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The T20 Fungoround starts today


Albie is here..

By Grockle et al
June 13 2012

The fun that some of you go on holiday to avoid starts at Taunton this afternoon as we take on Warwickshire.  Given the present weather it's probably god that we only want to play for three hours but it will be with a new team and some new stars in Albie Morkel and Richard Levi both of who featured in our warm ups against Gloucestershire over the last few days.....

v WARWICKSHIRE T20 @ Taunton Wednesday 13 June 2012

Scorecard

Commentary (Televised on SKY)

Captain Thomas leads his young men out against the might of the Bears with two new weapons in his locker.  The hard batting of Richard Levi and the allround and substantial capabilities of Albie Morkel.  He also has a number of new boys who may feature in the side.  No Marcus Trescothick of course and we will lose Craig Kieswetter for part of the tournament on England duty.  However Jos Buttler will still be here and we've pulled Steve Snell in once again should our younger keeper be asked to go and do some international stuff. There is also the O'Brian factor as Kevin joins the ranks

I have no idea what the makeup of the side will be but you would expect it to include the following players;

Levi, Morkel, Trego, Hildreth, Buttler, Compton, Thomas, Dockrell, O'Brian

I am uncertain whether they will use Craig Kieswetter if he is not available for other games and one would assume that Jos will keep.  The bowling will be put in the hands of Steve Kirby one would expect but this is not his field of expertise and I would also expect to see Craig Meschede brought in if he is back to fitness because this IS becoming his.  The tight lines of the third Craig, Craig Overton would also be useful but T20 is a new format for him, as for others.  Another possible is Arul Suppiah not as an opener but as a flexible batsman and extra slow man.  Lewis Gregory is neither fit enough to bowl or the force he was last year presently and I doubt the opening skills of Alex Barrow or the pace of Gemaal Hussain are particularly suited to this for of the game.  Max Waller would be another option for all round short game versatility but his time will come when George Dockrell leaves for U19 National captain's duty.

There will be more to come as I am at my first game should all go to plane this afternoon. See you there if you are.

We start on time under grey skies but Guy Lavender reckons the weather might be nice to us.  Warwickshire win the toss and put Somerset in so Craig K and a very large unit called Richard Levi stroll out to do battle in very snazzy new grey helmets.  Meanwhile The Bears have gone for the 'off brown' look (well cross between Yellow and brown I suppose).  Quite a lot of swinging and missing as I type though Craig has already put two into the crowd and straight driven another for 4.  It's a sparse crowd but the PA has improved!!

22 for 1 after 3 as Craig flips one to the leg fielder off Woakes, thinks he bump balled it... but he didn't and he's on his way.

The Somerset team finally is

Kieswetter, Levi, Trego, Compton, Buttler, O'Brian, Morkel, Thomas, Dockrell, Waller and Kirby

An interesting side ....take the pace off the ball I say!!

More to come but as it's on the telly and it's the first one back please excuse me if it's a bit patchy tonight.  Pete has joined Levi who has just nonchalently flipped one over the keepers head to the OP.  31 for 1 after 4. 

Richard Levi may have the look of a little Cosgrove about him but he hits a ball a flaming long way and with some real confidence.  He is a mna who willgo for his shots irrespective of the opposition and he certainly did tonight on an excellent crowd pleasing debut for his new county.  With excellent support from Albie who then daftly ran himself out (I think he didn't run because he didn't think he'd played a shot) the big man murdered the Bears middle bowing and we put up 191 even the skipper glancing shots over the keeper.  Good batting - but some silly shots still to be removed and a stiff total.

So on to the bowling - Max Waller man of the match and richly deserved 4 for 16 ripped the heart out of the side and took out the dangermen to boot.  He so nearly got the hatrick!!  Steve Kirby fire in the belly and took a very satisfying wicket after softening up Barker before skittling him.  George should have had more but Albie put one down from him which he should have held and the skipper did his 'front and back' stuff with 3.  Bowl them up front and then put the willies up the tail!!  Albie looked in need of a bit more bowling but has an easy style and an excellent length ball.  But Waller was the man tonight and richly deserved the award.

We looked confident and absolutely murderous in the second half.  Had no doubt whatsoever that Warwickshire would get nowhere near this total.  Good start to the T20 and better to come if people close a few holes and get their 'feel' for the conditions.

I'm gald to be back!!

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2012:06:16:15:10:26 by Grockle.

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 13:32
Well, I shall not be there because it is not a format of the game that pleases me one iota.

However, I shall be following the game and rooting for and wishing Somerset well, even though the team with a bunch of 'hired - hands' on board, will bear a totally different resemblance to any that has gone before it this year.

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
AGod (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 14:02
Are you back in Blighty for this one, Grockle?

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
Frome Exile (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 14:44
Isn't a different resemblance somewhat of a contradiction in terms, CP?
Not that I either miss or disagree with your point, you understand.

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
AGod (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 14:52
SCCC seem to be, perhaps, one of a diminishing group of teams that appear fully committed to always bringing in two overseas T20 players, if at all possible, for T20?

