Any chance of this?
Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Any chance of this?
By Grockle
June 11 2008
A sold out County Ground awaits a short format campaign to rival the glory days of 2005. The weather is overcast at 4:15 but it all looks on the cards for astart at 5:30. Rumours are that we are resting Willoughby and the side in the programme looks short on ew names and spin but we'll await the announcement nearer the time.
Any chance of this?
June 11 2008
A sold out County Ground awaits a short format campaign to rival the glory days of 2005. The weather is overcast at 4:15 but it all looks on the cards for astart at 5:30. Rumours are that we are resting Willoughby and the side in the programme looks short on ew names and spin but we'll await the announcement nearer the time.
v Northants 20/20 @ Taunton Wednesday 11 June 2008
Somerset Sound are 'Ball by Balling' this one - link on the left hand side.
"Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends. We're so glad you could attend come inside come inside"
The side as advertised in a very early programme is as follows;
Trescothick, Keiswetter, Langer, Hildreth, Blackwell, de Bruyn, Phillips, Thomas, Jones, Trego, Willoughby
Charl will not play according to the official website so expect to either see Wes Durston or Omari Banks (perhaps?). The site is also promoting the return of Mark Turner so who will make way for him? Anyway I'll update when I get more info...assuming the Wi-Fi holds up. If not Phil Tottle will be on the radio from 5:30 - comisserations on the sad news Phil but welcome back.
Somerset won the toss and have chosen to bowl first. For those of you who have a huge interest in this type of thing.....the kit is the SAME for the 20/20 event. Durston is in for de Bruyn. Banks is in for Phillips and Turner is in for Willoughby. Not that much of a surprise and we finally see Omari play a "first class game" in anger.
O'Brian and White are opening for Northants and Thomas is taking the new ball from the OP end. His first two go past the bat but the third goes into the graveyard as White gets his measure. A slow ball nearly fools him at the end of the over as Alfonso goes for 12. Mark Turner is first on at the other end. He immediately generates loadsa pace and Nothants move to 19 after 2. Turner looks really good.
O'Brien smacks one to the boundary from "Fonzies" first ball of the third. Unfortunately it doesn't get there as Jones flies through the air and takes an excellent catch to send him on his way for 10. 19 for 1 but the Botham is still sparsely populated and the green scoreboard seats are only half covered with bottoms. There are tickets available for these matches I tell thee!! Thomas is bowling to a larger off field and he gets murdered in the rest of the over with two fours to the LEG boundary and a straight six over his head. Welcome to Twenty20 Alfonso! 36 in 3 and 17 off that one. Probably won't get another one.
Turner is varying his run up but full balls are going to the boards and White sends his second and third that way. But he gets himself back on track and they don't pass 50 yet. On comes Jones at the OP as Thomas is not allowed to add to his 29 off two.
But very little changes as half volleys are punished and slow balls get flying lessons. by the end of his first Northants are on 62 and Jonah may not get another one. It's all a but loose and batting fodder I'm afraid. Mark comes in off the short run and White swings the bat but the ball goes straight to Thomas in the deep and it's 63 for 2 with White clocking up a very rapid 45 (20 balls 6 fours and 3 sixes). At the end of the 6th four byes take the visitors to 72.
One run off the 7th from Jonah and Blackwell on for the 8th calms it down a bit. Only 77 by the 8th and on comes Banks at the OP. He nearly gets a wicket from his first (ful toss) as Sales tries to go over the top and only just gets it past Trescothick's fingertips (not all of them even) he finishes by going past Sales' bat and a fair 5 runs conceded. At the halfway mark, the ground is still not bursting at the seams and they have 87.
Part Two starts with Banks to Hall and a boundary off the first but we keep them below 100 (by one). However, a 'smack me hard' ball from Ian Blackwell gives Hall the chance to bring it up with a six into the new stand followed by a flurry of boundaries adn 113 at the end of the 12th - not great up until now. Omari continues the trend by bieng hammered over the OP with the first ball of the 13th. The third of the over is even worse (can it be?) one that plops halfway down the strip and pops up to be murdered.127 after 13 with 13 off the over.
Thomas changes ends for the 14th and Hall goes to a 30 ball 50 with 5 fours and 2 sixes. The opposition look in no bother at all and Langer may be rueing the decision to rest all three of his main seamers. Phillips was probably a bowler too far. However this is a better over from Al with only 7 off it. Steff is back on at the OP and puts in another good over. 141 at 15 - 200 on?
Justin is keeping them guessing as Blackwell replaces Thomas for 16. It works for a while but a six off the 3rd keeps the score ticking. BUT before they get to 150 Ian gets Hall for 54. He tried to swat it and is stumped. 148 for 3. But that just brings Klusener out although he doesn't do any real damage for the rest of the 16th.
