Doubtful
Northants or Glory
Doubtful
By Grockle
July 27 2010
The T20 Quarter Final. We've done all the hard work but now have to face Northants without the bowling expertise of Kieron Pollard (who has played himself into form for Trinidad and Tobago) and possibly Ben Phillips who has a niggling groin strain. Arul Suppiah bowled himself into contention in the Championship and one day games last week but Mark Turner may be preferred.
Doubtful
July 27 2010
The T20 Quarter Final. We've done all the hard work but now have to face Northants without the bowling expertise of Kieron Pollard (who has played himself into form for Trinidad and Tobago) and possibly Ben Phillips who has a niggling groin strain. Arul Suppiah bowled himself into contention in the Championship and one day games last week but Mark Turner may be preferred.
v Northamptonshire T20 QF @ Taunton Tuesday 27 July 2010
Commentary (BBC SportsExtra also running this on DAB)
A quarter final without a bowl out is what we'd like to have this afternoon! The sky is grey but it is dry and has been all day. We've lost the toss and Northants have decided to bat first.
The side is quoted as;
Trescothick, Kieswetter, Trego, Hildreth, Buttler, de Bruyn, Suppiah, Phillips, Kartik, Thomas and Turner
There is no Willoughby in the list and there seems to be no chance of him being there. That suggests that the side will be as quoted.
And it is....Ben is in and so is Mark. Alfonso opens and a straight one to White is ball number one. A more forceful shot for number 2 sees the ball going out to the electronic scoreboard. For some reason with de Bruyn picking the ball up, White goes for a third and the ball flies in to where Charminda Vaas isn't. Run out without scoring. What a daft decision and what a start 2 for 1.
It doesn't get any better for the visitors as Ben takes the honours at the River with 6 on the board. The fifth of his over is punched by Wakely straight into the midriff of Turner who is so suprised he fumbles it. Unfortunately White seems to have assumed that he would catch it and hasn't moved. Wakely arrives at the non strikers and White hasn't moved - the second run out in the second over and Northants are 11 for 2 with Sales and White at the crease.
Thomas takes the third and goes for 3 as the Steelbacks look to get this innings back on some kind of track. Phillips continues at the River in a change from the norm (Mark usually takes the third - but he did seem to hurt his hand during the catch).
Nope - after a remarkable attempt to stop a four which finds him entangled in boards and boundary rope he gets up scrubs himself down and bowls the fifth FOR ONE - 21 for 2 and an excellent over. He's fired up for this one.
Ben continues at the River but the opinion is that White is so shook up by the first two overs that his concentration is in tatters. Mark takes the 7th and Sales tries to drive one too close to him and sends it straight to Kartik 32 for 3 in front of 7.5 thousand people. This is good stuff and it gets better as a leg glance from new man Peters is saved in stupendous style by our keeper and a certain four becomes a scrambled 1. At the end of the 7th it is 38 for 3 and Kartik is on for the 8th beating White with ball one and nearly having him caught at slip from ball two. He hits the next for four but is bamboozled by the next and bowled to end a wonderful day for him! 42 for 4.
I doubt Chigumbura expected to be in halfway through the 8th with less than 50 on the board. He's nearly stumped off his first ball but the decision is "Not Out". The spin over is so good that Arul is brought on for the 9th and he starts in glorious fashion having Chiggy stumped!! 43 for 5 and three off an excellent first over. Hall arrives to make something happen in a disaster of an innings.
Nothing happens in the 10th as Kartik has a bit of a play and bowls a maiden. 46 for 5. Arul ties up the other end and goes for a measly and unlucky 4 off the 11th (one play and miss goes for 2) 50 up at 11 and MK is causing all sorts of problems for both Northants men at the other end. 53 after 12. 59 after 13 another good one from Arul.
Kartik ends his spell with figures of 15 for 1 brilliant. Arul finishes his spell at the OP in the 15th - starting at 65 for 5 and ending at 68 with figures of 14 for 1! Talk about closing down the middle.
Trigger takes the 16th and the score lurches to 75 - no-one looks in command in this batting line-up. Ben takes the 17th. Going at a run a ball is not enough for the Steelbacks who are well below a par score on this but by the end of the big man's 6 ball spell the score has only staggered one run past 80 and a three figure score does not look particularly on. Alf is on at the River with 18 to go and another idiotic decision to run a second on the arm of Hildreth. Hall didn't think there was a second and by the time he started there wasn't 82 for 6. in comes 'son of' Willey.
Tractor is here IN A BLAZER I hear. On this present bowling performance he will not be allowed to miss any more T20 final games! With 12 balls to go the opposition are still 15 from three figures. The outfielding has been outstanding even given Northamptonshire's suicidal running. Trego takes the penultimate set and gives them the first six of the innings as Turner jumps to stop a certain six and lands on the Rubicon dancing platform by the Caddyshack. Mark is carried off - smashed his hand and now he's bouncing off fixtures. Trigger goes for 18 off the whole over and Northants break the psychological three figure barrier with 103.
Alfonso finishes at the River with a series of Yorkers that the Northants men do really well to squirt out here and there and they finish on 112 for 6. Brilliant performance from the home side.
NOW they need to put this to bed emphatically!!
Many apologies for the lateness of this report on our reply. With EIGHT possible connection points within the ground I couldn’t get a wi-fi signal on any of them!! Marcus starts the reply with Craig – not my choice but I wouldn’t have picked Mark Turner so my predictions for this game are rubbish anyway. Northants start with spin from Middlebrook and unusually, Craig takes the first ball. He treats him with respect and takes a single off the second which gives the chance for the Boss to stamp his name and he is off the mark with a boundary from the first ball faced. However the ball does seem to be difficult to get away and it is only 5 after the first. Vaas is no surprise for the second at the River and the respect given to him ends when Marcus sticks a one bounce four over his head to the Botham off his fourth. 11 runs after two and a change at the OP with Brooks replacing Middlebrook. He immediately gets the skipper playing a loose ball and he goes for 9 with no increase to the score – just puts it up in the air. Out comes Peter Trego. He plays Vaas carefully and we have 12 after 3. Brooks remains on but turns his red headband around to dayglo yellow for the fourth and goes for one boundary . It is scarily 21 for 1 after 5 – the same score as the visitors though they had lost 2 but things change a little when Elton Chigumbura comes on for the 6th. Craig takes him for boundaries off his first two and we have 32 by the end of it. Circumspect one would call the batting, the odd loose one goes but we are not taking any particular chances. Nevertheless Craig can’t always be kept in check and he brings up the 50 at the end of the 8th as he sixes Elton into the CA/Longroom steps. It doesn’t last though as he hits Middlebrook low in the 9th and is well caught by Peters. Decent innings. No heroics but enough to get us moving. The next man in is James Hildreth. His arrival seems to make Pete decide to get on with it and he sixes Middlesbrook to the OP before doing the same to Willey brought on for the 10th (this one into the Somerset Stand). We have 76 after 10 and way less than a run a ball needed to go to the Rosebowl. Trigger is not yet finished though and he smashes Middlebrook for a massive six into the car park behind Cow Corner in his next over which ends with 87 to Somerset needing 26 off 9 overs. The skipper brings himself on for the 12th from the River but starts with a wide. The rest of his over is better though and he keeps us honest at 90. Peter tries to keep it going against Middlebrook but doesn’t get the legs on this one and is caught by Elton coming in off the boundary for 30 off 23 balls. Zander is in to provide sense and stability for the end of this one…..hopefully. 90 for 3. Middlesbrook keeps to his job finishing with 30 for 2 and keeps us down to 93 at the start of the 14th. Hall stays on at the River and James does exactly what he needs to taking two off his first and two off his second, (below 20 needed). Hall keeps us below 100 at the end of the 14th and Brooks comes on in red headband for the 15th and ZdB angles the bat to take a single for the 100. This forces Brooks to change his headband to yellow for the last two balls of his fourth over. 101 for 3 after 15. Brooks ends with 1 maiden and 1 wicket for 11. The Northants skipper takes responsibility for the 16th and produces another frugal over but we only need 10 as Vaas returns for over number 17, his first from the OP. Zander gets 2 off his first and singles him from the second. This is repeated by James before ZdB over the top for four and leaves us 2 for the win on ‘Nelson’. Zander pierces the field for the boundary that takes us to the final and finishes a really comprehensive 115 for 3 victory with 3 overs to spare. Zander with 15 and Hildreth on 25. Truly truly awesome. No problem at all and extremely comprehensive. Northants were really not I this from the fifth ball of the second over. Hampshire, Notts and ……. Will be ready to take us on. We’ll be ready for any one of them!!
