Didn't do Wes any good!!
Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Didn't do Wes any good!!
By Grockle
February 9 2010
The Grockles website is going into the sponsorship business for the second year running. We are presently looking to collect contirbutions form members to put into supporting one of the local players looking to make their way in the Somerset first team. But is the Grockles sponsorship desired by the players? Or is it seen as being the man picked to be on the front of Playfair?
Didn't do Wes any good!!
February 9 2010
The Grockles website is going into the sponsorship business for the second year running. We are presently looking to collect contirbutions form members to put into supporting one of the local players looking to make their way in the Somerset first team. But is the Grockles sponsorship desired by the players? Or is it seen as being the man picked to be on the front of Playfair?
Last year Grockles.com invested in two player sponsorship deals with the club.
Our two sponsorees for the 2009 season were WES DURSTON (now no longer with the club after a very impressive end to his Somerset career in the Indian Champions League as the most potent batsman we had) he was joined by MARK TURNER the young paceman who was dogged with injury during the season and never really got into the swing of first team work due to niggling problems with his back.
Who would be a "Grocklee" (sponsored player)? Will the player we choose to support actually get a season? Past history suggests not...and we were hoping for enough money to put ourselves behind PETER TREGO this year in the hope of basking in his move into international cricket with the England setup.
It may neot be a problem anyway because present levels of interst suggest that there will be no sponsored player this year!!
If you are interested in putting your name and money behind a player, then please contact me by Private message with your interst and a suggested level of contribution. The amount of money pledged is really not important. I would rather have many supporters involved each pledging a fiver than a small number giving £50 quid each. Presently we have about £200 of the minimum £350 required to express an interest. Last year we put together two sponsorship packages with about £500 put into the kitty. It gives us advertising space in the club publications AND a small pot of free tickets for Grockles who may need some supprot to watch a game or two at the ground.
Please let me know before the end of this month if you are interested. tghe sooner I know, the sooner I can express and interest and the larger the group of players we can choose from.
IF YOU WANT TRIGGER THEN SOONER IS REALLY MUCH BETTER THAN LATER
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Date: 09/02/2010 14:34
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Trigger a long way off
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 17/01/2010 06:02
Grockle are we planning to sponsor playing member(s)this season?If we were to get in early then our chances of more established players will be better, although after last season's selections I expect they would be reluctant to be sponsored by Grockles.com.
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Re: Player sponsorship
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 17/01/2010 08:01
Kiss of death????
Re: Player sponsorship
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 17/01/2010 10:32
Shall we sponsor some Durham bowlers this year,if that is the case?
Trego for England
Trego for England
Re: Player sponsorship
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 17/01/2010 11:49
Not that left arm middle order batsman?
Re: Player sponsorship
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 17/01/2010 11:55
Poor chap,if he's only got the one arm we don't want to burden him with our problems.
Trego for England
Trego for England
Re: Player sponsorship
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 17/01/2010 12:03
He's completley armless despite the bthoughts of some.
Re: Player sponsorship
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 17/01/2010 16:37
Yep I was starting to think about this this weekend. Can people let me know if they are interested by PM so I can gauge a kind of level of sponsorship possible. We sponsored 2 players at £250 each last year (Wes and Mark T). Let me know if you would like to go for quantity or quality and how much you would be willing to stick in the pot.
I'll contact the club and see when the thing starts this year.
I'll contact the club and see when the thing starts this year.
Re: Player sponsorship
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 17/01/2010 19:52
Ever wary of the "kiss-of-death" possibility coming true, I would suggest that the current poll inidicates that Compton, Kieswetter or Trego should be the main runners for sponsorship. CK and PT may be already snapped up, or expensive, but our new number 3 may be worth a punt?
Re: Player sponsorship
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 18/01/2010 10:06
Personally, I'd most like to sponsor Max Waller.
Re: Player sponsorship
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 18/01/2010 10:57
As you well know, AGod, I always agree with you; this is one of those occasions.
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Player sponsorship
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/01/2010 23:25
The arrangements for this season seem the same as last year except the starting prices seem to have increased!
The first level of players starts at £350 plus VAT which means just over £400
We raised just under £500 last year to sponsor Wes and Mark T.
I'm happy to start a sponsorship fund now to give us the widest choice possible but presently the response would bring us in about £100.
If people want to contribute then cheques to "Paul Bird" can be held and only cashed if enough is raised or destroyed if we don't get there I suppose.
Anyway the option is open to people. If I get contributions then I'll open a fund and report back on how it is going.
The first level of players starts at £350 plus VAT which means just over £400
We raised just under £500 last year to sponsor Wes and Mark T.
I'm happy to start a sponsorship fund now to give us the widest choice possible but presently the response would bring us in about £100.
If people want to contribute then cheques to "Paul Bird" can be held and only cashed if enough is raised or destroyed if we don't get there I suppose.
Anyway the option is open to people. If I get contributions then I'll open a fund and report back on how it is going.
Re: Player sponsorship
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 30/01/2010 10:08
I'm certainly interested in participaing, but do we know which player we'll be supporting yet?
I'd opt for Waller if possible.
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
I'd opt for Waller if possible.
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Player sponsorship
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 30/01/2010 10:43
I will participate but have not sent a PM to Grockle until I decide how much I can part with.
The bills are still coming in!
The bills are still coming in!
Re: Player sponsorship
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 30/01/2010 12:28
The boat obviously contains Mike and me; I imagine there are few others who'd like to join us.
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Player sponsorship
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 30/01/2010 12:51
We can't really decide on who until we have hit the first boundary. Max would probably be in that group. Last year we started late and didn't have a great deal of choice if we can get things moving earlier this year we might have a better chance at a bigger fish.
I would suggest that people PM me with an interst and I'll PM back with the address to send stuff to. It's not the size of contribution, it's the number of contributors to be honest. 40 of us at a tenner each gets us into the game and there are over 4000 unique URLs on this site each month.
Wonder who we could get for £40K?
I would suggest that people PM me with an interst and I'll PM back with the address to send stuff to. It's not the size of contribution, it's the number of contributors to be honest. 40 of us at a tenner each gets us into the game and there are over 4000 unique URLs on this site each month.
Wonder who we could get for £40K?
Re: Player sponsorship
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 30/01/2010 12:56
Half of BJ? (which, I dread to think)
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Player sponsorship
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 30/01/2010 13:05
PM sent.
I only said that to encourage others to do the same.
I only said that to encourage others to do the same.
Re: Player sponsorship
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 30/01/2010 13:12
Ditto
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Player sponsorship
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 30/01/2010 13:58
At this very time,some 361 years ago,CharlesI was being executed.
An event that changed this country.
I'll never forgive that Oliver Cromwell for what he did afterwards.
Now then.
Sponsorship?
Let me have a think.
Trego for England
An event that changed this country.
I'll never forgive that Oliver Cromwell for what he did afterwards.
Now then.
Sponsorship?
Let me have a think.
Trego for England
Re: Player sponsorship
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 30/01/2010 14:42
Careful BJ, no good will become of it.
