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Re: Madness
BeefyRoberts 02 October, 2018 10:16
PH,does that mean the complete idiots at ECB trying to help grass roots cricket with that money?
Why do that,when they can just chuck all that away for an early pantomime season?

The amount being guessed is going up by the day,could have Graves and Harrison on a new edition of The Price is Right,just keep shouting 'higher,higher' then another new edition of Bullseye,all the counties taking part and not getting bullys star prize and being told...'look what you could of won'.

Re: Madness
adelaide 02 October, 2018 11:12
Graves reminds me of the cowboy roofers who tell you your roof is in an awful state, then make sure it is after they've been up there and then ask for escalating amounts of cash to put it right.

Only "reminds me", m'learned friends.


Re: Madness
Primrose Hillbilly 03 October, 2018 08:58

what you fail to appreciate is that "the game's never been in better shape". T20 crowds up, year on year, new tournaments coming on stream soon, and we can sell all this to TV companies.

That a kid without Sky in his house will never see any meaningful cricket, so will never be encouraged to imitate it, and may then go down to his local community club to try it out, and enjoy all the comradeship, get mentored a bit by some decent blokes, and have something that engages him over the long Summer weekends is completely immaterial.

So is the fact that these clubs will close in due course, because they don't get a supply of young players. That is actually a good thing, because the less clubs that can apply for grants etc the more money can be usefully diverted towards the Hundred.

Cricket is not an activity for ordinary people to play. It is for the posh kids to play, and for the others to pay through the nose to watch, or find something else to do.

Re: Madness
chunkyinargyll 09 October, 2018 15:33
S_M's favourite cricket writer, Jonathan Lieuw has his say (and is another in the anti camp)


Re: Madness
dingy bags 09 October, 2018 18:40
"The most recent accounts show that the ECB has shed almost 90 per cent of its cash reserves in the space of two years...Despite signing a record broadcasting deal last summer to include the new tournament, counties have been told that there will be no extra prize money for the County Championship or T20 Blast, nor any extra funds to market it. The salary cap will not be raised. The ECB’s own internal departments have been ordered to slash costs by around 10 per cent. The elite pace and spin bowling camps have been scrapped. So too the overseas placement scheme, which sent the likes of Joe Root and Ollie Pope to hone their craft in Australian grade cricket. So too the North v South series. What was billed as English cricket’s great age of enrichment has turned into its age of austerity."

This all beggars belief. Why have a few people been given the power to do this?

Re: Madness
BeefyRoberts 09 October, 2018 19:26
Looks like these two buffoons that go by the names of Tonto and The Lone Ranger,sorry,Graves and Harrison have given themselves full control to completely ruin,and finish cricket for good.
How much longer have we all got?we keep saying get these two removed,sack them,make their positions un-tenable.
It's going too far down a very,very long slippery slope,that we may never clamber out of.
They won't be happy until they have screwed the game completely,taken their bags full of cash and disappeared for good.
We need to stop this,and damn quickly.

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Re: Madness
stockmos 11 October, 2018 15:39
dingy bags
"What was billed as English cricket’s great age of enrichment has turned into its age of austerity."

He needs to brush up on his English cricket history a bit.

Re: Madness
BeefyRoberts 10 November, 2018 13:58
Anyone else noticed the ECB have gone silent recently about the 100 rubbish?
Not one comment from them ever about potential sponsors?
Nothing about the franchise clubs recently either.
Is it going to be ditched?...with luck.

On Twitter,there are many,many people (myself incuded),who are having conversations about this deluded idea.
With posters not wanting it to go ahead,like most of us here as well.
With just over a year until this 100 nightmare starts,not a lot is being said about it from the ECB clowns.
Maybe,just maybe it won't happen.

Re: Madness
Mike TA1 10 November, 2018 21:29
Former Somerset Chairman Andy Nash, who resigned from the ECB Board earlier this year citing "unacceptable" failures of corporate governance, has called on the ECB to stop their implementation of The Hundred, renegotiate the 2020-2024 broadcasting deal and back the three current domestic competitions to avoid a potentially "huge financial crisis in the sport". []

Re: Madness
dingy bags 16 November, 2018 13:13
The T20 competition in the UAE, for which Eoin Morgan was an "icon player" has been called off. They could not find enough buyers for the five franchises.