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Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 25/07/2010 22:43
Northamptonshire have confirmed that long-term injury sufferers, former skipper Nicky Bojé and Ireland international wicket-keeper Niall O`Brien, will not be available for Tuesday`s T20 quarter-final at Taunton.
Chaminda Vaas, recruited as a second overseas player for the tournament, has remained in England and will play.
The squad of 13 is made up of the players who beat Durham to qualify in fourth place in the Northern section, plus batsmen James Howgego and Vishal Tripethi.
Chaminda Vaas, recruited as a second overseas player for the tournament, has remained in England and will play.
The squad of 13 is made up of the players who beat Durham to qualify in fourth place in the Northern section, plus batsmen James Howgego and Vishal Tripethi.
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: Scrumper (IP Logged)
Date: 25/07/2010 23:14
Quote:Pardon?cricketjerry-mouse
Howgego and Tripethi.
Formally fRed
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 26/07/2010 07:52
They are team mates of Warnakulasuriya Patabendige Ushantha
Joseph Chaminda Vaas.
You need a big shirt to print all that on the back.
Joseph Chaminda Vaas.
You need a big shirt to print all that on the back.
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 26/07/2010 07:54
Northampton will have no problem with registration because Chaminda Vaas has already played for them.
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 26/07/2010 08:20
dont think its got to do with him playing for them before Mike. They only have 2 registered and so do we. Our problem is that we tried to register a third which caused problems with the other two especially with the 10 day rule.
we are where we are so a display like yesterday wouldn't go amiss. We will need to be on our game.
we are where we are so a display like yesterday wouldn't go amiss. We will need to be on our game.
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 26/07/2010 08:31
Ronnie I am just showing my ignorance on how many OS players Northampton had on their books.
I still don’t know if any other county were in the same position as us with more than two.
I still don’t know if any other county were in the same position as us with more than two.
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 26/07/2010 08:55
I think that we have been the only ones to interpret the rules differently Mike. Middlesex and Sussex have had more than two but Gilchrist and McCullum were only around for short periods and that apperas to have got them round the 2 players issue. In fact Sussex have had 4 registered this season (Smith, McCullum, Neaed and Arafat) so God knows how they mangaged it. Maybe we should employ their adminstrator?
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 26/07/2010 09:06
I don’t know about interrupting the rules differently, I understood then when I read them if I could anybody could.
All anybody had to do is read them!
All anybody had to do is read them!
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 26/07/2010 09:20
very true Mike very true....all the more galling I would suspect.
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 26/07/2010 14:46
Lancashire coach Peter Moores is still moaning about last year`s T20 bowl-out quarter-final defeat by Somerset at Old Trafford.
In his preview of tonight`s quarter-final at Chelmsford, he says: `We didn`t feel like we had the chance to win or lose because we didn`t play a game.`
Should have picked bowlers, rather than batsmen, for you five shots at the unguarded wicket then, Peter. On second thoughts, looking at the Lancashire attack.........
In his preview of tonight`s quarter-final at Chelmsford, he says: `We didn`t feel like we had the chance to win or lose because we didn`t play a game.`
Should have picked bowlers, rather than batsmen, for you five shots at the unguarded wicket then, Peter. On second thoughts, looking at the Lancashire attack.........
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: comebackgatt (IP Logged)
Date: 26/07/2010 14:54
good luck to you in this match, my nephew (Steelbacker) is a big Northants fan but is not confident at all.
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 26/07/2010 15:40
Well I'm all broken up for Mr Moores! You play the 'game' you get given and they lost the only 'game' in town - and not particularly well either.
It will depend entirely on which Somerset unit turns up Gatt.
If we get our "T20" unit even without Pollard we should be in with a very good chance. But that unit doesn't always get here - sometimes it is replaced by the "headless chicken" unit and then we'll struggle to beat Northants even if they send their grannies to play us.
It will depend entirely on which Somerset unit turns up Gatt.
If we get our "T20" unit even without Pollard we should be in with a very good chance. But that unit doesn't always get here - sometimes it is replaced by the "headless chicken" unit and then we'll struggle to beat Northants even if they send their grannies to play us.
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 26/07/2010 15:55
My dearest wish would be anybody but poor young Turner. Sooner or later he won't be collared for 2 or 3 fours an over but every ball UNLESS Alfonso can finally get through to him WHERE TO PITCH it - right up in the block hole yorker length, and NOT nice and short for cutting and hooking. PLEASE COACH tell him.
OLDBOYBA!
OLDBOYBA!
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 26/07/2010 16:13
I suspect that he has been told repeatedly, but is unable to follow instructions for whatever reason.
But he still gets picked. Perhaps a rather lucky young man.
As ever, if he plays in the forthcoming match I hope he stuffs our words down our throats!
But he still gets picked. Perhaps a rather lucky young man.
As ever, if he plays in the forthcoming match I hope he stuffs our words down our throats!
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 26/07/2010 16:15
My dearest wish is to NOT put Northants into bat (unless, of course, the track starts damp.)
Bat first and we will win, IMO.
Bat second and that headless chicken unit that Grockle refers to might rear its discombobulated head. Having said that, we'll probably still win if we bat second but there's more of a risk, IMO, of losing.
As for Lancs, they'd do better to worry about Ravi Bopara & co.
Bat first and we will win, IMO.
Bat second and that headless chicken unit that Grockle refers to might rear its discombobulated head. Having said that, we'll probably still win if we bat second but there's more of a risk, IMO, of losing.
As for Lancs, they'd do better to worry about Ravi Bopara & co.
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 26/07/2010 16:21
Arul certainly did enough in the Kent game and the Surrey one dayer to justify his place as a bowler if not as an opener.
Trescothick
Trego
Hildreth
Kieswetter
de Buryn
Buttler
Suppiah
Thomas
Phillips
Kartik
Willoughby
Would suit me
If Willoughby isn't gonna be there then I'd add another spinner - Max Waller. Marcus would probably add Nick Compton and bat first if possible
If Phillips AND Willoughby are unavailable then AND ONLY then would Marcus have to consider Mark.
Willoughby/Thomas/Phillips/de Bruyn and Trego should be able to deal with 20 overs
And if one of them gets tap or variation is needed then Arul and Kartik can offer something else. Max can replace any one of them if necessary.
Trescothick
Trego
Hildreth
Kieswetter
de Buryn
Buttler
Suppiah
Thomas
Phillips
Kartik
Willoughby
Would suit me
If Willoughby isn't gonna be there then I'd add another spinner - Max Waller. Marcus would probably add Nick Compton and bat first if possible
If Phillips AND Willoughby are unavailable then AND ONLY then would Marcus have to consider Mark.
Willoughby/Thomas/Phillips/de Bruyn and Trego should be able to deal with 20 overs
And if one of them gets tap or variation is needed then Arul and Kartik can offer something else. Max can replace any one of them if necessary.
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: Botham (IP Logged)
Date: 26/07/2010 16:49
Mr Moores could be unhappy again, if he turns up at Chelmsford tonight, as the game is tomorrow!
