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MTWD celebrate a Decade

We made 10 years

By Barmy Kev ( with bits from ex mods and a Chief Exec)
March 18 2012

18th March 2002 is a historic day for Middlesex followers.  Two students at the time, Jeremy Horne (Barmy Jez) and David Slater (Shrek the Fifth) had the brainwave of setting up an alternative website for Middlesex supporters. It won’t last I hear you say. Well ten years to this day it’s still going strong.    Barmy Kev provides a plotted history of the highs the lows and the challenges overcome that enabled us to reach this point.


MIDDX Till We Die 10th Anniversary


Starter for 10

It was in April 2002 I found MTWD. I was looking at Sportnetwork’s  Drunken Wasps site and while randomly browsing this Network I discovered there were some cricket sites.  Lo and behold I found one for Middlesex and the rest is history.

The early days there were five regulars. Jez and David, me, Moundstander and Lord Of The Chairs, whatever happened to them?  Shortly after, Seaxe Man came on the scene, well we all know what happened to him, even if he has aged 40 years in the space of 10.  At that time it was about one posting a day and when I put something on, I would continually press the refresh button in desperate hope of a response.  I remember ecstatic moments of a response 2 days after my comment. There was a slow trickle of new contributors and the growth was slow.

The first significant event was a meeting Jez and David had with Vinny Codrington that summer. He wanted to support the site and offered to put an ad in free of charge in the Club’s Bi annual magazine (it wasn’t called the Crusader or Panther in those days).   In a short space of time there were many who had previously never heard of us, suddenly contributing. The site started to thrive.

A small contribution to this piece by David Slater himself:

“When we set up the website, it was more as a case of finding something to do; we never thought it would go anywhere. For the website to still be running 10 years later and getting so many hits a month, is incredible and something I am very proud to have been part of

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Jez lost interest after about a year and David kept the site going single-handed. A moderator’s life is not always easy and as the demands of the site were increasing.  David sadly had personal issues with family illness.  At that time not all contributors were well behaved and several bans were issued. David made many desperate pleas for someone to take over the moderating with no response. To his credit, David still kept it going in spite of matters on the site becoming troublesome and the personal issues getting worse. Personally, I was happy to help, but did not have the confidence or ability to take this on my own.

Then to all our relief Ged stepped in. I was his informal back up, but he quickly appointed me as a moderator.   Ged was keen to build on foundations laid with some new ideas.   Rather than rely on reports based on other Internet related articles he felt it was practical for an attendee to do a match report of their experience. This has proved till today to be a popular feature.  We had many ideas for competitions and quizzes to make the message board more interactive.   Ged also wanted a more liberal attitude to banning and felt with warning and nudging in the right direction would be beneficial.  This ‘tolerance’ policy had worked in some instances, but gave us many challenges we could have done without.  More importantly, however, the popularity of the site kept growing. With this growth, the demands on the moderators were greater.

One of the darker moments was when Ged had a 3 week break. He announced he would be away and for everyone to behave themselves.  I was working 12 hour shifts and would come home to find this was a cue for some using the website to provoke trouble.   I felt like jacking it all in and the few trouble-makers you know who you are, if you read this, shame on you.   On Ged’s return, I banned him from going away again and threatened to confiscate his passport.  A third moderator was needed for extra cover and relatively new user Comeback Gatt filled this role. I’m pleased he is still with us providing support where necessary.   

Also, we have an anniversary contribution from Ged:

“I thank Kev for his kind words in this piece and I would also like to acknowledge his tenacity and supreme efforts for the site throughout MTWD’s 10 years to date.  Fan sites for sports clubs tend to come and go – very few have staying power.  It is an extraordinary achievement for MTWD to have made 10 years and to still be going strong.  But moderators can only achieve so much in this regard - MTWD’s durability is mostly down to the superb bunch of contributors and regular readers.  I have met many wonderful people through Middlesex CCC – many of whom I probably wouldn’t have met were it not for MTWD.  For the amazing friends I have made through MTWD, I shall always be grateful.  It remains one of the best sports club fan sites on the world-wide-web and is a great credit to Middlesex CCC.  May MTWD continue to go from strength to strength.”