Wes is on for the 17th and the 150 comes up off his first. It doesn't get better as he goes for 10 off the next 2. 16 off the next 3, 22 off the next 4....and a single off the last one. "Fed him to the Lions" is the decision here. Sales is happy! Wes is most certainly not! 173 off 17.
Turner returns at the OP and some level of sanity is re-applied 179 with 12 balls to go and the double hundred is still on as Jonah is bowled out. Sales takes them into the 190's with another six into the graveyard. Klusener tries the same thing and provides a steepling chance to Marcus who doesn't get under it and fails to keep the ball in his hands. They make us pay and move to 197 with 6 balls to go. It's left to the man who started to finish. Thomas from the River.
Ball 1 - single. Ball 2 - single. Ball 3 - single (20o up for Northants). Ball 4 - dot ball. Ball 5 - wicket to Jones on the midwicket boundary bye bye Klusener. Ball 6 - single - really good pressure over. 201 for 4.
The Reply
Justin joins Marcus to start the reply and MT hits the second ball for four to show his intent. After 2 overs we are 23 up and even though Banger should have been run out third ball they are looking like they mean business. Especially Trescothick who has blasted his way to 23 of 31 at the end of the third - on track at the moment. The light is failing but the runs keep coming as Marcus moves into the 30's and we move into the 40's. As the 50 drops below Banger's bat he sixes Louw and goes to 42 himself. He follows that with a second six in the fifth over. He goes to 50 with 4, 6, 6, 4. A 50 off 20 balls with 9 fours and 2 sixes!! Justin has 5 and Marcus takes us to 66 with another 4 as we finish the 5th with a dot.
Langer tries to get in on the act by flatbatting a four over the infield. Nearly doesn' make it but gets his first boundary and goes into double figures in the 6th and finishes the over in style with a much classier boundary. They fight back by putting Klusener on at the OP and he keeps us in check until a classy shot from the skipper opens up the field. But a much better over for the visitors. The moment Trescothick gets back on strike he's flipping the South African for six into the new stand. 90 for 0 after 7.
Boje is the first spinner we see but Langer's response is all too familiar as it bounces into the boards off a reverse sweep. 99 at the end of the over and we are on track still!! Don't get your hopes up yet though. Brown comes on at the OP to try and stop the rot and the captan takes the single to bring up the 100 off his first.
Marcus mistimes one from Jason at 104 and is caught in the infield by Sales for 69 with the last bal of the 9th. Trego is next man in - seeing him earlier - let's see what he can do. 107 at 10 and it's calmed down considerably as the Northants spinners put the brakes on while Pete gets his eye in (hopefully). The light is getting much worse - we'd probably be off in any other game.
Trigger smacks a six to the Botham to take the score to 123 halfway through the 12th and that is how it stays at the end of the 12th. Langer gives Brown the charge at the start of the 13th and is bowled. If you charge JL hit the flaming thing!! In comes Blackwell at 123 for 2.
By the end of the 14th it is not as certain. They were ahead of us by 9. We have 132 but a full toss to Blackwell changes that slightly as he puts it into the Brewhouse car park. They are taking the singles but the boundaries are not coming as thick or as fast...except for Trego's six over the OP of course which takes us to 146. It's 147 at 15 and we need 55 off the last 5. Ahead of what the visitors had but there was a huge over against Durston in their score.
Very dark and it does for Blackwell who miscalculates one and is LBW at 148. In comes Hildreth. Boje bowls him first ball 148 for 4 and the game is moving away from us. Justin now sends in Durston!! (Why not Craig?).
148 for 4 at the end of the 16th. 54 off 4 Boje's over counted for 2 wickets for 1 run...not exactly a Durston one!! Hall bowls the 17th to Trego to start with. The light isn't going to change and they are finding the boundary very hard to find (or see even). Wes is playing forward defensive strokes and scuttling ones when we need fours and lots of twos. Wes does't stay long though as Trego hits one to long off and Wes is run out as Klusener whips the ball to Hall. Omari arrives ahead of Kieswetter (Why?) as we go past 150 needing a lot of runs with not a lot of balls. 50 off 3!! To say we have lost our way is a major under statement!!
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Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Posted by: Grockles.com (IP Logged)
Date: 11/06/2008 16:20
Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Re: Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 11/06/2008 16:40
No problem Bloke but I thought they were only doing the ones that Somerset Sound weren't doing.
Anyway, the more the merrier.
I'll try and keep up with play as it goes but I'm unsure about the internet coverage here in the evening. It tends to be better in the morning. Never mind the sun is coming out.
They have two temporary stands; one in the usual place by the old shop - about 900 capacity, the other is behind the green seats where the Organ Works used to be (next to the match control centre - a wooden shed on a flat roof) which will hold about 600. Other than that they have a few rows of seats in front of the white picket fence by the Ondaaajte (?)