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 26/07/2010 18:52
Marcus loves Turner, sure he'll be on the team sheet, that's only difference i'd expect to thteam listed above...
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: Ww (IP Logged)
Date: 26/07/2010 21:16
What happened to Cam White? Last i heard he was returning for the quarters?
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 26/07/2010 21:18
Yep, they've shown unswerving faith in him. The Pollard Middx game is, I think, the only one that Turner got dropped for.
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 26/07/2010 21:26
Long story WW. It's all in the 'Old Boys' thread. Needless to say it may be quite a while before we see Mr White in Somerset colours again :-)
Sorry I got ahead of myself. The threadss haven't been merged yet so Cam's thread is still on its own.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010:07:26:21:28:17 by Grockle.
Sorry I got ahead of myself. The threadss haven't been merged yet so Cam's thread is still on its own.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010:07:26:21:28:17 by Grockle.
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
Date: 26/07/2010 21:48
"Northants missing two internationals" is the title of this thread.
But Somerset are missing one aren't they?
I have a feeling that the administrative cock - up over Cameron White will cost us dear tomorrow. I really hope that I am wrong, and in this format of the game I accept that anything can happen, but I fear that tomorrow will see the end of our interest in this year's competition.
As I said before, I shall be happy to be proved wrong.
But Somerset are missing one aren't they?
I have a feeling that the administrative cock - up over Cameron White will cost us dear tomorrow. I really hope that I am wrong, and in this format of the game I accept that anything can happen, but I fear that tomorrow will see the end of our interest in this year's competition.
As I said before, I shall be happy to be proved wrong.
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 26/07/2010 22:07
Cameron would not have bowled it seems so he would only be a batsman. Kieron Pollard is much more of a loss as a bowler, One can only hope that Charl plays and bowls as he can - three wickets from him would be very welcome.
We can bat without CW. The production of runs by Marcus is far more important and whether the rest of the lineup arrive to be counted or panic from over 6 onwards.
It's time for Rosey's demand for the "killer instinct" to be fulfilled or you are right we'll end the campaign here as we usually do.
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We can bat without CW. The production of runs by Marcus is far more important and whether the rest of the lineup arrive to be counted or panic from over 6 onwards.
It's time for Rosey's demand for the "killer instinct" to be fulfilled or you are right we'll end the campaign here as we usually do.
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Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 08:25
it may come down to which overseas players perform best. As we only have one then we are at a disadvantage from the start....hence my ramblings about getting CW in there.
I agree with CP it may all end today.
Having said that we played so well on Sunday, and we have Tres, Trego, Kieswetter (when he is playing well), Buttler, Hildreth etc so lets get into them.
I agree with CP it may all end today.
Having said that we played so well on Sunday, and we have Tres, Trego, Kieswetter (when he is playing well), Buttler, Hildreth etc so lets get into them.
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: Slow Left Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 08:28
I think Tresco counts as as good if not better than an overseas player!
KP or no KP we are still favourites for this, and I'd also dispute whether we usually go out at this stage? I thought traditionally we either left in the group, or made the final...
KP or no KP we are still favourites for this, and I'd also dispute whether we usually go out at this stage? I thought traditionally we either left in the group, or made the final...
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 08:41
I do hope we win today, if every playing plays to their full potential we will win easily.
If we don’t win the subject of CW’s registration fiasco will come to the fore again and quite rightly so.
Where is BJ when we need him?
Think positive.
The weather at the moment is showery.
If we don’t win the subject of CW’s registration fiasco will come to the fore again and quite rightly so.
Where is BJ when we need him?
Think positive.
The weather at the moment is showery.
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 08:43
what is the forecast Mike........Has it to clear up or get worse?
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 08:52
After the recent shower the now light grey cloud is high.
My seaweed says it could brighten later today, lets hope so.
I am not sure but I have a feeling that at this stage the quarter-final there are two days available, let’s hope we don’t need them.
My seaweed says it could brighten later today, lets hope so.
I am not sure but I have a feeling that at this stage the quarter-final there are two days available, let’s hope we don’t need them.
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 09:06
yeah there is a reserve day tomorrow.........forecast is good tomorrow. If it is at all dodgy what do they do, play 20 overs one day and 20 the next....that would be a shambles!!
Need to get it done and dusted in one day if you ask me, although the paying public should the foremost in mind. If its at all okay today they will probably go for it.
Need to get it done and dusted in one day if you ask me, although the paying public should the foremost in mind. If its at all okay today they will probably go for it.
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: Slow Left Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 09:31
I think it's completely called off and started again...
even if we score 300, and Northants are 30-7 after 5.
even if we score 300, and Northants are 30-7 after 5.
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 09:49
Not correct SLC.
The Rules.
16.4 Delayed or interrupted matches – Group Stage
and Quarter-Final Matches.
16.4.1 Any revision of the number of overs that may be
necessary due to a delayed start or one or more
interruptions in play as a result of adverse ground,
weather or light conditions or any other reason, shall take
no account of the potential existence of the reserve day.
To constitute a match, a minimum of 5 overs has to be
bowled to the side batting second, subject to the innings
not being completed earlier. Where a reserve day exists,
if it is not possible to constitute the match on the first
scheduled day then it shall be continued on the reserve
day. For the avoidance of doubt any previously effected
reduction in the length of the innings in progress (and any
applicable Duckworth Lewis target) will still apply at the
start of the reserve day.
[static.ecb.co.uk]
The Rules.
16.4 Delayed or interrupted matches – Group Stage
and Quarter-Final Matches.
16.4.1 Any revision of the number of overs that may be
necessary due to a delayed start or one or more
interruptions in play as a result of adverse ground,
weather or light conditions or any other reason, shall take
no account of the potential existence of the reserve day.
To constitute a match, a minimum of 5 overs has to be
bowled to the side batting second, subject to the innings
not being completed earlier. Where a reserve day exists,
if it is not possible to constitute the match on the first
scheduled day then it shall be continued on the reserve
day. For the avoidance of doubt any previously effected
reduction in the length of the innings in progress (and any
applicable Duckworth Lewis target) will still apply at the
start of the reserve day.
[static.ecb.co.uk]
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 10:10
You are becoming a bit of a stats guru Mike ![[:wor kid:]](/phorum-5.1.15/mods/smileys/images/13.gif "[:wor kid:]")
(note smiley for light hearted humour) FE is still about the place you know.
(note smiley for light hearted humour) FE is still about the place you know.Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: barndoorio (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 10:10
Grockle, you say we usually bow out at this stage. As previous winner and runner up in the short history of the tournament that seems a bit unfair on the team. Indeed they've never gone out in the q/f or semi finals as far as I can tell.
Warwickshire have been knocked out at the q/f stage 6 times overall, and the last 4 years in a row.
Warwickshire have been knocked out at the q/f stage 6 times overall, and the last 4 years in a row.
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 10:19
No need to use a 
Grockle I know your humour by now even though some others do not.
Grockle I know your humour by now even though some others do not.Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 10:30
hope he plays..gives the team a better balance.
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 10:34
Svetlana thanks you for your message of 11.27, Tractor.
LoL
Sixty-three Seasons a Somerset Supporter
LoL
Sixty-three Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: Blub (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 13:42
It was just 5 years ago that we beat Northants in the QF on the way to winning the trophy at The Oval. Tracking back to remind myself of the scorecard I was surprised to see that only 2 players from that game will line up for us today.
And one of them was playing for the opposition!
And one of them was playing for the opposition!
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: hantssabre (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 13:56
Presumably Ben Phillips?
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 13:57
Without looking it up, could I have a guess at Hildreth for us and Phillips for them?
LoL
Sixty-three Seasons a Somerset Supporter
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Sixty-three Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 14:08
I'm sure you're right, LoL.
I was there, and although I don't recall what JH did with the bat I do recall him bowling a full allocation of overs, and fielding very well.