Re: Player sponsorship
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 30/01/2010 17:46
I had previously PM'd Grockle to say 'Im in'.
Re: Player sponsorship
Posted by: WTE (IP Logged)
Date: 31/01/2010 08:12
Me too or should it be I also. Plus a contribution for my niece / second cousin who wants a "cute one"
Re: Player sponsorship
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 01/02/2010 18:26
Updated info about the sponsorship.
Two levels of fee
£350 and £500 per player
Unfortunately Marcus (500) and Chris Jones and Max Waller (sorry LoL) have already gone. But everyone else is there and there are some good bargains available. Compton being one of them (£350).
I'm going to put a poll up for a choice and ask people to commit as soon as they can please before the big push starts.
Two levels of fee
£350 and £500 per player
Unfortunately Marcus (500) and Chris Jones and Max Waller (sorry LoL) have already gone. But everyone else is there and there are some good bargains available. Compton being one of them (£350).
I'm going to put a poll up for a choice and ask people to commit as soon as they can please before the big push starts.
Re: Trigger a long way off
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 06/02/2010 00:33
I've not been in touch with you guys who have PM'd me regarding sponsorship because to be honest the response has been so lukewarm that it seems pointless.
Thanks to those who have let me know they would be in and for their generous offers of money to help the fund along but there is little sense in letting you know where to send it because if the present level of pledges is what we have to work with then there will be no Grockles sponsorship this year.
If Peter Trego is the preferred sponsoree of the site then I need at least as many pledges again as I presently have before I can even start to negotiate that possibility. I'll leave it on hold until the end of February and will take any offer of a contribution no matter how small but presently it looks doubtful that we will "Grockle" any player this year
Thanks to those who have let me know they would be in and for their generous offers of money to help the fund along but there is little sense in letting you know where to send it because if the present level of pledges is what we have to work with then there will be no Grockles sponsorship this year.
If Peter Trego is the preferred sponsoree of the site then I need at least as many pledges again as I presently have before I can even start to negotiate that possibility. I'll leave it on hold until the end of February and will take any offer of a contribution no matter how small but presently it looks doubtful that we will "Grockle" any player this year
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: VictheFish (IP Logged)
Date: 10/02/2010 00:02
If it's Pete then I'll go for £50.00.
Summon up your courage other Grockles, and nail your various bids to the sticking post.
We talk for various reaons, let's 'do' for a change!
Apologies for the public eviseration of the Macbeth quote and the public 'encouragement' for monetary support.
Get off yer ar ses ...
VtF.
Summon up your courage other Grockles, and nail your various bids to the sticking post.
We talk for various reaons, let's 'do' for a change!
Apologies for the public eviseration of the Macbeth quote and the public 'encouragement' for monetary support.
Get off yer ar ses ...
VtF.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 10/02/2010 01:51
Have you had a good bet come in,Vic?
That Mr Buckler has been in great form.
I sense a treble.
Sense it I tell you.
Trego for England
That Mr Buckler has been in great form.
I sense a treble.
Sense it I tell you.
Trego for England
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/02/2010 09:42
I'll match Vic's pledge.
I don't think we necessarily need x number of sponsors all putting forward the same sum.
By this I mean that whilst 10 pledges of £50 should get us home as far as Pete is concerned, so would 5 pledges of £50 and 10 of £25 (or whatever other permutations one could come up with.)
I do have to say that I imagine that Pete will get snapped up pretty quickly, though, so I'd urge folks not to deliberate for long...
I don't think we necessarily need x number of sponsors all putting forward the same sum.
By this I mean that whilst 10 pledges of £50 should get us home as far as Pete is concerned, so would 5 pledges of £50 and 10 of £25 (or whatever other permutations one could come up with.)
I do have to say that I imagine that Pete will get snapped up pretty quickly, though, so I'd urge folks not to deliberate for long...
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 10/02/2010 09:54
I feel that Pete will be snapped-up by a corporate sponsor being an England player; it would be good advertisement for the company.
But who knows if we can get enough and get in quick.
But who knows if we can get enough and get in quick.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 10/02/2010 10:33
I'll do a £25.
SJB
SJB
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 10/02/2010 10:58
I've let the boss man know how much I'm in for.(a gambler never lets on his liabilities you see.Or even it's because I'm a tight old thing)
Trego for England
Trego for England
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 10/02/2010 11:12
Quite right Jim, I PM my amount to Grockle I didn't want everybody to know I am in for £200
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 10/02/2010 11:22
Only £200,Mike?
I knew there weere some Scrooges out there but this takes the biscuit.
Now we know where it went,Both.
I bet he had the coffee as well.
Trego for England
I knew there weere some Scrooges out there but this takes the biscuit.
Now we know where it went,Both.
I bet he had the coffee as well.
Trego for England
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 10/02/2010 13:08
I saw him roung the back of Morrisons trading those biscuits for a new camera. God job I'm not a sneak.
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: PaddedUp (IP Logged)
Date: 10/02/2010 23:08
PM sent also.
But like The Gambler, I never count my money when I'm sitting at the table. There'll be time enough for counting when the dealing's done.
Cracking work from Pete with the Lions - let's go for gold and sponsor him!
But like The Gambler, I never count my money when I'm sitting at the table. There'll be time enough for counting when the dealing's done.
Cracking work from Pete with the Lions - let's go for gold and sponsor him!
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 11/02/2010 00:48
Thanks for the other offers guys and gals. Unotunately that still leaves us shy of the lower figure by about 20% and nowhere near the half a grand target for the likes of PT.
Better consider the £350 possibilities people.
Better consider the £350 possibilities people.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 11/02/2010 13:44
Just curious, Grockle, but are the players more expensive this season or is it simply that you have far fewer offers?
I wonder if last season's experience with "our," guys not being given much of a chance has put some folks off?
I wonder if last season's experience with "our," guys not being given much of a chance has put some folks off?
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 11/02/2010 17:40
The starting point is £100 higher AG but there arte fewer offers at present as well. Tight times I think. That's why I personally would like more smaller bids so the sponsoree is supported by a larger group and is even more part of the Grockles site.
Maybe that's not to be - it could also be that we are looking to get involved a couple of months earlier than we did last week and people aren't in cricket mode yet.
Maybe that's not to be - it could also be that we are looking to get involved a couple of months earlier than we did last week and people aren't in cricket mode yet.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/02/2010 13:33
Yes, your final point certainly occurred to me, too.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 12/02/2010 20:47
Perhaps in light of today's events we could sponsor a groundsperson or even Mr Rose himself?
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 13/02/2010 13:51
Message received and understood Grockle.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 13/02/2010 13:54
OK then people.
I have sent PM's to all those who have suggested they will pledge. I appreciate that some of those are Trego related but we have to at least get the ball rolling.
If there are others that want to get involved and haven't yet said so. You will need details of where to send bits of paper so either PM me or e-mail (Grocklemail at the top of the page) for address details.
I'll keep you abreast of progress but presently no cheques will be cashed unless there is more involvement I'm afraid.