They say the capcity is about 5000. We'll see how many seats are empty when we start.
Anyway, the more the merrier.
I'll try and keep up with play as it goes but I'm unsure about the internet coverage here in the evening. It tends to be better in the morning. Never mind the sun is coming out.
They have two temporary stands; one in the usual place by the old shop - about 900 capacity, the other is behind the green seats where the Organ Works used to be (next to the match control centre - a wooden shed on a flat roof) which will hold about 600. Other than that they have a few rows of seats in front of the white picket fence by the Ondaaajte (?)
They say the capcity is about 5000. We'll see how many seats are empty when we start.
northants team
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 10/06/2008 14:48
The Northants side at Taunton tomorrow will give a very good indication of how serious the ECB are taking the Indian cricket board threat to ban any English county from the Ł2.5 million Champions League this autumn - if they field any player in this month`s 20/20 tournament who took part in the unofficial ICL earlier this year.
It may be the case (???) that the ECB have given 11th hour advice to the counties on the quiet, but nothing has been made public.
Northants could be at risk four times over tomorrow - skipper Nicky Boje, Andrew Hall, Lance Klusener and Johannes Van der Wath.
Interestingly, Somerset are one of only three counties without an ICL-contaminated player (in the nicest possible sense) in their squad. The others are Essex and Middlesex, although not all the other counties would necessarily consider their ICL players in the first choice 20/20 XI.
But will the ECB go ahead with allowing two English sides to take part in the Champions League, if they can only choose our representatives from a handful of counties?
It may be the case (???) that the ECB have given 11th hour advice to the counties on the quiet, but nothing has been made public.
Northants could be at risk four times over tomorrow - skipper Nicky Boje, Andrew Hall, Lance Klusener and Johannes Van der Wath.
Interestingly, Somerset are one of only three counties without an ICL-contaminated player (in the nicest possible sense) in their squad. The others are Essex and Middlesex, although not all the other counties would necessarily consider their ICL players in the first choice 20/20 XI.
But will the ECB go ahead with allowing two English sides to take part in the Champions League, if they can only choose our representatives from a handful of counties?
Re: northants team
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/06/2008 15:17
Not going to happen. As I read it, the proposal is only that players that played in the ICL will not be able to play in the final stages. Not that their teams will be banned.
Re: northants team
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 10/06/2008 15:24
Some further research into all this shows (surprise, surprise) the ECB to be rather sitting on the fence.
They say that it is all up to Cricket Australia, who have been tasked with drawing up the rules and regulations for the Champions League and will present them to the ICC meeting in Dubai later this month.
But by then, of couse, our 20/20 season will be nearly over.
So the covert ECB message seems to be: You select your ICL players for 20/20 matches at your own risk.
They say that it is all up to Cricket Australia, who have been tasked with drawing up the rules and regulations for the Champions League and will present them to the ICC meeting in Dubai later this month.
But by then, of couse, our 20/20 season will be nearly over.
So the covert ECB message seems to be: You select your ICL players for 20/20 matches at your own risk.
Re: northants team
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 10/06/2008 15:28
But surely if ICL players help them qualify for the Champs League, they shouldn't be allowed into it?...he said with smug smile on his face cos it's not Somerset's problem.
It would be a bit weird if, say, 4 ICL players help a team qualify for the Champs League, maybe along with another player or two who have to play for their IPL team, then have to be replaced for the finals.
Also, Mascarenhas, the Hants captain who has played for them for, I guess 5+ years, has to play for Rajasthan, for whom he played no more than 1 or 2 games...nuts, absolutely nuts.
It would be a bit weird if, say, 4 ICL players help a team qualify for the Champs League, maybe along with another player or two who have to play for their IPL team, then have to be replaced for the finals.
Also, Mascarenhas, the Hants captain who has played for them for, I guess 5+ years, has to play for Rajasthan, for whom he played no more than 1 or 2 games...nuts, absolutely nuts.
Re: northants team
Posted by: SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
Date: 10/06/2008 15:30
I don't think it's the ECB's fault - it's ICC, in cahoots with their Indian masters.
Re: northants team
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/06/2008 15:32
The IPL and Indian Board have got far, far too big for their own boots.
It's patently absurd that Mascharenas should represent some junk IPL franchise rather than the County for whom he has toiled for years.
It's patently absurd that Mascharenas should represent some junk IPL franchise rather than the County for whom he has toiled for years.
Re: northants team
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 10/06/2008 15:48
I'm reliably informed that the County chairman have agreed that they will all play their ICL players, come hell or high water and challenge the orgnaizers to throw out 15 teams if they really want to stand their ground.