I was there, and although I don't recall what JH did with the bat I do recall him bowling a full allocation of overs, and fielding very well.
Re: Northants missing two internationals
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 14:11
Bobstan: I suspect you were there in your capacity as Graeme Smith.
LoL
Sixty-three Seasons a Somerset Supporter
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Big Day
Posted by: BVI Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 08:54
Whether or not you are a fan of the form of the game, today is a big day in our season. We need to keep momentum going in all forms of the game, not to mention the revenue derived from today's game and finals day (should we win today) and the continued media exposure of our excellent season and our players (it's apparent to me that, more so than in previous seasons, people are talking about our young(ish) English players - see CK, Trigger, Joss and Hildy).
I just wish I managed to find myself in Taunton this afternoon... alas no chance.
Come on the boys!
BVI Grockle
I just wish I managed to find myself in Taunton this afternoon... alas no chance.
Come on the boys!
BVI Grockle
Re: Big Day
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 09:16
The revenue from finals day is split between all 18 counties,
bvi, apart from the bar and catering takings which go to whichever county is acting as host - Hampshire on this occasion.
bvi, apart from the bar and catering takings which go to whichever county is acting as host - Hampshire on this occasion.
Re: Big Day
Posted by: BVI Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 09:38
Ok, so you focus on one element of my post which might be inaccurate, for which I apologise. I'm pretty sure that the additional prize money for qualifying isn't shared though?
BVI Grockle
BVI Grockle
Re: Big Day
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 09:56
To avoid any disagreement here is the prize money paid out.
6 Friends Provident t20
Players Prize County Performance
Money Payment
Winners..........................ÂŁ140,000 ...................ÂŁ60,000
Runners-up ......................ÂŁ50,000 ...................ÂŁ34,000
Losing Semi-finalists
(each) ...............................ÂŁ15,000 ...................ÂŁ12,000
Losing Quarter-finalists
(each) .................................ÂŁ5,000 ............................nil
Man of the Match –
Zonal Matches (per match)...ÂŁ250
Man of the Match
Quarter-finals (per match).....ÂŁ500
Man of the Match
Semi-finals (per match)......ÂŁ1,000
Man of the Match
Final ...................................ÂŁ2,000
[static.ecb.co.uk]
The first column is the players and the second is for the clubs.
6 Friends Provident t20
Players Prize County Performance
Money Payment
Winners..........................ÂŁ140,000 ...................ÂŁ60,000
Runners-up ......................ÂŁ50,000 ...................ÂŁ34,000
Losing Semi-finalists
(each) ...............................ÂŁ15,000 ...................ÂŁ12,000
Losing Quarter-finalists
(each) .................................ÂŁ5,000 ............................nil
Man of the Match –
Zonal Matches (per match)...ÂŁ250
Man of the Match
Quarter-finals (per match).....ÂŁ500
Man of the Match
Semi-finals (per match)......ÂŁ1,000
Man of the Match
Final ...................................ÂŁ2,000
[static.ecb.co.uk]
The first column is the players and the second is for the clubs.
Re: Big Day
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 10:08
'I B Cloudy' is threatening to become 'L Ike Rain' so dear Ducky and 'little Lew' could be winding up their calculators - what is Plan B? - a bowl out on the night?
OLDBOYBA!
OLDBOYBA!
Re: Big Day
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 10:11
Sorry wrong thread! My question's answered there.
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Re: Big Day
Posted by: barndoorio (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 10:19
Reserve day please!!! Then I can go tomorrow.
Re: Big Day
Posted by: rambling sid (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 11:16
I think as far as the revenue from today's game is concerned, the gate money is probably shared between the two counties, the hospitality income, catering bars etc will be Somerset's Assuming a full house, and I don't know how the ticket sales are going, this will be a big financial day for Somerset. Let's hope its a big day result's wise as well.
I haven't been a fan of this form of cricket up till now, but I've got a ticket for today and am starting to get excited. Hope the weather doesn't spoil it.
I haven't been a fan of this form of cricket up till now, but I've got a ticket for today and am starting to get excited. Hope the weather doesn't spoil it.
Re: Big Day
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 11:29
Hopefully the match day tickets revenue will all be ours. That surely the whole point of getting the honme QF.....as you have done better in the qualifying group? Wouldnt be right if a team scrapes into the QF and draws Surrey at the Oval in front of 20,000 people as against winning your group and only getting 8,000 as that is what your ground holds. Half of 20,000 is a hell of a lot more than half of 8,000.
If that is the rule then it stinks.
If that is the rule then it stinks.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 15:54
Vaas run out without facing going for an idiotic third off the second ball. Ho Hum!!!!
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 15:58
Turner drops Wakeley but White is ball watching and doesn't move so the Northants men find themselves both at the same end. Wakeley run out 11 for 2 after 11 balls.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 16:26
They are going down so quickly I can't keep up with the pace.
Sales goes to Kartik off the excellent Turner (never doubted him)
White is totally flumoxxed by Kartik and eventually bowled and then Arul has Chigumbura stumped off his first ball bowled and it's 45 for 5!!!!
Sales goes to Kartik off the excellent Turner (never doubted him)
White is totally flumoxxed by Kartik and eventually bowled and then Arul has Chigumbura stumped off his first ball bowled and it's 45 for 5!!!!
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 16:44
Trigger on as Murali and Arul go for 29 and take 2 wickets in their 8.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 17:08
113 to win. Can we really sphericals this one up? Well if we do then first of all we destroy thebest bowling and fielding performance of the campaign and secondly we dn't deserve to go to the finals...simple as that.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 17:24
If you were a Northants supporter 3 run-outs might seem to be 2 too many!
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 18:02
And 112 might seem about 111 too few !
Grizzzly
Grizzzly
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: BVI Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 18:18
Come on... final push over the line please!
BVI Grockle
BVI Grockle
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: BVI Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 18:26
YEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BVI Grockle
BVI Grockle
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 18:29
Another very professional and convincing win.
But I really didn't expect Northants to so poor!
On to the Rose Bowel then....
Well done lads.
But I really didn't expect Northants to so poor!
On to the Rose Bowel then....
Well done lads.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Grizzzly (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 18:35
Comprehensive !
Grizzzly
Grizzzly
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: edinburghbil (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 18:42
So easy, we could afford to give them our very own player according to the BBC
"Northants' performance was summed up as early as the second ball of the innings, as Chaminda Vaas was run out without facing a ball attempting a third.
Jos Buttler followed nine balls later as he was run out by Mark Turner, who had just dropped the same man at mid-off. "
How ever it was reported, another great win for the boys. Onwards and upwards!
"Northants' performance was summed up as early as the second ball of the innings, as Chaminda Vaas was run out without facing a ball attempting a third.
Jos Buttler followed nine balls later as he was run out by Mark Turner, who had just dropped the same man at mid-off. "
How ever it was reported, another great win for the boys. Onwards and upwards!
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 18:46
....and farewell to Brian Blessed and welcome back Andrew Hall!
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 18:52
Only saw our innings. Thought it was a ropey start with the bat - I thought the headless chicken might come out.
I'm fairly sure that the camera showed Marcus telling the guys, after he was out, that timing was difficult out there.
Did we bowl superlatively well or was it more a case of them panicking on a slow track?
I'm fairly sure that the camera showed Marcus telling the guys, after he was out, that timing was difficult out there.
Did we bowl superlatively well or was it more a case of them panicking on a slow track?
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: BVI Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 18:57
Spinners were sublime. Proper bowling... looping spinning deliveries taking the edges, leading edges, stumpings... superb.
And they soiled themselves under the pressure, which helped.
BVI Grockle
And they soiled themselves under the pressure, which helped.
BVI Grockle
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 18:58
I am delighted to admit that the forecast I made yesterday of the result, was well and truly wrong.
