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Old Pete's Puzzler 7
By OldPete
June 29 2009
A few questions to keep you cool through the forecast heatwave this week.
"Pushing back the frontiers of knowledge"
(well sort of )
Identify and / or explain the following
1. How does a link between an irritating pundit and Scottish hero lead you to a broken barrier.
2. Whose accident in Wurzburg led to a new era of transparency
3. How did a giant white rabbit make sense of the plumbing
4. what links an urban cocktail to pre pubescent male obesity.
5. Which anglo german with help from his sisters discover a place where there is no sun shine.
6. What chemical breakthrough gave a scapegoat new options.
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1. Stuart Barnes and William Wallace = Barnes Wallace?
2. Wurzburg was the home of Rontgen, discoverer of X-Rays.
3. Harvey (from the James Stewart film) as in William Harvey who found that the heart was the organ that pumps blood?
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2. Wurzburg was the home of Rontgen, discoverer of X-Rays.
3. Harvey (from the James Stewart film) as in William Harvey who found that the heart was the organ that pumps blood?
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I object to the Heatwave reference as Im in Cornwall and its cloudy , grey and not very hot... Mind you, did meet up with a few Pirates on Saturday afternoon..Regarding the quiz, I will just leave Smurf to get on with it, he should have it finisged by 08:00am..
OK then, sorry for the delay Bleach...
4. Something to do with Manhattan and Little Boy / Fat Man (the names of the two atomic bombs dropped on Japan)?
Still puzzling over the others...
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4. Something to do with Manhattan and Little Boy / Fat Man (the names of the two atomic bombs dropped on Japan)?
Still puzzling over the others...
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Smurf has risen to the challenge and has all his ansers correctso far.
Barnes - wallace - was a give away
Rontgen did inded discover X rays by accidnet in Wurzburg
Fat boy was the first A bomb dropped on Hrishima - the project to build it was the Manhatten project. It was so called as a dig at General Groves who was in command of the project he was overweight.
Harvey was the fictional gaint white rabbit in the film starring James Stewart and was the name of the discoverer of the the means by which blood circulated .
Barnes - wallace - was a give away
Rontgen did inded discover X rays by accidnet in Wurzburg
Fat boy was the first A bomb dropped on Hrishima - the project to build it was the Manhatten project. It was so called as a dig at General Groves who was in command of the project he was overweight.
Harvey was the fictional gaint white rabbit in the film starring James Stewart and was the name of the discoverer of the the means by which blood circulated .
No.6. Probably barking up the wrong tree with this one...
Is the Scapegoat Dr Crippen? His family have recently asked for DNA tests to be carried out on some of the evidence from his trial. His family suggests that someone else carried out the murder and that Crippen was framed.
Is the Scapegoat Dr Crippen? His family have recently asked for DNA tests to be carried out on some of the evidence from his trial. His family suggests that someone else carried out the murder and that Crippen was framed.
No.5: Is this William Herschel? he was an anglo-German and was helped by his sister: Caroline. He made several contributions to astronomy, but I can't quite get the sun shine link (unless it's a reference to him discovering infra-red radiation).
I think youre right sarge - he also discoverd Uranus and theres no sunshine there. Do I also detect a hint of school boy humour in Old Pete?
If Jim's right on the "where the sun don't shine" link, that's bluddy marvellous! 
I've been trying to think of a "way-in" on the scapegoat question but really don't know where to start. Inspiration eludes me...
I've been trying to think of a "way-in" on the scapegoat question but really don't know where to start. Inspiration eludes me...
As a chemist Im almost too embaressed to say Im struggling with that one. Started on scapegoats and plumped for Lord Lucan but got nowhere
Just wondered if no.5 had anything to do with Guido "Guy" Fawkes, the most famous scapegoat of all! Struggling to make the chemical breakthrough fit unless it is a reference to the development of gunpowder much earlier in time? It seems to have gone quiet on 5!
got there with Uranus - had to think of all sorts of ways of saying " where the sun dont shine " as the popular colloquialism was a dead give away - so Sarge and Wee Jim share the kudos on that one .
the scapegoat and a chemical breakthrough - well what else can i say ?
the scapegoat and a chemical breakthrough - well what else can i say ?
