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High drama in Hydrabad?

The Openers
By Grockle
October 10 2009
So - Somerset in India starts at 3:30 today! The outgoing captain Justin Langer is expected to move himself up the order to opener with the incoming captain and returnee to the "international" arena Marcus Trescothick. Deccan Chargers are the opposition with the mighty Adam Gilchrist, Fidel Edwards and Charminda Vaas in their squad. Big names and great experiences for the men of the county

v Deccan Chargers CT20L @ Hyderabad Saturday 10 October 2009

Scorecard

Free TV coverage on Eurosport UK 2 Channel 411 on SKY

The last Langer extravaganza starts here in front of lots of mad Indians!!  The side announced is;

Trescothick (yay!!), Langer, de Bruyn, Kieswetter, Suppiah, Trego,Hildreth,Waller, Thomas, Phillips, Willoughby

Hopefully the front end will be flexibly used - The start put on by Banger will be the main determinent of the game from our point of view.

Facing the likes of Gilchrist, Laxman, Vaas, Symonds, Edwards,Styris, Sharma and Rao will be a challenge and Langer will have to maintain the pace of a batting innings better than was the case in the pro40.  He will open with Marcus and then use CK later for the big push.  Arul will move up the order while James H will move down.  The introduction of ZdB is also crucial.

Bowling wise, Charl and Alfonso should feel at home with nearly every other main South African player in this competition somewhere!!  We need a good game from Ben Phillips and the support of Peter Trego and the medium pace of Zander will also be crucial.  BIIIIIGGGGG game for a certain Max Waller. If nothing else comes from this tournament,  the chance for young players like Max, Craig and Pete to compete against the higher calibre of cricket professionals is a great opportunity.

Deccan are at home...but then again 50% of their side isn't even Indian!!  Then again they did win the IPL so we have it all to do.  More at 3:30....

This game is under floodlights totally and the crowd looks big and pro-Deccan - nothing better than a cauldron type atmosphere to see what our boys are made of.  Though it has to be said that our bowlers and top batsmen will have been involved in this kind of high intensity game before.  Trescothick, Langer, Willoughby, Thomas and de Bruyn have all been involved in international competition before - though not necessarily in the warm humid nights of the sub continent.

The commentators suggest that the pitch is full of runs and is rock hard.  Justin has won the toss and decided to bowl first because he says it's worked for them up to now.  The crowd seems happy that Deccan will face first - I'm worried!  But we don't know much about this so it's all to play for.  JL looked happy and was very complimentary about his side.  Vaas won't play for the Chargers.

Laxman and Gilchrist will open and it's down to the Somerset batting guys to chase down whatever the Chargers put in front of them.  Good to see the county badge on the TV rather than some 'Sabres' logo.  We are Somerset.  We are a county.  We are not some mish mash of players who meet to play a tournament.  We are a team irrespective of whether we lose to this bunch.  This is a team building exercise,.  This says we are seen as something more than just an English side.  We have international credentials and it's time to show we believe it ourselves.

Marcus is on the pitch!! - Brilliant to see and worth the event on it's own!!

Charl to open against the man he faced not three weeks ago at Taunton - VVS Laxman - on a huge ground half way around the world in front of about a 60% capacity crowd.  Laxman is off the mark with the first.  Great to see Blackacre Farm Eggs  on the shirts and not covered over with bits of masking tape!!  Lots of chatting and buzzing in the field and almost the first wicket off the last ball of the first as Laxman hits one in the air to mid off and just out of the reach of Phillips.  10 off the first.

Thomas to Gilchrist for the second over and the ball nips back in to the ex-Aussie wickie first up....late swing is a good sign for the man of the moment.  He has Laxman playing circumspectly and flashing hard as well.  17 for no loss after two.  This tournament has big scores and batsmen going for it.  Good bowling ALL the time is needed.

The commentators reckon we have about 24 thousand in the ground and they are making a lot of noise. The commentators think that 180 ish is a decent score on this pitch.  BIGGG ask but probably good that we have decided to chase.  Somerset look very sharp in the field - let's hope that continues. 

But it doesn't as Gilchrist shows what he's made of and takes 16 out of 17 off Charl's second over and end on 34 after 3 - 200 plus total at this rate of 11 and over!!  Welcome to the big boys T20 CW. This is worrying...unitl Alf steps up and gets Gilly top edging one into the air to Marcus who pouches the ball and is VERY up for this.  Faster ball (143 Kps) and it's 35 for 1. In comes Suman. 

The fastest 50 of the tournament is up at 11 an over in the 5th - Charl is still on after being murdered in his second over but he holds them to 10 and 51 for 1 25% of the way through this.  Can we chase 200+ down?  Well if you wanted to put your faith in our main ability it would surely be in our batting.  But 8 fours and 1 six in that front end will make the job very difficult.

Phillips is on for the sixth and goes for four clipped by Laxman off his first - welcome Benjamin!  nevertheless Ben has his own statement to make as he gets Suman caught behind by his new captain for 6 and it's 59 for 2 with Symonds in at four.  Laxman is flashing at the ball, out of character but getting runs.  Symonds is away though with a guided four off his first to take his side into 63 for 2 by the end of the 6th.  End of the Powerplay.

Trigger comes on for Willow and goes for 10 and then Phillips has Symonds flashing and nearly going to Trego who stops the ball but has the ball bounce just in front of him.  The rate is still very high though but Phillips  is still asking questions.  Lots of comments about Trigger's tattoo on the telly.

Wicket 3 to Trego! Andrew Symonds goes for 8 caught by Hilda as he tries to smash it over the infield.  80 for 3 and the rate is coming down to about 9 but Laxman is still there.  Marcus reckons this is a 180 pitch but why oh why is he wearing TWO caps?  Phillips nearly has another as Sharma flips one between a wide first slip and the keeper while the commentators are talking to Banger.  86 for 3 after 10 and the pick of the bowling is from Phillips up to now.

Then we get the important one - Laxman to the big man Pete Trego!  That is a real wicket and great cricket - beautiful slower ball.  4 overs 19 for 2 to him and 10 dot balls with only singles coming in the mid sector of the innings.  The press is on and the pace is off the ball as Zander is in to Scott Styris.  Sharma isn't getting the ball onto him and with 14 overs gone it's been pulled back to 99 for 4.  Good work by the middle men.

In comes Willoughby for the 15th (hmmm?) and up comes the 100 with a straight drive from Styris.  Good straight bowling from the guys with a good number of yorker length balls to keep the men in their creases.  Three quarters of the way in and it's 106 for 4 - much better than you would have predicted after the first 5.

Styris breaks out though with a huge straight six off Zander but once again his middle pace is harder to get away although Sharma also smashes him over the covers.  These two are looking to push the score on but in doing so Sharma finds Thomas coming in from the boundary and it's 118 for 5 and Zander also does his job.  In comes Rao - one of those promising Indians who seems to have gone off the international radar after being sold as one of the new stars of sub-continental cricket. 

Thommo is back for the 17th and is still looking dangerous and they aren't getting them away.  Singles are fine and Alf is bowling a good length.  But who will bowl at the end?  Long length to Styris and it's on the toes and given out LBW 121 for 6 and this is a really really good pull back from a big start for the opposition.  Can the batsmen finish this one off?  They've shut the crowd up that's for sure.  In comes Singh.  Looking at the replay, Styris was a bit unlucky (going down to leg) but who the hell cares?

122 for 6 after 17.  Thomas 17 for 1 off 3 and Zander will finish his lot with Ben to take one of the last 2.  Rao sixes ZdB and then takes a boundary off the next but our man comes back with a really good Yorker and finishes with 34 for one wicket.  (27 came off his last 2 with only 7 off his first half.)  136 for 6 and 150 is on.

Phillips takes the 19th - big over for us - and Langer sorts out his field.  First ball is fired straight over his head for 6 by Rao.  Better second ball goes for one.  Ben gives him a yorker and knocks his off stump all over the place.  143 for 7 - really good third ball to the tail ender.  In comes Fidel Edwards. 

Ball 4 is hit off his toes and he takes the single to put Rao back on strike.  Phillips got some swing on that wicket ball.  Rao tries to hit another out of the ground and goes to Hildreth 144 for 8 and bye bye Rao.  7 balls left as Ojha arrives at the crease.

The last ball is a single and Thommo will deliver the last 6 with 145 up and two new men at the crease. Ball 1 to Edwards for 1 - squirted off his hip.  Ball 2 - left handed Ojha - single to midwicket. Ball 3 sees Edwards smashing the ball for four through extra cover.  Good hit and 150 on the board. Ball 4 Edwards tries to pull him and misses.  Ball 5 is 'chinese cut' through to Craig. Last ball is a wide so it isn't the last ball but Ojha is run out at the non striking end and it's 152 for 9.  Harmeet Singh is in and they run a single 153 for 9.

The commentators don't think that is enough.  They've done really well.  Excellent bowling from the boys after a shaky start good lines and good length with some really good pressing from Trigger and Zander in the middle and some good work by Ben but Alf looked wonderful.  Good solid fielding as well - not something we've seen in other games.  I'm happy with that but we need a good start in our innings.

Here we go Edwards to Trescothick - a no ball full toss and the first warning as it comes out of his hand.  Langer gets his first run off some tidy fielding which breaks the stumps.  Edwards is bowling at 152 Kps!!  But his short ball is just flipped over the slips for 4 by the Somerset man.  Fidel is banging it in short to our man.  ball 5 is driven for four by the Mighty man. 12 off the first one.

Singh is looking for swing at the other end and his first is full to Banger. He keeps the ball up for half an over and has the opener watching.  Then he gives him a loose one and gets flipped for four.  Unfortunately though he has another abll to come and Marcus gets a top edge on that one and a skier is taken by Gilchrist!!  DAMN! And what brain decided to send ZANDER in at 3!!!  Don't you lot learn anything from the Pro40?  Langer and de Bruyn do not push on!! Though he does flip the first down the leg side for 4!!

25 up after 3 with a pretty poor second over from Edwards. Harmeet Singh is on for the 5th with us at 35 for the loss of one.  Justin has gone into this one with the policy of 'hit it or get out' and Zander is following his captain's lead. they push the score on better than they have in the past but just as they get to 50, Zander goes t an excellent catch from a retired wicketkeeper who would keep some of the international blokes out of their sides if he was still playing.  It was a big edge and Gilchrist was across and diving to catch the ball from Singh. 50 for 2 and in comes Craig.