Thnaks to all those who already have. Much Appreciated
I have sent PM's to all those who have suggested they will pledge. I appreciate that some of those are Trego related but we have to at least get the ball rolling.
If there are others that want to get involved and haven't yet said so. You will need details of where to send bits of paper so either PM me or e-mail (Grocklemail at the top of the page) for address details.
I'll keep you abreast of progress but presently no cheques will be cashed unless there is more involvement I'm afraid.
Thnaks to all those who already have. Much Appreciated
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 13/02/2010 14:25
42 people have voted on the poll so let's hope each of them makes a contribution.
The result of the poll is interesting too.
Come on people.Time to tip your settee up and see how much spare cash you've got.
I've made my contribution Have you??????
The result of the poll is interesting too.
Come on people.Time to tip your settee up and see how much spare cash you've got.
I've made my contribution Have you??????
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2010 12:47
It certainly is 'interesting,' BR.
Shocking, almost, I would say.
Perhaps most of the 18 people that voted for Dibble know something that I do not about his prospects of any kind of regular first-team cricket?
Or perhaps folks are not bothered about that factor?
Shocking, almost, I would say.
Perhaps most of the 18 people that voted for Dibble know something that I do not about his prospects of any kind of regular first-team cricket?
Or perhaps folks are not bothered about that factor?
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2010 21:22
I haven't received a PM yet Grockle.
Just saying,like.
Not saying that I was putting a huge wad in,but as our friends at Tesco say,every little helps.
What or who it helps I'm not sure.
But that.
Is another matter.
Trego for England
Just saying,like.
Not saying that I was putting a huge wad in,but as our friends at Tesco say,every little helps.
What or who it helps I'm not sure.
But that.
Is another matter.
Trego for England
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2010 21:50
Well it went to you BJ - it accepted your name and supposedly sent it
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2010 22:01
FE?
How did we sort this out again?
Trego for England
How did we sort this out again?
Trego for England
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 15/02/2010 22:10
Just click on "Big Jim" on your post above and then on "Send Private Message" that works for me.
I expect there are other ways.
I expect there are other ways.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 16/02/2010 09:33
Mike's method will work perfectly well.
If you type "Big Jim" into the PM it will appear to work, but won't get to Jim.
If you type the name, you have to use Jim's original Grockle's nom de plume.
If you type "Big Jim" into the PM it will appear to work, but won't get to Jim.
If you type the name, you have to use Jim's original Grockle's nom de plume.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 16/02/2010 11:10
Yep and I can't remember that so the other way is easier.
Sorted thanks Mike
Sorted thanks Mike
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 16/02/2010 11:34
You are welcome.
I was in the middle of making the cheque out when I read that, in the post today.
I was in the middle of making the cheque out when I read that, in the post today.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 16/02/2010 12:52
irst contribution arrived this morning. Will know more by the end of the week with luck.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 16/02/2010 22:42
Mine's in the post, honest, guv. Sorry I'm not an estate agent from Cirencester.
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 19/02/2010 16:37
Many Thanks to the 9 individuals I have presently received donations from. The total presently stands about £125 short of the first hurdle (and that includes a donation that needs to be put towards a first team player). It isn't looking hopeful but I am hoping for a little more to arrive over the weekend.
As I said last week. I will cash no cheques until we have a target and have agreed to use it in a way agreeable to all. I will contact Cheryl at the ground and see what the present situation is regarding players available.
But at the moment unless we get more people putting their hands in their pockets we will be absent from the sponsors table this year.
No minimum donation (no maximum for that matter). Anything gratefully received and put into the pot.
As I said last week. I will cash no cheques until we have a target and have agreed to use it in a way agreeable to all. I will contact Cheryl at the ground and see what the present situation is regarding players available.
But at the moment unless we get more people putting their hands in their pockets we will be absent from the sponsors table this year.
No minimum donation (no maximum for that matter). Anything gratefully received and put into the pot.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 19/02/2010 17:11
Cummon Guys - if only 5 more of you promise £25 each we will be 'on the table'.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 24/02/2010 00:58
Update time people.
No new funds forthcoming in the last few days though I do have one new promise that will take us under the £100 mark away from the lower £350 target.
A couple of offers haven't turned into anything at the moment so if you haven't sent money you intend to donatte can I please ask you to let me know one way or the other as soon as. PLUS if there is anyone else at all I need to know very soon or I'm going to pull the plug on this and destroy all the cheques I have received.
Presently No-one in the £500 section is even remotely possible and that includes Peter Trego - who has a tentative offer on him at the moment anyway according to the latest information.
As far as I can see, that leaves two possible options with the chance of regular first team in our young population.
Nick Compton
Jos Buttler
I'm going to poll people (63 voted for a sponsoree but only 10 have come forward with any offers of funding for that sponsorship)
Three options
The two possible candidates and the 'someone else' option.
We'll see what happens.
No new funds forthcoming in the last few days though I do have one new promise that will take us under the £100 mark away from the lower £350 target.
A couple of offers haven't turned into anything at the moment so if you haven't sent money you intend to donatte can I please ask you to let me know one way or the other as soon as. PLUS if there is anyone else at all I need to know very soon or I'm going to pull the plug on this and destroy all the cheques I have received.
Presently No-one in the £500 section is even remotely possible and that includes Peter Trego - who has a tentative offer on him at the moment anyway according to the latest information.
As far as I can see, that leaves two possible options with the chance of regular first team in our young population.
Nick Compton
Jos Buttler
I'm going to poll people (63 voted for a sponsoree but only 10 have come forward with any offers of funding for that sponsorship)
Three options
The two possible candidates and the 'someone else' option.
We'll see what happens.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: WTE (IP Logged)
Date: 24/02/2010 07:59
I'm doing it now...
The cheques in the post...
....
Well it might be by the weekend.
The cheques in the post...
....
Well it might be by the weekend.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 24/02/2010 10:20
I have been very tardy, Grockle, for which many apologies.
I put the cheque in the post on the way home from work yesterday. I'd guess you should have it by Friday at the latest, if not tomorrow.
I put the cheque in the post on the way home from work yesterday. I'd guess you should have it by Friday at the latest, if not tomorrow.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 24/02/2010 10:24
p.s. if we're on the 350 option, then I would probably prefer Buttler, simply because I think he is likely to be a regular in all forms of the game.
I really cannot see Prior holding off Craig for very long, even in the Tests. Prior's keeping has improved but I don't know that it's any better than Craig's. And Prior's improvement in his keeping seems to have come about as a result of intensive work on it, with the result that his batting is perhaps not quite the force that it was.
I believe that Craig has enough ability to bat regularly at five or even four for England. He is much, much sounder in defence than Prior. And he is at least Prior's equal in attack.
I predict a strong series for Craig in the one-day games vs Bangladesh, followed by T20 World Cup selection and him making such a favourable impression in these events that Prior will not be able to hold him off.
I really cannot see Prior holding off Craig for very long, even in the Tests. Prior's keeping has improved but I don't know that it's any better than Craig's. And Prior's improvement in his keeping seems to have come about as a result of intensive work on it, with the result that his batting is perhaps not quite the force that it was.