I Heard A Rumour on MTWD

It became apparent over a period the huge role MTWD played with Middlesex CCC, their players and staff.  I remember at Southgate a chat John Embrury had with the Turkeys with me in background.  The amount of times he said in his rants "Kev don’t put this on your site". I asked him whether he reads the site and he said he doesn’t but his daughter does and every morning over breakfast she would give updates on the fans opinions.   In 2008 season it was known Ed Joyce would be leaving the club and there was all sorts of unfair assumptions on his motives, which he must have read.  In Antigua for Stanford tournament he approached me and gave his honest heart felt account and he wanted me to put the record straight on MTWD, which I duly did.  On the same trip a very high up person within club commented saying he reads MTWD every day. I won’t reveal his name but when asked for a further opinion he said "I Love It".   More negatively Vic advised me Murali Kartik and Chris Silverwood turned up at Uxbridge in very bad moods purely due to negative comments about their attitudes on our Message Board.  Another instance was Tim Murtagh’s mum on Kevin Hand’s commentary the day after a false rumour was started on MTWD about his boy joining Sorry, denying this.    

In 2010 Ged said in the not to distant future he will be relinquishing moderators duties due to time constraints with other issues.   He wanted to leave with the site in good hands.  At this time we were looking for another moderator and in Holland I popped the question to Kimmy and she said “I will.” ... “I will become a moderator.”   Luckily I forgot to mention to her what it involved.  She was a breath of fresh air with new ideas.  She compiled business cards to promote the site and MTWD player of month awards with a trophy and something fizzy as a prize last season.   

Ged moved on from moderating a year ago and we are grateful for his contributions.  His technical expertise and words of wisdom are greatly missed, but we’ve muddled through successfully. 


Fifteen Minutes of Fame

My proudest moment was at end of last summer when I heard the Sunday Observer had written an article about MTWD and our players’ nicknames. Two days later BBC Radio London wanted to interview one of our moderators to find out more about this and other Middlesex matters.   I was volunteered or was it the other way round.  While I was on the phone awaiting this interview, I could hear Mike Tindall talking about England’s prospects in the Rugby World Cup and I was due to follow.  Nerves were jangling. I was relieved my interview was a success, but having replayed this many times I over used my quotas of “erm”.

On reflecting from a personal point of view, what matters the most is the many friends I have met from MTWD. 10 years ago I would attend a Middlesex game and would be on my own, Kevy no mates. Through MTWD I have been privileged to be in excellent company at matches and feel I’m part of an extended family.  


Looking Forward To More Decades

Just as I was worrying about combined time the current moderating team can devote, we have new moderators in Chunky, Diamond with some Beefy bits to fill the gap.  After 10 years, I am proud to say we are still going strong. There have been some difficult times and many occasions we have been close to giving up, but we have weathered these storms.  Here’s to many 10 years anniversaries. 


We are Middlesex Till We Die, till we die.        


And Finally a Message from Vinny on behalf of Middlesex CCC.

On behalf of Middlesex County Cricket Club, I would like to pass our congratulations to Middlesex Till We Die on the site reaching its tenth anniversary.

I’m sure when the website was established a decade ago, few would have predicted what lay ahead, and that ten years on it would still be a thriving interactive forum for Middlesex members and fans alike to chat about all things Middlesex.

Whilst we’ve had cause to have the occasional odd stern word with MTWD’s administrators due to some postings over the years, we’ve always felt that it was important for fans of the club to have a place to independently voice their opinions about the club, and this is where MTWD has done such a wonderful job.

