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Middlesex v Gloucestershire 7-10 July
Discussion started by chunkyinargyll , 04 July, 2019 15:31
Middlesex v Gloucestershire 7-10 July
chunkyinargyll 04 July, 2019 15:31
Will there be any changes to the team?

Suggestions James Harris might be fit again, but Steven Finn didn't bowl in the second innings against Derbyshire, because of a 'calf strain'. That may have just been a precaution, as the game was destined for a draw, so I'm not sure if he will be available.

Will we drop anyone?

Robbie White is playing for the 2's this week, so he might be considered as an alternative to Steven Eskinazi, or, if Harris comes back at 6 in the order, maybe George Scott moves up the order at Eski's expense.

Kevin Hand reckoned Toby Roland-Jones bowled well the other day, for no reward, so I'll take his word on that, because at the moment TRJ's wickets are costing 100 runs each, so I assume he'll keep his place.

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Re: Middlesex v Gloucestershire 7-10 July
adelaide 04 July, 2019 16:47
I'm not sure |I'd take Kevin "100 need off 5 overs with 1 wicket left - one good over and they are right back in this" Hand's judgement as particularly definitive. I didn't dip in to the feed for this match (too depressing) but his eternal optimism does grate sometimes.

At least he is not in a duo with DT very often these days. Rather like the Surrey guy (Barran), DT is actually quite listenable alongside others but put them with their regular mates and it goes downhill faster than you could believe into in "jokes" and the like.

Bamber is presumably available. He hasn't looked very penetrative on this year's pitches yet but this is at OMT and he would give some variety. Helm, Finn and TRJ are a bit too similar for my taste, and too likely to throw in a four ball each over.


Re: Middlesex v Gloucestershire 7-10 July
chunkyinargyll 04 July, 2019 16:56
I think there must be a BBC handbook on how to keep the listeners interested.

KH is one of the better commentators, because I do like his upbeat, optimistic approach, rather than the resigned 'seen it all before' approach some have.

But his ideas on how Billy God and Malan could make a game of it, and a scenario that could produce a result was a fairly ridiculous flight of fancy.

I have an idea KH may read MTWD (if not, why not?) and he is better than most, but yesterday's optimism can only have come from a 'How to keep your listeners, when everyone knows the game is dead' guide.

Re: Middlesex v Gloucestershire 7-10 July
Seaxe_man1 04 July, 2019 18:39
I can recall Mr Hand at the Hampshire Bowl insisting they had short boundaries in a T20 match. Now the Hampshire Bowl is one of the larger playing areas in England. I agree the rope had been pulled in a few yards. However correct description was ' shorter' boundaries than full but not short. Still a decent hit to clear them which we didn't manage too often

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BREARS 04 July, 2019 18:50
When you compare Kevin Hand to the other commentators, there is no comparision, the Derbyshire guy was getting wound by his insistence that Finny was unlucky not to get into the World Cup squad! His knowledge of the finer points of the game is poor and now interviews with Mr Law are videoed, you can see the frustration in the coaches face as Hand asks him another inane question. Id do a swap with Mr Church any day of the week

Re: Middlesex v Gloucestershire 7-10 July
Jonathan Winsky 04 July, 2019 19:34
Lower Mound attended some of today’s two Second Eleven Twenty20 matches between Middlesex and MCC Young Cricketers at Finchley today, where several of our 1st XI squad were either playing or training. He spoke to a few of our players, including James Harris and Steven Finn, who both said they doubt they will be fit for this match. Therefore, it looks like Ethan Bamber will come in and Toby Roland-Jones will retain his place.

The weather forecast for the first three days of this match is good, although it might rain on Wednesday afternoon. Hopefully the temperature will be higher than the last couple of times I have visited Merchant Taylors’ School! Although the weather has been good over the last couple of weeks and it is midsummer, my attendance on Sunday will be the first time I would have seen a full day’s play since 2nd June, which is a consequence of the lack of weekend cricket, or indeed any match for Middlesex at all in the round of matches two weeks’ ago.

We really need to win this match, if only to make everyone at the club a bit happier about how our County Championship campaign is going.

Dawid Malan has spoken to ECB Reporters Network about our difficulties this season.

Re: Middlesex v Gloucestershire 7-10 July
Bring back the Crusaders 04 July, 2019 20:44
No doubt Ryan Higgins will hit a 50 and take a 5 for.
Old players always seem to come back and haunt us!
Struggling to see how Steve Eskinazi can justify his place in the team with an average of 20 odd surely its worth giving another batsman a chance.

Re: Middlesex v Gloucestershire 7-10 July
chunkyinargyll 06 July, 2019 14:12
!3 man squad named-

Malan (c), Bamber, Barber, Eskinazi, Gubbins, Helm, Holden, Robson, Roland-Jones, Scott, Simpson(wk), Sowter, White.

Re: Middlesex v Gloucestershire 7-10 July
MB 06 July, 2019 14:22
Pretty much down to the bare bones

Re: Middlesex v Gloucestershire 7-10 July
Seaxe_man1 06 July, 2019 15:53
Looks like Derby selection with Barber replacing Finn and White added with Bamber.

