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Leeds Astraylia - England v Australia, Headingley
Discussion started by Bagpuss , 21 August, 2019 09:42
Leeds Astraylia - England v Australia, Headingley
Bagpuss 21 August, 2019 09:42
So no Steve Smith who has been ruled out with concussion. Just two teams of mere mortals left to face each other. I have a sneaky suspicion Australia will bring in Starc, he must be champing at the bit by now and he has a bit of 'home ground' knowledge. Not sure who they'd drop though. Siddle may have fewer wickets but he does provide control.

England likely unchanged, so long as the Lord's workload hasn't broken Archer.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 27/08/2019 19:29 by Grockle.

Re: Leeds Astraylia - England v Australia, Headingley
Bagpuss 21 August, 2019 10:07
And J-Roy has passed a concussion test, having been hit on the head in the nets yesterday.
He was receiving throw-downs from...Marcus Trescothick!

Re: Leeds Astraylia - England v Australia, Headingley
AGod 21 August, 2019 10:40
Oh good - what a relief that is. NOT.

Re: Leeds Astraylia - England v Australia, Headingley
AGod 21 August, 2019 10:43
I think Starc *might* be getting saved for the two grounds most likely to suit reverse - OT and the Oval.

I also consider those two grounds to be the two *least* likely to suit Peter Siddle.

So I think Starc for Siddle at those grounds, for sure.

Whether that move will happen here, I'm less sure.

If it looks like there's going to be plenty of cloud cover, they *might* be well advised to keep Siddle.

Hazlewood, one would think, a certain starter if forecast for cloud etc. Cummins, I think, too good to drop?

Re: Leeds Astraylia - England v Australia, Headingley
Des Platt 21 August, 2019 20:48
Quote:
Bagpuss
And J-Roy has passed a concussion test, having been hit on the head in the nets yesterday.
He was receiving throw-downs from...Marcus Trescothick!

Rumour is that he got one of the concussion questions wrong , he thought he was playing a one day game.

Re: Leeds Astraylia - England v Australia, Headingley
AGod 21 August, 2019 20:49
hahahaahahahah

Re: Leeds Astraylia - England v Australia, Headingley
Loyal of Lhasa 22 August, 2019 20:53
Des: I reckon that's the best posting of this year's Edinburgh Fringe.

Great Bowling by Archer again today. I wonder if he realises that Labuschagne owes him at least a pint.



LoL

Seventy-one Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Leeds Astraylia - England v Australia, Headingley
Somerset LaLaLa 23 August, 2019 11:26
Uh-oh, Jason Roy.

AG will be along in a minute

Re: Leeds Astraylia - England v Australia, Headingley
Tom Seymour 23 August, 2019 11:31
C'mon AG, C'mon AG, C'mon AG,

COME ON!



A glass half - empty or a glass half - full?
Regardless, both glasses need filling up.

Re: Leeds Astraylia - England v Australia, Headingley
Grockle 23 August, 2019 11:40
Like buses they come in 3s



(Sm72)

Re: Leeds Astraylia - England v Australia, Headingley
hantssabre 23 August, 2019 11:55
It’s a good job the weather conditions are more favourable for batting today. Has anybody told the England batsmen that!

Re: Leeds Astraylia - England v Australia, Headingley
hantssabre 23 August, 2019 12:19
Looks like Jack will have to bail the batting out again!

Re: Leeds Astraylia - England v Australia, Headingley
mikeindex 23 August, 2019 13:34
Quote:
Bagpuss
And J-Roy has passed a concussion test, having been hit on the head in the nets yesterday.
He was receiving throw-downs from...Marcus Trescothick!
Marcus hit him on the head with a throw-down?
Where was he aiming?

Re: Leeds Astraylia - England v Australia, Headingley
hantssabre 23 August, 2019 15:10
Cracking first ball from Leach bowls Harris

Re: Leeds Astraylia - England v Australia, Headingley
AGod 23 August, 2019 23:18
Got to be the worst England batting side of my lifetime. I mean, just truly pathetic. Yes, Bayliss made a triumph of our white ball cricket but he’s blurred the lines between white ball and red, to the massive detriment of our Test side.

Re: Leeds Astraylia - England v Australia, Headingley
AGod 23 August, 2019 23:22
Just seen Roy’s dismissal - absolutely cretinous. But I don’t blame him anymore. Blame, instead, the second-rate judges of a Test cricketer Who keep sending him out there...

Re: Leeds Astraylia - England v Australia, Headingley
AGod 23 August, 2019 23:25
Stokes and Ed Smith’s mate also truly appalling dismissals. Amateur hour.

Re: Leeds Astraylia - England v Australia, Headingley
Scrumper 24 August, 2019 00:29
It's not 500-1 yet.

Re: Leeds Astraylia - England v Australia, Headingley
Kilmainham 24 August, 2019 02:43
A very short 5-1 for England to win on what will be a third day pitch. I wonder if the players have booked out of their hotel yet like 1981...
England still only 11-1 to win the ashes.
Bookies not what they used to be.