Many of Middlesex’s most ardent, loyal and passionate fans can often be found residing within the message boards of MTWD, either as those posting or as those administrating, so it’s no surprise at all that MTWD continues to offer fans of the club a brilliant environment to debate all the goings on at Middlesex and elsewhere within the game. Our thanks go to all of you for your continued support and ongoing commitment to Middlesex County Cricket Club.

Our congratulations go to all at MTWD for reaching this milestone, and we wish you all the best of luck in the decade ahead.

Well done MTWD – Keep up the good work.”


Vinny Codrington, Chief Executive, Middlesex County Cricket Club

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18/03/2012 00:03
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012:03:31:12:16:14 by BarmierKev.

Re: MTWD celebrate a Decade
Vic. (IP Logged)
18/03/2012 07:26
Thanks and well done to each and every one of the moderators for your efforts to supply an outlet for us frustrated cricket fans.
Unfortunately some very good friends drop away from the site - for various reasons - however, that is the nature of these forums. The strength is that the site continues despite these set backs and not only to continue but to flourish.
MTWD has allowed me to make many many great friends, who's company I cherish.
Onwards and upwards.

Re: MTWD celebrate a Decade
chunkyinargyll (IP Logged)
18/03/2012 07:45
A wonderfull piece, Kev. I honestly think we're the best cricket forum out there. And I don't think that's biased. We're a little bit different to the rest (JW sees to that!). It's true that for whatever reason people come and go on forums. When we have an old thread from three years ago there are always alot of unfamiliar (to me) names in there, but I do take comfort from the fact that I don't think any regulars have left since I joined in (otherwise I would get paranoid- Is it something I said?!) When I did join in, it felt like everyone knew each other personally- was it a private club, and a newcomer wouldn't be welcome? Definately not!
I've been told by several people players read this site- Jonathan providing a link to a tweet from Finnysteve that he had backed a horse called 'Chunky Diamond'- and it won confirmed it! Sometimes at about 9am there is a sudden surge from 1,2 or 3 people reading, up to 9 or 10. Ordinary supporters getting to their place of work- or maybe the players all seeing what we've been saying, before starting training, prior to the days play? Still don't know the answer to that one!
Here's to the next 10 years.

Re: MTWD celebrate a Decade
BeefyRoberts (IP Logged)
18/03/2012 08:46
10 years old,congratulations to all who started this great site,and a HUGE THANKS to the hard work the moderators do.
The site has enabled myself to meet so many good people,i use to be 'Beefy no mates' who sat in the warner stand all on my own.
It was at Uxbridge a few years ago when i saw Kev wearing a MTWD t-shirt and i wrote the site down,got home and took my first look.
It is something i wanted to find for many a year,a site with pure cricket chat and here it was,so glad i saw that old t-shirt!
My first meeting was with Kev at Jolly Beach for the stanford series,met up with more and more after that.The rest,they say is history.
Carry on the great work everyone,onwards and upwards we go.And,just like to say the great bit that Vinny has put,goes a long way to see that.

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Re: MTWD celebrate a Decade
18/03/2012 09:08
Here's to the next 10 years.

Many thanks to Jez and Slates for having the idea of setting the whole thing up. Thanks to subsequent moderators for keeping it all going through some pretty dark times too.

To all posters past,present,new and old keep up the work of making this one of the most readable sites on the web.

This site is really all about content,the message board and the articles so let's keep it high this coming season.

Lastly thanks to the club for having the "nads" all those years ago to endorse this site and give us the rein (within reason) to be a truly independent fan site rather than just a club run talking shop.
It's a bright Sunday morning,sun's out and it's a couple of weeks till the season starts,bring it on.

Re: MTWD celebrate a Decade
lower pavilion (IP Logged)
18/03/2012 09:42
Well done to everyone connected to the site.

I am a relative newcomer, compared to some, to the site having been introduced to it by I believe Kev and Ged some years ago

I have made so many good friends on the site. For so many years I used to watch our games just from the pavilion, hence my name. Now due entirely to our site I tend to watch a lot of the matches with the Vermin Army and go with regulars to many away games which is always great fun.

