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Hunting Hampshire again

Is he in?
By Grockle August 19 2008
Down to the Rosebowl for a pivotal Championship game - our 'game in hand'. Over 20 points is a must as long as the weather gives us the opportunity. Questions about Ben Phillips, Peter Trego and Steffan Jones leave the make-up of the side uncertain but whoever plays needs to give us a top perfromance.

v Hampshire LVCC1 @ The Rosebowl Tuesday 20 August 2008

Scorecard

Rain has delayed the start of this game.  A game we need to take a whole bunch of points in and gain revenge for our one day defeat on Sunday.  There is no team information on the official site or Cricinfo at the present moment but we have most of it I would imagine.

Trescothick, Edwards(?), Langer, de Bruyn, Hildreth, Blackwell, Kieswetter, ?,?,Caddick, Willoughby

The question marks stand by Niel Edwards although I would expect him to play.  The real question is which of our second line of seam attack will play?  We have two places and FOUR bowlers fighting for a place.  Peter Trego is not playing one day games, Ben Phillips seems to be carrying some sort of 'niggle', Steffan Jones is pushing through agressive batting and pacy bowling but can be expensive and Alfonso Thomas is doing very little wrong in any format.  It is doubtful that we will see second spinning options so I would expect the choice to be between these four men. 

But you never know....the mind of Justin is a very complex little place!

We do get started in the afternoon and we don't have our captain.

Marcus Trescothick, no Edwards, Zander de Bruyn (opening?), James Hildreth, Ian Blackwell, Peter Trego, Arul Suppiah, Craig Kieswetter, Alfonso Thomas, Wes Durston, Andrew Caddick, Charl Willoughby

Strange n'est pas?  We aren't batting because Hampshire won the toss and decided to bat.  No idea what the order will be at the moment but we have them at 112 for 4 with 2 wickets each for Willow and Trigger

There was little more play on the first day but some excellent bowling from our whole attack with no-one going for more than 3 an over and wickets to the two above.  Brilliant figures from Thomas - 7 overs for 9 and the pick of the bowlers was Peter Trego with 2 for 18 off his 7.  Ian Blackwell weighed in with 17 off his 11 at 1.5 per over - that's what he can do Mr Langer!  

Day 2 

We ended the day with Hampshire on 113/4 and Lumb dangerously on 49 (but Carberry has gone at least - he loves us!!). The rain delayed the start and shortened the day but we seem to be away on time on day 2.  Caddick and Willoughby are starting the session but it will probably be another 'stop/start' day as the rain clouds are whirling around the bottom half of the country. Rain affected Day 2 but we did get the game moving for at least part of the day.

Ian Blackwell took 'first blood' on Day 2 with the wicket of Dawson at 146.  Then Caddick got the big scalp of Lumb but it took another 80 runs in partnership Ervine and the man passed his century before he was caught behind for 107. Mascarenhas put on 41 but each of our men  came up with one as the home side lost all their remaining wickets for another 90 thanks to Thomas, Caddick, Blackwell and Willoughby.  All out for 316 but it took most of the day and although Marcus and (surprisingly) Arul Suppiah faced a number of overs at the end of the day.  It was really a start and then start again.  They didn't lose a wicket and amassed 41 by the end of play.  Big batting day tomorrow!!

Day 3

Batting the day out and some big scores were what we wanted, so losing Suppiah with only 14 added and then unusually losing de Bruyn cheaply (0!) on the same score was NOT what was required.  Hampshire must have been hoping that Tomlinson (who took both - remember him?) was going to have another one of those days against us.  However, Hildreth is coming out of his slump to some extent and he settled down to put some runs on with Mr T together they took the score to 142 before Banger went to Dawson. 

Wes came in ahead of Ian and got involved in a mix up with Hildreth who was run out as he reached his 50 and his side reched 150 for 4! Bonus points looked a long way off and any kind of result in this even further.  Another game for Blackwell to come in and take by the scruff.  We've hoped for it all season.  He'd bowled well in this game and the Surrey match as well but could he provide the batting strength we needed to put us back in this game and abo ve Notts in the table?

Well first of all he put 47 on with Durston before Wes went LBW to Tahir just before 200.  He then put on another 54 with Kieswetter before he went to Tahir caught by Adams.  Then he and Trego - the well rested duo - moved into another gear and moved the score to 339 before Trigger went to - you've guessed it - Tahir LBW for an excellent 58 off 51 balls!  We ended the day on 385 for 7 with Ian unbeaten on 104 (100 off 168 balls 9 fours and 1 six) keeping up the move to 400 with Alfonso Thomas

Day 4

 400 first, then smack it about Ian and then declare, get them in and try and bowl them out.  12 points for certain but more if possible.

