell washing up bowls full of the stuff from our butchers in North Devon.

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 11/08/2008 19:44

Strange lot the Welsh.

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 07:52

Andy Hurry says we may play two spinners against Surrey. Seems a little unlikely given the overhead conditions.

Wes Durston, Ben Phillips and Neil Edwards added to the team that played Nottinghamshire in the championship.

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 08:29

How has Tuesday dawned down there today, chaps? Is it sunny (as it is in Swindon), or was there so much overnight rain there's no chance of a start any time soon?

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 08:33

Does anyone else think that continuing to pick a team (as per ECB reports) that has an extra bowler, rather than batsmen, in conditions that are liable to heavily favour the ball, is at least somewhat perverse?

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 08:51

It is sunny here though it has been very very wet.
We've got some rather nasty stuff moving up the channel and heading towards Bicknoller and the Quantocks.
From there it can be watched on its merry way by others.
Big Jim,your coastal correspondent,on the edge of insanity.

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 09:02

Heavy rain here all night but sunny now.If we were playing here it would be a delayed start.

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 09:05

The view from the Huish web-cam looks relatively promising.

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 09:09

Contrary to any ECB report, Somerset have added two extra batsmen to the squad in Neil Edwards and Wes Durston and a potential all-rounder in Ben Phillips.

It seems that whether any of them will play will depend on weather conditions - if there is a delay, you don`t have to name your team until the toss.

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 09:10

It has really filled in since my last post and it is about to start raining.
The cloud is moving over the Quantocks in the direction of Taunton.
It does not look at all good.

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 09:40

Heavy rain here.

We're off to Cornwall until Thursday so you'll have amuse yourselves with the weather I'm afraid. Doesn't bother us - a wetsuit is wet and spending this evening at Jamie's Fifteen place so I hope it dries out for you lot and you see some in the next couple of days.

Back in the saddle on Thursday.

(Sm72)

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: Ww (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 09:43

Surrey win the toss and bat.

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 09:43

Yes - the forecast, for the whole country was heavy rain - followed by sunshine, followed by heavy showers.

In London, we're in the sunshine window so, with the weather pouring in from the West, I'd guess Taunton will already be in the 'heavy showers,' window?

Or is it worse than that, is it set-in general, heavy rain?

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 09:46

Forecast for tomorrow is appalling. For the next day, not good either.

Only hope is to bat on Friday and exploit a poor Surrey attack to get as many bonus points as possible, I'd guess.

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 09:50

Starting at 11.00

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 09:53

It has been a very bright morning at TA1 but there was about an inch of rain last night.

As 11:00am approaches the clouds are beginning to build.

Maybe it will be Willo weather although humidity doesn't seem too high just at the moment.

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: Ww (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 10:01

Sky Sports News said surrey won the toss and would bat, but Cricinfo says they won and would field?

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 10:03

Lost the goddman toss and will have to bat in the inclement weather yet again. I hope we plumped for the extra batsmen, from those in the squad!

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 10:04

Think Cricinfo are right they have JL and Banger batting.

7 off 4 deliveries from Pedro

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 10:05

If Jonah has been dropped (as opposed to being injured) then I do NOT agree with the move to pick Phillips in his stead (as per the team listed on the Beeb.) According to the Beeb, Phillips for Jonah is the only change. Unless there's an injury, it's mystifying?

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: Ww (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 10:06

11 from 1.1 overs.

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 10:07

INterestingly, Surrey have also gone with a "max bowling," less batting type of line-up with all of Nicholson, Jordan, Dernach, Collins and Saqlain selected. Although Nicholson has batted well for them, at times, in the past.

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: Ww (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 10:08

22 from 11 deliveries...

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: Ww (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 10:13

32 from 3 overs...

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 10:19

Is this a 20-20 game?

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 10:21

Don't think so Wurzel not there.Lots of rain has stopped play.

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 10:25

Yep - raining in TA1 at moment.

Some blue sky over the Blackdowns tho'

A day of off and on....

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 11:32

Any news from the front? any sign of it drying out?

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 11:37

Good strong sun at the moment...

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 12:34

raining again, now, or do we reckon they're still mopping up?

Lancs - Yorks is gone for the day and, to judge by their forecast, the entire match may be in peril.

