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Re: The Hundred
AGod 16 May, 2019 09:46
Clarrie Grimmett would not have fit the bill, either .

Re: The Hundred
Phantom 16 May, 2019 09:47
I think the biggest irony is that "we" England / ECB are holding the 50 over world cup the year prior to them ripping up the 50 over tournament.

By the time the next world cup comes around you watch England have a shocker and then all the commentators (and anyone with a voice) will blame it on the lack of a competitive 50 over comptition

Re: The Hundred
AGod 16 May, 2019 10:10
THat won't necessarily happen, depending on how many new players need to be introduced for said World Cup ... because 50 overs will continue at international level ... the current England players seldom play in the domestic comp anyway.

Re: The Hundred
Phantom 16 May, 2019 10:15
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AGod
THat won't necessarily happen, depending on how many new players need to be introduced for said World Cup ... because 50 overs will continue at international level ... the current England players seldom play in the domestic comp anyway.
True, so those involved with England will play, but means nobody outside that group will get any other playing time?

Re: The Hundred
AGod 16 May, 2019 10:20
Yes, it means that, if there's an injury crisis, then there'll be trouble.

One assumes that England will rotate a group of 16 or so in international 50 over cricket, over the next four years.

But, if an injury crisis or collective loss of form occurs? They might struggle to find replacements - depending, of course, on whether or not one views T20 as any kind of worthwhile proxy for 50 over stuff.

Re: The Hundred
Grockle 16 May, 2019 10:36
Well they obviously do but then again they have no bloody clue it seems on a pretty daily basis.



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Re: The Hundred
Grizzers 16 May, 2019 10:50
Good piece by Mike Atherton:

[www.thetimes.co.uk]

Grizzzly

Re: The Hundred
Rod1883 16 May, 2019 11:35
Pay content only Grizzly?

Re: The Hundred
Grizzers 16 May, 2019 12:21
Sorry, should have mentioned- just register for two free articles.

Basically says that the ECB shouldn’t ignore loyal cricket supporters in its quest to reinvent the wheel.

Grizzzly

Re: The Hundred
AGod 16 May, 2019 18:18
Per the ES, a massive new row has broken out between Surrey and the ECB, with the result that Surrey have pledged to never again share ticket sales data after it was ‘’deliberately misrepresented by the ECB.’

Re: The Hundred
AGod 16 May, 2019 18:24
Richard Gould says figures given were entirely wrong.

Re: The Hundred
AGod 16 May, 2019 18:25
‘We are blocking any access to our data until we receive assurances as to its use.’ (Gould)

‘The ECB declined to comment.’ (ES)

Re: The Hundred
Mike TA1 16 May, 2019 20:53
I welcome Richard Gould back to the best county today, he said thanks very much.

Re: The Hundred
Somerset LaLaLa 16 May, 2019 21:35
So Surrey are standing up to the ECB. Now can we do the same please?

Re: The Hundred
AGod 16 May, 2019 21:46
We did vote against Graves continuing in power. But only Surrey, Essex and Kent joined us.

Re: The Hundred
Grockle 17 May, 2019 00:56
According to their press stuff, they surveyed the UN! Didn't seem to bother to survey the West of England though.



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Re: The Hundred
Bagpuss 17 May, 2019 06:47
Perhaps it should be called the UNdred then

Re: The Hundred
Loyal of Lhasa 17 May, 2019 15:56
Nor the great Chris Greetham - or Carl Gazzard.

(a propos the comment on Graves and Grayling)



LoL

Seventy-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 17/05/2019 15:59 by Loyal of Lhasa.

Re: The Hundred
Mike TA1 21 May, 2019 07:20
After listening to this I was none the wiser. [www.bbc.co.uk]

Re: The Hundred
Nailsea_Fizz 21 May, 2019 09:09
Indeed Mike, he seemed to be permanently searching for a coherent explanation of the benefits and aims of the whole thing.

Re: The Hundred
Angell Face 21 May, 2019 09:10
It would help if Harrison could string two coherent sentences together.

Re: The Hundred
somexile 23 May, 2019 07:36
Not surprised that the photo along with the press release was not from a cricket match in England. - would not have looked good to have folk wearing Somerset CCC sun hats in the picture.

Re: The Hundred
AGod 23 May, 2019 07:42
Such folk are ‘the enemy of the future of the game,” - a future which now, apparently, consists of folks who have, hithertofore, shown zero interest in cricket.

Seriously, one can see their point about needing to develop a younger audience but I can’t see how creating an execrable new product is going to meet that aim.

Re: The Hundred
Loyal of Lhasa 24 May, 2019 11:55
... or how alienating many of the existing audience is going to contribute to the well-being of the game.



LoL

Seventy-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: The Hundred
AGod 24 May, 2019 15:05
To be frank, all the ECB actually needed to do was to keep to the 18 County format.

If they wanted to, they could have changed the rules to an IPL style 4 overseas players per team (to try to upgrade the quality of the play). They could also have switched to a two division format, to raise the standard of the better teams.

They could still have introduced their "innovations," such as bowling all of the balls from one end, or only having 16.4 overs, or what have you and I think most fans of the game would have thought "well, some of the ideas are a bit funny, but my team is playing and so, yeah, I'll go along and watch a game."

The target market for this competition was supposed be an Indian one (and reached by TV). But all most Indian fans care about is watching their players. If Tendulkar were playing, it would matter not one with whether he were playing for "Birmingham," or "Warks," "London," or Surrey." The Indian thing was supposed to be the original idea and games were, accordingly, going to be played on weekday afternoons for the benefit of Indian primetime TV and with the additional aim of bringing the kids in on their school holidays.

But they seem to be obsessed with the idea that people will only watch games in cities, this despite the fact that almost nobody goes to watch cricket in Bristol or Cardiff.. and despite the fact that games in the North, outside of the Roses clash, are sparsely attended in the T20 forma.t

Re: The Hundred
geordie moonraker 24 May, 2019 15:37
There is one sentence in AGod's piece-which is spot on- which sums up the whole thing
"my team is playing ". In this format no one's team is playing because you can't just call a team "Cardiff" and have instant loyalty. I'd watch Somerset 3rds play tiddlywinks because of long held tribal loyalty whereas in a pick up game no one cares who wins and competition is the essence of professional sport.

Re: The Hundred
Bagpuss 24 May, 2019 21:32
Another concern is that once you have a "competition" which is little more than an exhibition event, with a disparate group of "stars" who have little in the way of long-term loyalty to their team mates (who will change, year-on-year dependant on the draft) or the faked-up badge they are wearing, you have a situation where corruption will find easier bedfellows.

Re: The Hundred
Bagpuss 25 May, 2019 03:52
Fear and Loathing in English Cricket's Fraying Heartland. A long but excellent piece by Andy Bull for the Guardian. I can't post the link but it's worth a read.

Re: The Hundred
Grizzers 25 May, 2019 08:15
Thanks Bagpuss.

Here’s the link, but those of a sensitivite disposition may need some anti nausea tablets before the end bit which discloses Tom Harrison’s pay rise and massive salary;

[www.theguardian.com]

Grizzzly

Re: The Hundred
Grockle 25 May, 2019 10:47
Well you've got to spend the £40m somewhere people. The setup is nearly all already in place as we have a short form tournament in progress - the Blast! - in domestic cricket at the moment which will continue (successfully I hope).



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