Somerset went past 400 quickly before Mr Blackwell went for an excellent and important 129 at 423.  However, Thomas was seeing the ball well and he took the score on to 436 with Caddick (who managed 1 in the partnership) before he went for really good 43.  Charl came in and went to Dimitri first ball and we were done for 436.  Now could we get among them well before they passed our total?

West Country hopes must have soared when Trego bowled Adams with only 26 up - but that was it well into the afternoon as Carberry and Lumb pitched anchor and took the score past 100 at less than three an over.

That's the way it stayed up until the declaration by the home side for 196 and the end of the game.  But...12 points and we are Championship leaders going around the third bend with the finish in sight.  5 ahead of Notts - Trent Bridge is going to be a HUGE game!!

 

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Hants at the Rose Bowl
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:18:09:55:17

I suspect we will find the Rose Bowl wicket for the cc match against Hampshire this week somewhat out of its ordinary `low and slow` nature.

Pakistan leg-spinner Imran Tahir looked decidedly ineffectual on Taunton`s resuse of the `dead` Surrey championship wicket for yesterday`s Pro40 match, with figures of 0-47 at an economy rate of above 7 an over.

Yet he has taken 22 championship wickets in just three matches for Hampshire, and like all legspinners will obviously be looking for more bounce at the Rose Bowl tomorrow.

If the weather was `normal` August variety, I would be tempted to play Michael Munday, but with all this rain around feel this will not happen.

In other selections, Hampshire will probably bring back Michael Brown, Sean Ervine, James Tomlinson (not another 10 wickets please!) and Greg Lamb, compared with yesterday`s side. I notice, though, that John Crawley didn`t play yesterday or in the last championship match and wonder whether he is injured.

Re: Hants at the Rose Bowl
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:18:10:17:27

Yesterday was ludicrous. It as dark by 7, freezing cold with a really chilly breeze. Most peoplle were in fleeces and my mate even suggested popping home (round the corner) to get some gloves at about 4:30!!

If it's anything like that this week then a spinner is a waste of time except as a run saver I'm afraid because they'll get nothing off the pitch.

(Sm72)

Re: Hants at the Rose Bowl
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:18:10:32:34

Let's hope Jones is back in the CC side; he seems more effective than Phillips with both ball and bat and his endless energy lifts the rest of the side.

LoL

Sixty Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Hants at the Rose Bowl
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:18:10:41:59

I'm not sure Ben is well. He seems to be bowling well within himself and fielding in non pressure positions. Jonah was really producing some pace yesterday but he can be costly, though there's no quesation that he gives everything every time he plays.

And he can bat. It isn't luck that gets him scores, he'll straight drive the best if they give him the ball to do it to.

We need that aggression if we aren't going to use Peter as an allrounder.

(Sm72)

Re: Hants at the Rose Bowl
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:18:13:30:15

"Let's hope Jones is back in the CC side; he seems more effective than Phillips with both ball and bat and his endless energy lifts the rest of the side."

Hear, hear, LoL! In view of the clean bill of health that AH gave everyone before the Surrey game, Jonah's non-selection was baffling in the extreme (to me at least.)

Conversely, I feel that Jonah has been a little too expensive in recent one-day games, though, and wonder whether we ought not to rest him for the remaining CC fixtures (a la Caddy)?

As for the Rose Bowl pitch, I don't think it's really a big turner, usually. I think bounce will be difficult for their groundsman to provide, given the November weather. Having said that, a lack of bounce can be very useful for flipper/slider type balls and even the googly for that matter. Let's hope Imran is of the type that mainly only has his stock wrist-spinner, as that would probably be somewhat negated by a lack of bounce.

Re: Hants at the Rose Bowl
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:18:13:39:56

Giles White, who played briefly for Somerset in the early 1990s and is yet another product of Millfield School, will be in charge of Hampshire for their cc match against us. He takes over from Paul Terry, who announced his resignation as director of cricket last week.

White, who moved to Hampshire in 1994, has been Terry`s No.2.

Re: Hants at the Rose Bowl
Posted by: Palairet (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:18:14:17:12

One 'Old Millfieldian' succeeding another, then!

Re: Hants at the Rose Bowl
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:18:18:15:23

Feel free to take some of our weather. Plus 34C & sweltering.

Too much of a good thing !

Grizzzly

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:10:17:29

Well it's raining in Southampton it seems.