Warks haven't bothered at all in terms of bringing in anyone new from outside - just kept their existing CC player.

I wonder about the rest of the group?

I know Northants signed Cam - presumably they will also play Vaas?

Glamorgan signed Van Jaarsveld. Not sure if they have anyone else? Cosgrove again?

Presume Gloucs are keeping Williamson - have they added anyone else?

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 15:04
Glamorgan have shaun marsh and marcus north as well as van jarsvald and could well be a good outside bet for this tournament IMO.They have them for all games too so none of this nipping home for a namby pamby, willy nilly, Hoitty toitty t20 tourney in Zimbabwe!!!

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
AGod (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 15:07
Shaun Marsh has, I think, a good record in the IPL.

I think that could be a pretty good shout, Ronnie, although either or both Australian (and MVJ) could all be stymied by sloath-paced surfaces at the Swalec.

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 15:22
At this moment it is spotting with rain, the match is scheduled to finish at 8.15 goodness knows what the light will be like at that time.

Mind you with SKY here they will play in complete darkness.

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
Botham (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 15:24
If we're playing God, we have no chance!

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
hantssabre (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 15:25
Presumably the Welsh Dragons will be desperate to make it to Finals day this year as its being staged at the Swalec

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
AGod (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 15:25
Did they not put the floodlights up, Mike?

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 15:28
Quote:
AGod
Did they not put the floodlights up, Mike?

No, they have asked us all to take a torch.

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
hantssabre (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 15:29
Haven't you noticed from the recent glorious weather AG that this is the height of midsummer so we shouldn't need lights!

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
barndoorio (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 16:19
It's raining over the ground at the moment. A steady persistent drizzle.

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
AGod (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 16:20
Quel surprise.

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
Bobstan (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 16:34
Quote:
Botham
If we're playing God, we have no chance!

I don't know so much, Botham.
Had I been present at the creation I could have given him/her a few hints for the betterment of things.

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 16:36
yes no doubt our first 3 will be rained off and then when we have no Dockrell, Kieswetter, Buttler, Obrien, Morkel or Levi as well as no Trescothick the weather will brighten up for our games with Warks and Glamorgan who will be at full strength.

Im away to put a bet on that happens.could end up quite rich!!

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 16:39
Steve Cotton has tweeted that Hildy is missing out and Compo is going to play......unconfirmed though!!!

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 16:43
Well, if Somerset choose to select foreign imports at the cost of Hildreth, who has always seemed an excellent T20 player to me, my ancient loyalty is going to be stretched somewhat.

The only consolation is that it is not real cricket.



LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
AGod (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 16:47
After the T20 loss to Leics in last year's final, I had a look back at semi-finals and final games played by SCCC in both T20 and Pro 40 over the past few seasons.

It was noticeable that Hildreth had not really covered himself in glory - despite a good innings vs Warks. Moreover, he did not manage - over the games taken as a whole - to get ahead of the run-a-ball mark.

To my mind, in T20 and 40 over cricket, the difference makers are those guys that can make reasonably large scores at better than a run a ball.

Is Compton a great bet to do better than a run-a-ball?

Probably not. BUT.. if he ever is going to do it, it should be when he is in his current vein of form, I'd have thought?

If true that Hildreth is not playing then it might also explain (in part) why Brian had previously said that the captaincy would be reviewed "before the T20."

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 17:47
Without commenting on Hildreth's performance, I would like to mention that since the start of the 2005 season until today Hildreth had played in every one of Somerset's competitive T20 matches, exactly 100 matches in all.



LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
AGod (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 18:49
A bit surprised that we've picked both Kirby and Max. I'd rather have more batting in the side and not sure that either those two or George will get many at the end, if required.

I'd have picked Arul and Craig M instead.

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
AGod (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 18:51
Compton getting stuck a bit in the 17th.

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
AGod (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 19:01
And that run out might cost us this match.

If you are going to include Compton then batting him that low is probably not wise.

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
AGod (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 19:08
In theory there's not much power in the Warks' line-up... So if we bowl and field anything like that should be enough..

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
AGod (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 19:48
Brilliant by the keeper!

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
AGod (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 20:04
Excellent from Max. Game over, really.

Very good performance in the field.

Batting? Fine overall though relied heavily on the two overseas.

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
Bobstan (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 20:10
Yes, so within the rules of the competition it's just as well they were both selected!

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
AGod (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 20:21
If you are alluding to LoL's earlier comment re:Hildreth, Marcus offered the view that Hildreth was left out in favour of Compton.

It didn't sound as though there was any debate re:leaving out any of the new signings.

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
Hants Fan (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 20:23
I think Somerset will walk this group, its pretty weak.

Warwickshire are built as a Championship team but look very weak as a bowling attack outside Woakes and no explosion in the batting.

In the CB40 they beat Derbyshire and Northants twice and got hammered by Kent by 10 wickets.

The rest of the group looks blah. Somerset will finish top with ease IMO.

In the knockouts it depends on who you draw. Somerset will look to outbat teams in the tradional Somerset way. Very strong batting, pretty average bowling.