Re: Leeds Astraylia - England v Australia, Headingley
geordie moonraker 24 August, 2019 08:27
I listen to the Sky team mentioning lack of technique and reliance on the bottom hand. Can someone point out to them that that is what comes from prioritising limited overs where 170 for 8 is far better than 100 for 0. Classic cricket has gone because it has been relegated to second place.

Re: Leeds Astraylia - England v Australia, Headingley
Somerset LaLaLa 24 August, 2019 09:17
The England batsmen attack, when the Australian bowlers are on top, and take the game to them.

Wrong. Don't try hitting out in test or championship cricket when you need to keep your wicket. Soak it up and let them tire.

That philosophy must come from Bayliss and Root. Some of the bowling changes don't make sense and the field positions are wrong. I like the idea of the Australian slip positioning to give them freedom of movement, what are our tactical inspirations?

We can't hold our slip catches even on the third attempt. Or stop 4's on the boundary.

The frustration of the team yesterday was obvious and Root's body language clear. Even our man Jack looked frustrated with some bad balls.

In the week Somerset batted to successfully chase 258, will England be able to manage half that?

Re: Leeds Astraylia - England v Australia, Headingley
Grockle 24 August, 2019 09:47
Just watched Day 2. One day batting concepts against quality Test level bowling. There is only going to be one result. When did the idea of patience become a bad one?

One day players do not work with patience. They don't have time. It does NOT develop the creation of an innings, it simply teaches how to hit the bad ball, not to wait for it.



(Sm72)

Re: Leeds Astraylia - England v Australia, Headingley
AGod 24 August, 2019 10:03
All the more reason to praise, even more, Tom Banton, for his knock the other day. He’s a gun one-day batsman, yet he recognised exactly what was required and batted accordingly prior to lunch Vs Warks. It may be that Babar helped settle him down, who knows, but even if Babar had a few words, you’ve still got to go out and do it.

Re: Leeds Astraylia - England v Australia, Headingley
Bagpuss 24 August, 2019 10:25
Got to chuckle at all the hand wringing in the media and the repeated comments that the marginalisation of the County Championship over recent years has resulted in failure to produce batsmen who can graft and build an innings in red ball cricket. Some, like George Dobell, have been beating this drum for a long time. For others, they have just realised the Emperor is wearing no clothes (don't panic LoL, not *that* Emporer). When even the likes of Michael Vaughan and Bob Willis are castigating the county season schedule you know there's a problem.

After England's early exit from the 2015 World Cup, the ECB, under the new manager Andrew Strauss, chose a new pathway. For years the one-day side were the poor relation of the Test team, non-contracted players and series tagged on to the end if long tours as an afterthought. But the chief problem was the selection policy - assuming Test players had the required skills to perform in white ball cricket. "Your best players are your best players" may have worked back in the 70s when ODI cricket was in, if not its infancy, its spotty adolescence. Or in the late90s early 00s when Australia swept all before them. But the advent of T20 and the evolution of 50 over cricket changed all that.

In 2015 England appointed a specialist white -ball captain, selected players who had been putting I white-ball performances for their counties and gave them contracts. The result four years later was a home World Cup victory (just). The irony is that the baby was thrown out with the bathwater and now we are picking Test players because they play well for the white ball team. Then when it doesn't work they just jiggle the batting order around.

It's like shuffling deckchairs on the Titanic. Meanwhile the ECB are building a shiny new pedalo and telling is it's the future of transatlantic cruising. I could weep.



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Re: Leeds Astraylia - England v Australia, Headingley
Somerset LaLaLa 24 August, 2019 10:35
Tom Banton is top of the Somerset championship batting averages from 7 matches, almost 37, with no centuries or not outs he is pretty consistent. Averaging 41 in the RLODC and 40 in T20. He is going places

Re: Leeds Astraylia - England v Australia, Headingley
Bagpuss 24 August, 2019 10:41
Yeah, SLLL. Surrey if they can get their grubby mitts on him 😂😂

Re: Leeds Astraylia - England v Australia, Headingley
Somerset LaLaLa 24 August, 2019 11:35
I was suggesting grander places than Surrey and the IPL (hint: this is an England thread)

Re: Leeds Astraylia - England v Australia, Headingley
AGod 24 August, 2019 12:13
How much of an epic misjudgement was it, by Langer, to have not picked Marnus from the start?

Sadly, Mr Langer has absolutely nailed his bowling selections, though..

Re: Leeds Astraylia - England v Australia, Headingley
Bagpuss 24 August, 2019 12:14
Twas a joke SLLL. In part to hide my mixture of pride in the player and fear that England will take him too soon.

Re: Leeds Astraylia - England v Australia, Headingley
Angell Face 24 August, 2019 13:19
Mr. Labuschagne has scored 80, 74 and 59 in his three innings so far. What has he been doing for the rest of the season? He has played 10 matches for Glamorgan in Div. 2 of the CC, 18 innings, 1114 runs at an average of 65.52. Do you think that this
holds a lesson for the England selectors?



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