Thanks again to all our moderators past and present for keeping this wonderful site going.

Here is to the next 10 years.

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Re: MTWD celebrate a Decade
dingy bags (IP Logged)
18/03/2012 09:59
Happy Birthday MTWD.

I would like to add my thanks to all of those who have and who continue to put in so much time to run this thing, so that people like me can get so much fun from it.

Like others, for a number of years I would go to watch and often spend quite a lot of the time speaking to no one. Now it's rare, even at an away game, not to bump into plenty of people I've met through this site and who have, like me, an odsession with all things Middx.

It's weird to think that we must all have attended lots of days' cricket, before this site existed, WITHOUT talking to each other. Seaxe Man was talking about a day decades ago, recently, when he was present. So was I, God knows how many years before I knew him.

Re: MTWD celebrate a Decade
18/03/2012 10:05
Uncanny fact.....MTWD shares it's birthday with Shaun Udal!!

Re: MTWD celebrate a Decade
Jonathan Winsky (IP Logged)
18/03/2012 10:22
I did not realise that MTWD was founded exactly one week after my first school day at my boarding school in Cheshire. I marked the 10th anniversary of that by also writing it about. However, the document I wrote has attracted absolutely no responses on the sites where I linked to it, whereas this article has attracted several comments!

I remember that the first I heard about this site was when it was mentioned in an official club publication, although I also heard whispers about the site at matches. I think the first time I checked out the site was in the summer of 2006, when the amount of time my school allowed me to spend on the Internet became regular. The first time I posted was when I wished to vent my frustration at Middlesex's Pro40 match v Nottinghamshire at Lord's in 2006 being switched from a day in my summer holidays to a day at the start of the school term as a result of the Outlaws reaching Twenty20 finals day.

Like many others, the site has introduced me to people who I would otherwise not know.

I take great pride in the site being mentioned in Daily Telegraph in July 2010 and the Observer in July 2011, while MTWD's publication of an article titled Rock Bottom at DisGraced Road in July 2009 was acknowledged on the back page of the Wembley Leader, something I started a thread about. At least we weren't Rock Bottom after our visit to Grace Road in 2011!

Well done to everyone who has helped MTWD last 10 years. I am confident that it will last for many decades to come.

Re: MTWD celebrate a Decade
Haringey Racer (IP Logged)
18/03/2012 13:47
I'm one of those who found the site thanks to Vinny's plug in the magazine. Thanks a bunch Vinny, it's all your fault.

Re: MTWD celebrate a Decade
Fozzie (IP Logged)
18/03/2012 16:42
Thanks to all, past and present, who have made this site a success. And well done to the club for being open to it from the start.

Re: MTWD celebrate a Decade
kimmy (IP Logged)
18/03/2012 17:24
Happy Birthday MTWD...

GREAT article Kev! (together with it's other contributors)

I count my lucky stars most days that I found this web site (and curse on others!!)

I, like Beefy was a Billy no mates sitting in the pavilion with the old uns until a flash of inspiration...
Being a Spurs fan we often sing 'tottenham till I die' so I decided one day (in 2008!) to type 'middlesex till I die' into google an it came up with all sorts of rubbish but also this one....

I haven't looked back since!!

I even took a trip upto Scotland with some of this mad bunch having not set eyes on them!! (found them at Heathrow though through the brightly coloured tops!!)

It's been GREAT and I have made some fantastic friends because of it!
Many a time there hasn't actually been any cricket due to rain, but what fun we've had!!!

Those of you who are a little shy, be brave and come forward! You don't have to stick round for long, but pop and say 'hello'!!!
Fozzy did and look what happened to him!!! (actually he still looks pretty normal!!)

Many congratulations to MTWD!!! Long may you continue!