I have to say, I think they'll win.
If they don't, then oursleves and Essex will probably go through.
I think we'll only be an average - at best 20:20 team but I think Middx will be a really bad one.
Essex are good at all of the short competitions.
I have to say, I think they'll win.
If they don't, then oursleves and Essex will probably go through.
I think we'll only be an average - at best 20:20 team but I think Middx will be a really bad one.
Essex are good at all of the short competitions.
Re: northants and Somerset teams
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 10/06/2008 18:03
Andy Caddick will not be playing (championship only) Willoughby (rested) Trego may only play has a batsman.
The full Squad on the other site.
The full Squad on the other site.
Re: northants team
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 10/06/2008 18:11
If Trego has a side strain, is he not at risk in the frenetic batting and fielding associated with Twenty20, whether he bowls or not? He is too precious to our CC chances to risk aggravating his injury.
What's wrong with playing one of our better stroke players, Edwards, or Francis, who has a surprisingly good record in the competition.
Or could we take one M J Wood on loan from Notts?
Anyway, BJ and I will there with our wigs and frocks queuing from early afternoon.
LoL
Sixty-two Seasons a Somerset Supporter
What's wrong with playing one of our better stroke players, Edwards, or Francis, who has a surprisingly good record in the competition.
Or could we take one M J Wood on loan from Notts?
Anyway, BJ and I will there with our wigs and frocks queuing from early afternoon.
LoL
Sixty-two Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: northants team
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 10/06/2008 18:16
There are a number of interesting little questions with this competition.
Banks to play? Gazzard to play as a batsman or be given the golves? Francis to play because of his excellent infielding? Suppiah to make an appearance on the same kind of ticket? Wes to comeback into contention? Hildreth to bowl? Will they put Munday on the dry wickets? Who will open? Who will play instead of Willow (rested)?
It's worth the matches just to watch the complexities of it all.
And will anyone come out of it with a reputation that will keep them in contention for the rest of the season ala Carl Gazzard of 3 years ago (?)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:06:10:18:18:35 by Grockle.
Banks to play? Gazzard to play as a batsman or be given the golves? Francis to play because of his excellent infielding? Suppiah to make an appearance on the same kind of ticket? Wes to comeback into contention? Hildreth to bowl? Will they put Munday on the dry wickets? Who will open? Who will play instead of Willow (rested)?
It's worth the matches just to watch the complexities of it all.
And will anyone come out of it with a reputation that will keep them in contention for the rest of the season ala Carl Gazzard of 3 years ago (?)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:06:10:18:18:35 by Grockle.
Re: northants team
Posted by: doc hennessy (IP Logged)
Date: 10/06/2008 19:32
Squad is announced :Blackwell!, Trescothick, Langer, Hildreth, De Bruyn , Keiswetter,Durston, Thomas , Phillips, Jones, Turner, Banks, Trego (batsman only, if he plays). No Francis, Munday, Edwards or Gazzard.
Surely Wes must play, and I would have thought Arul might have had a chance too.
4-prong seamer attack...hmmm.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:06:11:10:07:00 by doc hennessy.
Surely Wes must play, and I would have thought Arul might have had a chance too.
4-prong seamer attack...hmmm.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:06:11:10:07:00 by doc hennessy.
Re: northants team
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 10/06/2008 20:07
Grockle what are these golves being given to Gazzard. Will he need some irons and a putter?
Re: northants team
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 10/06/2008 20:36
golves for keeping wolves from the wicket...
LoL
Sixty-two Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-two Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: northants team
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 10/06/2008 21:54
Quote:doc hennessy
Squad is announced : Trescothick, Langer, Hildreth, De Bruyn , Keiswetter,Durston, Thomas , Phillips, Jones, Turner, Banks, Trego (batsman only, if he plays). No Francis, Munday, Edwards or Gazzard.
Surely Wes must play, and I would have thought Arul might have had a chance too.
4-prong seamer attack...hmmm.
Strengthens the case for a ftm, after the first five overs.
Re: northants team
Posted by: doc hennessy (IP Logged)
Date: 11/06/2008 07:46
Might need to plug gaps elsewhere if Klusener et al start middling it.
Shouldn't tonight's opponents be called the Steelpaks?
Shouldn't tonight's opponents be called the Steelpaks?
Re: northants team
Posted by: geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
Date: 11/06/2008 07:50
Doc , you were missing that mighty man Blackwell-the lynch pin. At least our squad has some integrity. Pollock makes his debut for Durham!!!!
Re: northants team
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 11/06/2008 08:02
Nice one doc - or the Kolboks
LoL
Sixty-two Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-two Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: northants team
Posted by: doc hennessy (IP Logged)
Date: 11/06/2008 08:36
Well spotted LOL. Ian would actually be the first name on my team sheet for this form of the game, and IMHO his omission last year was the main reason for our early departure.