(Sm72)

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:10:19:11

[www.metoffice.gov.uk]

Met Office forecast for today is poor (above).

Tomorrow is not too bad. Thursday and Friday are fine.

The Thursday forecast is in direct contradiction to the BBC one, which threatens 'persistent rain on the south coast.'

Everyone seems to agree that, like last week, Friday will definitely be fine.

Realistically, I think our best chance of a 'good,' outcome is another maximum points draw.

That would put us nine points ahead of Notts from equal games played, with the game at Trent Bridge up next.. In other words, win at Trent Bridge and Notts hopes would be all but ended..

Of course, Durham remain a threat. They're at Sussex this week, where they have an execrable record.

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:10:20:02

However, the actual met office rainfall radar for the UK suggests that there shouldn't be too much wet stuff around Southampton, right at the minute.

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: Kingston Black (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:10:20:29

I'm at work about 6 miles away from the Rose Bowl and although it was drizzling, it's now brightened up somewhat. Would expect them to be able to at least make a start soon.

KB

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:10:26:37

The weather report was pretty hopeful KB ezpecially this afternoon. Can only get the prayer mat out I suppose!

(Sm72)

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: bloke (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:10:49:14

Looking for a webcam in Soton led me here, to Leeds. Still, it's quite interesting.

http://160.9.137.11/mjpg/video.mjpg

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: Kingston Black (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:11:00:23

Still no more rain, but lots of glowering cloud, interspersed by the odd short burst of sunshine. Keep your fingers crossed for 1230.

KB

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:11:54:16

Play will begin at 1:30pm following an early lunch, as per the Beeb.

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:12:22:05

Langer having a fitness test on a pulled back and Munday in the frame because they seem worried about the wicket and Tahir's perfromances on it. Hmmm

The site is making a big thing of us being able to go past the leaders if we gain FOUR points in this game because this is our game in hand. I hope we're expecting a hell of a lot more than FOUR points from this one!!

(Sm72)



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Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:12:36:34

CricInfo has Durston in for Langer with Caddy in charge.

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:12:37:22

Hants won toss and will bat.

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: Coy (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:12:37:44

Trescothick, Suppiah, de Bruyn, Hildreth, Durston, Blackwell, Kieswetter, Trego, Thomas, Caddick, Willoughby

this is the full team

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:12:42:24

We lost the toss yet again, but this time Hants chose to bat.

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:12:43:06

No Langer?

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:12:49:03

I'm really confused.

Is the up-shot that Wes AND Arul have replaced Langer and Phillips?

I wonder if that's a case of them picking both of Wes and Arul to try to replace JL's batting?

I hope Arul has not been picked primarily as a second spinner, because that would be a really grave reflection on things a propos Michael Munday, plus I do not believe that Arul is penetrative enough with the ball to take many wickets on anything other than a bunsen burner. And hopefully, given that they won the toss, it isn't that.

Very pleased that Wes has been given a chance.

Not sure who will open though, Arul with Marcus? That means Neil Edwards passed over. Again, the consideration is, presumably, Arul as a slow bowling option in that particular head-to-head for selection?

All very interesting indeed.

We're going to get a little taste of life without Langer, both as captain and as a batsman...

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:12:49:08

Quote:
Frome Exile
CricInfo has Durston in for Langer with Caddy in charge.

On second thoughts, a more sensible interpretation would be Suppiah for Langer and Durston for Phillips. But I'm still a little surprised that Edwards didn't come in for the Chief.

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:12:51:35

And if Caddy's leading again, I wonder if that does suggest that Banger is not interested in the job of leading SCCC?

Given that Caddy can hardly be a long-term replacement for JL, that would leave the question of the succession completely open...

Are there any in-house candidates?

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:12:55:03

I believe Andy is the Club's official Vice-Captain, AG.

I also believe it's fairly common practice for players to eschew captaincy responsibilities during their benefit year, so MT's non-leadership may be indicative of nothing more than temporary unavailability.



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Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: tufnell parka (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:12:56:32

why is langer not playing? this is our biggest cc game of the season

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: BristolRob (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:12:57:19

Back problem

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: tufnell parka (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:13:00:59

thanks

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: Tractor (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:13:12:42

... and no Jonesy again!

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:13:14:37

Their leading run-scorer (and only centurion bar Pietersen and Pothas) is missing for them, so that perhaps cancels out Langer's absence to some extent.
With only Pothas of this XI averaging higher than 33, it could be a good time to play them.

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:13:17:17

Who is missing for them, FE?

If this is a bunsen burner, then we need to only bat once..