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"...the scapegoat and a chemical breakthrough - well what else can i say?
dunno, Pete.
The answer to a question set by a quizmeister is always blindingly obvious to the QM cos he/she knows the answer. Sometimes the proles haven't got a clue.
So, clue?
Ok Phil your pleas for clemency have reached me and softened my heart so
The answer is in Manchester ( not an anagram )
and careful scrutiny of the original question and my previous post will give yet another definite clue.
The answer is in Manchester ( not an anagram )
and careful scrutiny of the original question and my previous post will give yet another definite clue.
I'm puzzled as Manchester has a large history of scientific breakthroughs. Rutherford splitting the atom and Dalton's various chemical discoveries are the only ones I can think that would apply, as most of them are physics.
Can't link any of them to a scapegoat though.
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Can't link any of them to a scapegoat though.
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Simon - nothing to do with splitting atoms - it does involve chemistry and the application of that breakthrough or innovation in another field entirely
The answer is in manchester -
However i shall if no correct answer is forthcoming announce the answer this evening and certainly before the last trump.
The answer is in manchester -
However i shall if no correct answer is forthcoming announce the answer this evening and certainly before the last trump.
Perhaps the scapegoat's name will unlock no 6.
Vickery, perhaps?
"Your days are numbered. Use them to throw open the windows of your soul to the sun. If you do not, the sun will soon set, and you with it."
-- Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor 161-180 A.D.
Vickery, perhaps?
"Your days are numbered. Use them to throw open the windows of your soul to the sun. If you do not, the sun will soon set, and you with it."
-- Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor 161-180 A.D.
"The answer's in Manchester...."
So we name a district, or given your love of crossword type clues we pluck letters out of the original word?
Chest?
Man?
Hester?
"Your days are numbered. Use them to throw open the windows of your soul to the sun. If you do not, the sun will soon set, and you with it."
-- Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor 161-180 A.D.
So we name a district, or given your love of crossword type clues we pluck letters out of the original word?
Chest?
Man?
Hester?
"Your days are numbered. Use them to throw open the windows of your soul to the sun. If you do not, the sun will soon set, and you with it."
-- Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor 161-180 A.D.
Chemical breakthrough.
Not a discovery, or invention but a 'breakthrough' - like a spillage?
"Your days are numbered. Use them to throw open the windows of your soul to the sun. If you do not, the sun will soon set, and you with it."
-- Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor 161-180 A.D.
Not a discovery, or invention but a 'breakthrough' - like a spillage?
"Your days are numbered. Use them to throw open the windows of your soul to the sun. If you do not, the sun will soon set, and you with it."
-- Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor 161-180 A.D.
Paul - i did indicate earlier up this thread that Manchester involves no anagrams.
the answer or at least part of the answer which also demonstrates the reason for its existence in the form that it takes - is actually in Manchester.
I and i guess farsands and farsands of others have seen it.
Ps the reason for the obscure clues and questions is to test your wit and knowledge rather than ones ability to use a search engine.
the answer or at least part of the answer which also demonstrates the reason for its existence in the form that it takes - is actually in Manchester.
I and i guess farsands and farsands of others have seen it.
Ps the reason for the obscure clues and questions is to test your wit and knowledge rather than ones ability to use a search engine.
Sorry to be picky, but mine aren't anagrams.
"Your days are numbered. Use them to throw open the windows of your soul to the sun. If you do not, the sun will soon set, and you with it."
-- Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor 161-180 A.D.
"Your days are numbered. Use them to throw open the windows of your soul to the sun. If you do not, the sun will soon set, and you with it."
-- Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor 161-180 A.D.
Oooh...the station!
Goodness knows what's special about it though. Lots of glass and lots of trains.
Goodness knows what's special about it though. Lots of glass and lots of trains.
Ok its 20.00 hrs and time to put you out of your misery
The chemical breakthrough / etc
was the development of analine dyes
These made available a whole new range of vibrant
colours - especially mauves and purples
The pre Raphaelite painters were the first to use the
new pigments - and the first of these was
Holman Hunt whose painting - " The Scapegoat " using a
lot of the new mauves caused a sensation - it hangs in
Manchesters Whitworth Gallery .