Then Singh bowls to the skipper and he golf shots him to the mid on fielder and goes for 15. 51 for 3 and a minor collapse with Singh having 3 for 17 off 3 overs.  Ojha the spinner is in to our wickie. 54 for 3 after 7 - up to the rate but two new boys in and the crowd getting up for it again.

Wierd part of this game is the commentators talking to the umpire who is not at the stumps!!  How is that allowed while the game is on?

Gilchrist seems to have decided that the slow men are getting the results and his spinner and medium men are knocking the score down - 4 off the last over so 58 for 3 with 8 down.  Kieswetter is taking the men on coming up the wicket.  He does it again and mistimes it to put it into a H.Singh's hands on the boundary. 59 for 4 and the commentators are saying we look shakey.... how right they are!  Peter Trego is in.  OOOOOEEEEER has panic taken hold?

60 for 4 after 9 as Arul sixes the slow man into the crowd....calm Mr Suppiah, only hit the bad one. Styris is on for the eleventh with Somerset about halfway there at the halfway mark.  We need 80 from 57 so the pressure is really on for the young guys but Pete  sixes him when he bowls on his toes.  10 from the eleventh takes us to 81 for 4. Deccan wdere 89 for 4 at this point so this is a good even contest - we certainly haven't been outplayed in this game.  Now the TV is talking to Symonds - he thinks we are under more pressure than they are and he's right as Trego skies one and goes for 12.  Oh dear!

In comes James Hildreth and this one isn't over but we are the team that has to win or lose it now.  It is in the balance.  90 for 5 after 12.  In a one day game you'd still put your money on the batting side needing 64 off 8 - 8 an over guys!  It gets difficult if one of these two goes and it is now raining!

Ohja flights one and Arul skies it to Styris!!  We needed him to manage the end of this innings but he has gone and it's now a problem as Phillips arrives at 93 for 6 after 13.  61 off 7 is a BIG ask for JH and the tail.  if we lose this we'll have thrown this away.  Phillips walks past a straight one and is nearly stumped.  Good work from the keeper Gilchrist again!!  To add insult to injury Phillips snicks one to the boundary past the keeper next one up.

He then goes to a really soft dismissal flipping one straight to Symonds. A very poor and soft dismissal brings Thomas to the wicket with 55 needed from 36 balls, rain falling and us well behind on the D/L.  We have thrown this one away and asking the last few guys to make this one right is not on.  Rao is bowling but it is pretty immaterial to be honest unless James and Alf pull something really special out of a very deep bag!  Personally I see no hope with this game even though we are 108 for 7 with 6 to go.

Having just seen the Phillips dismissal again, the look of disgust on Ben's face was just what it should have been!!

We need 40 off 30. The story is on the scorecard.  6 scores in double figures, not one over 20!!!  Steady drizzle and a six from Thomas to keep us interested in this one.  James then fours it to take us to within 2 runs of the D/L total.  123 for 7 after 16.

Fidel is back on for the 17th.  James is facing.  It's a no ball and Fidel is taken off after the ball goes well over Hilda's shoulder for the second time in the game (the first ball to Trescothick was the same).  Styris will finish the over and it gives Gilchrist a problem if this game goes to the wire.

Its 26 from 20 and it is James Hildreth who will win this one for us if we win.  130 for 7 and that Fidel removal seems to have taken the edge off his side.  Can we do this?  Do we deserve to do this?

.......who the hell cares!! Let's just get it done.

131 for 7 23 needed off 18 balls and Gilchrist brings in Symonds - his 9th bowler - bowling slow medium.  22 off 17. 21 off 16. 20 off 15. 16 off 14 - glided four to Thomas. Cool heads please lads!!

16 off 13. 14 off 12 - great and brave running for the two.

Max is sitting there ready to come in and Singh is coming on to finish this game one way or the other.  Take it easy guys please!!

Singh to Hildreth. 14 off 11. 13 off 10. Thomas flips the ball to the boundary over the infield. 9 from 9. Bouncer! 9 from 8. 8 from 7.  Near bondary Leg byes! 50 partnership! 5 from 6!!

The Somerset guys were screaming for the ball to go for 4!!

Still an over to go though and 5 runs needed.  Scott Styris for the last over.  2 wickets left.

Hildreth on strike. Styris bowls Hilda!! In comes Max Waller - who would be this young man?

Long off and Long on come in to save the single.  Max's only objective?  Get Alf on strike.  Doesn't connect 5 from 4!!

Up in the air! Styris takes the catch. Max goes! 5 from 3. In comes Charl!! But Alf crossed so there is still some hope!!

Alf fires one to the boundary!!!!!!  Game tied!!

1 from 2. DOT BALL!!!

1 FROM 1 Well played Scott Styris but Alf hits the ball for FOUR!!!

AHHHH Jesus!!!!  You Beauties!!!  That was absolutely brilliant.

ALFONSO THOMAS

MAN OF THE MATCH!!

What did the local press think?

 

 

 

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Champions league India
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 18/09/2009 07:39

Has anybody booked or planning to watch Somerset in India?
Bit too expensive for me unless someone knows a cheap way.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 18/09/2009 09:10

I didn't think you were a fan of hit and giggle, BR!

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 18/09/2009 18:26

A somerset fan Both who wouldn't mind a cheap holiday.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 26/09/2009 11:30

I see that Steffan Jones is going to India due to Turner being injured.

Steffan is in talks with Derby to sign a contract to stay with them.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 26/09/2009 12:06

Then should he really be going? Crit of the club not Steff.

I suppose he is still a squad member but I personally hoped that that was a positive statement about his future at Taunton not a plan to use him as a "filler".

Ahhh well good luck to him whatever.



(Sm72)

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 30/09/2009 15:14

Marcus Trescothick has revealed that his decision to tour abroad for the first time in three years is a risk. [news.bbc.co.uk]

Do what is best for yourself Marcus, we are all behind whatever you decide to do.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 30/09/2009 15:18

I think we'd all rather guessed that it was a risk.

Is Langer still going or can we sign an overseas player that is effective in T20 especially for the tournament?

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: everhopefull (IP Logged)
Date: 30/09/2009 16:25

Is this another bit of "OLD NEWS" that the BBC has dragged up.
I am sure it is at least three weeks old.


Give the guy a break, let him slip out of the country, without the press following him to every point. If he makes it great, if not that is fine with me and I would think most of us also.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 30/09/2009 16:27

Hear! Hear!

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 30/09/2009 16:41

I have just had a thought (I do get them sometime) the club keep saying that Durston and Banks contract decision will be made after this Indian trip.

I wonder if that has something to do with them being in the squad, maybe they wouldn’t be allowed in the squad if they were already no longer contracted to Somerset.

Just a thought.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 01/10/2009 10:09

I think LoL with his cloak-and-dagger stuff should mastermind Tres' transfer to and from India so no-one knows when and where he is.

He must have a few 'safe houses' in India to call into his use!

(Sm116)

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 01/10/2009 10:41

He's welcome at mine any time he likes.



LoL

Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 01/10/2009 11:32

Have you got a mine as well?
Diamond,tin or coal?



Trego for England

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 01/10/2009 11:55

information



LoL

Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 01/10/2009 13:00

and "er-" in the case of Lord Tresco of Keynsham.



LoL

Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 03/10/2009 19:30

The Somerset team will be on their way by now, with Marcus following later.

Good luck!


I wonder now many of the Somerset management will get to be on this tour.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: JonR (IP Logged)
Date: 04/10/2009 08:38

Brief preview of the competition in the Telegraph.

It seems that Sussex will be fielding 2 overseas players, and the IPL teams up to 4. As the article suggests, the playing field does seem very uneven!

I assume Somerset would have had the opportunity to sign additional overseas players though, but decided against it?
Not that I'm complaining. I think it will be beneficial to Max in particular to be able to experience such a high profile competition.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 04/10/2009 10:31

Agreed, Jon. The players who got us there should be the ones who represent us.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 04/10/2009 10:38

I wouldn't be interested in supporting a few over-paid imports.
If we had the chance but didn't sign them,well done whoever made that decision.



Trego for England

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 04/10/2009 15:20

Agree totally with the previous posts. Our squad got us there and now let our squad show the world how good they are.



LoL

Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 04/10/2009 22:44

Spot on chaps...and I have a strange feeling that this team will show a few things or two. I'm getting excited already.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Slow Left Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 05/10/2009 14:35

Only ones I'd get would be Cam, Smith or Ricky - but I suspect they want a rest!

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 05/10/2009 15:34

Precisely SLC- they are all already honorary Tauntonians- they don't count as "foreign"

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 05/10/2009 17:19

Smith was due to play for his South African team, but has been pulled out under doctor's orders.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Chris L (IP Logged)
Date: 05/10/2009 17:54

Hi all, I'm a Trinidadian and I come in peace! I posted this review of the T & T side that your boys will be facing on the Indian Cricket Fever site but it seems like this might be the place to come for banter purposes..........

The Squad (Players with international experience in bold):

Darren Ganga (C), Dwayne Bravo (VC), Samuel Badree, Adrian Barath, Darren Bravo, Reyad Ermit, Sherwin Ganga, Dave Mohammed, Sunil Narine, William Perkins, Kieron Pollard, Denesh Ramdin, Ravi Rampaul, Lendl Simmons, Navin Stewart

Fixtures

Monday October 12th - Somerset, Bangalore
Wednesday October 14th - Deccan Chargers, Hyderabad

Strengths

- A strong batting lineup packed with talent and hitters down the order. If things go wrong there is Darren Ganga and Adrian Barath to bat properly so we have all bases covered.

- Spin bowling. Dave Mohammed has a sensational 20-20 record and Samuel Badree is very difficult to get away. Sunil Narine is also a promising off spinner.

- They are the only team in the competition who are playing as a country. This is not just a job or an opportunity for them, they are representing their nation which will mean a huge amount to them. Therefore the team spirit is always excellent

Weaknesses

- Pace bowling. Ravi Rampaul is an international standard seam bowler who is good at the death but there is nobody else of a high standard to support him.

Players to watch

- The Bravo brothers. Dwayne is the best 20-20 all rounder in the World with IPL experience and Darren is an incredibly talented young left handed batsman who has been scoring runs for fun in the trials and warm up matches.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009:10:05:17:54:49 by Chris L.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 05/10/2009 18:04

You are very welcome Chris, and thanks for a very informative posting.