I believe that Craig has enough ability to bat regularly at five or even four for England. He is much, much sounder in defence than Prior. And he is at least Prior's equal in attack.
I predict a strong series for Craig in the one-day games vs Bangladesh, followed by T20 World Cup selection and him making such a favourable impression in these events that Prior will not be able to hold him off.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 24/02/2010 11:32
Grockle: I've complained to the bullying hot line that you haven't been bullying us enough. Next time you see BJ's lapels, grab them for me, please.
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Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 24/02/2010 16:24
You are surely not suggesting that Grockle should PM BJ.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 24/02/2010 17:00
The PM would GBH BJ.
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Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 24/02/2010 17:01
I hope the Grockle bully line is a little more reliable than the one set up by Lord Snooty and his chums.
What an own goal that was.
Trego for England
What an own goal that was.
Trego for England
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 24/02/2010 17:02
I've been meaning to say for weeks that I don't want to sponsor either Curse or Boon.
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Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 24/02/2010 17:04
"Lord Snooty"? That's no way to speak about Saint Dave, the only British politician to have his own comedy TV channel.
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Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 24/02/2010 17:07
Toff TV?
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Trego for England
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 25/02/2010 15:10
"I hope the Grockle bully line is a little more reliable than the one set up by Lord Snooty and his chums.
What an own goal that was."
Shurely Shome Mishtake.
I hope you are not suggesting that the moon-faced second-hand car salesman was behind this story. Next thing you'll be telling me that they are telling fibs in their manifesto..
What an own goal that was."
Shurely Shome Mishtake.
I hope you are not suggesting that the moon-faced second-hand car salesman was behind this story. Next thing you'll be telling me that they are telling fibs in their manifesto..
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 25/02/2010 15:25
Have they got a manifesto yet?
I thought they'd borrowed a copy of the Dandy from the newsagents.
They'd even argue over that.
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I thought they'd borrowed a copy of the Dandy from the newsagents.
They'd even argue over that.
Trego for England
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 25/02/2010 16:55
Quite right, too. It needs argument.
Any thinking person would base a manifesto on the Beano.
Any thinking person would base a manifesto on the Beano.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 25/02/2010 17:17
Dandy.
Every time.
Lord Snooty says so.
So there.
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Every time.
Lord Snooty says so.
So there.
Trego for England
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 25/02/2010 20:34
I'd forgotten Desperate Dan, so maybe the Dandy has it... the Dandy has it.
Order, order.
Order, order.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 25/02/2010 22:36
Bring back Denis "The Menace" Healey!
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 26/02/2010 07:36
Despite the fact that he is now 92, they did bring Denis Healey back yesterday as a contributor to the BBC series 'The Great Offices of State'. The final one yesterday was about the Treasury and the job of Chancellor of the Exchequer.
Healey was still very much with it, making one or two pertinent comments about the Civil Service.
A great series for those of us who feel that 'Yes, Minister' and 'Yes, Prime Minister' were (are) the best-ever comedy programmes. Real life seems to have been almost identical.
Healey was still very much with it, making one or two pertinent comments about the Civil Service.
A great series for those of us who feel that 'Yes, Minister' and 'Yes, Prime Minister' were (are) the best-ever comedy programmes. Real life seems to have been almost identical.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 26/02/2010 09:53
Do you like "The thick of it," Bobstan, or is it a little too obvious? Certainly does not contain the devious machinations of Sir Humphrey.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 26/02/2010 10:26
Oh dear, AG. Have I missed something worthwhile?
Never seen it.
Never seen it.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 26/02/2010 10:30
It's a Beeb Two series. The star of it is a guy that is, basically, a very thinly disguised parody of Alistair Campbell. The focus of it is, a little more, on the "spin," side of politics, but it's basically a pretty decent and funny political satire which, nevertheless, lacks the verbal subtlety of YPM or YM. There was also a film version at the cinema which I saw.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 26/02/2010 10:38
Might be worth a try, although I have very little time for Campbell or his master - or do I mean poodle.
Perhaps that may be an advantage for watching 'The thick of it'.
Perhaps that may be an advantage for watching 'The thick of it'.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 26/02/2010 11:45
I gave up on it after seeing the dreadful Richard Bacon feature in an episode.
Not a bad show though,worth watching in the main.
Unless that idiot crops up again.
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Not a bad show though,worth watching in the main.
Unless that idiot crops up again.
Trego for England
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 26/02/2010 11:51
My brief viewing of the programme suggested to me that the dialogue was largely propelled by obscenities - quite unlike the wonderfully subtle language of Sir Humphrey. However, I'm no expert on television these days, though I hear that Crossroads is popular.
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Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 26/02/2010 11:52
If you mean Campbell's erstwhile master/poodle, then I bet I have even less time for him than you do, BobStan!
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 26/02/2010 12:10
It's the modern way,LoL.
Now then,when are you going to ******* well send me those ******* books you *******promised me?
It's not ******* well on you know.
Trego for England
Now then,when are you going to ******* well send me those ******* books you *******promised me?
It's not ******* well on you know.
Trego for England
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 26/02/2010 12:15
Well, LoL, as I say, the lead character is a parody of Campbell and I strongly suspect that, like YPM and YM, there are strong parallels between fiction and fact.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 26/02/2010 12:20
Sadly, you are almost certainly right.
Edited to remove a BJwards rudery that had been there long enough.
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Edited to remove a BJwards rudery that had been there long enough.
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Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 26/02/2010 12:29
I note that today's Torygraph is displaying a poll about voting intentions amongst those "certain to vote."
This gives Lord Snooty a five point lead. According to the paper,if this were replicated across all of those who do actually vote, this would translate into Lord Snooty winning fewer seats than Gordon Brown.
I would suggest that such an outcome might possibly lead to Lord Snooty being forced to walk the plank.
This gives Lord Snooty a five point lead. According to the paper,if this were replicated across all of those who do actually vote, this would translate into Lord Snooty winning fewer seats than Gordon Brown.
I would suggest that such an outcome might possibly lead to Lord Snooty being forced to walk the plank.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 26/02/2010 12:50
Have you seen the revelations that Cameron has an "explosive temper,not unlike Brown's" or so "insiders" would have us believe?
What a mess.
What is politics coming to?
I'm sure the cast of Yes Prime Minister could do a better job than this lot.
I'm sure the cast of Crossroads could do a better job than this lot.
Trego for England
What a mess.
What is politics coming to?
I'm sure the cast of Yes Prime Minister could do a better job than this lot.
I'm sure the cast of Crossroads could do a better job than this lot.
Trego for England
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 26/02/2010 15:43
Benny for PM !
Grizzzly
Grizzzly
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: samaithai2 (IP Logged)
Date: 26/02/2010 21:59
You think you have problems with your politicians. How about our boy Thaksin? What a star. Rob the rich to get the poor on his side. Samai will be wearing her red shirt as she thinks the sun shines from his er.
The fun will start tomorrow. The tanks will be back in bangers. Never a dull moment out here.
