OPP - St M's Go


An Editor Writes...

By David Lowrence
August 5 2009

Right you lot - you've been cracking the best Pete, Smurf and Chris can throw at you for boundaries all week. In the guise of Basil D'Olivera (and that should reveal my generation) I am going to try and reduce the run rate. Pick the bones out of this lot.

Find each element, and the answer for full marks

 

A Ginga chanteuse, once the straight woman to a Communard,

A tree who is not a Lock,  

A tribute to an ex Footwarmer,  

and a once bad, bad boy

will all be Frooning this weekend – who and where?

 

Not the Uncle who “didn’t know you cared”

A standard 1,440mm

A Diabolic Blacksmith who caused a remarkable twist

A Public Servant who caused some drivers to huff and puff

The Post Office

All come together – where?

 

What links

The Origins of an early Chrysalis or agricultural inventor

The capital (with a porcine heritage) of a region who’s neighbours included Northumberland and Powys

The Birthplace of a would be vicar who was seduced by Coleoptera

The Hooker who was “Wales’ Strongest Man’

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Shaddo
Shaddo
06/08/2009 07:20
Sarah Jane Morris is going to be Frooning?!

Shaddo
Shaddo
06/08/2009 07:33
Oooh, I feel a jazz connection coming on.
Sarah Jane Morris (featured on Don't Leave Me This Way by the Communards)
Courtney (Lawes) Pine (tree)


Can't for the life of me figure out the other two, but it's the Brecon Jazz Festival this weekend.

Old war planes last week, jazz this week, can we have the Feminine Physique in Eastern Europe next Friday, please?

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OldPete
06/08/2009 08:17
is a Coleoptera ( sic) intended ?

StMarlowe1
St Marlowe
06/08/2009 08:30
coleoptera if you prefer - & sorry Pete, I thought yours had all been answered below!

Keep it up Shaddo



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Maverick1
Phil.
06/08/2009 09:19
"...a once bad, bad boy"

Paul Jones?

For the blue bit I have something to do with Jethro Tull, Lancaster and Robyn McBride which being clueless on the other bit leads me to aviation for some reason??? How far out am I?

No alcohol for January. I'm a dryathlete in aid of cancer research.

Dryathlon

StMarlowe1
St Marlowe
06/08/2009 10:43
You are on the ground - but you are in danger in the air Rich!

Paul Jones was indeed once a Bad, Bad Boy Phil.

Only one to get in that group

So it's not Robyn McBride flying Jethro Tull to a gig in a Lancaster bomber then?

No alcohol for January. I'm a dryathlete in aid of cancer research.

Dryathlon

StMarlowe1
St Marlowe
06/08/2009 10:48
Frayed Knot

eb13saint
eb13saint
06/08/2009 10:53
The would-be vicar, etc, is Darwin who was born in Shewsbury.

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smurfomatic
06/08/2009 10:53
Is the "would be vicar" William Weekes Fowler? If it is, he was either born in Tavistock or Barnwood depending on who you believe.

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Maverick1
Phil.
06/08/2009 10:54
With a little research I learn that Duke Ellington was at one time in a group called The Feetwarmers.

Are my feet getting warm?

StMarlowe1
St Marlowe
06/08/2009 11:31
Yes - but that's coz they are in the fire:
Not the Duke

Sarge
Sarge
06/08/2009 12:52
No.2

The Uncle was Mort in "I didn't know you cared", so who was not the uncle? Are we looking for the character or the person who played him/her?

1440mm is about 4ft 8½ inches, which is the standard gauge on the railways.

Blacksmith: no idea.

The public servant I guess is Barbara Castle, who introduced the breathyliser as Minister of Transport

Post Office: PO or Mail?

Can anyone make any sense out of my musings?

StMarlowe1
St Marlowe
06/08/2009 13:16
Sarge
Quote:
No.2
The Uncle was Mort in "I didn't know you cared", so who was not the uncle? Are we looking for the character or the person who played him/her?

We are looking for neither Uncle Mort nor Robin Bailey

Quote:
1440mm is about 4ft 8½ inches, which is the standard gauge on the railways.

Correct


Quote:
The public servant I guess is Barbara Castle, who introduced the breathyliser as Minister of Transport

You Guess correctly


Quote:
Post Office: PO or Mail?

RM

Maverick1
Phil.
06/08/2009 17:19
There was another uncle in "I didn't know you cared", wasn't there? Can't remember the name though...

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StBleach
06/08/2009 18:18
Uncle Staveley

bonso
bonso
06/08/2009 19:26
Wasnt Mort played by Robin Bailey

Maverick1
Phil.
06/08/2009 19:43
That's the fella, Rob!

"I 'eard that, pardon!"


Not sure whether that's getting us anywhere though...

StMarlowe1
St Marlowe
06/08/2009 19:45
Correct Bob!!

bonso
bonso
06/08/2009 19:46
Elgar comes to mind tho Dambusters march and all that from lancaster and Jethro Tull used to play it from time to time

StMarlowe1
St Marlowe
06/08/2009 23:00
Quote:
Elgar comes to mind tho Dambusters march and all that from lancaster and Jethro Tull used to play it from time to time

Where did Lancaster come from?