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:13:26:40

crikey, starting to look as though these two are going to bat all day...

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:13:54:43

BOBO strikes. That will surprise BJ.

Is there any commentary anywhere? I've had a trawl of BBC Sport and can't find anything.

LoL

Sixty Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: averageside (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:13:56:29

Strange that Trescothick is not captaining.. Doesnt make him a potential captain if hes still playing when Langer leaves.

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:14:01:24

Quote:
AGod
Who is missing for them, FE?

Michael Brown, who has 800 runs at 40 from 23 first-class knocks this season.

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:14:02:56

Another very parsimonious beginning from Alfonso. He seems to be making a habit of starting like this. Good to see.

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:14:03:37

Caddick is the SCCC official VC. So no surprise.

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:14:04:51

Didn't I mention that an hour ago? winking smiley

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:14:14:17

Need to dispose of Lumb quickly, since he is hurrying along. The openers staying in was not too bad because they were going really slowly, but Lumb needs to go.

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:14:25:21

Need to start taking wickets for bonus point reasons even if they are not yet getting away from us.

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:14:32:17

Well, JL has been making only scant use of Pete in recent weeks, yet Mr Caddick seems very keen on bowling him. And, one imagines, Pete is enjoying himself…

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:14:37:56

Trego needs only one more wicket for his first bonus point of the match.

LoL

Sixty Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:14:40:38

Anyone still rueing the decision to rest Peter on Sunday?

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:14:41:09

You did indeed mention that Caddie was VC a while ago, FE. However, you were ignored. I'll acknowledge your copyright, though!

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:14:45:17

Pleased, surprised and relieved that - so far - Mr Caddick has not seen fit to take on a disproportionate amount of the bowling.

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:14:46:52

Enter, the great IDB..

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: Nailsea_Fizz (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:14:49:13

Lumb is bound to get a fifty

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:14:50:56

Incidentally, Mr Rose said the other day that Pete;

"Needs to take more wickets to realise his England ambitions."

Well, Pete has now got 22 wickets at less than 22 for the season. And no, he does not have a bad strike rate. Rather, he just hasn't bowled that much. A mis-judgement to a certain extent?

I think so.

Certainly, he usually carries more menace than Ben Phillips, who is, largely, a containing type bowler.

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:14:54:36

Quote:
Nailsea_Fizz
Lumb is bound to get a fifty

What makes you say that? He's only got 4 in 21 innings this season.

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:15:00:58

I think I can guess why he said it, FE.

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:15:01:36

Perhaps we should just put Alfonso in tandem with Ian and strangle the life out of this innings?

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:15:27:52

77 off 37 overs, 15 of which have been maidens.

Must be riveting to watch !!

Grizzzly

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:15:28:00

Why was tea taken in the middle of an over? Is it raining again?

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:15:44:36

It wasn't according to the Beeb. Suspect Cricinfo got it wrong.

p.s. Is it just me or is anybody else beginning to suspect that this pitch is a total and utter dirge?

Just hope we show the necessary patience on it, when we bat...

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: Nailsea_Fizz (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:15:52:43

Go Charl

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:15:53:09

Benham b Willoughby 15.

The end of a long occupation of the crease.

I wonder if Willow is operating in Whitgift mode? That is bowling spin? (just thinking about the comments earlier about how we were worried about the pitch and its bunsen burner potential.)

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:16:00:54

Pothas c Thomas b Willoughby 0.

Whatever he's bowling, it's working...

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:16:02:04

Great performance by all today, with two to Trego and two to Willoughby, though that Blackwell is leaking more than one run per over.

LoL

Sixty Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: Frome Exile (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:16:03:48

Top stuff this; their only batter with any form gone for nought. Keep it up, lads.

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: Kingston Black (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:16:05:50

Sorry to report that it's now pouring down just a few miles from the Rose Bowl. Could well be the end of it today I'm afraid.

KB

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:16:05:54

night-watchman in now???

Is the light threatening, I wonder?

Must aim to wrap them up for no more than 180 now, with a view to batting once and then trying to force a victory on the final day. (I'm anticipating some more time will be lost to rain during the match.)

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:16:13:30

Nailsea - your earlier reverse hex is about to fail.

Hang you head.... etc etc

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:16:25:41

rain, I assume?

Re: Hunting Hampshire again
Posted by: Kingston Black (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:08:19:16:40:08

I think so, judging by the downpour that happened where I am. However, it only lasted 10 minutes and has now stopped. Considerably brighter now as well. We might get a bit more tonight but I would imagine that the outfield is pretty wet.

KB

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