Let the banter commence (only I have to go out now and so I'll have to leave it to the others)



LoL

Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Chris L (IP Logged)
Date: 05/10/2009 18:21

Quote:
Loyal of Lhasa.
You are very welcome Chris, and thanks for a very informative posting.
Let the banter commence (only I have to go out now and so I'll have to leave it to the others)

No worries. There is plenty of time for banter before the big bowl off(Sm128).

I think it's fascinating that our sides actually get to face each other. I can't see it happening too many other times unless T & T get really fugged off with the WICB and go it alone.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 05/10/2009 18:35

Hi Chris.
Looks a very decent squad on paper.
I'm a big fan of Bravo, and touted him as a potential O/P for Somerset after my visit to the Caribbean in '04.
I assume it's two from the group to go through?
The only worry is that the home fans might get a little upset when it's you and us who proceed!

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Chris L (IP Logged)
Date: 05/10/2009 18:42

That would be hilarious. IPL champions sent packing by the Sabres and the Soca Warriors.

As for Dwayne Bravo, he would make a fantastic overseas player for any team nowadays. I fear he might have spoiled his chances though by the way he behaved/performed at Kent. He went there when he was a bit too young and made a bad impression, even though his talent was obvious.

He has learned a lot since then and is very popular with his IPL team the Mumbai Indians where he is one of the senior players a long with Tendulkar and Jayasuria.

Hopefully someone will see fit to give him a chance at county level again soon.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 05/10/2009 18:52

I made the same point about his Kent spell when I was touting him, Chris. Too young!
It was off the back of a lot of cricket too, wasn't it? Even to the extent that he was carrying a couple of niggles?

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Chris L (IP Logged)
Date: 05/10/2009 18:55

Yep it was on the back of a long tour during which he had played every single game, including the warm ups.

Of course he has just had a year off cricket having had ankle surgery and he didn't get to play against Bangladesh because of the players strike/WICB's stupidity.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 05/10/2009 19:02

What a barking mad competition this is!

Chris' post (no offence, sir, you're very welcome here) points out that T&T are playing as a country with no overseas (or no non-WestIndian at any rate) players. SCCC are playing as a county (plus Mr Langer, who wouldn't be many club sides' first choice as a one-day player!). Sussex are, I believe, a county plus 2 overseas players. Most of the rest are a bunch of random sides containing international and ex-international mercenaries turning up were the highest number of bucks are on offer, plus some locals to make up the numbers.

A level-playing field, my *%£"!!!

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Chris L (IP Logged)
Date: 05/10/2009 19:22

Yep T & T were given the opportunity of using Gayle and Chanderpaul as overseas players but they chose not too. The 2 IPL sides are a collection of people playing for the highest bidder. Fidel Edwards will be steaming in for Deccan Chargers, Gilchrist opens the batting with Symonds and Shoaib Malik in the middle order. It seems a tad ridiculous.

But then again T & T are like a county in a sense because the Caribbean is made up of mostly small islands. The Aussie, Kiwi, Sri Lankan and South African states, don't have overseas players so at least they are on a level playing field.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 05/10/2009 20:12

If all goes to plan we'll have two "internationals" as well Shep. Any of these sides would have our other one if he was available. It's just that our second one is home grown unless Keynsham declares independence!!

As an experience it's a great experience for the guys...as a competition? Well it's a whole hell of a lottery.



(Sm72)

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 05/10/2009 22:01

Well done to T & T for not augmenting with internationals, Chris.

Going back to your squad, was Dave Mohammed not a Lucian, or am I getting muddled? Does he play for T & T in domestic WI cricket?

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Congar (IP Logged)
Date: 06/10/2009 02:44

Hi Chris, I happen to be in your country this evening so this is a Trini welcome to Grockles!

Interesting competition this one, I think SP's post above describes the football Premier League just as well as this one.

I don't think that internationals vs internationals gives a true picture of the relative strengths of the teams and that is why I am confident that it will be T & T and Somerset moving on to the next round.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Chris L (IP Logged)
Date: 06/10/2009 11:58

Yep Dave Mohammed is from south Trinidad. He is an excellent 20-20 bowler for T & T, famous for his ridiculous wicket celebrations including his shoephone celebration against Jamaica in the 20/20 final (he took off his shoe, put it to his ear and asked 'can you read me? No???' after disimssing the batsman with a googly).

Quote:
Congar
Hi Chris, I happen to be in your country this evening so this is a Trini welcome to Grockles!

Fantastic? Say hello to the land of the hummingbird for me, I'm currently in the UK.

I hope you are enjoying yourself. If I may ask, how do you find yourself in sweet sweet T & T?

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 06/10/2009 12:28

Looks like the competition is basically rigged up (rules wise) to ensure that an IPL ABOMINATION will win the tournament.

I sincerely hope that all the IPL teams get slaughtered.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 06/10/2009 12:43

Perhaps the fact that our team have played as a team for several months, whereas the IPL teams just get together for these one-off events, will work in our favour. Would you, for example, back England to beat any of the top Premiership sides in football?

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 06/10/2009 13:12

Under Capello? Maybe. Obviously not under McClaren.

I know what you are saying, but I think football is more of a 'team,' game than cricket, at least in the sense that when two guys are batting, it does not much matter what the other nine guys are doing (e.g. playing cards, sleeping etc).

With the likes of A C Gilcrhist and other top international stars, there are going to be certain pairings that will be very hard to stop...

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 06/10/2009 13:35

Nor under Flower and Strauss...



LoL

Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 06/10/2009 14:26

Champions League intrigues Trego

Bridesmaids’ is not a tag that sits well with Peter Trego after Somerset went close but ultimately came up short in all four domestic competitions. [www.ecb.co.uk]

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 06/10/2009 15:04

Top man is our Trigger,it's an absolute disgrace that he hasn't represented England yet.
I think we'll be fine against that bunch of show ponies,nothing at all to be scared of.
Get them out of the way and let's get down to some real business.



Trego for England

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 06/10/2009 15:28

I'd except Vaas and Gilchrist from the 'showponies' label, but one or two of the others must be in line for the No 1 Showpony award. It would, of course, be invidious to mention names.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 06/10/2009 15:33

Just put a few tins of Special Brew down for one of them and that'll be him sorted.



Trego for England

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/10/2009 08:56

Does the great Shoaib Akhtar play in the IPL?

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 07/10/2009 09:08

I am not sure if he is fit to play, he was due for an operation on his knee.

This was dated the 2nd October.

The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCcool smiley has refused to pay for a knee operation for fast bowler Shoaib Akhtar in a bid to revive his flagging international career.

Shoaib, 34, will have the operation in England next week but the PCB has said he is not entitled to treatment despite being a centrally contracted player.
[tvnz.co.nz]

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 07/10/2009 10:06

AG, I'm assuming your question re Shoaib follows on from comments in the previous posts from BJ and myself.

And, if so, you certainly have a point!

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/10/2009 10:56

Indeed, BobStan.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Chris L (IP Logged)
Date: 07/10/2009 14:32

Are Somerset playing any warm up matches before the start of the event?

T & T played their warm up match today and won by 110 runs, so all is looking good, especially as the Bravo brothers are in top form.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 07/10/2009 14:38

Yes Chris they had one today and they won it.

The Somerset Sabres comfortably won their first warm up match against Otago Volts that was played at the Gymkhana Ground in Hyderabad on Wednesday afternoon.

After being put into bat first Otago were on the back foot right from the start when Alfonso Thomas claimed a wicket in the first over, as Hamish Rutherford was brilliantly caught by wicket-keeper Craig Kieswetter diving high and to his left.


Full report. :- [www.somersetcountycc.premiumtv.co.uk]

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 07/10/2009 14:39

Bravo, T & T.

I seem to remember reading somewhere that Somerset are playing three warm-up games, but that doesn't seem possible in the time between arriving and their first match against the Chargers on Saturday.

Edit: You beat me to it - and you actually had some information. Thanks, Mike.



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Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 07/10/2009 14:45

They are playing their second one tomorrow and are saying Trescothick may be playing.

He must have got out there OK.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Chris L (IP Logged)
Date: 07/10/2009 14:46

That is what you call a comprehensive victory, especially as it was against a fellow Champions League team.

Looks like Deccan could be in trouble!

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 07/10/2009 14:49

Reading the report on the official site, it strikes me that Pedants Anonymous (Patron: Loyal of Lhasa) would be surprised that the players are coming to terms with the climate. They might need to be there for decades for that. I think it is the weather with which they are becoming familiar.

Yes, I know!

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 07/10/2009 14:50

I hope you're right, Chris.

I'd love our two sides to go through.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/10/2009 14:51

Mike - I think it said Tresco is not due to get there until tonight.

Interesting that, with Marcus unavailable, there was still no move to have Craig open the batting in the shortest form of the game, even though he is the regular opener in all other non first-class forms of the game.

I actually rather like the idea of Arul opening in T20.

I note that Langer says that the 'competition for a first-team place will be on,' once Banger arrives.

Does this mean that the team will actually be picked based on what people do in the warm-up games?

If so, it sounds like Langer should already be behind Arul and Zander in terms of putting his hand up for a place...

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 07/10/2009 14:58

Thanks AG.

I was going from what I remember reading (If correctly) that he and his family were saying somewhere and he then would take a small trip to the ground. I can't remember the exact details.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: fRed (IP Logged)
Date: 07/10/2009 15:20

Quote:
Andy Hurry said: "This was a comprehensive victory against a very flat Otago side"

Sounds like they had an accident with the roller!



Cricket's the winner.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 07/10/2009 15:23

Surely amongst the best news from that report is that Big Steff is getting a run-out!

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/10/2009 15:24

Yes, I wish they had given us his figures, though, so that we could compare his figures with the others that bowled.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 07/10/2009 15:35

Trego versus Mascarenhas and Wright on a world stage represents a massive opportuinity for our man!



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Re: Champions league India
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/10/2009 15:42

If he was not playing for Sussex, then I highly doubt that the Otago Volts would have elected to sign Luke Wright for this tournament in the way that (I assume) they have done with A D Mascarenhas.