Always look on the bright side of life... de dum de dum de dum de dum dum

Re: MTWD celebrate a Decade
Fozzie (IP Logged)
18/03/2012 21:04
Wow Kimmy, that's the most complimentary thing anyone's said to me for ages!

Seriously, though, I'd echo Kimmy's encouragement to say hello. I know some people worry that MTWD may be a bit cliquey, but quite honestly they're some of the friendliest and most welcoming folk you'll meet (even if a bit eccentric in some cases...). We're all in this because we love and support Middlesex CCC, so the more the merrier!

Re: MTWD celebrate a Decade
BarmierKev (IP Logged)
18/03/2012 21:41
I need to echo this point about us not being cliquey. There was a false rumour being spread that we were a clique and if you face doesn't fit you will be snubbed. We accept spending a whole days cricket with us is not ideal for everyone, but we always welcome anyone who passes our way for a quick hello and then they move on. Even some of the hard core vermin need to perambulate at some stage.

I am grateful for all the kind words said on this momentus day. I am now more motivated than ever to keep matters going here, even if it means more nudging towards our new mods.

I'm MTWD till I die.

Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele

Re: MTWD celebrate a Decade
18/03/2012 21:42
You can't call Kev eccentric Fozzie! Well not in the John Mckreike sort of way at least,Mc's far better dressed!!

Re: MTWD celebrate a Decade
Jonathan Winsky (IP Logged)
18/03/2012 22:23
I don't mind spending time with or talking to MTWD posters, but my lack of interpersonal skills means I find it difficult to know what to say.

I am not sure whether it was a good thing or a bad thing when Lower Mound sought to introduce me to posters at matches.

Re: MTWD celebrate a Decade
dean_uk (IP Logged)
18/03/2012 22:33
Congratulations .. I'm still in nappies as far as this site is concerned but the efforts of moderators and other contributors alike are greatly appreciated.

Re: MTWD celebrate a Decade
kimmy (IP Logged)
18/03/2012 23:23
Ah JW....

You know most of us understand your difficulties and are quite happy with a hello or even a nod...

I suspect you feel a little easier if Lower Mound is with you and we'll happily chat to both of you, even if he gives most of the answers!

Please dont stress yourself over talking or not to us!

You are most certainly a valuable member of MTWD. But if you want to come over or say hello then please feel free (I know you did at Uxbridge and we were all pleased you did!!)


Always look on the bright side of life... de dum de dum de dum de dum dum

Re: MTWD celebrate a Decade
Vic. (IP Logged)
19/03/2012 07:25
Now what were the words that gent at Leics used Beefy.....................?
JW I'll show you around the wicket next season.

Re: MTWD celebrate a Decade
rod/ed (IP Logged)
19/03/2012 13:02
Congrats to all those involved, and good lick for the future.

I've followed, and occasionally posted , since late 2002. It makes me feel like a real supporter even tho' I'm 400 miles north.

Re: MTWD celebrate a Decade
Sussex Seaxe (IP Logged)
19/03/2012 14:32
I echo the congratulations on here. I stumbled across the site by accident and enjoy reading it most days. As I travel abroad a bit, it is a great way of keeping in touch and retaining some semblance of sanity!

It is interesting to look back at some names that were always on here and wonder what happened to them - I guess we will never know...

Well done to all those who keep it going - as with most things, there is a lot of work behind the scenes that is almost completely unappreciated. To those who do it, please accept our (largely) unspoken thanks.

Re: MTWD celebrate a Decade
BarmierKev (IP Logged)
19/03/2012 15:47
I'm a little concerned Susaex Seaxe that we help maintaing some semblance of sanity. On saying that thanks for your kind words.

Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele

Re: MTWD celebrate a Decade
adelaide (IP Logged)
20/03/2012 00:35
Not sure, but I think I got onto MTWD after it got a mention in a posting on 606. (Rumours that I misspelt the name of a porn site are totally unfounded.)