Re: northants team
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 11/06/2008 09:25
No Caddick. No Willow. No Ian.
That's great stuff. Well done, Mr Rose. Sense has prevailed.
Before anyone gets all riled about Ian not playing - remember the knee brace. Remember we're going for the holy grail of the CC.
And I agree with LoL. No Trego please. Too much risk of aggravating the side strain.
On fantasy grounds, I will now have to make the switch I was considering anyway and put Nicky Boje in to my team instead of Ian.
I had already withdrawn Charl from my team in anticipation that he would be rested for at least some games.
I am, however, very dissappointed that there is no sign of Arul Suppiah. Bad decision, in my view.
p.s. one point that people might not be aware of; I had a look in my Wisdens through some old 20:20 games and, when he was at Northants, Mr Phillips made at least two big scores with the bat. All the more reason not to deploy Pete.
That's great stuff. Well done, Mr Rose. Sense has prevailed.
Before anyone gets all riled about Ian not playing - remember the knee brace. Remember we're going for the holy grail of the CC.
And I agree with LoL. No Trego please. Too much risk of aggravating the side strain.
On fantasy grounds, I will now have to make the switch I was considering anyway and put Nicky Boje in to my team instead of Ian.
I had already withdrawn Charl from my team in anticipation that he would be rested for at least some games.
I am, however, very dissappointed that there is no sign of Arul Suppiah. Bad decision, in my view.
p.s. one point that people might not be aware of; I had a look in my Wisdens through some old 20:20 games and, when he was at Northants, Mr Phillips made at least two big scores with the bat. All the more reason not to deploy Pete.
Re: northants team
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 11/06/2008 09:26
And even if Ian didn't have the knee injury, his record with the bat is surprisingly modest in 20:20. I think this is because, contrary to Ian's reputation with the likes of Agnew, he is someone who likes to play himself in for 20 balls or so before going into the attack. If you're batting at 5 or so in 20:20 you rarely have that luxury.
Re: northants team
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 11/06/2008 09:37
er.. I take it all back.. it seems Ian has been included as per the official list. I'd assumed it was a cut and paste job from the official site but, apparently, not.
Re: northants team
Posted by: doc hennessy (IP Logged)
Date: 11/06/2008 10:15
It won't let you cut and paste AG. Need Ian to choke off the runs,as much as to get them. Whatever happened in the past, he's in great nick at the moment.
Re: northants team
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 11/06/2008 10:34
Just a quick note to say Apple AM are doing coverage of the match tonight. This is on AM for locals, Interweb for exiles, and super quality sound providing a silver lining for those unlucky enough to be in Musgrove.
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Re: northants team
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 11/06/2008 11:19
He's also got a knee requiring a brace for support though, Doc. I don't think it's worth the risk of deploying him anymore than it is the risk of playing Pete.
Re: Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 11/06/2008 16:43
Caddy is warming up despite being 'rested' according to sources. Mark Turner is also warming up and he is a 'definite' according to sources.
Re: Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 11/06/2008 16:54
I don't understand why Mark did not appear to be considered for the last couple of CC games? But I'm glad that he's back in the first team picture now. I'm a bit surprised that he's a definite for the 20:20 though. My money was on Jonah and Alphonso being the definites and Phillips a 'highly probable.'
I hope Caddy does not play. He did also warm up - or so I gather - in the intervals of various recent first-team games in which he was never intending to play.
I would also have to say that both AC and MT playing would be a slightly long tail for this form of the game?
I hope Caddy does not play. He did also warm up - or so I gather - in the intervals of various recent first-team games in which he was never intending to play.
I would also have to say that both AC and MT playing would be a slightly long tail for this form of the game?
Re: Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 11/06/2008 17:06
Tres, Craig, JL, Hilda, Blackie, Trigger, Omari, Wes, Jonah, Alfonso, Turner....that's yer lot.
Re: Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 11/06/2008 17:16
Certainly plenty of bowling on paper there.
Jonah, Alphonso and Ian to definitely bowl four overs, I'd imagine.
Turner, Omari, Wes and Hildreth to bowl 8 overs in some combination between them. Probably the initial plan is simply for Turner and Omari to bowl four overs each, but the other two will bowl, should the first two falter?
Jonah, Alphonso and Ian to definitely bowl four overs, I'd imagine.
Turner, Omari, Wes and Hildreth to bowl 8 overs in some combination between them. Probably the initial plan is simply for Turner and Omari to bowl four overs each, but the other two will bowl, should the first two falter?
Re: Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 11/06/2008 17:23
It's 5:25 and half the Botham stand and 70% of the green stands in front of the scoreboard have no-one in them. The top end of the ground (OP end) is well populated but those two areas are very sparse. But here we go everyone.