Something tells me that Luke Wright will be one of the least productive players in this tournament.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 07/10/2009 15:48

Dimi hasn't just been signed for this, AG.
He played the whole 50 over and Twenty 20 season for Otago in 08/09.
They reached the 50 over final but lost, and won the 20 over competition on their better record in qualifying after the final had to be abandoned.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 07/10/2009 15:54

His T20 record for them:

Matches Inns NO Runs HS Ave 50 100
7 7 1 163 57* 27.16 2 0
Balls Mdns Runs Wkts BB Ave Ct St
132 0 181 7 2-26 25.85 2 0

and in 50 overs:-

Matches Inns NO Runs HS Ave 50 100
10 6 2 178 75* 44.50 2 0
Balls Mdns Runs Wkts BB Ave Ct St
504 6 294 9 3-42 32.66 2 0

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 07/10/2009 16:31

Neil Mallender played regularly for Otago.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Keith's Sweater (IP Logged)
Date: 07/10/2009 17:43

Just been having a quick glance at tournament odds. By shopping around bookmakers, you can get the following prices:
Soms to win 16/1

Top runscorer of the tournament:
Trescothick 25/1
Kieswetter  33/1
de Bruyn    50/1
Trego      100/1

Top wicket-taker:
Willoughby  40/1
Thomas      40/1
Waller      66/1
Trego       80/1
I don't think any of the above are the most likely outcomes in each category, but I think some of them are rather more likely than the odds suggest.

Best value of all though, I think, is Suppiah to be Somerset's leading runscorer at 20/1.

(Note the rubbish punter's magpie tendency towards shiny-looking long odds; I understand that seasoned gamblers adopt more considered tactics...)

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 07/10/2009 17:45

The full fixtures for the competition.

Group A: Deccan Chargers (India), Somerset Sabres (England), Trinidad & Tobago (West Indies)

Group B: New South Wales (Australia), Eagles (South Africa), Sussex Sharks (England)

Group C: Royal Challengers Bangalore (India), Cape Cobras (South Africa), Otago (New Zealand)

Group D: Delhi Daredevils (India), Victoria (Australia), Wayamba (Sri Lanka)



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

GROUP STAGE

8 Bangalore v Cobras, Bangalore

9 New South Wales v Eagles, Delhi
Delhi v Victoria, Delhi

10 Cobras v Otago, Hyderabad
Deccan v Sabres, Hyderabad

11 New South Wales v Sharks, Delhi
Delhi v Wayamba, Delhi

12 Sabres v Trinidad & Tobago, Bangalore
Bangalore v Otago, Bangalore

13 Victoria v Wayamba, Delhi
Eagles v Sharks, Delhi

14 Deccan v Trinidad & Tobago, Hyderabad

SECOND PHASE

15 C1 v D2, Bangalore

16 A2 v B2, Hyderabad
A1 v B1, Hyderabad

17 C2 v D2, Bangalore
C1 v D1, Bangalore

18 A2 v B1, Hyderabad
A1 v B2, Hyderabad

19 C2 v D1, Delhi

KNOCK-OUT PHASE

21 First semi-final, Delhi

22 Second semi-final, Hyderabad

23 Final, Hyderabad


[news.bbc.co.uk]

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 08/10/2009 06:01

Batting order is interesting. Can JL open with MT and throw caution to the winds, making not a big score but say 20 at a runa ball. Supps at 3 JH 4 CK 5Z de B 6 PT 7 ALf 8 Big Ben9 Max 10 the mighty Charl 11. On its day that is as good a proper side as you'll find anywhere. The first 9 batsmen capable of scoring quickly 4 seamers 2 spinners Zde B and a class wicket keeper.
I'm getting excited.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/10/2009 08:40

When I looked at the odds, I thought the three value options were actually;

1. T & T at 22 to 1. Windies seem to be pretty good at T20, generally and they seem to have several Windies players.

2. Victoria whatever they are called at 9 to 1 - they boast all three of Cam White, Brad Hodge and David Hussey which looks a seriously high powered batting line up to me.

3.Wayamba at 14 to 1. Mainly because they have B A W Mendis.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Keith's Sweater (IP Logged)
Date: 08/10/2009 09:20

Agree re Victoria. If I were to be placing money on this tournament, it probably wouldn't be on Somerset. Unless White counts: I think 40/1 for him to be the tournament's leading runscorer is quite generous, too.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/10/2009 10:41

Yes, I'd take Cam at 40/1.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 08/10/2009 14:58

Try this link for live streaming of the match for those who have not got SKY. [www.ustream.tv]

I don't know if it will work for everyone.


Edited to add another link. [www.webcric.com]



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Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 08/10/2009 15:42

Many many thanks for the links Mike.

I had been wondering if there was any way of viewing the tounament over here, as the Eurosport player isn't available in the North American continent.

The chance of watching SCCC 'live' may even encourage me to come out of hibernation !

Grizzzly

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 08/10/2009 15:49

That's got your heart beating again Grizzzly.


I am glad I could help.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/10/2009 16:15

Some pyrotechnics from Roscoe Taylor to kick-start this tournament - 50 odd off 24 balls, four fours, four maximums.

180 off 20 by Bangalore is the first completed innings of the tournament.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 08/10/2009 16:22

66 off the last five overs has rescued what was looking like a low-ish total.

Cobras weren't helped by the fact that Langeveldt had to leave the field after bowling 3 overs for 12 runs, and dismissing Kallis. I'm guessing his final over would have been saved for the death?



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Re: Champions league India
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 08/10/2009 16:29

Don't know but, either way, it's fair to assume that if it had been bowled 'off the reel,' then Bangalore would have been playing the final 5 overs from a slightly poorer position, than was the case.

p.s if conditions will be the stereotypical Indian ones with little or no help off the pitch for the seamers, then I am wondering whether our tactics should perhaps be such that Alfie is not introduced until the 14th over?



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Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 08/10/2009 17:32

Yeah - it might be very sensible to have a "Plan A" which has 8 overs at the start with Willo keeping one end tight, and 8 overs at the end with Thommo doing the same. Could be the best guarantee of having some reasonable degree of control for 16 out of the 20 overs.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 08/10/2009 18:00

Who needs Graeme Smith? winking smiley

JP Duminy takes a single with three balls left to level the scores and leave himself "stranded" on 99 from 52.

His partner duly knocks off the boundary, and Cobras win by 5 wickets.

Looks like a cracking opening rubber.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 08/10/2009 18:11

IPL 0 - 1 Rest of the World

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 08/10/2009 18:30

Jean-Paul Duminy, whose winning knock for Cape Cobras tonight is already being compared with Brendon McCullum`s effort on the opening night of the IPL, has strong West Country connections.

He played both Devon League and Minor County cricket in 2003,and also appeared for Devon in the Cheltenham and Gloucester Trophy match at Exmouth.

I gather he still has strong links in the area, and might be an excellent bet as an alternative 20/20 overseas import for Somerset next summer, should either Graeme Smith or Cameron White fall by the wayside.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 08/10/2009 18:55

Not a bad shout that, cj-M. And given that he's one of the bright young things of SA cricket (and a potential future captain?), the board might not look unsympathetically at a short, but developmentally worthwhile assignment.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 08/10/2009 20:18

Somerset won their second warm-up match.

Marcus was out for 0, that does not matter he is out there that is the main thing.


Peter Trego (64) and Arul Suppiah (63) were the main contributors to a Somerset score of 219 against the Hyderabad XI in a match played under floodlights.

Then Max Waller took 2-6 from three overs and there were two wickets each for Charl Willoughby and Steffan Jones as the home side were restricted to 119


Full story [www.somersetcountycc.premiumtv.co.uk]

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 08/10/2009 21:05

Our other Charl was playing for the Cape Cobras as well - opens the bowling.

Lot of players in these games - Dravid, Gibbs Kallis, Kumble

The Royals have really cool GOLD batting helmets as well (I don't think they're real though - very shiny)

Have to say - if the fielding in this tournament is anything like the Cobras then we have a real chance because they were absolutely appalling!!



(Sm72)



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Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Tractor (IP Logged)
Date: 08/10/2009 21:31

Where did this boy Jones come from?

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 08/10/2009 21:33

Black Acre Farm Eggs must be quite happy to be breaking into the Indian market as well. Wonder how their sales will pick up!!



(Sm72)

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 08/10/2009 21:35

He's on loan.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 08/10/2009 21:37

Eggscitingly Grockle!

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 08/10/2009 21:57

He's not you know Mike - he's one of ours still I do believe



(Sm72)

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 08/10/2009 22:07

He must be very confused he doesn’t know if he is coming or going, or going or coming.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 08/10/2009 22:24

Well...he is Welsh and he plays cricket so that's a starting point for coping with it.



(Sm72)

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 09/10/2009 08:48

Yep, CJM, I'd be more than happy with Duminy.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 09/10/2009 15:44

Another defeat for an IPL franchise appears imminent - 84 for 6 vs Victoria.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 09/10/2009 15:50

Victoria look very good and I've not seen Cam and his men bat yet.

Loadsa ex(and future?) Somerset men in this competition



(Sm72)

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 09/10/2009 15:51

Grockle - what are the odds of the Indians taking their ball home if their precious IPL sides are humiliated in this tournament?

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 09/10/2009 16:02

No idea AG and care almost less. I did think this competition would pitch men against boys in certain fixtures!

Surprised the Indians are suffering on their own pitches though the Indian cricket guys are effectively saying the wrong regional sides are playing on the wrong wickets (well they won the thing so they earned the right).

But they don't come up against full 'in yer face' bowling from Aussies and good fielding (though the SA's were really poor yesterday).

Not yet sure whether our domestic county sides will fare any better even though I'm really glad we didn't go down the 'pack the eleven with merceneries' route.

If we field well then we have an advantage over a number of sides here who don't seem to have any idea how to catch a ball!!



(Sm72)

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 09/10/2009 16:04

I suspect that if the IPL sides fare dismally, overall, then the rules for future competitions will be tampered with to favour the IPL teams even more than they already do.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 09/10/2009 16:17

As an aside. Did the hat maker get the head sizes wrong for the umpires? The strange black things they are wearing don't seem to fit their heads.



(Sm72)

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Chris L (IP Logged)
Date: 09/10/2009 16:31

Just thought I'd get in early and wish you guys luck for tomorrows match as I probably wont be online at the time.

May the IPL teams woes continue (Sm128)

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 09/10/2009 16:38

Quiney looks like he could be another future Somerset player!

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 09/10/2009 16:38

Cheers Chris. Whatever happens it's definitely going to be an experience for most of the boys! Hope it's a good one



(Sm72)

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 09/10/2009 16:51

Sorry but if this competition doesn't punish bowlers (Mishra) who take a wicket and then are filmed telling the batsmen to 'F Off' then this competition can do the same as something I want to see as an important cricket tournament.



(Sm72)

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 09/10/2009 16:54

Agreed, Grockle - you don't need a GCSE in Lipreading to work out what he said there!