Looking at the bowling figures, I wondered if we were playing on an already used pitch.
No matter - a sterling and comprehensive victory.
Well played Somerset.
Looking at the bowling figures, I wondered if we were playing on an already used pitch.
No matter - a sterling and comprehensive victory.
Well played Somerset.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 19:00
A very good win outplaying Northampton in all departments.
No weak link today bowling/ fielding/ batting all good.
If they carry on playing like this we will win it.
No weak link today bowling/ fielding/ batting all good.
If they carry on playing like this we will win it.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 19:04
Great performance. Ref wicket - if my eyes didn't deceive me I think they used the Kent track - probably because it only had about 2 and a half days use.
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Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 19:08
I wondered if we were playing on an already used pitch.
With 9 t20 home matches I would think it may have used three times if not more, all the matches were played in the same area of the square.
With 9 t20 home matches I would think it may have used three times if not more, all the matches were played in the same area of the square.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 19:43
It did not look easy to bat out there, to me, and I only saw our innings, as opposed to the 112 for 6 innings.
Having watched us bat, I think that a first innings score of 150 would have won this game.
Having watched us bat, I think that a first innings score of 150 would have won this game.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 19:49
I sneaked off to a pub to watch the match, entirely in my own company but sometimes drowned by noise from the other part of the pub.
The result never looked in doubt to me, though had Mr Blessed bowled a little earlier it might have been a little bit tighter.
I'd like to give a special word of praise to Mark Turner. He conceded only eight runs in his two overs and took a wicket. Add his overs to that of the two spinners and ten overs conceded only 39 runs for three wickets. Although Turner missed a catch he should have caught, he recovered so quickly that he effected an excellent run out and thereafter fielded with enomous energy and effectiveness.
LoL
Sixty-three Seasons a Somerset Supporter
The result never looked in doubt to me, though had Mr Blessed bowled a little earlier it might have been a little bit tighter.
I'd like to give a special word of praise to Mark Turner. He conceded only eight runs in his two overs and took a wicket. Add his overs to that of the two spinners and ten overs conceded only 39 runs for three wickets. Although Turner missed a catch he should have caught, he recovered so quickly that he effected an excellent run out and thereafter fielded with enomous energy and effectiveness.
LoL
Sixty-three Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 19:57
Northants` two overseas players, part of a side which at least two posters here forecast would bring about an end to our interest in this year`s competition, faced three balls betwen them and scored one run.
When they bowled, they went for 50 runs (almost half the required total) in just five overs, and never looked like taking a wicket.
Our overseas player cleaned out their opener just as he was beginning to look dangerous, caught their most experienced batsman with a stunner at mid-wicket, and returned figures of 1-15 in his four overs. I don`t think he was required to bat, if memory serves.
I know which of these three I would rather have in my team.
When they bowled, they went for 50 runs (almost half the required total) in just five overs, and never looked like taking a wicket.
Our overseas player cleaned out their opener just as he was beginning to look dangerous, caught their most experienced batsman with a stunner at mid-wicket, and returned figures of 1-15 in his four overs. I don`t think he was required to bat, if memory serves.
I know which of these three I would rather have in my team.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Botham (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 20:20
A mystery guest of Richard Gould was .................?
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 20:25
Mystery guest - JL?
OLDBOYBA!
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Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 20:36
Frankly I did not believe there was a very high chance of losing to Northants and almost none if we batted first. But I was still a bit shocked that they were swiftly reduced to 51 for 5
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 20:42
A mystery guest, is this who you mean?
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 20:42
Richard's mystery guest was his dad Bobby! ;-0
...and JL was there too.
...and JL was there too.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 20:43
...glad we agree Mike!
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 20:50
Has JL come over to do some coaching, does anybody here know?
It's one hell of a long way to come just to watch a T20 game! I certainly would not fly all that way for a T20 game, I have to confess!
It's one hell of a long way to come just to watch a T20 game! I certainly would not fly all that way for a T20 game, I have to confess!
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 20:56
This will answer your question AG- [www.somersetcountycc.premiumtv.co.uk]
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 21:25
Quality performance start to end, only one team showed up.
A joy to watch our 2 spinners bowl 8 overs on the bounce.
Well done to Mark too, do hope he's ok after limping off falling over the dancers podium going for a catch, didnt look too good to me, any news?
1400 allocation for Rosebowl is a joke
A joy to watch our 2 spinners bowl 8 overs on the bounce.
Well done to Mark too, do hope he's ok after limping off falling over the dancers podium going for a catch, didnt look too good to me, any news?
1400 allocation for Rosebowl is a joke
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 21:29
Turner was sitting with the players in the dug-out while Somerset were batting, which suggests his injury was not too serious.
LoL
Sixty-three Seasons a Somerset Supporter
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Sixty-three Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 22:23
Notts in the semi-final on August 14. Matthew Wood against his old county.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 22:24
Essex v Hampshire
Somerset v Nottinghamshire
The latter deserves to be the final, but we can win it anyway.
LoL
Sixty-three Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Somerset v Nottinghamshire
The latter deserves to be the final, but we can win it anyway.
LoL
Sixty-three Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 22:41
The ECB will decide on the basis of whichever fans have to travel the furthest.
At first glance it will be those from Notts, so we are likely to be on second.
At first glance it will be those from Notts, so we are likely to be on second.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: wsm fan (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 23:00
second is good, chance to assess conditions and for all our fans to get into that joke of a ground and its transport links...
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Scrumper (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 23:04
Quote:Was this some kind of eyebrow contest?Mike BOS
A mystery guest, is this who you mean?
Formally fRed
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 27/07/2010 23:29
Mark Turner worked really hard tonight. Sometimes he went the exttra mile at the expense of his on safety before and after he bowled.
He's been in intensive sessions with Richard Ellison and it showed in his length. Excellent first over and very decent second though what the hell he was doing falling backward into the dancers podium when there was no chance of catching the six was beyond me.
Proud of him tonight. Still not sure but if they play him in the finals he earned his place this evening.
He's been in intensive sessions with Richard Ellison and it showed in his length. Excellent first over and very decent second though what the hell he was doing falling backward into the dancers podium when there was no chance of catching the six was beyond me.
Proud of him tonight. Still not sure but if they play him in the finals he earned his place this evening.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Botham (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 06:23
No, none of you has guessed the mystery guest. He said he would never go to T20 and looked extremely dapper in slacks and blazer.
I spoke to Bobby, before the game as he is one of many recent ex-Managers of Weymouth FC, a nice , pleasant young man, who told me of his friendship with JL, developed whilst Justyn lived near Richard.
Last night I cycled the last few miles to Taunton and this is also a good practice at the Rosebowl, for those sober enough so to do!
The stewards I encountered were all very helpful and polite and the evening was well organised.
Re the finals day, my experience and understanding is that the organisers don't want too larger blocks of any teams supporters sitting together, as after the semis some supporters leave and this could result in larger empty spaces. I'm sure Bath Bob would confirm this. Tickets may also be available from the Rosebowl, but unlikely now that Hants are playing.
I found an excellent place to park last Finals Day, with a pleasant 1/2 mile walk through the woods (in the dark afterwards - so bring torch!). This space will be free this time as I shall be recovering at home, from my hernia repair. I'll be happy to give directions by pm!
Edited to give details of Finals day.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010:07:28:06:38:30 by Botham.
I spoke to Bobby, before the game as he is one of many recent ex-Managers of Weymouth FC, a nice , pleasant young man, who told me of his friendship with JL, developed whilst Justyn lived near Richard.
Last night I cycled the last few miles to Taunton and this is also a good practice at the Rosebowl, for those sober enough so to do!
The stewards I encountered were all very helpful and polite and the evening was well organised.
Re the finals day, my experience and understanding is that the organisers don't want too larger blocks of any teams supporters sitting together, as after the semis some supporters leave and this could result in larger empty spaces. I'm sure Bath Bob would confirm this. Tickets may also be available from the Rosebowl, but unlikely now that Hants are playing.