Re: Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 11/06/2008 17:26
I thought we were "sold out"????
So much for that marketing spin then?
So much for that marketing spin then?
Re: Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Posted by: BVI Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 11/06/2008 19:25
Bloomin' eck. Fireworks.
BVI Grockle
BVI Grockle
Re: Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 11/06/2008 20:06
Lots of seats left. Think they got their VP attendance prediction wrong. but the fireworks have stopped and we are on the verge of losing this one.
Re: Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 11/06/2008 20:40
BJ: That wig does not go with that frock. No wonder we lost.
LoL
Sixty-two Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-two Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Posted by: Ww (IP Logged)
Date: 11/06/2008 21:26
Just got home:
Afew points -
- We gave away far too many runs with the bowling and fielding.
- Wes Durston? Waste of space!
- Omari and Blackie bowled better than their figures suggested.
- Tresco batted very well until he got out, i honestly thought he would easily get 100.
- Kieswetter cannot be blamed for anything today, somehow he has gone from opening the one day (and twenty20 last year) batting to being number 8. What is happening there?
- Omari threw everything at the ball in order to get some runs, unlike others who just played defensively and seemed to like dot balls (Wes!?)
- Hilders was disapointing but not much can be said as he only faced one ball, which for all we know may have turned a mile.
- Trego batted well, but for me he is not a number 3 batsmen, although he kept the run rate ticking. I think after the good opening stand we needed to bring in Blackie or Kieswetter to keep the boundaries coming instead of just having the quick singles from Trego.
Afew points -
- We gave away far too many runs with the bowling and fielding.
- Wes Durston? Waste of space!
- Omari and Blackie bowled better than their figures suggested.
- Tresco batted very well until he got out, i honestly thought he would easily get 100.
- Kieswetter cannot be blamed for anything today, somehow he has gone from opening the one day (and twenty20 last year) batting to being number 8. What is happening there?
- Omari threw everything at the ball in order to get some runs, unlike others who just played defensively and seemed to like dot balls (Wes!?)
- Hilders was disapointing but not much can be said as he only faced one ball, which for all we know may have turned a mile.
- Trego batted well, but for me he is not a number 3 batsmen, although he kept the run rate ticking. I think after the good opening stand we needed to bring in Blackie or Kieswetter to keep the boundaries coming instead of just having the quick singles from Trego.
Re: Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 11/06/2008 21:51
My take on things.
My wife thought we were second rate in most departments.
I'd be kinder and say we were second best in almost all deprtments. The swap Arul for Omari brigade can feel quite smug!
We did the hard part and won the toss, then gave back the advantage by fielding. The later light was always going to be difficult and to be fair, it was very difficult to see the ball late on. I was very glad the guy in front of me stopped a ball, as I hardly saw it!
We only conceded one wide, which was a great improvement on last year. None of our bowlers looked like the could bowl consistently, which is probably what cost us, together with some poor fielding (unlike us).
As others have said, great empty spaces and the signs outside stated, all matches 'Sold Out'. I did manage to sell my spare ticket!
One plus note, Banger was sublime after a slightly nervous start. I'm especially glad I bought a 'Tres' tie!
My wife thought we were second rate in most departments.
I'd be kinder and say we were second best in almost all deprtments. The swap Arul for Omari brigade can feel quite smug!
We did the hard part and won the toss, then gave back the advantage by fielding. The later light was always going to be difficult and to be fair, it was very difficult to see the ball late on. I was very glad the guy in front of me stopped a ball, as I hardly saw it!
We only conceded one wide, which was a great improvement on last year. None of our bowlers looked like the could bowl consistently, which is probably what cost us, together with some poor fielding (unlike us).
As others have said, great empty spaces and the signs outside stated, all matches 'Sold Out'. I did manage to sell my spare ticket!
One plus note, Banger was sublime after a slightly nervous start. I'm especially glad I bought a 'Tres' tie!
Re: Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 11/06/2008 22:23
I hope your wife doesn't think you're second rate in any department.
Re: Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 11/06/2008 23:23
Quote:BristolRob
I hope your wife doesn't think you're second rate in any department.
Fortunately she seems very happy!
Re: Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 11/06/2008 23:34
She must be easy to please!
Sorry this is a bit off topic Wurz
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Sorry this is a bit off topic Wurz
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Re: Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Posted by: averageside (IP Logged)
Date: 11/06/2008 23:36
Quote From Brian Rose " Unfortunately Ben Phillips had to the miss the game(20/20) after suffering concussion in an accident while loading the bowling machine in the indoor nets"
THe mind boggles,Looks like there maybe a new vacancy for someone wearing a helmet putting Balls in the machine. look out for an advertised vacancy.