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Streeter (IP Logged)
Date: 09/10/2009 18:31

Sorry, Grockle, didn't quite catch that. Could you say it again using different words or the same ones in a different order ?

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Streeter (IP Logged)
Date: 09/10/2009 18:33

Or I could be just having a senior moment, quite worrying when you're only 54

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Ged (IP Logged)
Date: 09/10/2009 18:42

On the eve of Somerset's debut in this tournament, I'd just like to wish all our friends at Grockles good luck and best wishes from all over at MTWD.

I don't suppose we'll be following you as avidly as you are following yourselves, but many of us will be watching and rooting for you nonetheless.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 09/10/2009 19:29

Cheers fpr the sentiments Ged - much appreciated. It's a shame you couldn't follow your own guys last year in the same way. Can't say I'm personally expecting too much but I'm hoping to be pleasantly surprised.



(Sm72)

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: VictheFish (IP Logged)
Date: 09/10/2009 23:17

Thanks Ged,

Really nice of you to pop across and say that. Not many would ...

So nice to see that cross pollination can work so well.

Having said that, did anyone see G. Swann's reaction to L. Wright's attempted catch on the boundary last week?

I can totally agree with the sentiment but others will baulk at the content.

How the hell did he not fall foul of the ICC omnipotent being over that outburst?

Wow, made my more vocifererous posts look mild!

Good old G.S.

Are we to expect more of this over the winter?

Cheers,

VtF.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 11:35

Tried signing up for the eurosport player coverage at £3.99 a month - seems pretty good value for all of the games. Anyway, the website wasn't working - wouldn't take payments. The future's not all it's cracked up to be.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: everhopefull (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 11:55

Did you confirm that the teaser video worked Bloke?

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 12:19

Justin Langer looks like he is going to open with Marcus; I think that is a good idea provided he keeps the run rate going.

All too often he has come in later and has slowed the rate down resulting in a total less than we should have had.

Good luck to all the team.

Re: Champions league India
Posted by: Keith's Sweater (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 12:20

Team near-as-dammit announced: [www.somersetcountycc.premiumtv.co.uk]

I'm sad to say I'm glad (if that makes any sense) to see Hildreth edged out of the top order, though specialist number 7 batsman doesn't sound like a role that'll last long, unless his fielding is perceived to have more value than I, at least, would attach to it (I'd rate it as creditably above average, but not match-turningly wonderful).

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: ned123 (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 13:34

did any one see the mighty vics last night?

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 13:36

The front end might alter in relation to the position of the game. Fidel Edwards and Charminda Vaas plus Symonds (looks fit but is he)? Big Game for Max Waller in the middle with some medium pace support from de Bruyn. Just can't see where the wickets are gonna come from....but I've been saying that most of the year and.....Alfonso has kept coming up with them.

Looking forward to it. I'll report on the game as it happens for those not on the telly or the net.



(Sm72)

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 13:52

You've missed an 'e,' out of the venue, Grockle.

Very pleased to see Arul promoted up the order and delighted to see Waller promoted ahead of Banks.

Mascarenhas was very effective in game 1 with the ball, so that could be a positive sign for Pete?

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Keith's Sweater (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 14:01

I may be the only person to find such things fascinating but, in case not, I thought I'd mention that you can get real-time-ish Hawk-Eye output, amongst other things, here.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 14:05

Rather surprised that we did not bat first.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 14:24

Deccan have a 100% record - of defeats - on this ground.

Can't imagine why as they have Gilchrist and Symonds and this track seems to be a belter..

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 14:51

I think Justin has more faith in chasing than holding on this. At 11 an over presently it might not have been the more sensivble choice 50 up in the 5th and the fastest of the tournament.

But Gilchrist has gone.



(Sm72)

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 15:06

Very good 8th over from B J P.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 15:10

And now Trego strikes. Seems to me we are not being outplayed here.



LoL

Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 15:15

Very, very good bowling performance so far, IMHO.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 15:17

Are you watching, Geoff Miller?

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 15:18

If this was Deccan vs England they would be 100 for 2 by now with my hero going round the park (if allowed to bowl.)

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 15:18

Trigger is the man !

Great slower ball to bowl VVS.

Getting a great internet feed here in Reno, Nevada - just love the Indian TV ads !!

Grizzzly

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 15:18

YES! Laxman goes, to PT! And the run-rate has come down a long way ...

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 15:18

Two for Trego - who's learned everything he knows from Luke Wright.



LoL

Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 15:22

LoL - the look on Laxman's face was a picture - Trego might as well have spoken to him in tongues for all the comprehension on Laxman's face..

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 15:27

18/2 off the last five overs. Magnificent.



LoL

Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Wickham (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 15:27

Great spell by BoBo - 2 for 19 from 4 overs. Disguised his slower ball really well.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 15:28

match-turning piece of fielding from Jim H to remove Symmo, too.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Keith's Sweater (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 15:29

Quote:
Frome Exile
match-turning piece of fielding from Jim H to remove Symmo, too.

touché

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 15:33

Couldn't resist it, KS. It really was an exceptionally well-judged catch, though.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Keith's Sweater (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 15:38

Yes, it was excellent.

As was Trego's extremely accurate spell.

http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr203/nrcuv/PitchMapLRPeter_Trego1255188369194.jpg

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 15:44

Styris gone, all tail-enders now. 9,10,11 are not great batsmen.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 15:51

Sooounds to me as if some of you are able to watch this through the internet. I've got live commentary on
[www.cricinfo.com]

but don't know how to get a picture.

Great bowling performance.



LoL

Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 15:52

144-8, time to clear up the tail and aim at a gettable total here.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Wickham (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 16:00

Great bowling and fielding - they did especially well to pull things back after the first few overs. So far, Somerset have looked unfazed by the hype. Let's hope that continues when they get to the crease.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 16:01

LoL - Eurosport 2 - you can access it through yahoo, but have to pay 3.99 to do so.

I think we bowled and fielded as well as could possibly be expected.

However, I'm not familiar with the Deccan attack, really, apart from Fidel Edwards and, to a lesser extent, R P Singh so I really would not like to say quite what our chances are...

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 16:02

What a superb performance by our fielders, catching and ground stuff.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 16:03

It's got to be gettable this but we need a good start and NO SLOWING down. Zander needs to come in at about 8!! and Justin needs to push on ALL THE TIME.

Marcus v Fidel - big match deciding competition.



(Sm72)

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 16:03

Hi LoL

Try this & click on any of the Channels 1 - 10 (just be prepared for lots of silly ads. popping up, but they soon disappear/can be closed):

[www.T20Rock.blogspot.com]

Grizzzly

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 16:08

Bit harsh on Zander, Grockle, after the one day season that he has had (and T20 in particular)?

I'm much more worried about Langer slowing us down.

I think it's in our best interests that Langer be dismissed before the fielding restrictions are lifted. If he's in when the field goes back, then we may have a problem

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 16:09

A marvellous performance.Let's keep it going.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 16:10

Thanks Grizzzly - and very good to see you among us once more.



LoL

Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 16:11

AGod: watch out for Ojha as well, he's a pretty nifty spinner. They have a lot of options, any five or six from the two Singhs, Ojha, Edwards, Styris, Symonds, Rao, Sharma and Suman.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 16:11

i'm watching on Eurosport through Sky. Marcus said on the hook-up whilst fielding that Som felt 180 was par.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 16:20

Testicles.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 16:23

We can still do this. Need to keep the scoreboard ticking over.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 16:28

FOR GOD'S SAKE DO NOT LET JUSTIN AND ZANDER BAT TOGETHER WHEN THE RUN RATE IS OVER FOUR AN OVER!!!

Haven't they learned anything from the end of the season?



(Sm72)

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 16:29

Looks like JL and ZdB have understood the main principle of T20 batting: hit out or get out, and don't let the dot balls pile up.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 16:31

They're OK, Grockle, I think they understand what has to be done (see my previous comment).

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 16:38

It does look like they have learned and the 'hit out or get out' plan has to work.

Zander is fine China - batting with anyone else but Justin. But time after time this year they have got together ad the momentum has just disappeared. Maybe coming at the front of the innings has helped but they have to keep it going!!



(Sm72)

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 16:40

At the moment Langer is scoring two runs per ball and ZDB 1.5 - so what's the panic?

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 16:41

Agreed, but they're experienced players and I think they know what to do here ...

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 16:43

Well, they won't be together after the power play now.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 16:45

All on the younger guys, now.

Big opportunity for them. If we don't at least make a game of this with the bat, then I think our bowlers have every right to feel rather upset after the way they performed.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 16:49

100 to get now off 13 overs. Honours even.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 16:51

We have two of the brightest prospects in English cricket playing in our colours, on A world stage. And we're up with the rate. Why on earth are we talking about 'at least making a game of it'?

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 16:54

Wheels well and truly coming off with the bat.

Quite frustrating considering we did so very well with the ball.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 16:55

As I said, watch out for Ojha, he's pretty good at this stuff. But we still have time.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:00

11 runs off the 10th over. It's still in the balance.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:01

Don't think Harmeet will get back on, unfortunately for us ...

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:05

No, the only way we'll see Harmeet might be if they get down to our last pair with loads required.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:06

It's down to Arul to manage this one to the end.



(Sm72)

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:07

We'll need to get ahead on the D/L if there's "a slight drizzle" (according to Cricinfo) ...

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:12

It's more than slight drizzle but, with Arul gone, we're not going to win by D/L or any other method, I'm afraid.

After showing remarkable sang-froid in the field, we've come nowhere close to the composure levels necessary with the bat.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:14

But you have to give some credit to Ojha here for some excellent bowling. He and RP Singh are top class players, you know.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:14

Arul went trying to get us ahead of D/L.
And it appears to have stopped raining! (Sm130)

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:17

Still raining according to Banger.

Chinaman - I think Marcus's summary was pretty much on point.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:19

Didn't hear it since I don't have the TV coverage - what did he say?

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:22

That we'd suffered for trying too many big shots that were not necessarily needed at the time.

I agree Singh bowled well. I don't think any of the others have been anything at all special (Deccan bowlers, I mean.)

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:24

It's still there for the taking ...

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:26

Glad Alfie and The Emperor haven't given it up yet.
Only one run behind the D/L after 16.
Come on lads - - - - coll heads!

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:28

And the first "ball" of the 17th is Edwards' last.
Beamer no. 2; out of the attack.
Advantage us?

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:29

especially with Edwards no balled out - though I might have quite liked him to finish at least this over.



(Sm72)

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:31

This looks like being really tight ...