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Re: Middlesex v Gloucestershire 7-10 July
Seaxe_man1 06 July, 2019 15:56
Presumably choice Bamber or Barber and Holden or White.

Re: Middlesex v Gloucestershire 7-10 July
chunkyinargyll 06 July, 2019 16:03
I'd say White or Eskinazi.

Max battled for his ten, and was got out, rather than a poor shot, although I agree on paper White, Holden and Scott all in the top six does look vulnerable.

Re: Middlesex v Gloucestershire 7-10 July
Seaxe_man1 06 July, 2019 16:18
Maybe chunky. From what we saw at Derby not much in it. Esky has games under his belt advantage.

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Re: Middlesex v Gloucestershire 7-10 July
Seaxe_man1 06 July, 2019 16:22
Plus MTS unlikely to be as flat as Derby track under Groundsman Ayling

Re: Middlesex v Gloucestershire 7-10 July
Jonathan Winsky 06 July, 2019 16:30
As there were a few absences I anticipated, it is nice to see that Middlesex’s squad does not reveal any absences I didn’t anticipate.

I would have thought that Steven Finn’s absence would result in Ethan Bamber coming in. And with Middlesex due to have just Thursday and Friday off before their next match v Glamorgan at Sophia Gardens starts next Saturday, which is in turn followed by just one day off before our Twenty20 campaign starts, maybe Tom Barber will play too, as we like to keep our fast bowlers fresh.

It is great to see that Robbie White is now fit.

Stuart Law has spoken to our YouTube page about this match:

Re: Middlesex v Gloucestershire 7-10 July
Jonathan Winsky 07 July, 2019 00:34
Excluding the nightwatchman Steven Finn, Middlesex’s top six v Derbyshire at Derby last week consisted of Sam Robson, Stephen Eskinazi, Nick Gubbins, Dawid Malan, Max Holden and George Scott, so most would say that we had four senior batsmen who should really be expected to score the bulk of our runs, and that we had two batsmen who were less senior, especially if ‘senior’ is defined as having been awarded a county cap. Therefore, it would reduce the experience level of our batting line-up if Robbie White is brought in to replace any member of that top four, although the fact they (or to be specific, our batting line-up other than Dawid Malan) haven’t posted many big scores means that such a change may have to be made.

The main issue has been that our batsmen have got into the 20’s or 30’s, but then have got out when they should be looking to say to themselves “right, I’m settled, I’m not getting out, I’m going to make a big score”. Now I’ve written that, there will probably be a day when none of our batsmen get starts and we are all out for a two-figure total, but batsmen actually find getting out in their first 10 balls faced less irritating than when they get out after getting themselves set.

I was hopeful that White’s loan at Essex would see him making some big scores to get some confidence under his belt and to boost competition at Middlesex. I suppose that his tally of 41 runs from two County Championship innings and 87 runs from eight Royal London Cup innings (including four not outs I hasten to add) wasn’t too bad despite not being impressive.

Speaking about Finn’s injury, Stuart Law said that he is hopeful that it won’t be “a six-week job”. As Finn could be out for that long, it means he will surely miss next week’s match v Glamorgan at Sophia Gardens and the start of our Twenty20 campaign.

Gloucestershire have named a 13-man squad for this match consisting of Chris Dent, Miles Hammond, James Bracey, Gareth Roderick, Benny Howell, Ben Charlesworth, Ryan Higgins, Graeme van Buuren, David Payne, Chadd Sayers, Josh Shaw, Matt Taylor and George Drissell.

The inclusion of van Buuren and Drissell in Gloucestershire's squad means that they have named two specialist spinners, whereas we have only named Nathan Sowter, not that we actually have any other spinners who are both professionals and available. As this match is at an outground and there had been little rain over the last days until there was a bit on Saturday evening, maybe the pitch will take spin.

Re: Middlesex v Gloucestershire 7-10 July
Seaxe_man1 07 July, 2019 08:27
Some rain overnight though not much. Overcast now.

Re: Middlesex v Gloucestershire 7-10 July
chunkyinargyll 07 July, 2019 08:47
Sometimes things said softly and calmly can have more of an effect than something screamed at the top of your voice.

Around i min 15 secs in the Law interview he says (of Derby) 'If you can't make hundreds on that, you shouldn't be playing the game of cricket'.

Edit- he might have meant the Derbyshire batsmen (because we let them off with dropped catches) but the point was still made. (because on second listening he says 'after that' rather than 'on that')

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Re: Middlesex v Gloucestershire 7-10 July
Jonathan Winsky 07 July, 2019 09:29
Just like when Middlesex played Glamorgan at Radlett three weeks ago, I was all set to attend day one, until I switched on my computer to see that the forecast for the start of the day isn’t great. If play doesn’t start on time today, hopefully it won’t start too late.

Whereas Radlett isn’t an easy place to get to from Wembley, meaning there wasn’t much point in me attending day one once it became clear that the start would be delayed by a few hours, it is much easier for me to get to Merchant Taylors’ School, so I am sure I will head off at some point today.

Re: Middlesex v Gloucestershire 7-10 July
chunkyinargyll 07 July, 2019 10:39
Robbie White plays ahead of Max Holden.

And Bamber for Finn.

Predictably, we bat first.

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