Congrats to everyone who has been involved in running the site, in particular for preventing it becoming pony like the 606 Middlesex page. We may have the occasional Mrs Merton style Heated Debate about what Middlesex actually is and whether it exists at all, but what would life be without a little Heated Debate?


Re: MTWD celebrate a Decade
comebackgatt (IP Logged)
20/03/2012 09:47
I found this site via the 606, thanks to Auntie Janet to pointed me in this direction. Little did I know that one email to Ged about a dodgy post would end up with me being a Mod!! Living in Kent now try to get to as many games as I can, and I am one of those shy, retiring people that keeps myself to myself (Sm100) but am going to try and make the effort to meet some of you this year.

Re: MTWD celebrate a Decade
Vic. (IP Logged)
20/03/2012 13:14
Good on ya Gatt, you know where we hang out.

Re: MTWD celebrate a Decade
Seaxe_Man (IP Logged)
20/03/2012 17:27
On the way to the AGM back in 2002 I was lobbied at the Grace Gates by a chap I now know to be SHRECK WASP.

He asked if I would contribute to the site and I took the details.

He has since told me, I was the third person to sign up.

I was only 88 then.

I can relate to what most of you have said on this thread and thoroughly agree with your sentiments..

An excellent article Kev.

I will always remember you aping the Leaning Tower of Pisa on the Victoria Line after we had drunk the pub dry in Pimlico after a T20 game at Brownhatland.

Like the Leaning Tower, you defied gravity on the trip back to Wembley Park or at least you were the last time we saw you.

MTWD onward and upward.

Re: MTWD celebrate a Decade
21/03/2012 19:12
Congratulations to all at MTWD. You are all my heroes.

I was "Bunny No Mates" until I found MTWD, but now everyone at Middlesex loves me.

It was wonderful to see messages from Shrek and Ged and Vinny.

But I was wondering why Sportnetwork have not provided any kind words on this momentous occasion.

Didn't you think to ask them, Uncle Barmy?

Hippity is author of top features: Hippity's Tale and Bunny Away

Re: MTWD celebrate a Decade
BarmierKev (IP Logged)
21/03/2012 20:05
Gosh another blast from the past. Hip I did ask Sportnetwork if they have anything they would like to say for our 10 years and guess they are still compiling their piece as an sure grateful for what we have done for them.

Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele

Re: MTWD celebrate a Decade
21/03/2012 20:13
Not really a blast from the past Kev,more like just come out of a longer than usual hibernation.

Welcome back Hippity.

Re: MTWD celebrate a Decade
21/03/2012 22:10
Still waiting for a reply?! Still waiting for a reply??!! Still waiting for a reply???!!!

Uncle Barmy, my understanding is that Sportnetwork ALWAYS respond to requests and questions incredibly quickly. What's going on in this instance?

I haven't been hibernating, Uncle Diamond, but I have been using Twitter a lot.

In fact, I went to the doctor yesterday and said, "doctor, I think I am addicted to tweeting". He replied, "I'm sorry, Hippity, I don't follow you."

Perhaps best I go into hibernation now, folks.

Hippity is author of top features: Hippity's Tale and Bunny Away

Re: MTWD celebrate a Decade
Haringey Racer (IP Logged)
22/03/2012 15:20
Hibernation? After that last joke you should be in a pie.

Re: MTWD celebrate a Decade
Coops (IP Logged)
26/03/2012 18:57
I would like to say Happy Birthday and a big thankyou to a very sober Kev and Beefy who introduced me to the site on 21st June, last year.

I only remember that day because there was only 17 minutes of play while we finished Kent off. Oh..... and its my Birthday.

Although I don't tend to write too much, I do like to browse the pages regularly and find it very informative, especially as I am not the most knowledgeable person about the game.

It is a great site and I do like the little get togethers at games ( normally in the bar area ).

Keep up the good work.

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