I found an excellent place to park last Finals Day, with a pleasant 1/2 mile walk through the woods (in the dark afterwards - so bring torch!). This space will be free this time as I shall be recovering at home, from my hernia repair. I'll be happy to give directions by pm!
Edited to give details of Finals day.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010:07:28:06:38:30 by Botham.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 07:26
I know your mystery guest Both, he was invited by a top official.
Good luck to him it may have turned his head for next season.
Edited Typo.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010:07:28:07:50:00 by Mike BOS.
Good luck to him it may have turned his head for next season.
Edited Typo.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010:07:28:07:50:00 by Mike BOS.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 07:27
When Somerset were T20 champions at The Oval in 2005, Duncan Fletcher allowed Freddie Flintoff and Marcus Trescothick to play as it was between the First and Second Tests in the Ashes series and he said it would help them relax.
This time finals day is in an eight-day gap between the Second and Third Tests against Pakistan. I wonder if Andy Flower will allow Stuart Broad and Graeme Swann to play for Notts and Alastair Cook for Essex?
This time finals day is in an eight-day gap between the Second and Third Tests against Pakistan. I wonder if Andy Flower will allow Stuart Broad and Graeme Swann to play for Notts and Alastair Cook for Essex?
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 07:46
I agree that Mark Turner did very well - so much that he was 100% more effective than in some previous performances. If he can now do it consistently, that is all we can ask. Well done.
OLDBOYBA!
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Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 08:30
a great result for our boys. I like CJM's presumed pop at myself and CP...well done mate, hope you feel better now.
Northants were very very poor however, I thought taking nothing away from us who did all we were asked and am not complaining. Would have preferred Notts in the final but you've got to beat everyone to win something so heres hoping.
Rather beat them this week in the Champo though!!
Northants were very very poor however, I thought taking nothing away from us who did all we were asked and am not complaining. Would have preferred Notts in the final but you've got to beat everyone to win something so heres hoping.
Rather beat them this week in the Champo though!!
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 09:24
There can be nobody who does not know the identity of the mystery guest, the smartest man in town yesterday evening by all accounts. I have no doubt that the real man will be at his usual spot for the next four-day match, having discarded his mystery and his blazer.
I was a bit surprised that Trego was given the penultimate over after Turner had bowled so well earlier. Had that happened, he would not have incurred the boundary injury in that over. I really enjoyed his enthusiasm in the field.
LoL
Sixty-three Seasons a Somerset Supporter
I was a bit surprised that Trego was given the penultimate over after Turner had bowled so well earlier. Had that happened, he would not have incurred the boundary injury in that over. I really enjoyed his enthusiasm in the field.
LoL
Sixty-three Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: BVI Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 09:48
I thought Turner bowled well. If he hadn't done his ankle he might well have bowled instead of Trigger at the death.
He bowled back of a length without being too short, although when he was short he appeared to vary his pace and no-one seemed to get after him (although the pitch was very sluggish and no-one timed any pull or hook shots all day).
I haven't seen much of him live (just the Rose Bowl 2020 earlier this season) but he has a very natural-looking and athletic approach and, I think, a good action. He's obviously got pace... let's hope he can kick on.
BVI Grockle
He bowled back of a length without being too short, although when he was short he appeared to vary his pace and no-one seemed to get after him (although the pitch was very sluggish and no-one timed any pull or hook shots all day).
I haven't seen much of him live (just the Rose Bowl 2020 earlier this season) but he has a very natural-looking and athletic approach and, I think, a good action. He's obviously got pace... let's hope he can kick on.
BVI Grockle
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 09:59
Quote:BVI Grockle
I thought Turner bowled well. If he hadn't done his ankle he might well have bowled instead of Trigger at the death.
BVIG: my recollection is that Turner sustained his injury in the penultimate over, the one that Trego bowled and the one that I had hoped he himself would bowl. Thomas was always going to be the man to bowl the last over and I can't think why the rules can't be amended to allow him to bowl the last twenty overs in all such matches.
LoL
Sixty-three Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 10:02
Quote:cricketjerry-mouse
This time finals day is in an eight-day gap between the Second and Third Tests against Pakistan. I wonder if Andy Flower will allow Stuart Broad and Graeme Swann to play for Notts and Alastair Cook for Essex?
I'm not worried about Broad or Swann or Cook, given that Mr Flower or Mr Miller are certain to allow Kieswetter, Hildreth, Trego and Buttler to play for us.
LoL
Sixty-three Seasons a Somerset Supporter
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 10:19
He definitely needs to fumble catches early in our fielding session every game because it really seems to have galvanised him.
He has always given full measure in his fielding. Last season he nearly broke himself in two saving a boundary against Sussex in truly spectacular fashion.
He has always given full measure in his fielding. Last season he nearly broke himself in two saving a boundary against Sussex in truly spectacular fashion.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Slow Left Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 10:36
Turner was injured during Trego's (rubbish) over.
Brilliant bowling performance last night, MK and Arul were pretty unplayable at times.
As good as we were, Northants must be absolutely peeved at the way they made it so easy for us, and Boje must've been annoyed to miss out on a bunsen like that.
Brilliant bowling performance last night, MK and Arul were pretty unplayable at times.
As good as we were, Northants must be absolutely peeved at the way they made it so easy for us, and Boje must've been annoyed to miss out on a bunsen like that.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: BVI Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 10:42
Interesting to hear Ian Ward between innings looking at the pitch and saying that it was taking consistent spin, the implication being that the varying degrees of spin being imparted by MK were down to his skill levels alone.
He could not have sounded more reverential.
What a coup it is to have him for another year. Superb.
BVI Grockle
He could not have sounded more reverential.
What a coup it is to have him for another year. Superb.
BVI Grockle
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 10:44
One little piece of info from yesterday. A photographer who provides stuff for papers was asked by the Northants press yesterday is he would have any photos from last night for them.
He said yes and asked them what they were looking for. "Oh anything showing the player's dejection at losing" came the reply.
Not the greatest of requests made even less impressive by the fact that this conversation took place at 11:00 yesterday MORNING!!
I think a 'Bunsen' is possibly overstating it. Some shifted but flight, pace and variation did for most of them...along with their own poor work.
Arul tends to bowl really well at the opposite end to someone in the zone. He bowled very well against Kent and possibly should have been on earlier.
If he finds his form as well then Mike Munday's time is done....and maybe even Max (real shame I really enjoy his work)
He said yes and asked them what they were looking for. "Oh anything showing the player's dejection at losing" came the reply.
Not the greatest of requests made even less impressive by the fact that this conversation took place at 11:00 yesterday MORNING!!
I think a 'Bunsen' is possibly overstating it. Some shifted but flight, pace and variation did for most of them...along with their own poor work.
Arul tends to bowl really well at the opposite end to someone in the zone. He bowled very well against Kent and possibly should have been on earlier.
If he finds his form as well then Mike Munday's time is done....and maybe even Max (real shame I really enjoy his work)
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: mama mia (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 10:56
Tractor in the Long Room..........................
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 10:59
My opinion is Grockle that MKM's time is done already regardless. I think Stiff also.
I hope Max stays but the signing of Dockrell makes it difficult for him but he is different and having a leggie is always good.
They seem to be doing a lot of work with Turner and on this basis he may be kept. Still leaves us looking for a pace man (hence the Amjad conection). If Hayman isn't kept then possibly two pacemen will be sought.
I hope Max stays but the signing of Dockrell makes it difficult for him but he is different and having a leggie is always good.
They seem to be doing a lot of work with Turner and on this basis he may be kept. Still leaves us looking for a pace man (hence the Amjad conection). If Hayman isn't kept then possibly two pacemen will be sought.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 11:09
I liked the look of Jack (I've got at least three hairbands) Brook yesterday evening.