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 12:54

Ben Phillips got the key wicket of Ramps when we bowled Surrey out for 227 in their second dig in our victory at Whitgift School in May, AG.

Let us hope he can do so again.

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 13:12

Let's hope it won't be today, though!

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 13:49

It doesn't sound too good at the moment.Covers are going back on and it's very dark overhead.

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 14:01

cjm - unless Jonah is injured, then I don't think that one wicket that Ben took in May should be that relevant?

The bottom line should surely be that Jonah has had two match-winning type 5 wicket in an innings efforts (both vs Kent) and Ben hasn't had any?

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: Nailsea_Fizz (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 14:38

Is there any prospect of play or can i give up checking?

the suns out in Bristol

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 14:46

Huish cam again looks good, but has done for much of the day..

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 15:24

They've restarted!!!

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 15:25

Beat me to it!

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 15:31

Come on, let's keep those skies blue for the rest of the day and press on where Durham and Notts have been washed out.

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 15:33

severe weather warnings in place for the NE both today and tomorrow.

It looks like a two day game, at best, at Chester LS.

One imagines it will be low-scoring (denying both teams batting points) but hopefully it won't be so low-scoring that there will be a result...

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 15:56

I was, hitherto, unaware that David Millns was now a first-class umpire.

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 15:59

Pay attention at the back of the class!!
It's been mentioned on these pages before, AG.
winking smiley

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: fRed (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 16:25

Sigh.

This is going to be one of those declare on 400 games.

Cricket's the winner.

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 16:26

Let's hope so, fRed.
Don't forget that's the umpteenth 50 since the last ton.
400 is still a way off.

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 16:43

Very warm and sunny in bonny little Watchet by the sea(or river just for Grockle)
Did anybody else know that David Millns was now a first-class umpire?
Good start.
Keep it up.
As it were.

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 16:57

David Millns is on the umpire`s reserve list, but is probably in line to take Barry Leadbeater`s place when he retires at the end of the season.

He umpired the Glo`shire II v Somerset II match at Bristol last week.

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 19:37

Talking of umpires I can't praise ours enough.

We were criticising the umpires in the previous match for disappearing into their dressing room during rain.

Today's umpires on the first stoppage did not leave the field but was on the boundary edge waiting to see what would happen.

At the 4 o/clock inspection because the sun was out they were out on the playing area at 3.50 doing their inspection.

And there was none of this shouting out from the balcony they went out onto the grass to speak to the ground staff.

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Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 20:17

Those of us who believe that the current Somerset cricketing glass is half full (third in Division One in both current competitions and within a win of the top in both) have taken some stick of late for questioning those posters who regularly see it as half empty - or at least half full but in danger of what liquid there is draining out.

Forty-eight hours ago I thought `It could be they are right, and I won`t mention it again - at least not on site`. As Grockle so correctly points out, this is a forum for varied opinion anyway.

But one post today has really got up my nose - to use a rather vulgar expression.

Take today`s scenario - we lose the toss and are inserted in bowler-friendly weather conditions, yet in two brief period of play, adding up to 21 overs, we score at more than five an over against two international bowlers in Collins and Nicholson.

Justin Langer collects 55 of 68 balls at a strike rate of over 80, and Marcus hits ten fours in 46 off 65 balls, at a 70-plus strike rate.

Yet all we get is: `Don`t forget that`s the umpteenth 50 since the last ton.`

True, true, true, as the half-empty contingent have pointed on more than a few occasions. But was today really the day to say it yet again?

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 20:25

Fair point, cjm, but don't forget that every true cricket fan fears the worst (the five-wicket collapse, the dropped sitter, the ninth-wicket century partnership that rescues the opposition) in the hope that the worst won't happen and we can feel better about our team.

It's not the fear that kills you, it's the hope.

[...and I suspect that FE was being ironic at AG's expense]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:08:12:20:28:11 by SheptonPaul.

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 20:32

Thank you for spotting that, SP.
I really must try and be less subtle! (Sm56)

Re: CC team vs Surrey?
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 12/08/2008 21:04

Some batting shots from our two openers today.

Justin Langer batted the best I have seen him all season timing the ball as good as Marcus.

Let’s hope it continues.

No comment just the names.

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Marcus Trescothick

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Marcus Trescothick

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Justin Langer