THe mind boggles,Looks like there maybe a new vacancy for someone wearing a helmet putting Balls in the machine. look out for an advertised vacancy.
Re: Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 11/06/2008 23:38
This story could be a load of balls
Re: Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Posted by: fRed (IP Logged)
Date: 11/06/2008 23:49
He must learn what to do when someone shouts "duck".
Cricket's the winner.
Cricket's the winner.
Re: Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Posted by: Mike BOS (IP Logged)
Date: 11/06/2008 23:50
My information is that he cut open the top of his head and was being sick. (concussion)
Re: Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Posted by: fRed (IP Logged)
Date: 11/06/2008 23:58
So who takes the blame for this?
Cricket's the winner.
Cricket's the winner.
Re: Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 12/06/2008 00:27
I'm sorry about the wig LoL,I actually thought it was your St Trinians outfit that ruined the evening.
Re: Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 12/06/2008 08:00
... at least you could shave your legs next time
LoL
Sixty-two Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-two Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/06/2008 09:28
well, if Mr Rose wants to do well in this he'll have to play Charl anyway because our chances - sans Cameron White - of chasing down 200 or so in games at Taunton are no better than 1 in 4, at best. Therefore, it would be better to be chasing less than 200!
Personally, I hope Mr Rose couldn't give a fig so we don't waste Charl.
I'd have thought Arul might get a game next time at the expense of poor old Wes, though.
Indeed, part of the reason why I did not think we should play important CC players in the 20:20 was not only because the CC is more important but because I did not expect us to be a top team in this competition anyway.
I think it's almost unarguable who our best 20:20 player was, namely Cameron. You could argue about who our 2nd best 20:20 player was, but I'd say it might well have been Matt Wood.
Personally, I hope Mr Rose couldn't give a fig so we don't waste Charl.
I'd have thought Arul might get a game next time at the expense of poor old Wes, though.
Indeed, part of the reason why I did not think we should play important CC players in the 20:20 was not only because the CC is more important but because I did not expect us to be a top team in this competition anyway.
I think it's almost unarguable who our best 20:20 player was, namely Cameron. You could argue about who our 2nd best 20:20 player was, but I'd say it might well have been Matt Wood.
Re: Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/06/2008 09:30
Other point to raise; why bowl first??????
It doesn't take a genius to work out that the light is worse later? And this particular opponent boasts two fine spin bowlers, too.
It doesn't take a genius to work out that the light is worse later? And this particular opponent boasts two fine spin bowlers, too.
Re: Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 12/06/2008 10:48
The most disappointing aspect was that our approach seemed so lacking in any sort of strategy - or indeed interest - when we fielded.
Four of our players shambled onto the playing area in front of the pavilion five minutes before the start for an absurd `practice` bowl (two balls each), which meant that the captain led a rag-tag-and-bobtail six players out of the dressing room to join them at 5.30pm. So there was no chance of a stirring round of welcoming applause or even any enthusiasm from a third-rate public address announcer.
Then there was no sense of purpose or endeavour about the team in the field.
It may be unfair to pick out one player, especially a young one in Mark Turner, who by all accounts made an excellent fist of bowling against Lancashire. But it did seem inappropriate that after feeding the Northants openers with a succession of long hops and legside deliveries, he came up laughing, rather than showing annoyance, after the second of two horrible misfields. Perhaps it was nerves.
AGod also makes a good point about fielding first and then having to bat in terrible light.
Why didn`t we take the simple precaution of checking the weather forecast, which from early morning onwards was saying it would cloud over by 7 pm? At least Brian Rose is honest enough to admit that we can`t complain about the conditions, having won the toss.
Four of our players shambled onto the playing area in front of the pavilion five minutes before the start for an absurd `practice` bowl (two balls each), which meant that the captain led a rag-tag-and-bobtail six players out of the dressing room to join them at 5.30pm. So there was no chance of a stirring round of welcoming applause or even any enthusiasm from a third-rate public address announcer.
Then there was no sense of purpose or endeavour about the team in the field.
It may be unfair to pick out one player, especially a young one in Mark Turner, who by all accounts made an excellent fist of bowling against Lancashire. But it did seem inappropriate that after feeding the Northants openers with a succession of long hops and legside deliveries, he came up laughing, rather than showing annoyance, after the second of two horrible misfields. Perhaps it was nerves.
AGod also makes a good point about fielding first and then having to bat in terrible light.
Why didn`t we take the simple precaution of checking the weather forecast, which from early morning onwards was saying it would cloud over by 7 pm? At least Brian Rose is honest enough to admit that we can`t complain about the conditions, having won the toss.
Re: Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/06/2008 10:52
Well, if the players view it as hit and giggle and are disinterested then, hopefully, Mr Rose can stand all the senior guys down. That's what I wanted him to do anyway but it did occur to me that the players might be highly motivated to do well in 20:20 and so would not take kindly to being stood down for more important CC games to come.