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Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Botham (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 11:15
Was there any cake left, I wonder?
As my membership doesn't entitle me to use the Long Room for T20, I deputised for him in his absence, but when he was in usual position for the Northants batting, I couldn't compete with either volume or wit!
As my membership doesn't entitle me to use the Long Room for T20, I deputised for him in his absence, but when he was in usual position for the Northants batting, I couldn't compete with either volume or wit!
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 11:42
Both,As my teacher used to say â€could do better’ I never heard you shouting once, could you turn the volume up next time.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 11:52
I'm not thrilled with the draw. I do not think there should have been one. As Group winners, I believe that ourselves and Notts should have been seeded and the other two should not have been.
I consider that our chances of beating Notts would be no better than 50:50. Conversely, I believe we have a 75-80% chance of beating either of the other two. The main reason I say this is that I believe Notts are one of only two teams, the other being SCCC that have a really decent T20 bowling attack. I don't think Essex or Hants have T20 bowling attacks that are all that good.
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I consider that our chances of beating Notts would be no better than 50:50. Conversely, I believe we have a 75-80% chance of beating either of the other two. The main reason I say this is that I believe Notts are one of only two teams, the other being SCCC that have a really decent T20 bowling attack. I don't think Essex or Hants have T20 bowling attacks that are all that good.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010:07:28:12:01:16 by AGod.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 11:55
I do not wish to see us part ways with either of our two wrist-spinners. I still harbour hopes of seeing MKM on suitable tracks, in tandem with Kartik, in the remainder of this year's CC.
As to Max Waller, since Arul is a proper batsman in his own right, I can see no logical reason why both of those gentlemen should not take their places in an SCCC one-day XI, alongside Kartik.
As to Max Waller, since Arul is a proper batsman in his own right, I can see no logical reason why both of those gentlemen should not take their places in an SCCC one-day XI, alongside Kartik.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Trevor Gard's Box (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 12:28
My apologies if this looks like posting after success in getting to Final's Day. Somerset looked like a grooved and very professional team with plenty of quality and Northants, I'm afraid, didn't. It appeared to me that there must be good club sides around who could have taken Northants on last night and the loss by Worcester to the Unicorns recently also shows the lack of some quality in the county game these days. It's a shame. White, Wakeley, Peters, Chigumbura, Willey, Murphy, Brooks....not a lot to get very excited about there but I appreciate that there were some injury problems. I don't think many (any ?) of the Northants players would get in the Somerset side.
Somerset and Notts are the strongest teams left and it's a shame that we pitch up against them in the semis. The winner of that ought to be champion elect but it gives Essex or Hampshire the chance to go in to the final as under-dog which they will probably relish. Esses will be a tougher proposition were "Dustcart" to be fit. Somerset really ought to fancy their chances to win this now. Here's hoping for some silverware and a great day on the 14th.
Somerset and Notts are the strongest teams left and it's a shame that we pitch up against them in the semis. The winner of that ought to be champion elect but it gives Essex or Hampshire the chance to go in to the final as under-dog which they will probably relish. Esses will be a tougher proposition were "Dustcart" to be fit. Somerset really ought to fancy their chances to win this now. Here's hoping for some silverware and a great day on the 14th.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 13:16
if we turn up firing on all cylinders we have as good a chance as any of them.
If not well..............
If not well..............
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 14:01
Swann is the worry. If Hants produce something that turns, then that should give us a huge advantage, UNLESS Swann is cleared to play, in which case it would be negated.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 14:13
It's only negated if we allow it to be.
The people who win this will be the ones who deal with what is put in front of them ON THE DAY.
Therefore, if we can't deal with it we will not, quite rightly, be champions at the end of the event.
We can win this, irrespective of what the other sides put on the pitch. The only issue is whether we play well or not.
NOTHING in the other sides is insurmountable for our squad of players. We are the best side at T20 when we fire.
All we have to do is fire on August 14 and the trophy will return to Taunton for the second time.
The people who win this will be the ones who deal with what is put in front of them ON THE DAY.
Therefore, if we can't deal with it we will not, quite rightly, be champions at the end of the event.
We can win this, irrespective of what the other sides put on the pitch. The only issue is whether we play well or not.
NOTHING in the other sides is insurmountable for our squad of players. We are the best side at T20 when we fire.
All we have to do is fire on August 14 and the trophy will return to Taunton for the second time.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 14:27
Negative talk cost matches.
Some have said if we play at our best we can beat anybody, so just say to the players before the match play at your best, “Game Won”.
Simple isn’t it.
Some have said if we play at our best we can beat anybody, so just say to the players before the match play at your best, “Game Won”.
Simple isn’t it.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 14:30
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11.30am: Hampshire Royals vs Essex Eagles
3pm: Nottinghamshire Outlaws vs Somerset
7.15pm: final
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Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: comebackgatt (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 14:32
Just wanted to pass on my congrats and wish you well on Finals day.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 14:32
if only Mike if only...soemtimes someone from another team will produce a match-winning performance and you have to put your hands up. That can happen in t20 cricket.
However, I know where you are coming from
However, I know where you are coming from
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 14:36
Woe betide Bransgrove if the pitch is anything like the T20 pitch that we played Hants on this season!
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 14:36
Thanks comebackgatt, very kind of you.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 14:59
And sometimes the match winning performance comes from Alfonso. Murali, Kieron, Marcus or Zander...wait a minute! They all have...this season in this competition.
Luck is one important aspect, faith is another.
Luck is one important aspect, faith is another.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 15:17
Is the same wicket used for all three matches on Finals Day?
I presume so.
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I presume so.
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Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 15:20
Well it was last year at Edgbaston - 120 overs in the day. One would expect so.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 15:51
of course we have guys that are match winners and have been this season. All Im saying is that t20 cricket is over and can slip away so quickly and one guy from the opposite side can take that away from you.
The flip side is that we can do it too ala Kiron at Lords.
The flip side is that we can do it too ala Kiron at Lords.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Botham (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 15:57
For a rare time I'm 100% in agreement with grockle.
Thanks Comebackgatt, I well remember my last 20/20 finals day at the Rosebowl.
Mike, my throat was a bit dry, due to all the adjacent smokers, but who can compete with the 'great' man?
Thanks Comebackgatt, I well remember my last 20/20 finals day at the Rosebowl.
Mike, my throat was a bit dry, due to all the adjacent smokers, but who can compete with the 'great' man?
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 16:12
Speculation that further spinning progress by Arul Suppiah, along with the arrival of George Dockrell, could mean curtains at the County Ground for Max Waller ignores the fact that he still has a year to run on his two-year contract.
MKM, on the ther hand,is only on a one-year deal at the moment.
MKM, on the ther hand,is only on a one-year deal at the moment.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 16:15
Interesting stats about 20/20 q/fs
6 out of 8 teams in Div 1 Championship
and all four finalists are Div 1.
Not sure what it proves but perhaps indication that better players are gravitating towards top teams?
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6 out of 8 teams in Div 1 Championship
and all four finalists are Div 1.
Not sure what it proves but perhaps indication that better players are gravitating towards top teams?
OLDBOYBA!
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 16:21
Ben Phillips has had an excellent season. However, if the remaining CC tracks are turners, we should surely be picking a second specialist spinner? Arul will play as an opener regardless but two left arm spinners as our complement is not ideal balance?
Equally if the squad next season contains two specialist left arm spinners, plus Arul and no other spinners, that would also constitute an imbalance.
Equally if the squad next season contains two specialist left arm spinners, plus Arul and no other spinners, that would also constitute an imbalance.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: nelliec (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 16:25
Surely if Mr Pollard is back for finals day it will be a straight swap for Turner. Arul is a certainty now I would assume?