One great quote from Thaksin. They were good enough to leave me 30 billion baht. (approx 50 baht to the pound)
The fun will start tomorrow. The tanks will be back in bangers. Never a dull moment out here.
One great quote from Thaksin. They were good enough to leave me 30 billion baht. (approx 50 baht to the pound)
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 27/02/2010 07:31
Jim, did Bacon play a character, or did he play himself?
AG, yes Blair was the master or poodle of whom I spoke. To paraphrase Ernest Bevin, that Devonian of long ago, some say that Blair was his own worst enemy. Not so long as I'm alive, he ain't.
Thanks for the programme information, folk. I think I'll stick to watching Sir Humphrey and Bernard on dvd.
AG, yes Blair was the master or poodle of whom I spoke. To paraphrase Ernest Bevin, that Devonian of long ago, some say that Blair was his own worst enemy. Not so long as I'm alive, he ain't.
Thanks for the programme information, folk. I think I'll stick to watching Sir Humphrey and Bernard on dvd.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
Date: 27/02/2010 09:37
Ernest Bevin was most certainly not a Devonian, Bobstan.
He was born in Winsford, so we Somersetians can justly call him one of our own.
There is a charming cottage in the Exmoor village, which bears a wall plaque denoting that it was the birthplace of the renowned politician.
He was born in Winsford, so we Somersetians can justly call him one of our own.
There is a charming cottage in the Exmoor village, which bears a wall plaque denoting that it was the birthplace of the renowned politician.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 27/02/2010 10:14
Wikipedia (which is not always 100% reliable) says:
Bevin was born in the village of Winsford in Somerset, England, to Diana Bevin who, since 1877, had described herself as a widow. His father is unknown. After his mother's death in 1889, the young Bevin lived with his half-sister's family, moving to Morchard Bishop in Devon.
Some of us, of course, well remember Morchard Bishop, a tearaway fast bowler who played three games for Montserrat in 1922/23.
Bevin was born in the village of Winsford in Somerset, England, to Diana Bevin who, since 1877, had described herself as a widow. His father is unknown. After his mother's death in 1889, the young Bevin lived with his half-sister's family, moving to Morchard Bishop in Devon.
Some of us, of course, well remember Morchard Bishop, a tearaway fast bowler who played three games for Montserrat in 1922/23.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 27/02/2010 11:01
He was playing himself,Bobs.
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Trego for England
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 27/02/2010 11:06
And if you can ever get to Winsford then pop into the historical pub,The Royal Oak.
Excellent food and I'm sure the beer is lovely as well.
Trego for England
Excellent food and I'm sure the beer is lovely as well.
Trego for England
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 27/02/2010 18:31
Thanks, guys.
All very interesting. I'm pleased to learn that Bevin was a Somerset man.
All very interesting. I'm pleased to learn that Bevin was a Somerset man.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Wickham (IP Logged)
Date: 28/02/2010 09:45
The great thing about YM was that it had a ring of truth (particularly if you thought of Hacker as a junior, rather than Cabinet, Minister).
While the episode when Hacker became PM was one of the best, I thought that YPM sometimes stretched credibility a little too far - which is why I preferred YM.
While the episode when Hacker became PM was one of the best, I thought that YPM sometimes stretched credibility a little too far - which is why I preferred YM.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 28/02/2010 11:11
I preferred the Young Ones.
I think it was an age thing.
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I think it was an age thing.
Trego for England
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/02/2010 13:00
Back from the Land of TV Shows I have known.
Given the present performance of one of our English internationals and the fact that we now have a glimmer of a chance that we will have enough to create a sponsored grockle of 2010 I need some indication of who it should be.
The people who have made donations obviously have a greater say but the present poll is tellking me very little seeing as how only 11 people have bothered to express an opinion.
On the basis of what I have been told by people;
a) the Grocklee should be local and young if possible
b) the Grocklee should be someone we could expect to see at Taunton playing for Somerset
at the £350 level that gives us only 2 options.
1 is Nick Compton, young but not local. Will probably be a regular in the first team however.
2 is Jos Buttler who is young and local but will only be a regular in the firsts should CK be elsewhere (he's just been stumped in Dhaka by the way).
Some have suggested other options - I can't see them myself I have to say.
The optimist in me says Jos is our choice but I defer to the requirements of the supporters who are putting up the majority of the money.
Please let me know either here or via PM. but please do it quickly because I have to make a decision quite quickly.
The alternative to these is for another bunch of sponsors to appear from nowhere it seems to provide the extra £150 notes that would open up the options of the next level of players. Though to be honest I'm not sure who would be a candidate from the more regular first team players.
Given the present performance of one of our English internationals and the fact that we now have a glimmer of a chance that we will have enough to create a sponsored grockle of 2010 I need some indication of who it should be.
The people who have made donations obviously have a greater say but the present poll is tellking me very little seeing as how only 11 people have bothered to express an opinion.
On the basis of what I have been told by people;
a) the Grocklee should be local and young if possible
b) the Grocklee should be someone we could expect to see at Taunton playing for Somerset
at the £350 level that gives us only 2 options.
1 is Nick Compton, young but not local. Will probably be a regular in the first team however.
2 is Jos Buttler who is young and local but will only be a regular in the firsts should CK be elsewhere (he's just been stumped in Dhaka by the way).
Some have suggested other options - I can't see them myself I have to say.
The optimist in me says Jos is our choice but I defer to the requirements of the supporters who are putting up the majority of the money.
Please let me know either here or via PM. but please do it quickly because I have to make a decision quite quickly.
The alternative to these is for another bunch of sponsors to appear from nowhere it seems to provide the extra £150 notes that would open up the options of the next level of players. Though to be honest I'm not sure who would be a candidate from the more regular first team players.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 28/02/2010 13:03
Of the two it would have to be Jos.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 28/02/2010 14:39
It's Jos for me.
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Trego for England
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 28/02/2010 15:09
Ditto.
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Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 28/02/2010 15:28
I duplicate the above remark.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: PaddedUp (IP Logged)
Date: 28/02/2010 22:37
I'd be delighted if we sponsored Jos
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: WTE (IP Logged)
Date: 01/03/2010 08:01
I would be happy with Jos and my young cousin (co sponsor) thinks he passes the "cute" test. Cant see it my self though.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 03/03/2010 22:15
OK I think we can go ahead (close enough) I'm going to go for Jos unless someone I get real resistance from someone in the next 24 hours. Let's hope we aren't too late.
Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 04/03/2010 10:26
I think the ayes have it. Let's celebrate for young Mr Buttler and wish him every success for 2010 and thereafter.
LoL
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Re: Sponsorship Curse or Boon?
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 04/03/2010 19:33
Jos is ours ladies and gentlemen.
Re: Mr Buttler is ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 04/03/2010 19:44
Well done Grockle, this could be the start of something big (for him).
Re: Mr Buttler is ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 04/03/2010 20:00
As i said to Cheryl. Let's hope it doesn't put the kibosh on his season and Craig's international aspirations!!
Thanks to all contributors. As I say unless I hear something drastic very soon I will confirm this sponsorship by the end of tomorrow.