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:34

Deccan have now used 9 different bowlers in a 20-over game. Is that a record?

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: fRed (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:39

*drops pin*



Cricket's the winner.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Keith's Sweater (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:41

Could you keep that racket down? Some of us are trying to watch the cricket.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: fRed (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:44

I was watching but gave up and came back when we were 7 down. Oh me of little faith.

Is a tie a tie or does it go on wickets down?



Cricket's the winner.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:45

Poor old Max having to come in, now!!

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:45

50 off 5.2 overs from the heroic Hildreth/Thomas combo.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:46

This is just a bit TOO exciting!



LoL

Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:48

That's T20 for you, LoL. Stay calm, Willo's here ...

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:50

High class stuff from Alfonso here. MOTM surely?

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:53

YEEESSSSS!

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Tractor (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:53

Arise, Sir Alfie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: fRed (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:53

Yes! Well batted Charl!



Cricket's the winner.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:53

Cricket doesn't get better than that!

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:53

wow.. amazing effort by Thommo and Hildreth.

Can't believe we did it from 99 for 7.

One big difference?

Our bowlers conceded 4 extras.

Theirs?

13.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:55

Brilliant win - and hats off to Hildreth as well as Thomas.



LoL

Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:55

The Fonz is thw man .... break out the Thatchers

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:59

Deccan managed to win the IPL despite losing every single home game they played!

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Keith's Sweater (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 17:59

And, of course, extra-special congratulations to our specialist number 7 and ace fielder.

One of the great virtues of cricket is that it teaches us that, sometimes, there's nothing sweeter than being completely and utterly wrong.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 18:00

Get in!


Shame on you doubters!

Give Thommo the freedom of the county right now.

And Thank Whatever they got there: judging by his face when he got out, I think Hildy might never have forgiven himself had they failed.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 18:01

Quite so, KS.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 18:04

Alf Thomas - awesome performance - so damn cool!



(Sm72)

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: geoff_k (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 18:07

Almost chucked it away, but thanks to Max Waller getting out at the right time we got home.

Been reading some of the background stuff before the tournament and you would be forgiven for thinking that there were any other teams in it apart from the local ones.

Could just be that the visitors (us included) are going to rain on their parade. The stadium is emptying pretty quickly by the look of it.

Come on the Fonz!

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 18:07

There is now a clear and present danger that I will develop an illness and be unable to attend work on Monday.

What time do we start - 11AM is it on Monday?

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 18:08

They're a collective 0-3 Geoff!!!

It will be so sweeet if all the IPL teams go out at the first hurdle..

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Brother Of (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 18:13

Well done lads,great team performance.
Fonz was just unbelievable tonight with both bat and ball.
Plenty more firepower still to come with the bat as well!!!



TREGO FOR ENGLAND

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 18:13

Quote:
Cricinfo
An absolute entertainer, this match after three consecutive one-sided affairs - two yesterday and one today - and may we have more ones like this in the days to come.

It's 'Somerset - The Team To Watch' all over again ...

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 18:14

winking smiley nice posts, KS and AG.

And quite so Grockle. Thommo clearly had the "collest" head in town. winking smiley

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 18:19

More than I did.

Having extolled the virtues of the internet connection, it went down just as Hilders got bowled & we needed 5 off 5 with 2 wickets left.

It is possible at that moment, that I may have uttered just a small expletive !

Great effort to get out of jail there. Great stuff.

Grizzzly

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 18:19

Bo - Pete's performance in the middle overs was absolutely bloomin brilliant!!

I suspect that one could count on one hand the number of times that a guy of Laxman's calibre has been so utterly confounded in his whole career. Definitely the ball of the day - by a distance.

Alf was excellent with the ball, too, obviously, and I thought Ben Phillips was very, very good and Zander bowled well for most of his spell.

Despite the figures, I don't think Charl did too much wrong, he just happened to be bowling to Gilchrist on a pretty damn good batting track ( A C G said afterwards that he thought his team were '40 short.')

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 18:21

It has to be said that it's a jolly good job that next year's IPL does not clash with the start of our SCCC season, because Alf will be playing in it. And after that bowling performance, Pete may very well be doing so, too.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 18:24

Does anyone play whether we play T&T on the same ground, or if we go off somewhere else?

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 18:25

Sorry FE? I didn't spell it wrong

Sent the guys a text giving Alf the freedom of every town in Somerset. I offered Taunton, Frome, Yeovil and Shepton but said he could have anywhere else he wanted.

It was interesting listening to him and remembering that he has experience of this and has played with those who have been in these situations. He quoted Jacques Kallis.

"Get it to the last over and it's anyone's!

This team did not play well with the bat.

But for those with a memory. THEY DID NOT LIE DOWN AND DIE!


Hope sprang (?) eternal and everyone supported enveryone else. Well played James Hildreth and Arul Suppiah to keep us in this. Well played the bowlers for giveing us the platform.

Great day in the morning!! I'm off for a Pint!!



(Sm72)

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 18:25

Hate to tell you, Grizzzly, but we lost by three runs and have just been making stuff up since then in an attempt to cheer ourselves up.

I also heard that England lost in the football, but there is clear evidence that they were wired up to the Hyderabad match and were not really concentrating on what they were being paid to do.



LoL

Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: everhopefull (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 18:27

If the guys can get an internet connection in India tonight, I would just like to say
WELL DONE


and if they cannot

VERY WELL DONE ANYWAY

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 18:28

Did they really lose, LoL?

[shrug}

We had far more important things to worry about, as you know.

And I actually quite like the thought of those prima donnas getting a colossal roasting from Signor Capello.

p.s. Grockle - I think FE was using a spelling intended to replicate Alf's phonetics.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: everhopefull (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 18:34

Champions League Twenty20, 8th Match, Group A: Somerset v Trinidad & Tobago at Bangalore, Oct 12, 2009

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 18:36

A wonderful, wonderful effort - and one achieved throughout with a smile on our face. We bowled and fielded with huge energy, but with humour as well. And as for Alfonso at the end, there can`t have been a cooler man in the whole of Hydrabad.

One small debating point once the euphoria has died down. Both the TV commentators, and Alfonso in this post-match interview, said Deccan were handicapped at the end by having Fidel Edwards removed from the attack by the umpires, for bowling what were obviously two waist-high deliveries.

I rather took the opposite view - that he was bowling so wildly that we had a better chance of edging a few to the boundary than from his replacement Scott Styris. Just a thought.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 18:39

And another thought is that we might well not have been in India at all had it not been for that bowl-out at Old Trafford - in which Thomas featured rather strongly as I recall.



LoL

Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 18:57

Did we win?


(Sm152)(Sm152)(Sm152)

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 19:19

No Grockle - - - I mis-spelled "cool" a few posts earlier! I was having a pop at myself!

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Chris L (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 19:32

Oh yes! IPL team number 3 suffers as well. Congrats Somerset!

Of course I hope you get thrashed on Monday but I was with you 100% today.

Btw there is something in the water in Barbados that makes express pace bowlers deliver beamers. Tino Best, Kemar Roach and now Fidel Edwards have been removed from the attack in major matches for bowling beamers.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 19:58

I believe I am right in recalling that Saint Alfonso was also removed for the same reason earlier in the season. but he can do no wrong.



LoL

Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 20:03

You are correct LoL, Yorkers that went wrong.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 20:35

I think the second was a mixture of trying to get a Yorker length delivery first up and a damp ball but I have to agree with others Chris. I wouldn't have minded if he had bowled. he as less of a handful than Singh and that Styris guy!! What a great last over from the old warrior,.

And wasn't Gilchrist awesome behind the stumps?



(Sm72)



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Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 20:40

Well done lads, that should get us noticed worldwide now, top job

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 21:02

Great team performance this evening. Everyone contributed - even Max making sure they crossed when he was out - but Alfie was absolutely heroic.

If only I cared about this competition...

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 21:11

I'm just glad the lawmakers hadn't seen LoL's insistent posting that the "crossing" rule is illogical!

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 22:16

I'm totally with CJM . I was gutted at the time when Edwards couldn't bowl because I thought he was our best chance of runs. We were superb. Is there anyone who thinks Willows real name is Willoughbynotoutnought. Awesome refusal to try a run off the penultimate ball. Everybody had their thinking caps on all the way through. Roll on Monday.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 22:18

FE: I never said that that totally illogical rule had to apply to Somerset.

SP: I care little for the competition either, but I do care that we should perform at our best on a world stage. I'd guess you agree with me about that.



LoL

Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: TykesRUs (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 23:23

Also posted this on another thread.
Great win for you guys and a tremendous knock for my namesake (Alfie).Also good to see Marcus looking so relaxed and happy.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 23:24

The great thing about good sides is they win when they underperform!

We won tonight and we weren't great.

We were a unit and we pulled together but the bowlers gave us the base to win and we almost threw it away.

Panic in the middle ranks nearly sent us away losers but we got our collective stuff together and kept at it.

If we beat T and T and come up against the likes of Victoria we are gonna need to be on top of our game and we're not there yet - but we ARE still in it so there's time.



(Sm72)

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Tractor (IP Logged)
Date: 10/10/2009 23:38

I don't want to assume anything here, but IF we beat Trinny and Susannah on Monday, what happens next? Do we go into another league or is it straight knockout and we go on to win the 3s/- 6d (to the power of xxxxx) in the final?
Real shame it aint on local telly (not even highlights - surely RO GERMAL ONE could have done something for ITV CORNWALL_DEVON_SOMERSET_DORSET_GLOUCESTERSHIRE).
Extra liquid portions tonight on the back of that win. Considering a curry Monday night.
C'MON MY BABBIES!!!!!

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Wickham (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 07:31

The whole team showed great character - the bowlers in pegging back the scoring rate with some skilful and canny bowling; the fielders, who were alert, quick, made some good stops and catches and who - so far as I can remember - made no nervous fumbles; and the batsmen who kept us in touch - particularly Hildreth and Thomas, who put together a match-winning partnership when the odds were stacked against them.

Many more matches like that one, and this could catch on.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 08:12

To the people who apparently "don't care" about this competition - you'll care all right if we beat all the odds (and all the opposition) and actually win it.

Somerset CCC World Champions would have a pretty good ring to it, don't you think? And it would be in the inaugural tournament too. Down in the history books forever, the first name on the list decades from now when T20 will (in all likelihood) have completely taken over as the major form of world cricket.

Still sure you don't care?