In my answer to Sarge I said we were not looking for Robin Bailey!

I feel vindicated, this the first time for a few days that it has taken more than 24 hrs!

Stella S
Stella S
06/08/2009 23:19
following on from Ian's thread, 'Uncle Mort, Robin Bailey and Barbara Castle' Motte and Bailey are both parts of a castle!
Not sure where the railway gauge comes in though, nor the post office.

StMarlowe1
St Marlowe
06/08/2009 23:37
Quote:
Stella
Not sure where the railway gauge comes in though, nor the post office
That's because you're wrong about the others!

Great idea though Stella!

( but I have said twice we're not looking for Robin Bailey - and Bleach was correct with Uncle Staveley. )

StMarlowe1
St Marlowe
06/08/2009 23:45
Summary
A Ginga chanteuse, once the straight woman to a Communard,
Sarah Jane Thomas

A tree who is not a Lock,
Courtney Pine

A tribute to an ex Footwarmer,

and a once bad, bad boy
Paul Jones


will all be Frooning this weekend – who and where?
Brecon Festival - (starts Friday Night) - but 1 to get




Not the Uncle who “didn’t know you cared”
Uncle staveley (Not Mort nor Robin Bailey!!)

A standard 1,440mm
Railway Gauge

A Diabolic Blacksmith who caused a remarkable twist

A Public Servant who caused some drivers to huff and puff
Barbara Castle

The Post Office

All come together – where?




What links

The Origins of an early Chrysalis or agricultural inventor
- agricultural inventor = Jethro Tull

The capital (with a porcine heritage) of a region who’s neighbours included Northumberland and Powys

The Birthplace of a would be vicar who was seduced by Coleoptera
Shrewsbury

The Hooker who was “Wales’ Strongest Man’
Robin McBryde

Sarge
Sarge
07/08/2009 00:28
No.2: Chesterfield

Staveley is part of Chesterfield.

George Stevenson (creator of the standard gauge) is buried there.

In legend a blacksmith in Chesterfield is said to have been asked by the devil to shoe his hooves but instead he drove a nail into the devil's foot. The devil, in a rage, then twisted the spire of the church.

Barbara Castle was born in Chesterfield.

The Royal Mail is the town's biggest employer.

StMarlowe1
St Marlowe
07/08/2009 06:31
First full Answer - well done Sarge

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StBleach
07/08/2009 07:58
Well done Mr Marlowe - excellent set of questions -

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ChrisG
07/08/2009 08:45
Well George Melley's lot were the Footwarmers weren't they?

And i notice theres a Saints connection, John Etheridges Sweet Chorus are playing. Thats twisted logic for you!

StMarlowe1
St Marlowe
07/08/2009 09:23
Expand on the Melly connection with Brecon, and you've got it Chris

Roger Melley the man on the Telly???

So Lancaster isn't the answer to that bit? You might have mentioned that a bit less cryptically.
I was guessing important cities between Westmoreland and Powys, now I need to look up the word porcine and some medieval maps!!!

No alcohol for January. I'm a dryathlete in aid of cancer research.

Dryathlon

Oh right porcine is pig like. Swindon I believe means Pig hill so I guess it's Swindon. Swindon town were managed by Glen Hoddle so I gues the answer to that one is our very own Chris who must have surely passed through Shrewsbury, Swindon and passed this cholera or what ever she's called resting place on his journey around the grounds. Do i win the two weeks in Malaga?

No alcohol for January. I'm a dryathlete in aid of cancer research.

Dryathlon

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ChrisG
07/08/2009 10:15
Oi i've just read the top bit, my run rate was good and lasted a few days! How very dare you!

MESSAGES->author
ChrisG
07/08/2009 10:18
Would it be the George Melly sculpture/statue thing?

StMarlowe1
St Marlowe
07/08/2009 10:52
Correct Chris
"The Melly Band" will be touring the streets collecting for the statue.

Rich
Love the stream of conciousness,but unfortunately it is wildly inacurate.
You were doing OK until Swindon.

Ok fine is Cheshire between Powys and Westmorland and if so is it Chester surely there's a Chester pig of some description

No alcohol for January. I'm a dryathlete in aid of cancer research.

Dryathlon

StMarlowe1
St Marlowe
07/08/2009 13:27
Indeed Rich!!

























I believe I went out with her on several unmomentous occasions - but alas, Not Chester!

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ChrisG
07/08/2009 14:02
Or is it boar instead of pig we're looking for and going back in time when places like Mercia were a kingdom?

That's the theory I'm working on mate. Powys being a bit of Wales and Westmorland being bit's of Cumbria and Yorksire. So there's a territory in between them with a capital which is pig/pork/boar like.

No alcohol for January. I'm a dryathlete in aid of cancer research.