If everyone in the club is on board with JL's view that it's the CC that counts, then they should also be okay with several days rest and not playing hit and giggle?
If everyone in the club is on board with JL's view that it's the CC that counts, then they should also be okay with several days rest and not playing hit and giggle?
Re: Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Posted by: Big Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 12/06/2008 10:56
I did.
They're naturally hairy.
I must say those suspenders were a bit risky.
Handy for keeping the chocolates in though.
They're naturally hairy.
I must say those suspenders were a bit risky.
Handy for keeping the chocolates in though.
Re: Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/06/2008 11:27
I see the club are now attempting to shift a total of 600 unsold tickets for three more home games.
And Mr Rose says the following;
“Once again, we have got no runs from our middle order and that is something we will have to look at for next time.”
And
“Northants slow-bowlers bowled well in the middle of the innings, whereas ours went for quite a lot of runs.”
Personally, I don’t really understand what Mr Rose expected the middle order to achieve? Coming in against two decent spinners, requiring at least 8 runs per over, with the field back and zero opportunity to play yourself in? A very difficult job, I would venture to suggest?
I think the bottom line is that if you’re playing on a Taunton style flat-track, in 20:20 you simply HAVE to put all of your quickest scoring players at the top of the order. Ian, for instance, is very seldom someone who hits the cover off the ball in one-day cricket from the very first ball. He plays himself in before he annihilates the bowlers.
To me, if you’re playing at Taunton on a flat-track and you’re trying to do well in the competition, then you need to go with Tresco-Trego-Ian as your top three. If you don’t do that, you’ll probably come up short.
And Mr Rose says the following;
“Once again, we have got no runs from our middle order and that is something we will have to look at for next time.”
And
“Northants slow-bowlers bowled well in the middle of the innings, whereas ours went for quite a lot of runs.”
Personally, I don’t really understand what Mr Rose expected the middle order to achieve? Coming in against two decent spinners, requiring at least 8 runs per over, with the field back and zero opportunity to play yourself in? A very difficult job, I would venture to suggest?
I think the bottom line is that if you’re playing on a Taunton style flat-track, in 20:20 you simply HAVE to put all of your quickest scoring players at the top of the order. Ian, for instance, is very seldom someone who hits the cover off the ball in one-day cricket from the very first ball. He plays himself in before he annihilates the bowlers.
To me, if you’re playing at Taunton on a flat-track and you’re trying to do well in the competition, then you need to go with Tresco-Trego-Ian as your top three. If you don’t do that, you’ll probably come up short.
Re: Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 12/06/2008 11:50
... and what's wrong with Edwards, who happens to be an excellent fielder?
LoL
Sixty-two Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-two Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 12/06/2008 11:53
Have to say, I thought Apple AM's coverage of the game last night was quite poor.
Little or no actual commentary, you usually only knew when someone had bowled when the team all went 'ooooh'. Hardly any score updates either.
Also, there seemed to be the situation where 2 or 3 people were all talking at once, very difficult to listen to.
I hate to criticise these people because they (probably) volunteer and BBC Somerset don't deign to cover Somerset, but this lot have done so much better in the past.
Little or no actual commentary, you usually only knew when someone had bowled when the team all went 'ooooh'. Hardly any score updates either.
Also, there seemed to be the situation where 2 or 3 people were all talking at once, very difficult to listen to.
I hate to criticise these people because they (probably) volunteer and BBC Somerset don't deign to cover Somerset, but this lot have done so much better in the past.
Re: Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Posted by: Exiled Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 12/06/2008 11:54
I'm not happy. My laptop has lost me my longest message 3 times now, so all I'm going to say, is that I agree 100% with Grockles post about last night' proceedings.
The poll is not representative of the Somerset public and we all know what most posters think.
Why do so few newbies come on here? Could they be fossilised by those that won't accept change?
Sorry, this post is on the wrong thread. I blame stress with my laptop.
I am so disaapointed with last night, we really lacked professionalism, which is inexcusable.
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The poll is not representative of the Somerset public and we all know what most posters think.
Why do so few newbies come on here? Could they be fossilised by those that won't accept change?
Sorry, this post is on the wrong thread. I blame stress with my laptop.
I am so disaapointed with last night, we really lacked professionalism, which is inexcusable.
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Re: Northants Twenty20 - Off We Go
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 12/06/2008 12:15
My only thought on Edwards, LoL, is that they are possibly hoping to make him a tad less impetuous in the CC and so don't want to have him play hit-and-giggle where impetuosity is king?
If it's not for that reason?
Then the logic, again, escapes me.
If it's not for that reason?
Then the logic, again, escapes me.
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