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 08:13

LoL: you're absolutely right.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 08:14

Chinaman: you're absolutely right also - I'll care when we win it, but up until that point (and in the unlikely event that we don't win it), it's a silly little money-generating exercise.
(Sm13)

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 08:20

SP: OK, perhaps right now the tournament looks like "a silly little money-generating exercise". But as I said before, wait a few years and it may be genuinely THE premier club tournament everybody wants to be part of.

In my book, anything that promotes cricket worldwide and takes the sport forward can't be bad. T20's the future, like it or not.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 08:21

I don’t like 20/20 but will watch it and support Somerset in what ever they are playing, that’s what we do if we support Somerset.

I don’t watch any of the other 20/20 matches (I may watch Sussex), if Somerset or England are playing 20/20 I watch it.


Edited put incorrect team.



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Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Tractor (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 09:28

" T20's the future, like it or not."
You forgot the, "... and no returns, either!".

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: everhopefull (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 09:30

With you on that Mike.



If we win, apart from the money do we get automatic entry into next years competion.


You can see were I got my name from.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Keith's Sweater (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 09:35

I think that one of the great defences of T20 cricket (and I'll defend it at great length, though I won't put you through the unexpurgated version now) is that, unlike any other form of the game, it really does lend itself to relatively compact and exciting knockout tournaments. The fact that - like a soccer world cup - you can get through a couple of fixtures a day or more and ask each team to play several times a week enables a fast-paced tournament structure that can generate some real momentum.

While no one in their right mind would argue the superiority of T20 over proper cricket, we have to accept that there's absolutely no way to have the fun of a knockout tournament in the red-ball game. Moreover, I, for one, am delighted to do without the longueurs that seem inherent in 50-over cricket, both in the games themselves and in the invariably long-winded tournaments the game produces (I don't really remember much about the last cricket world cup, but I do remember that it went on for about seventeen weeks).

For this reason, above all, both the international T20 tournaments have been really engaging, I think, and this competition looks exactly the same (only more so, for those of us who share the degree of personal investment we saw on this thread yesterday). I think it's worth remembering that, for all its shortcomings as a true sporting contest, this super-concentrated format of the game enables us to have this kind of fun in a pretty unique way. Imagine the state we're all going to be in if Somerset really do get to the final...

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 09:39

When they were about 80 off 6 overs it would have been easy to fold and hide away. But a marvelous fightback in middle overs led by a superb Trigger gave us a total that was very reachable. Our fielding was very tight. Only remember one misfield from Craig following a wild throw from the the boundary by Willo. Our catching was very assured unlike many of the other sides I have seen in this jamboree.

Good start was followed by nervy shots in middle and wickets rather given away. Great fight back by the Emperor (who seems to have got his cloths back!) and the Fonz.

What a VERY exciting last over - Styris goes W0W but the height of the ball from Max allowed the Fonz to face the last two deliveries. Cool hardly described the Fonz - he was sub-thermal!!

A wonderful team performance and a way to put us very much on the World T20 map!! Keep it up lads - relishing Monday lready!!

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: everhopefull (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 09:53

And if you want some more of it.
Watch the antics of the game plus highlights.


Here

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 11:47

hina's statement really ought to read - "T20 is part of the future like it or not."

I think some worry that China's original statement is actually true!!

I'll watch good cricket played by good players whatever the format.

Duminy's innings was beautifully constructed irrespective of the format.

The catch of Gibbs in the same match would have graced any cricket match with its presence

Alf's cool headed management of the run to a winning total was impressive because it was impressive

Peter Trego's four over spell was a good four over spell and his slow ball to remove Laxman removed a classy test batsman on a wicket that favoured the batsman - good cricket.

The problem I have is that ALL formats create those good cricketers and the skills they have.

Tests teach a player the need for technical excellence and the flexibility that allows because of the breadth of skill

One day cricket teaches players how to manage an innings or attack a batsman and what "pacing" means.

T20 is explosive and requires the use of all those skills to get the most from the ball in the least amount of time with bat or as a bowler.

Good cricket will be played at all levels by good players and Good T20 comes from the development of good long format players with the patience, skills and timing developed over four and five day games merged with an understanding of how to generate a maximum score over a time contrained session.

That is what will make T20 an accepted part of the cricket world.

If the controllers see it as the only format of the game then we will generate 'hit em and hope' baseball players facing non descript bowlers trying to bowl 24 yorkers at maximum speed with the odd slow ball to fool the idiots at the other end trying to hit the leather off it.

T20 needs Test cricket and Test cricket needs T20 and if the people who actually understand that get their way we'll have exciting short games played by great players who grace the game with their skills. Long live the T20 format - but not at the expense of the death of the rest of the game. Long live Tests as well.



(Sm72)

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 12:17

This isn't intended as any criticism of anyone's posts, purely an observation; but isn't if funny how we talk about our players being hot-headed, or giving it away, or playing shots they didn't really need to, but seem keener to credit our bowlers with the dismissals of Gilchrist and Symonds? Did either of them really "need" to hit hit the big shots when they did?
Allan Donald's live commentary of Craig's dismissal gave a very interesting insight into the way in which hindsight can change the way a particualr moment is viewed. "SHOT!!!!!!!...........It's going to be caught....and it is........Not a good shot": and an over later he was describing the shot over which he momentarily purred, as stupid and needless. Fine lines, eh folks!

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 13:25

A good win,well played boys.



Trego for England

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 13:50

We could see the first IPL team eliminated from the competition in the next few hours.
It'll be interesting to see how the crowds react if that happens.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 17:28

Just caught up with yesterday's news; a spirited all-round performance by Somerset.

Well done and many congratulations to everybody.

Onwards and upwards.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 17:31

"This isn't intended as any criticism of anyone's posts, purely an observation; but isn't if funny how we talk about our players being hot-headed, or giving it away, or playing shots they didn't really need to, but seem keener to credit our bowlers with the dismissals of Gilchrist and Symonds? Did either of them really "need" to hit hit the big shots when they did? "

I would cite one difference here, FE.

That would be that I think it was commonly supposed that a winning score was going to be 180+. That seemed to be the opinion of both Tres and Gilchrist. The earlier game saw a team score 190+ batting first.

By the time SCCC batted, we knew full well we did not need a score of more than 180.

I do, somewhat, take your overall point, though, but I think the above explains, partly, the difference.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 12:39

Grockle is of course absolutely correct in his observations here. T20 and test cricket need each other, and both are valid forms of the game.

What I wanted to express is that I am genuinely puzzled by those who seem to reject T20 as worthless. It's an exciting variant with its own set of skills, and with its TV-friendly format it provides an opportunity for cricket to expand its appeal to a wider audience worldwide, potentially reaching new countries where cricket hasn't previously been popular.

Which can only be good, surely?

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 15:45

I've not been to a live T20 game, largely because I've not been in the right place at the right time, and so am in no position to comment in any great depth My impression is that a majority of games (like today's but unlike Saturday's) are far from exciting. However, the idea of watching bold batting, mean bowling and brilliant fielding certainly has its appeal and I have no doubt that the format deserves a place alongside other formats - where the very skills mentioned above will be best developed.

And I enjoy the noise of a noisy crowd... but the loud and irrelevant music would not enhance my personal enjoyment of the spectacle.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 16:02

I thought the TV commenators were not inconsiderably over the top on Satruday, LoL.

Re: High drama in Hydrabad?
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 16:29

All that stuff about tonsorially challenged men was indeed peurile in the extreme, but I never did have a sense of humour.



LoL

Sixty-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Recording of Deccan Chargers game
Posted by: geoff_k (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 08:02

Curses, Curses, drat and double drat.

I recorded the game last night but due to the vagaries of Sky+ the recording stops just as Max Waller is out thus missing the important bit.

Has anybody else done a recording and be able to do me a copy?

Re: Recording of Deccan Chargers game
Posted by: everhopefull (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 09:25

geoff, highlights are available here

ESPN


then select CLT20
Not the best pictures, but better than nothing.

Re: Recording of Deccan Chargers game
Posted by: Keith's Sweater (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 09:49

Another online source (may be a bit shadier and may not last indefinitely):

[cricket-online.tv]

Re: Recording of Deccan Chargers game
Posted by: geoff_k (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 10:55

Thanks chaps. Saw those, but I don't think I can download them so that I can try to add them to what I already have.

I think the problem happened because a second recording started toward the end of the game. My Sky+ box is probably in need of a reboot as I am having problems with subtitles and other stuff.

Re: Recording of Deccan Chargers game
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 10:58

Thanks all, much appreciated.

EH, in answer to your query (about subscribing to the live eurpsport feed) on another thread, I did tick the teaser box and went through to payment, but that's where it failed, although the card and details were fine. The problem was that each time it failed it wouldn't let retry with the same email address. Once I tried 4 or 5 times, I ran out of email addresses, so gave up!

Re: Recording of Deccan Chargers game
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 11:08

I wonder if it is to do with Eurosport EPG, if the Sky box uses that to record it is no wonder the recording goes wrong.

Yesterday it said the Somerset game starts at 3.30 in fact it started not long after 3pm.

Re: Recording of Deccan Chargers game
Posted by: Aidan11 (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 11:13

The Eurosport EPG is unreliable a lot of the time. Never seems to stick to the correct schedule.

Re: Recording of Deccan Chargers game
Posted by: wurzelpotter (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 16:11

I Wondered why the game had started already when my sky+ box prompted me to turn over at half three! Useful to know, as I'll have to record Mondays game.

Coverage on Eurosport is interesting to say the least - a back to basics approach perhaps?

Re: Recording of Deccan Chargers game
Posted by: Aidan11 (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 17:59

The coverage was even worse for the game that followed the Sussex defeat today. They didn't show it at all, preferring the snooker instead.

Re: Recording of Deccan Chargers game
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 18:42

The same thing, of course, happened to me, Geoff. I was away last night, but was able to see the ESPN highlights, but to sit through the whole match, then miss the finale!!!!!!

Re: Recording of Deccan Chargers game
Posted by: everhopefull (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 19:10

Bloke, only mentioned that as my son does not have Sky at his house but he signed on-line up the night before, and it went through ok (second time)

But very frustrating for those that did not get on-line.

Re: Recording of Deccan Chargers game
Posted by: Lydeard Rob (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 21:19

I signed up with Eurosport in the middle of last week, despite repeated attempts to get in touch with them using their Contact us page, I still have not managed to be connected.
edited to correct spellings



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Re: Recording of Deccan Chargers game
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 22:03

My Eurosport coverage worked fine.