Our ECB, having initially stated that they wanted to own all franchises for their shining new competition, are now, apparently, looking for people to 'buy' franchises. A little reminder that there is not a bottomless pit of money out there...

Re: Madness
Jonathan Winsky 22 November, 2018 19:34
An article in the Guardian says that England’s Test players are likely to be made available for the knockout stages of The 100, and that an announcement is expected to be made on 28th November about the playing conditions of the competition.

Re: Madness
BeefyRoberts 22 November, 2018 19:50
Nov 28th?
A date to avoid then.
So,in the real cricket world,test players are usually made to rest from playing games with fear of injury,burn out etc.
But,this 100 rubbish comes along and players can appear for some made up,total rubbish 100 side.
If a player is injured,can the County the player has contract with,and is paid by,sue the made up side?
More complete garbage!!!

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Re: Madness
chunkyinargyll 23 November, 2018 08:55
contained in this article-

ECB reserves have plummeted from 73.1 million in 2016 to just 8.6 million in 2018.


Traditionally the reserves tend to be at their best immediately after a home Ashes series, and at their worst the year before the next one, but even so, where has 66.5 million quid gone in 2 years?

And, as we already knew, the cost of setting up the hundred has risen from 13 million to 40 million (hopefully that is already accounted for in the decreased reserves- I assume it is, but I'm not sure)

Oh- and after 'losing' 66.5 million quid in two years, I really can't think of a better person to head up the ICC's finance committee than...........

Colin Graves.


Now Durham got fined 48 points for being about 7.5 million in debt, and needing an ECB loan, so losing 66.5 million ought to include a points penalty of 480.


Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 23/11/2018 09:01 by chunkyinargyll.

Re: Madness
BeefyRoberts 23 November, 2018 12:40
The England girls have reached the world cup final,to play our friends the aussies.Its t20.
KSL ladies tournament is t20,these two complete fools at ECB are disbanding the very successful KSL league after next season,forcing the ladies to play 100 rubbish.
The ideas these clowns graves and harrison come up with just go from worse to even worse still.
Please,get rid of these fools before irreversible damage is done.

Re: Madness
London Leprechaun 30 November, 2018 09:46

Re: Madness
Fozzie 30 November, 2018 13:12
England are rated #1 in the world in ODIs. We are hosting the World Cup in 2019. It would seem to be a great opportunity to boost the game, albeit sadly none of the tournament will be shown on free-to-view TV.

Instead - the following season will see a domestic competition that is sidelined and essentially played by 2nd XIs. One would have thought that the ECB would consider the current England team an asset worth building on and marketing, rather than basically saying "we'll get as much money as possible out of the World Cup, but actually it's a second-rate format that is on the way out".

Re: Madness
BeefyRoberts 30 November, 2018 15:09
Law 17.1 states an over is of 6 balls.
The 100 rubbish will have 5 or 10 ball sessions.
These fools seem hell-bent on ruining the wonderful game of cricket as it is at the moment,you would of thought with the amount of comments on Twitter they would take note of some.
They are all directed at the fools at the ECB and,not one post has been replied to.
A great PR exercise!

Re: Madness
tallliman 30 November, 2018 20:23
With much fear of repeating myself, it's gimmickry in lieu of fixing the problem. If the game needs to be quicker, speed the over rate up, limit run ups. Don't arbitrarily create something new.

Also, t10 is catching on slowly. Is t16.4 in danger of being outmoded before it's begun?

Re: Madness
tallliman 04 December, 2018 21:09
Found this petition which has been started to try encourage discussion on the madness:

Re: Madness
BeefyRoberts 11 December, 2018 16:09
Aussie madness....for the Big Bash,no coin toss.
Going to have a bat flip,whoever calls correct landing of bat makes bat or bowl decision.
Fabulous idea!

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