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Paul Stirling signs for Northants T20
Discussion started by chunkyinargyll , 31 January, 2020 13:14
Paul Stirling signs for Northants T20
chunkyinargyll 31 January, 2020 13:14
We can forget any chance of Stirlo playing for us this year.


Re: Paul Stirling signs for Northants T20
dingy bags 31 January, 2020 13:23
Stirlo and Rossington reunited.

Re: Paul Stirling signs for Northants T20
Seaxe_man1 31 January, 2020 14:10
dingy bags
Stirlo and Rossington reunited.

One can imagine the mayhem they are likely to cause in partnership.

Two of the best white ballplayers Middlesex have ever produced in the 21st century.

Can see why Stirlo opted for Wantage Road.

Re: Paul Stirling signs for Northants T20
Jonathan Winsky 31 January, 2020 18:11
It was always highly likely that if Middlesex did not sign Paul Stirling as a Twenty20 overseas player, then another county would do so considering his record in and knowledge of English cricket is excellent, and unlike many other potential overseas players, a county wishing to sign him will not need to arrange for him to fly thousands of miles considering he might still live in London (if not, he probably lives somewhere in Ireland).

I had not given up hope that Middlesex would sign Stirlo as an overseas player for T20 and not select Peter Handscomb, but this cannot happen now. If we made no attempt to sign him, maybe a factor in the decision was the fact that Stirlo will be unable to play the whole competition.

However, the possibility of AB de Villiers returning remains, as I am not aware of either Middlesex or de Villiers ruling out a return, and I am still not 100% certain that we intend to select Handscomb for T20. However, unless we sign a second overseas player in addition to Mujeeb Ur Rahman, then Handscomb will surely play.

Handscomb’s T20 reputation will have been boosted after he played a role in Melbourne Stars finishing top of the table in the Big Bash, which means that they will get a second chance of reaching the final despite losing v Sydney Sixers today. Handscomb is currently fourth in the Stars’ batting averages, although his tally of 182 runs and 1 fifty in 10 matches doesn’t seem impressive, while his average of 36.40 is boosted by some red-inkers (i.e. times not out). His strikerate of 131.88 isn’t too bad though.

I can’t really hide my disappointment that, as things stand, our T20 batting line-up is set to see four outgoings in Stirlo, de Villiers, Dawid Malan and George Scott, with only one external incoming in Handscomb, which is why I would like us to re-sign de Villiers instead of selecting Handscomb.

I am sure that Stirlo will do well for Northamptonshire. Just like in EastEnders, the Mitchell brothers have been reunited!

Re: Paul Stirling signs for Northants T20
Seaxe_man1 31 January, 2020 21:54
AB is ruled out. If Handscomb doesn't play we have vacancy. Stirlo likely considers Northants prospects are better than Mx. Hard to disagree. We are looking around. Get Gupthill to replace Stirlo.

Re: Paul Stirling signs for Northants T20
rod/ed 31 January, 2020 22:24
This is bad news. Did Captain Morgan or Law not want him? Without AB and Mala surely a player like Stirlo would be a massive asset. Does Stirlo think we have no chance in the comp and has better chances at Northants.
Or is there still an internal problem that sees Scott, Fuller, Higgins & Mala leave?

Re: Paul Stirling signs for Northants T20
Seaxe_man1 01 February, 2020 08:09
Undoubtedly there has been a problem retaining and motivating players over a long period Rod. However. You have to think Northants prospects are stronger.

Re: Paul Stirling signs for Northants T20
Seaxe_man1 01 February, 2020 08:12
Suspect too much Pavilion Waller's guff ain't helpful. Some directed at our T20 captain. Unlikely to boost morale.

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Re: Paul Stirling signs for Northants T20
chunkyinargyll 01 February, 2020 10:04
The question is, 'Is Stirlo good enough to be our overseas T20?'

Certainly good enough to get in the side as a domestic player (although I don't think he got a 50 last year?)

Maybe we've just gone back to plan A (concentrate on getting out of Division 2 in the championship and treat T20 as a bit of hit and giggle).

Re: Paul Stirling signs for Northants T20
Jonathan Winsky 01 February, 2020 23:39
The February 2020 edition of The Cricketer confirms that AB de Villiers will not play in Middlesex’s Twenty20 campaign this year, which the article says is due to “his life/work balance” as a result of the IPL final taking place four days before the start of our T20 campaign and because he might come out of international retirement to play for South Africa when the World Twenty20 tournament takes place this autumn.