Thanks to all contributors. As I say unless I hear something drastic very soon I will confirm this sponsorship by the end of tomorrow.
Re: Mr Buttler is ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 04/03/2010 20:46
Superb news,well done.
Can he come and mow my lawn for me next week?
Trego for England
Can he come and mow my lawn for me next week?
Trego for England
Re: Mr Buttler is ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 04/03/2010 21:56
Ring him up and ask him.
Re: Mr Buttler is ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 04/03/2010 22:14
Great idea.
He's coming around next Tuesday morning.
Going to plant some bulbs as well.
No problems for me if the lights go out in the future.
Trego for England
He's coming around next Tuesday morning.
Going to plant some bulbs as well.
No problems for me if the lights go out in the future.
Trego for England
Re: Mr Buttler is ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 05/03/2010 09:10
We all need a buttler, BJ, but you have first call.
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Re: Mr Buttler is ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 05/03/2010 09:41
I'm sorry, BJ, but no self-respecting buttler would be seen working in the garden.
With them, dignity is all.
With them, dignity is all.
Re: Mr Buttler is ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
Date: 05/03/2010 10:05
Perhaps our correspondent, with the same name as a renowned Bus Inspector, will be heard to say: - "Come on Buttler, get that bus out."
Re: Mr Buttler is ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 05/03/2010 10:14
Well done, Grockle. And many thanks.
Re: Mr Buttler is ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 05/03/2010 11:00
Thanks Grockle - a great result.
One thing occurs to me. I believe that in the past the Club has barred players from posting on this site and whilst we would probably prefer that this was not so we have accepted it.
However, now that grockles.com has shown its colours as true supporters of the Team by sponsoring for the last couple of years, perhaps they would allow our Sponsoree to post occasional pieces saying how the season is going for him thus showing acknowledgement of the support (financial and on-the-pitch) we are providing?
It would add to the strength of our support and might well bolster grockles.com reputation.
What do folk think?
One thing occurs to me. I believe that in the past the Club has barred players from posting on this site and whilst we would probably prefer that this was not so we have accepted it.
However, now that grockles.com has shown its colours as true supporters of the Team by sponsoring for the last couple of years, perhaps they would allow our Sponsoree to post occasional pieces saying how the season is going for him thus showing acknowledgement of the support (financial and on-the-pitch) we are providing?
It would add to the strength of our support and might well bolster grockles.com reputation.
What do folk think?
Re: Mr Buttler is ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 05/03/2010 11:06
Might be a nice idea, in theory.
I would not suggest that we hold our collective breath whilst waiting for Mr Rose to approve such a step, though.
I would not suggest that we hold our collective breath whilst waiting for Mr Rose to approve such a step, though.
Re: Mr Buttler is ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 05/03/2010 11:15
I am with you on that one AGod.
Grockle did get a link to this site albeit a bit obscure on the sponsorship page, it took me a while to figure out where the link was last year, I thought the link would be on the front page menu.
Grockle did get a link to this site albeit a bit obscure on the sponsorship page, it took me a while to figure out where the link was last year, I thought the link would be on the front page menu.
Re: Mr Buttler is ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 05/03/2010 11:34
Absolutely, Mike, I'm sure Grockle will get as much out of the club in return for our sponsorship as could possibly be "got," out of them.
I just suspect that £350 is not going to buy us a change of club policy. To be fair, I doubt £35,000 would buy us a change of club policy, either.
I just suspect that £350 is not going to buy us a change of club policy. To be fair, I doubt £35,000 would buy us a change of club policy, either.
Re: Mr Buttler is ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 05/03/2010 11:39
I don't know for £35,000 we might get a Head Groundsman, or is that now ruled out for ever?
Re: Mr Buttler is ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 05/03/2010 11:46
Naughty Mike, naughty!
Re: Mr Buttler is ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 05/03/2010 18:42
I can but ask gentlemen. But I also don't hold out massive amounts of hope.
Re: Mr Buttler is ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 08/03/2010 08:45
Grockle: I trust that in accepting donations on behalf of JB, you have verified the tax and residential status of the various contributors. People with associations with Tibet, the Virgin/Channel islands, Canada, Thailand etc are not necessarily to be relied upon as bona fide citizens with inalienable rights to influence the career of a young British sportsman.
And that includes Welshmen from Basingstoke.
NonDom of Nowhere
Sixty-one Seasons a Tax Evader
And that includes Welshmen from Basingstoke.
NonDom of Nowhere
Sixty-one Seasons a Tax Evader
Re: Mr Buttler is ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 08/03/2010 11:33
And Ipswich is in the Far East.
Re: Mr Buttler is ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 08/03/2010 11:46
nowhere further, if you ignore Feklixstowe
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
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Re: Mr Buttler is ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Tractor (IP Logged)
Date: 08/03/2010 11:48
Where?
Re: Mr Buttler is ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 08/03/2010 16:52
Ware?
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
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Re: Mr Buttler is ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2010 16:20
I have been elsewhere for a while so have only just caught up. Delighted with what I read.Here's to Jos.
Re: Mr Buttler is ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2010 17:32
Don't get too excited Geordie.
I've confirmed our interest with the club by e-mail and today received the invoice for the sponsorship.
Unfortunately not only have the club increased the sponsor price up by £100 to £350
(We've cleared that presently by £5!)
BUT
They have also invoked VAT on that price - new for this year.
Therefore the final price is NOT £350 but £411.25!!!
This is a price we cannot cover even with my contribution so I will need to ask Cheryl why the increase is £160+ NOT £100. It may be because they think we can claim the VAT back (not the case) but presently we cannot afford ANYONE unless this price is revised or at least three people have not yet sent me contributions - don't think that is the case either!!
I'll let you know how this pans out. :-(
I've confirmed our interest with the club by e-mail and today received the invoice for the sponsorship.
Unfortunately not only have the club increased the sponsor price up by £100 to £350
(We've cleared that presently by £5!)
BUT
They have also invoked VAT on that price - new for this year.
Therefore the final price is NOT £350 but £411.25!!!
This is a price we cannot cover even with my contribution so I will need to ask Cheryl why the increase is £160+ NOT £100. It may be because they think we can claim the VAT back (not the case) but presently we cannot afford ANYONE unless this price is revised or at least three people have not yet sent me contributions - don't think that is the case either!!
I'll let you know how this pans out. :-(
Re: Mr Buttler MAY NOT BE ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2010 18:09
It looks like they are trying to stop people like us sponsoring a player by first putting the price up and second by adding VAT on to it, this I presume they didn’t do last year.
Or have the VAT rules changed since last year.
If they are not careful the club could end up not getting everybody sponsored.
Or have the VAT rules changed since last year.
If they are not careful the club could end up not getting everybody sponsored.
Re: Mr Buttler MAY NOT BE ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2010 18:17
Takes your breath away.
Trego for England
Trego for England
Re: Mr Buttler MAY NOT BE ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2010 18:37
Grockle - is it possible for us to gift-aid our donations? Might that offset our deficit??
(Only for tax payers of course (which excludes Lord Ashcroft!))