Re: Recording of Deccan Chargers game
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 22:51

I watched the Eurosport OK yesterdat but it didn't record the Sussex game today in a watchable format.

Re: Recording of Deccan Chargers game
Posted by: Slow Left Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 12:00

Eurosport is a terrible chanel - the start and finish times are only a rough guidleine so I think your record will have just stopped when the prog should have stopped - just have to recored the programme after next time!

Re: Recording of Deccan Chargers game
Posted by: geoff_k (IP Logged)
Date: 13/10/2009 14:08

My son reckoned they were breaking off in the middle of overs to go the the ads, but I must confess I didn't notice if that was the case.

It's nice to have the games to watch again especially during those long dark winter months. It's not every day Somerset play in such a tournament.

Hopefully the result will go their way tomorrow and I will get another chance.

The Champions League
Posted by: edinburghbil (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 14:51

First of all, I'd like to add my congratulations on yesterday's win and to admit that I gave up hope prior to Alfie and Hilda's stand,

Anyway, to the point. Is this of any financial benefit to the club ? It would be good for us if it were like the footy champions league and just qualifying would wet us up financially for the next year or two.

Whilst the players deserve any rewards they get, its the club I'd like to see benefit from this. Anyone know the details ?



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Re: financial rewards of champions league
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 16:12

The funds up to now have favoured the players rather than their clubs - not surprising as some country sides are made up of internationals employed to play this version of the game only on a yearly basis

Not sure whether that is different at this end level



(Sm72)

Re: financial rewards of champions league
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 16:39

I found it.

Prize Money The total prize money fund for the CLT20 Season is $6 million and will be distributed by CLT20 as follows:

Finals/League Position

Prize (US$)

Final Winner
2,500,000

Runner up
1,300,000

Each losing Semi Finalist
500,000

5th – 8th place in the League table
200,000

9th – 12th place in the League table
100,000

[www.clt20.com]

Re: financial rewards of champions league
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 18:24

and Fonz got $2500 for MoM last night - don't know how much Trigger got for the most economic bowler.



(Sm72)

Re: financial rewards of champions league
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 18:56

Enough $ there to "wet us up", surely?
(Sm14)

Re: financial rewards of champions league
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 19:01

Strongly suspect almost all the money goes directly to the players.

Re: financial rewards of champions league
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 11/10/2009 19:31

It was about 80%:20% on the first payments. Then again, 20% of $1m is still a decent bucket of cash.



(Sm72)

Re: financial rewards of champions league
Posted by: Slow Left Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 08:36

I heard somewhere (can't remember where) a 70:30 player:club split.

Re: financial rewards of champions league
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 09:18

I think I heard on Radio Five this morning (I was half asleep) Brian Rose say they are sponsored by a drinks company, that should cover their expense of going.

Re: financial rewards of champions league
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 09:28

"Royal Stag", a Seagram's whisky brand, has appeared on their shirt-sleeves.

Re: financial rewards of champions league
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 11:26

I think he said they had Pepsi on their shirts - I can't say I noticed it on Saturday, but I think that's what he said.

Re: financial rewards of champions league
Posted by: PaddedUp (IP Logged)
Date: 13/10/2009 18:43

The prize money is in $ - with the £ tanking that's a significant extra bonus for them.

Just need to win it now - come on Trinidad and Tobago!

Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 08:26

They have eight Windies players in their ranks.

I think I would like to bat first, this time around.

The reason I say that is that I think the Windies, in recent years, have tended to fold under the pressure of chasing runs.

I also suspect that Banger might be better off batting first, in that he might be more likely to set himself to bat through most of our innings. I think if Banger does bat through most of the innings, an SCCC win is an overwhelming probability.



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Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: Slow Left Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 08:41

D Ganga*, S Badree, A Barath, DJ Bravo, DM Bravo, RR Emrit, S Ganga, D Mohammed, SP Narine, WKD Perkins, KA Pollard, D Ramdin†, R Rampaul, LMP Simmons, ND Stewart


Only player I'd want in Somerset squad is Dwayne Bravo.

Although I think Dave Mohammed has a fantastic name.

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 08:42

I think that this strangely, given the overwhelming odds difference, is a more difficult game than the first one.

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 10:22

I'm working so you'll have to occupy yourselves during this one but I did like this on Cricinfo;

The Somerset Dressing Room

Good Luck Lads



(Sm72)

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 10:25

They won the toss and will bat.

Langer would also have batted.

They have three spinners, and it is expected to turn.

Weather might be suspect (cloudy and cool).

If it's rained off, then I think that would, of course, send us through.

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 10:34

Thanks Grockle: AG and I (despite the fact we're both(?) working) will try and fill the void.

Like the CricInfo piece, too. There's a good one from the same page about Harmy.

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 10:36

Our team is unchanged, by the way.

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 10:37

New ball already kept low from Thomas.

A bit worrying, and not only because we have to bat second, but because most Windies pitches these days seem to be slow and low, so they may be very familiar conditions for the T&T guys?

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 10:46

Seems to be a tyical Windies innings, so far, either four or bust. We've bowled an excellent number of dots but they'll probably be happy with their number of fours.

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 10:51

Phillips is the man again, as Simmons carves him to Thommo at third man.
That'll please botham! winking smiley

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 10:54

And Bravo (Jr.) is off the mark with a six, to give Ben figures thus far of 1 over, 1 for 17.

And Willo removes the other opener from the first ball of his third over, having changed ends.



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Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 10:56

And they (briefly) had two not out batsmen, with one hitting six off one ball and the other four off one ball.

The way they are playing, I think they will probably either score millions, or be bowled out for less than 120...

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 10:59

3 down, Brave gone too.

59 for 3 at end of powerplay.

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 11:00

60-4



Trego for England

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 11:00

Max on immediately at end of power play!!

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 11:00

Willo has now snaffled a good reflex return catch to remove Bravo off the seventh ball of his third over.
Who says all wides are bad?

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 11:01

Y!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He's got your mate, first ball, FE!!!!

WALLER WALLER WALLER.

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: redtauntonian (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 11:01

60-4 bravo gone for 0

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 11:01

And Max strikes with his third ball, and Bravo (Snr's) first!
Get in!

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: redtauntonian (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 11:02

come on arul join the party!!!!

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 11:03

And he's sending down
Quote:
CricInfo
a super googly
in his first over. Top stuff!

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: ned123 (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 11:14

trego dropped a simple catch and next ball waller bowls ganga through his legs. 90-5

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 11:15

Max has just removed Darren Ganga, too. A very timely breakthrough.

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: redtauntonian (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 11:15

90-5 waller

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: redtauntonian (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 11:17

banger just took one on the middle stump he was in alot of pain!!!!!

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 11:21

Need to get Ramdin soon.

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 11:25

8 overs, 2 for 46 from our spinners.

They have three of them.

I'd suggest that, unless we totally muller them on the powerplay, then the performance of the T & T spinners is likely to prove decisive.

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: ned123 (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 11:28

pete looks like he wont bowl today..?

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 11:29

Might even be an argument for your previously mooted suggestion of keeping Banger back? Open with Craig and Justin?
They won't be expecting it!

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 11:31

If you want to go for the unexpected open with Charl.Nobody will expect that!

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: redtauntonian (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 11:36

126-6 3 overs left

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: redtauntonian (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 11:39

128-7 17.3

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: redtauntonian (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 11:52

somerset need 151 to win they finished 150-9

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 11:55

TV commentators seem to think T&T have a 'good total,' on this track.

And yes, FE, I'd consider holding Banger back until after the power-play, with a view to batting through the rest of the innings vs the spinners.

I highly doubt Langer will consider it, though.

Other than Dwayne Bravo (who will, presumably, take the new ball?) I've no idea what their other seamers are like?

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: Slow Left Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 11:56

Very good bowling by everyone apart from over 19 from Phillips.

Got the Eurosport on - picture trouble very annoying!

Suppiah I think, didn't go for a single boundary in 4 overs.

TT showed the nativity you may expect from them - they looked like they were chasing 300.

Should be a gettable total, especially as we know what we're playing for, but do need to take advantage of the powerplay.

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 11:58

I see Cricinfo also think it's a good score on a slow pitch. Good to see Langer adapting to conditions by giving Max and Arul their full quota instead of ZdB and PT - what a great team we have!

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 11:58

Feeling "Christmassy," were they?

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: redtauntonian (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 12:02

i think it is a gettable score but they have 3 spinners, remember gloucestshire home in the 20-20 they tied us right up!!!!

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: ned123 (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 12:02

this game will depend on 2 things. how many we make in the powerplay/how many wickets we loose and 2 is how we play there spinners.

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 12:04

Why are all the cheerleaders white?

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 12:08

Ravi Rampaul is a decent quick bowler, AG.
30 wickets in 36 ODI at an economy rate of under 5.

Kieron Pollard has 7 wickets in 10 T20 Internationals with his brisk medium-pacers.

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: Slow Left Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 12:09

And why do they all look so apathetic?

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: Slow Left Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 12:20

Damn.

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: ned123 (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 12:21

tresco plays a nothing shot and edges it

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: redtauntonian (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 12:21

balls banger out 13-1

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 12:21

Tres might not be getting that IPL contract!

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 12:21

Testicles again. No Banger vs the spinners.. yikes.

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 12:26

Rampaul is knocking on the door of 90 mph.

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 12:28

Batting looks very difficult out there. Both opening bowlers are getting it to nip around.

At the very least we need to get close to their score, to maximise our chances of still going through if we do not win the game.

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 12:31

And the first spinner tried looked decent, too.

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: redtauntonian (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 12:36

26-2 craig gone

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 12:36

And not the kind of innings that will help Craig's England ODI chances either.

We might just have to hope that T&T can beat Deccan..

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 12:36

angry smiley



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009:10:12:12:42:16 by Exiled Tim.

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 12:38

Quite right, Tim.
Keep the faith everyone!

Shame for Craig though.

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: redtauntonian (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 12:39

or maybe not tim!!!!

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 12:41

28 for 3.

T & T have bowled really well (apart from the litany of wides) but this has been poor.

Maybe there's an element of after the Lord Mayor's show after playing in front of a huge crowd in Hyderabad?

Then again, the top order batting was not very good in that one, either.

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 12:41

Oooops!

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 12:43

Took that sickie then, AG?

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: redtauntonian (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 12:44

this is silly batting, suppiah just been dropped too

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 12:44

Nope, FE. Working extra time around it to allow to watch over lunch.

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 12:48

Nice!

Re: Somerset vs Trinidad & Tobago
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/10/2009 12:49