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 16:33
I doubt that Arul is now considered a T20 certainty. Prior to yesterday, he had not bowled that much in this year's T20. Yesterday he, from what I've heard bowled well in favourable conditions. But if conditions are deemed to favour seam, I could see Turner getting the nod?
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 17:10
I would be happy with four left arm spinners if they were good enough. Quality before uncertain variety for me every time.
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Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 17:53
"Speculation that further spinning progress by Arul Suppiah, along with the arrival of George Dockrell, could mean curtains at the County Ground for Max Waller ignores the fact that he still has a year to run on his two-year contract."
Indeed, he does Jerry, but just over a week ago, you said:-
This poses the questions:-
(a) Will Dockrell sign the two - year contract offered to him? He hasn't yet, and a date in October is when it is anticipated that it might happen and,
(b) Is it a possibility that Max Waller will "ask to leave", on account of him having limited first team opportunities?
If so, will Somerset agree to releasing him from the final year of his contract?
Indeed, he does Jerry, but just over a week ago, you said:-
Quote:cricketjerry-mouse
So whatever happens, we will need spinning cover for April, May, and possibly part of June. This will be George Dockrell`s chance, if he signs the two-year contract currently on offer, to cement a place in the side. It also allows the possibility, should Somerset decide that Murali`s 2011 stay would be altogether too short, to bolster our quick attack with an overseas player.
On the leggie front, Max Waller will definitely be here next year as he is on a two-year contract, unless of course he asks to leave. Michael Munday is the more vulnerable as his one-year contract ends this summer.
This poses the questions:-
(a) Will Dockrell sign the two - year contract offered to him? He hasn't yet, and a date in October is when it is anticipated that it might happen and,
(b) Is it a possibility that Max Waller will "ask to leave", on account of him having limited first team opportunities?
If so, will Somerset agree to releasing him from the final year of his contract?
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Streeter (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 18:34
For anyone who hasn't picked it up already here is Arul after the game last night
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Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Slow Left Chinaman (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 19:16
[news.bbc.co.uk]
Essex sign Bravo for finals day.
Not sure I agree with being able to do this, surely people should have had some previous link to the county to be able to play. Bring in the mercenaries for the final!
Essex sign Bravo for finals day.
Not sure I agree with being able to do this, surely people should have had some previous link to the county to be able to play. Bring in the mercenaries for the final!
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Alan Tucker (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 19:20
After demolishing Northants the biggest problem is how to park near the Rose Bowl cul de sac. Any ideas?
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 19:36
It must be possible that Dockrell, who is apparently a very intelligent young man, will opt to spend three years at university before deciding whether he wants (and is good enough) to be a full time professional cricketer.
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Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 20:50
I suspect that he is still considering a number of options, Sir.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 28/07/2010 21:43
But everything I've heard points to him signing for us at the end of the season. There aren't any doubts in his mind it seems and it was simply pointless cotracting him now for a season he can't play in and there are some paperwork requirements of his regulatory body.
I'm sure you can therefore read doubts into the possibility of him suddenly deciding against it but nothing I've heard from internal and external sources suggest that this is anything but a done deal.
Good pont about Max though. Just because he is contracted doesn't mean he'll get the opportunity to play and if he requests to leave would we hold him to his contract?
I'm sure you can therefore read doubts into the possibility of him suddenly deciding against it but nothing I've heard from internal and external sources suggest that this is anything but a done deal.
Good pont about Max though. Just because he is contracted doesn't mean he'll get the opportunity to play and if he requests to leave would we hold him to his contract?
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: old boy! (IP Logged)
Date: 29/07/2010 06:59
Ref Essex and Bravo. Should be good for their team spirit!! The guy who misses out will, I presume be delighted!!!
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Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Sloop John B (IP Logged)
Date: 29/07/2010 08:32
My thoughts exactly OB ! Best isn't a sure-fire guaranteed success so it might well backfire.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/07/2010 08:34
Have to agree about buying in 'talent' just for the finals. Surely you should get your squad together BEFORE the competition starts and then play THAT squad until the end.
Poor in so many ways.
Poor in so many ways.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/07/2010 11:12
Essex desperately need a penetrative bowler, though, assuming that Pakistan will not release Danish Kaneria. If they are able to play both of Kaneria and Bravo, they will have the same sort of decent attack that us and Notts have (but Hants lack.)
Then again, will Mr Bransgrove be able to resist getting his cheque book out for some late overseas additions for Finals Day on home territory?
Then again, will Mr Bransgrove be able to resist getting his cheque book out for some late overseas additions for Finals Day on home territory?
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 29/07/2010 11:34
Bring on Mr Warne...
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Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/07/2010 11:37
Probably not a bad shout!!! I imagine that the peroxide wrist-spinner would rather relish the drama of such a comeback, too.
Of course, such a move, if agreed sufficiently far in advance, might dramatically increase the chances of Hants deliberately preparing a turning track. Which would not exactly be a disaster for SCCC.
Of course, such a move, if agreed sufficiently far in advance, might dramatically increase the chances of Hants deliberately preparing a turning track. Which would not exactly be a disaster for SCCC.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/07/2010 16:59
Should not be allowed unless stated as one of the international choices at the start.
Why not just keep an eye on all the sides. and then sign anyone who looks like a good player in a losing cause for your final side.
It defeats the object of competition. It denegrates the work of less well know players who probably got you to the finals and it is another example of marginalising the game in the pursuit of money and glory you don't deserve.
Why not just keep an eye on all the sides. and then sign anyone who looks like a good player in a losing cause for your final side.
It defeats the object of competition. It denegrates the work of less well know players who probably got you to the finals and it is another example of marginalising the game in the pursuit of money and glory you don't deserve.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Bobstan (IP Logged)
Date: 29/07/2010 17:11
Well said, Grockle.
With not one word would I disagree.
With not one word would I disagree.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 29/07/2010 17:22
I recall Yorkshire signing an Australian (Eliot?) for a Lord's final against us who made a century. It seemed wrong at the time and it still seems wrong.
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Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: AGod (IP Logged)
Date: 29/07/2010 19:29
I might be wrong but I thought that MTG Elliott was simply the replacement overseas player for someone else (Lehmann) who had been injured?
I don't believe that Elliott joined solely for the final?
I don't believe that Elliott joined solely for the final?
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
Date: 29/07/2010 19:55
My memory of this point is similar to yours, AGod.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
Date: 29/07/2010 20:22
My memory is that, while he may not have been signed specifically for the final, he played in no other rounds because he was not then a member of the squad. I have a gut instinct that one should at least have been available for previous rounds before playing in a final, but that's probably because we lost, he scored a match-winning century and he wasn't playing for us.
I never said I wasn;t biased, did I?
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Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
Date: 29/07/2010 21:01
Essex were without an overseas player yesterday, with New Zealand all-rounder Scott Styris having returned home and Pakistan leg-spinner Danish Kaneria preparing for the npower Test series against England.
Here is a question.
When did they lose those two players, were they both registered and played in the t20 if they did then I can’t see how they can have anybody else for the finals day under the t20 registration rules.
If only one of those were registered and played in the t20 then I think they would be allowed under the one OS player rule.
Here is a question.
When did they lose those two players, were they both registered and played in the t20 if they did then I can’t see how they can have anybody else for the finals day under the t20 registration rules.
If only one of those were registered and played in the t20 then I think they would be allowed under the one OS player rule.
Re: Northants or Glory
Posted by: Grockle (IP Logged)
Date: 29/07/2010 21:58
Everything should be registered BEFORE the first match. Even international players you may use later in the competition.
I also believe that Elliot was an accepted part of the Yorkshire squad before the final though he was the difference between the two of us on that day. If he hadn't been I would have expected a bigger response from us at the time.
I also believe that Elliot was an accepted part of the Yorkshire squad before the final though he was the difference between the two of us on that day. If he hadn't been I would have expected a bigger response from us at the time.
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