(Only for tax payers of course (which excludes Lord Ashcroft!))
Re: Mr Buttler MAY NOT BE ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2010 18:45
It won't increase the amount we have in the kitty Sloop.
I've explained the position to Cheryl at the club and am waiting for their response. Presently we are in deficit by most of the VAT imposed (yes this is new for this year Mike).
I've explained the position to Cheryl at the club and am waiting for their response. Presently we are in deficit by most of the VAT imposed (yes this is new for this year Mike).
Re: Mr Buttler MAY NOT BE ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2010 20:07
It's like turning up for your Ryan Air flight with everything paid for upfront and then being told that loo roll on the plane is five pounds a slice.
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Mr Buttler MAY NOT BE ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 10/03/2010 21:23
Surely it's perfectly reasonable to pay for loo roll despite having paid for everything UP FRONT!? 
Re: Mr Buttler MAY NOT BE ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2010 00:13
I find myself totally baffled. I cannot imagine what justification there is for imposing VAT. We are not purchasing anything and neither are we paying for a service.
If the club insists on charging VAT on what is basically a gift under a fancy name, then as much as I regret it I think I would want to take my ball home. I'm sure Grockle will plead our cause eloquently and I look forward to a successful result.
If the club insists on charging VAT on what is basically a gift under a fancy name, then as much as I regret it I think I would want to take my ball home. I'm sure Grockle will plead our cause eloquently and I look forward to a successful result.
Re: Mr Buttler MAY NOT BE ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: PaddedUp (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2010 07:04
I don't think we should be blaming the Club for this. If sponsorship is now VATable then the tax has to be paid. If the sponsor (us) doesn't pay it then the Club would have to. This isn't a means of the Club raking in more cash - it's a means of the Chancellor raking in more cash so take it out on him. If anything this is an administrative cost for the club.
The only reason to criticise the Club is for not making the VAT requirement clear up front (assuming this was the case).
One way around it would be for the Club to reduce the sponsorship fee such that Sponsorship + VAT = £350. Of course, that basically means haggling, or asking for a goodwill gesture on the grounds that the VAT requirement was not made clear. The Club would of course have every right to tell us no, the price is what it is.
It does seem odd that the VAT rules on this might have changed since last year, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least.
The only reason to criticise the Club is for not making the VAT requirement clear up front (assuming this was the case).
One way around it would be for the Club to reduce the sponsorship fee such that Sponsorship + VAT = £350. Of course, that basically means haggling, or asking for a goodwill gesture on the grounds that the VAT requirement was not made clear. The Club would of course have every right to tell us no, the price is what it is.
It does seem odd that the VAT rules on this might have changed since last year, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least.
Re: Mr Buttler MAY NOT BE ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2010 09:06
Make of this what you will.
2.2 What types of support are not liable to VAT?
You may receive financial or other support in the form of donations or gifts. Provided they are freely given and secure nothing in return for the donor they are outside the scope of VAT. A taxable supply is not created where you provide an insignificant benefit such as a minor acknowledgement of the source of the support. Examples of this can include any of the following:
■giving a flag or sticker;
■naming the donor in a list of supporters in a programme or on a notice;
■naming a building or university chair after the donor; or
■putting the donor’s name on the back of a seat in a theatre.
[customs.hmrc.gov.uk]
2.2 What types of support are not liable to VAT?
You may receive financial or other support in the form of donations or gifts. Provided they are freely given and secure nothing in return for the donor they are outside the scope of VAT. A taxable supply is not created where you provide an insignificant benefit such as a minor acknowledgement of the source of the support. Examples of this can include any of the following:
■giving a flag or sticker;
■naming the donor in a list of supporters in a programme or on a notice;
■naming a building or university chair after the donor; or
■putting the donor’s name on the back of a seat in a theatre.
[customs.hmrc.gov.uk]
Re: Mr Buttler MAY NOT BE ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: PaddedUp (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2010 09:22
That sounds promising Mike - great research! Let's hope this is an admin error by the Club.
Re: Mr Buttler MAY NOT BE ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2010 09:24
The VAT rules haven't changed since 2002.
Re: Mr Buttler MAY NOT BE ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2010 09:46
Quote:Frome Exile
Surely it's perfectly reasonable to pay for loo roll despite having paid for everything UP FRONT!?
FE: Is there any bottom to which you will not sink?
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Mr Buttler MAY NOT BE ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2010 09:50
Grockle - IF (and I don't know if it is?) the club is one of many institutions that has managed to get itself registered as a charity, then it should indeed by possible, as Sloop John B suggests, for us to gift-aid our donations (taxpayers only.) Incidentally, I believe it's possible to Gift Aid if one pays Capital Gains Tax as well, as opposed to it just being income tax payers. So if we have any retirees who, last year, made more than £10,000 or so in share dealing then they may be covered too.
I appreciate that this would not increase the size of the kitty that you have at your disposal. However, it WOULD increase the amount of money going directly to SCCC. Therefore, one would have thought that, in the spirit of fairness, they might be prepared to drop the base price of the player by a corresponding amount, irrespective of the VAT situation?
As I say, only applies if SCCC has become a registered charity. I would asssume the Museum is a charity, but maybe not the club as a whole? If so, perhaps we could arrange to all donate our money to the museum in a kind of quid pro quo for sponsoring the player. That's unless the museum is not actually funded by the club, of course.
I appreciate that this would not increase the size of the kitty that you have at your disposal. However, it WOULD increase the amount of money going directly to SCCC. Therefore, one would have thought that, in the spirit of fairness, they might be prepared to drop the base price of the player by a corresponding amount, irrespective of the VAT situation?
As I say, only applies if SCCC has become a registered charity. I would asssume the Museum is a charity, but maybe not the club as a whole? If so, perhaps we could arrange to all donate our money to the museum in a kind of quid pro quo for sponsoring the player. That's unless the museum is not actually funded by the club, of course.
Re: Mr Buttler MAY NOT BE ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2010 10:17
Is the implication of your first paragraph, AGod, that retirees (utterly horrible word which I refuse to apply to myself) don't pay income tax? If so, would you kindly inform the Inland Revenue on my behalf?
This is actually of academic interest only since it was announced this morning that my place as the world's richest man has been taken by a Mexican telephone operator, leaving me in no position to donate any part of what is left of my fortune.
This is actually of academic interest only since it was announced this morning that my place as the world's richest man has been taken by a Mexican telephone operator, leaving me in no position to donate any part of what is left of my fortune.
Re: Mr Buttler MAY NOT BE ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: everhopefull (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2010 11:31
Is it not that last year the club paid the VAT due on the sponsorship themselves, and then found that were devaluing the price obtained by doing so.
I suppose the club would assume that most sponsorship are paid for by companies or a business that is VAT registered and therfore are able to reclaim the VAT back is they can prove to C & E that it is a genuine business expenditure.
In which case I fail to understand
The normal membership charges are inclusive of VAT, so out of the £99 charged at the discounted price, the government are taking roughly £17.35. But no mention is made of VAT in the clubs published prices
In the case of a Platinum Family membership the club are advertising at £395, which I assume also includes VAT of 17.5%, but if purchased prior to the New Year it would have been only 15%.