I had hoped that the change of syntax from
" a scapegoat"
in the question to " the scapegoat " in later posts
might
have helped.
The chemical breakthrough / etc
was the development of analine dyes
These made available a whole new range of vibrant
colours - especially mauves and purples
The pre Raphaelite painters were the first to use the
new pigments - and the first of these was
Holman Hunt whose painting - " The Scapegoat " using a
lot of the new mauves caused a sensation - it hangs in
Manchesters Whitworth Gallery .
I had hoped that the change of syntax from
" a scapegoat"
in the question to " the scapegoat " in later posts
might
have helped.
Ahhh that was an answer to dye for!
I had briefly considered "the scapegoat" painting but had no idea it hung in manchester and couldnt think of the chemical breakthrough related to it.
I had briefly considered "the scapegoat" painting but had no idea it hung in manchester and couldnt think of the chemical breakthrough related to it.
Not Manchester Pete -
Lady Lever Art Gallery
Unless of course the scallies have jacked up the frame and nicked the canvas!
Lady Lever Art Gallery
Unless of course the scallies have jacked up the frame and nicked the canvas!
St M and I had a telephone conversation today about the location of the Scapegoat - I did see it the Whitworth Gallery Manchester many years ago - Mrs P saw it there more recently.
Must be some sort of swap thing . or as St M suggests the Scallies have had it away.
But then it goes to show that many and most of my questions are based on my own fund of eclectic and esoteric ( some would say useless ) knowledge rather than wiki or google.
Jim - many many years ago when i was organising industrial strife in Manchester I had occassion to visit Clayton Analine - a company then owned by Ciba Giegy . It was i think originally founded by Chiam Wietzman who was an industrial chemist and noted Zionist who went on to become the first President of Israel.
As an occasional amateur painter i have also read a bit about the history of pigments.
Must be some sort of swap thing . or as St M suggests the Scallies have had it away.
But then it goes to show that many and most of my questions are based on my own fund of eclectic and esoteric ( some would say useless ) knowledge rather than wiki or google.
Jim - many many years ago when i was organising industrial strife in Manchester I had occassion to visit Clayton Analine - a company then owned by Ciba Giegy . It was i think originally founded by Chiam Wietzman who was an industrial chemist and noted Zionist who went on to become the first President of Israel.
As an occasional amateur painter i have also read a bit about the history of pigments.
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i have also read a bit about the history of pigments.
Waaayyyyy too much information!
Pete - I think youre right about Weitzman - he certainly did found a couple of companies based around chemcial products. It was Perkin who discovered the analine dyes but didnt exploit them as much as others did.
I prposed writing an OU short course on the chemistry of pigments and painting but the "business case" wasnt sound enough apparently.
There has been some brilliant work done at Imperial college analysing pigments using Raman spectroscopy. It uses a laser that does burn a hole in the painting but as its so tiny it was felt better not to mention it!
I prposed writing an OU short course on the chemistry of pigments and painting but the "business case" wasnt sound enough apparently.
There has been some brilliant work done at Imperial college analysing pigments using Raman spectroscopy. It uses a laser that does burn a hole in the painting but as its so tiny it was felt better not to mention it!
damn vandals !!
incidentally i have a theory that Van G went mad through absorbing a lot of dodgy stuff - licking his brush - I dunno -
but white lead was commonly used in well " lead White " and he was painting when the new chromes became available .
you now have to be over 18 to buy a tube of lead white in art shops which is always kept away locked away from the display shelves of other colours.
next weeks starters for ten will be on Films or as the young call them " movies "
incidentally i have a theory that Van G went mad through absorbing a lot of dodgy stuff - licking his brush - I dunno -
but white lead was commonly used in well " lead White " and he was painting when the new chromes became available .
you now have to be over 18 to buy a tube of lead white in art shops which is always kept away locked away from the display shelves of other colours.
next weeks starters for ten will be on Films or as the young call them " movies "
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