Two pieces of good news are that the article says that de Villiers is likely to return to Middlesex at some point in the future (although this could turn out not to be such good news if de Villiers is a fading light by the time of a return, as he would be aged 37 if he plays in 2021), and that the club appear to share my hope that we will sign another overseas player for our T20 campaign, as we “are known to be looking for a hard-hitting replacement [for de Villiers] and are scouring the Australian market for an allrounder, with Mitchell Marsh under consideration”.

It is vital that we seek to make our batting line-up as strong as possible for our T20 campaign in 2020, as all of our wins in 2019 came when our fifth wicket didn’t fall until after the 15th over (or didn’t fall at all), while most of our defeats came when we did lose our fifth wicket before the 15th over, which shows the importance of our top-order batting most of our innings and leaving little or no batting to the lower-order.

After we placed a lot of effort to improve our limited-overs performances upon the appointment of Stuart Law ahead of the 2019 season, it would be a surprise if we priortise the County Championship, although I feel more optimistic about the Championship than the two other competitions.

On the subject of The Cricketer, Stevie Eskinazi has spoken to their website about hoping to break into the England side now he is qualified and play in The Hundred.

Re: Paul Stirling signs for Northants T20
Bring back the Crusaders 02 February, 2020 16:38
Believe Hilton Cartwright is available!!

Re: Paul Stirling signs for Northants T20
Seaxe_man1 02 February, 2020 19:54
Only signed for T20. Availability, lack of, Mx problem apparently.

Re: Paul Stirling signs for Northants T20
Darren Gosling 03 February, 2020 21:58
Chunky I would say Stirlo is a far better bet as overseas player than Mujeeb Zadran with his 7 wkts @ 40.19. In fact even Stirlo's T20 record as a T20 bowler is superior with 23 wkts @ 36.17.
With Nathan Sowter our 4th highest all-time wicket taker in this format with 46 wkts @29.50 I have to question the sense in re-signing Mujeeb as our overseas player, I certainly wasn't at all impressed on last year's showing.

Re: Paul Stirling signs for Northants T20
Jonathan Winsky 03 February, 2020 22:34
Considering Middlesex’s Twenty20 batting line-up is set to be a lot weaker in 2020 than in 2019, whereas our bowling line-up could be at a similar level to last season (depending on player availability), I wouldn’t have been too disappointed had we not re-signed Mujeeb Ur Rahman and instead filled both of our two overseas player berths with batsmen. And unless we were happy to select only one specialist spinner in Nathan Sowter, this would have probably given an opportunity to Luke Hollman (whose batting could also have been handy) or - if ECB give permission - Thilan Walallawita.

However, despite the fact I wouldn’t have been disappointed had we not re-signed him, I like Mujeeb thanks to his tendency to bowl economically, which is good news, as a). I would like to think this puts opposing batsmen under pressure which our other bowlers can exploit; and b). it reduces the runs our batsmen have to score. Clearly, our management have little faith in our batsmen’s ability to post or chase large totals, so they have re-engaged Mujeeb in order to make things a bit easier for our batsmen!

If only Mujeeb can add wickets to his repertoire, then he would arguably be the complete bowler.

Re: Paul Stirling signs for Northants T20
chunkyinargyll 04 February, 2020 06:40
Jonathan Winsky

If only Mujeeb can add wickets to his repertoire, then he would arguably be the complete bowler.

smiling bouncing smiley

Re: Paul Stirling signs for Northants T20
Seaxe_man1 04 February, 2020 07:50
Luke Hollman likely in frame as back up. 50 overs squad looks good for him.

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Re: Paul Stirling signs for Northants T20
Seaxe_man1 04 February, 2020 07:54
On the batting front JW. Tom Lace, Martin Andersson are wild cards and personally I would trust Robbo to provide an anchor. Simmo has advanced as a white ball batter since Dave Houghton got him hitting straighter.

Re: Paul Stirling signs for Northants T20
Jonathan Winsky 04 February, 2020 18:39
Having not played an ODI since January 2018 or a Twenty20 international since October 2018, Mitchell Marsh has been included in Australia’s squads for series in those formats in South Africa in February and March, so we will have to see whether that will impact the chances of Middlesex signing him. After those series end, Australia will play three ODIs at home to New Zealand and then three T20 internationals away to New Zealand, which will take them to 29th March, before they return to action when they play limited-overs matches away to Scotland and England, beginning on 29th June.

If Marsh remains in Australia’s plans for the coming months, then Cricket Australia may either make him unavailable to play in the T20 Blast, or they may say that he can only play up to the week before 29th June, which in Middlesex’s case would mean he could only play up to our 9th group match on 21st June.

If we are seeking a batsman or all-rounder who is not in Australia’s limited-overs plans, then I am sure that there are many other alternatives, including Marcus Stoinis, as he is neither included in the squad to tour South Africa nor signed by a county for next season.

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