Dryathlon

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smurfomatic
07/08/2009 14:27
How about Hereford? Former county town and a breed of pig.

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StMarlowe1
St Marlowe
07/08/2009 14:32
Not a Boar
Not Hereford
But Historical is on the right lines

oakers1510
Tracy O
07/08/2009 15:32
Chaps, can I suggest you try Tamworth, suitably piggy (Tamworth Two etc) and one time capital of Mercia.

Other than that I'm sorry but I haven't a clue....



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StMarlowe1
St Marlowe
07/08/2009 22:57
O Tracy you rascal - is indeed Tamworth one time capital of Mercia

Now what's the Link??

Robyn McBride flying Jethro Tull to a gig in Shrewsbury in a Tamworth Bomber?

No alcohol for January. I'm a dryathlete in aid of cancer research.

Dryathlon

Sarge
Sarge
08/08/2009 16:10
Stangely enough, Jethro Tull were supposed to be playing a gig in Shrewsbury this weekend, but they've pulled out because the promoter doesn't have any money.

StMarlowe1
St Marlowe
08/08/2009 21:28
If you can discover where Jethro Tull were from (not whatever they were called before) ie when "Jethro Tull" first came into being, and the McBryde connection, you'll get the answer.

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ChrisG
08/08/2009 22:10
Luton?

StMarlowe1
St Marlowe
09/08/2009 00:00
Right Postcode - Wrong Town

Got it. Jethro Tull are being driven by Robyn McBride to their gig in Tamworth via Shrewsbury in a Bedford van.

No alcohol for January. I'm a dryathlete in aid of cancer research.

Dryathlon

StMarlowe1
St Marlowe
09/08/2009 09:45
The place you are looking for has very little of note, save its answer in this question!

But Dave they've never made any Vans in Leicester!

No alcohol for January. I'm a dryathlete in aid of cancer research.

Dryathlon

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ChrisG
09/08/2009 10:57
Ian Anderson lived very local to this neck of the woods up until quite recently (or might still do), are we looking Leighton Buzzard way?

StMarlowe1
St Marlowe
09/08/2009 11:17
Split the Difference, Chris!

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smurfomatic
09/08/2009 11:21
Dunstable?

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StMarlowe1
St Marlowe
09/08/2009 15:25
AT LAST!
Now answer the final part of the question - What links them?

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ChrisG
09/08/2009 16:49
Are they all on Watling Street

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ChrisG
09/08/2009 17:06
Having just checked on Mr McBrydes birthplace i'm plumping for the above A5/Watling Street.

StMarlowe1
St Marlowe
09/08/2009 17:58
Summary
A Ginga chanteuse, once the straight woman to a Communard,
Sarah Jane Thomas, sang on "Don't leave me this way"

A tree who is not a Lock,
Courtney Pine

A tribute to an ex Footwarmer,
The Melly Band street musicians collecting for the proposed statue of George Melly, once of John Chilton's Feetwarmers.

and a once bad, bad boy
Paul Jones


will all be Frooning this weekend – who and where?

- Brecon Festival - (starts Friday Night)




Not the Uncle who “didn’t know you cared”
- Uncle staveley (Not Mort nor Robin Bailey!!). Stavely is a part of Chesterfield

A standard 1,440mm
- Railway Gauge, Stephenson inventor of the standard gauge, lived and set up his works in Chesterfield

A Diabolic Blacksmith who caused a remarkable twist
- It is said that a blacksmith was shoeing the devil, when he pierced his hoof. The devil sreamed and jumped up onto the cathedral spire, twisting it.


A Public Servant who caused some drivers to huff and puff
- Barbara Castle, who as Minister of Transport, introduced the breathalyser and seat-belts, was born in Chesterfield.

The Post Office
- Has it's Royal Mail Admin centre in Chesterfield.

All come together – where? in Chesterfield




What links

The Origins of an early Chrysalis or agricultural inventor
- agricultural inventor = Jethro Tull
- Clive Bunker, founder member of Jethro Tull - Dunstable
- managed by the Chrysalis empire.

The capital (with a porcine heritage) of a region who’s neighbours included Northumberland and Powys
- Tamworth, Capital of Mercia, bounded by Northumberland to the North and Powys to the West

The Birthplace of a would be vicar who was seduced by Coleoptera
- Charles Darwin was born at Shrewsbury (and is buried there), was studying at Cambridge for the clergy, but became fascinated by the study of beetles (Coleoptera)

The Hooker who was “Wales’ Strongest Man’
- Robin McBryde, Wales' Stronest man, was brought up in and played for Menai Bridge, before moving to play for Llanelli

- What links them is the A5



I will produce some more for tomorrow, but please bear with me as Old Pete has departed for the sun and left us in the lurch!



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2009:08:10:08:00:35 by St Marlowe.

oakers1510
Tracy O
10/08/2009 07:41
Towcester??

StMarlowe1
St Marlowe
10/08/2009 07:58
Whoops - Thanks Tracy - Tamworth of course - too much Shiraz last evening!!

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