But in the case of Long room membership these are quoted as Plus VAT.
So a single Championship Long room member is £245 Plus VAT. That person would hardly be able to justify to C & E that it was corporate entertainment, and so would not legally be able to re-claim the VAT, but maybe the Founder member package of £10,000 plus VAT, which gives you 4 memberships for 5 years plus you can have a table for 10 of your buddies at the bi-annual dinner would be able to re-claim the VAT as it could be loosely described as entertaining clients.
It must be down to the Free Tea and Biscuits available in the Long Room packaging.
Customs & Excise from past experience never tend to tell you if you have overpaid only if you have underpaid.
I suppose the club would assume that most sponsorship are paid for by companies or a business that is VAT registered and therfore are able to reclaim the VAT back is they can prove to C & E that it is a genuine business expenditure.
In which case I fail to understand
The normal membership charges are inclusive of VAT, so out of the £99 charged at the discounted price, the government are taking roughly £17.35. But no mention is made of VAT in the clubs published prices
In the case of a Platinum Family membership the club are advertising at £395, which I assume also includes VAT of 17.5%, but if purchased prior to the New Year it would have been only 15%.
But in the case of Long room membership these are quoted as Plus VAT.
So a single Championship Long room member is £245 Plus VAT. That person would hardly be able to justify to C & E that it was corporate entertainment, and so would not legally be able to re-claim the VAT, but maybe the Founder member package of £10,000 plus VAT, which gives you 4 memberships for 5 years plus you can have a table for 10 of your buddies at the bi-annual dinner would be able to re-claim the VAT as it could be loosely described as entertaining clients.
It must be down to the Free Tea and Biscuits available in the Long Room packaging.
Customs & Excise from past experience never tend to tell you if you have overpaid only if you have underpaid.
Re: Mr Buttler MAY NOT BE ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2010 12:44
Yes, LoL, that was my implication. In the past I've been told by the that Gift Aid can't be claimed from people that are not in work unless they are paying other forms of direct taxation e.g. CGT. I suppose, maybe, the authorities would say that, wouldn't they?
Re: Mr Buttler MAY NOT BE ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2010 13:10
First I've heard of it. I've certainly made Gift Aid contributions since I retired and the only capital I've gained in that period was a visit to Cagliari for the first time.
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Mr Buttler MAY NOT BE ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2010 13:24
Pensions can be taxed - hence my original comment. It may be down to the SCCC not being a registered charity (presumably).
Wonder if they could create a Charity Arm just for sponsorship donations? Or would that scupper tax-relief for businesses donating??
Wonder if they could create a Charity Arm just for sponsorship donations? Or would that scupper tax-relief for businesses donating??
Re: Mr Buttler MAY NOT BE ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2010 13:25
The state pension is technically taxable income but is below the single person's tax allowance.
Certainly other pension income is taxable, so the suggestion that "those not in work" can't Gift Aid their donations is wrong.
"Those who pay no tax" would make more sense.
Quote:DirectGov website
retirement pension - the State Pension is taxable but, unlike company pensions, it's paid to you without tax being taken off so you need to tell your Tax Office you're getting it
Certainly other pension income is taxable, so the suggestion that "those not in work" can't Gift Aid their donations is wrong.
"Those who pay no tax" would make more sense.
Re: Mr Buttler MAY NOT BE ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: nblakey (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2010 15:48
OK I suppose I should put myself forward and say that I will go to the club office because " I WILL GET YOU BUTTLER"
Re: Mr Buttler MAY NOT BE ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2010 16:06
Before you do, blakey, make sure that you put that Clippie down first.
Re: Mr Buttler MAY NOT BE ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: nblakey (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2010 18:40
As Olive would say "Oh Arthur"Re: Mr Buttler MAY NOT BE ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2010 20:16
"Haggling" done. Buttler = Grocklee once more. Very reasonable response and back on track.
Re: Mr Buttler IS ONCE MORE ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2010 20:26
Well done again Grockle, it's your power of persuasion.
Re: Mr Buttler IS ONCE MORE ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2010 20:33
Yep. Smooth talking swine me!! :=)
Re: Mr Buttler IS ONCE MORE ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2010 20:51
Great news,well done.
Trego for England
Trego for England
Re: Mr Buttler IS ONCE MORE ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2010 21:15
Well done Grockle - glad to hear the Club listens!
Re: Mr Buttler IS ONCE MORE ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2010 23:21
Well played Grockle. I was sure your eloquence would save the day.
Re: Mr Buttler IS ONCE MORE ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2010 09:48
Excellent, Grockle. Your next task is to settle the problems in Afghanistan...
Re: Mr Buttler IS ONCE MORE ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2010 09:57
The diplomatic corps has missed out badly in failing to recruit Lord Grockle.
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Mr Buttler MAY NOT BE ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Botham (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2010 11:43
Quote:nblakey
OK I suppose I should put myself forward and say that I will go to the club office because " I WILL GET YOU BUTTLER"
You've been waiting for the chance to use that 'line'!
![[:wor kid:]](/phorum-5.1.15/mods/smileys/images/13.gif "[:wor kid:]")
Re: Mr Buttler IS ONCE MORE ours Ladies and Gents
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2010 17:43
I don't think there's any real problems with Afghan cricket at the moment boys so I don'tthink I'm needed!
JOS BUTTLER HAS NOW BEEN PAID FOR AND IS THE OFFICIAL SOMERSET GROCKLE FOR THE 2010 SEASON!!
Thank you one and all for your generosity and good luck to the young man in a very difficult season for him.
JOS BUTTLER HAS NOW BEEN PAID FOR AND IS THE OFFICIAL SOMERSET GROCKLE FOR THE 2010 SEASON!!
Thank you one and all for your generosity and good luck to the young man in a very difficult season for him.
Re: Mr Buttler OFFICIALLY the Grockles.com sponsored player of 2010
Posted by: Bath Bob (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2010 17:58
Well done Grockle. Your perseverance has been rewarded.
I shall follow Jos with even greater interest as it is wonderful to see so many supporters doing their bit to get behind the squad and the club.
I shall follow Jos with even greater interest as it is wonderful to see so many supporters doing their bit to get behind the squad and the club.
Re: Mr Buttler OFFICIALLY the Grockles.com sponsored player of 2010
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2010 18:02
At last we can now relax knowing no other obstacle will get in our way.
Thanks for all your effort.
Thanks for all your effort.
Re: Mr Buttler OFFICIALLY the Grockles.com sponsored player of 2010
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2010 18:11
Great stuff,I'm sure Jos is going to have a brilliant year.
Let's all get behind him,it's going to be an exciting time for all of us.
Trego for England
Let's all get behind him,it's going to be an exciting time for all of us.
Trego for England
Re: Mr Buttler OFFICIALLY the Grockles.com sponsored player of 2010
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 12/03/2010 22:09
How can he possibly fail with THIS fan-base behind him!
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