You should do well in this comp.

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
Bobstan (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 20:27
Would I have a go at LoL?

It's just as well no thought was given to leaving out either of them in favour of Hildreth (or indeed Compton).

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
Bobstan (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 20:37
I imagine ob will be fairly satisfied with this match.
Actually most supporters will, surely. Lovely for Max.

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 20:47
Max of the Match! Great work by the team tonight, well done everyone.

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 20:49
Message for BJ:

You can come out now. We've won the T20; it's all over, with CC cricket resuming on Saturday, a three-day match, interrupted by a JPL match on Sunday, and then another three-day match starting on Wednesday.



LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
Bobstan (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 20:56
Oh, Ludd.

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 20:58
Quote:
AGod
A bit surprised that we've picked both Kirby and Max. I'd rather have more batting in the side and not sure that either those two or George will get many at the end, if required.
I'd have picked Arul and Craig M instead.
not
Congratulations, AGod. You are hereby appointed to the Selection Panel (of Gloucestershire).

I am sure Hildreth would have done just as well as Compton did tonight.

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
Roger Sweet (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 21:04
Nearly a perfect performance today and great for Max who always seems to bowl well in the 20/20. My only criticism is the strange decision to see Compo coming in to bat ahead of O'Brien. We really should have scored 205+ at that point and it was the perfect time for a little cameo from O'Brien!!!

 
Re: The T20 Fungoround starts today
old boy! (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 21:05
Quote:
Bobstan
I imagine ob will be fairly satisfied with this match.
Actually most supporters will, surely. Lovely for Max.

Absolutely delighted for Max - he has earnt a night in the limelight. Interestingly, and to be totally honest everytime he tried to bowl his googly, it landed halfway down the wicket, but none of the batters punished him.

Nevertheless a great night for him!

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 21:11
I suspect, ob, that you're the only one clever enough to spot Waller's googly.

I am really happy for him this evening.



LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 21:15
One of the nicest moments tonight came when Richard Levi caught the last Warwickshire batsman to end their innings.

He immediately went over to Max Waller to give him the match ball as a souvenir of Max`s best T20 bowling performance to date.

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
Tumbles (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 21:17
Got held up in Southend so not enough time to get to gods own county but home in BS20 for our last five overs. Agree Compo was a bad decision but based on his innings on Monday I guess he was worth at least one try at 6. Sky commentators were a joke at suggesting 191 wasn't that good.

Simply different class in the field, Waller great with the ball but also buzzing in field and saved a couple of boundaries.

Good to get points on the board as tomorrow looks a nailed on wash out if the forecast is anything to go by.

How big was Levi's six over the CA!!

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 21:23
It was a Morkel six, tumbles, and it was big, big, big.

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
Tumbles (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 21:26
The wife text me to say she thought it had gone in the river, that's quite impressive

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 21:33
Van Jaarsveld is now English qualified, so the Welsh Dragons will be able to play him in the same side as Shaun Marsh and Marcus North.

I wonder what percentage of their salaries is being met by Glamorgan`s European Union grant?

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
nelliec (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 22:42
apparently Morkels six bounced on the bridge over the new pavillion.

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 23:12
I am going to post my photos tomorrow it is getting late to do it tonight.



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Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
wsm fan (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 23:22
Excellent performance, much more like what we are used to for a home one day effort.
Superb batting (answers on a postcard for why Compo played ahead of Arul, Hildy or even Meschede!?) Excellent player but just not suited to T20 and certainly not at number 6 with 4-5 overs to go!!!

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
AGod (IP Logged)
13/06/2012 23:25
And involved in yet another run out!

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
14/06/2012 00:28
" involved" -as in being the batsman at the other end while his partner ran himself out.

I can see the logic in picking Compton. If there is an early clatter of wickets then a steady run a ball man can right the ship. If there isn't- and there wasn't tonight- then he comes in if necessary at 9 or 10. or doesn't bat.If O Brien had come in where he should in front of Compton then probably he wouldn't have batted so it doesn't matter whether it was him or Hildreth.
Don't forget that we will start to lose players soon.

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
14/06/2012 07:04
I have some sympathy with those who look askance at imports but I remember Pollard/Kartik...White/Langer etc and realise that it's not so different. Are we likely to get any play tonight?

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
old boy! (IP Logged)
14/06/2012 07:10
Quote:
geordie moonraker
Are we likely to get any play tonight?

If the forecast is only half right it should start by midnight!!!(Sm108)

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
old boy! (IP Logged)
14/06/2012 07:14
Quote:
Mike TA1
I am going to post my photos tomorrow it is getting late to do it tonight.

Mike is probably still getting over the shock of a six which landed near him behind the covers as he looked through his lens!!!
(Sm145)

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
chunkyinargyll (IP Logged)
14/06/2012 07:18
Was he in Morkel danger?

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
Bobstan (IP Logged)
14/06/2012 07:23
Or did Mike have to Levitate to avoid being struck?

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
14/06/2012 07:32
At the start of the match, Radio 5 Live said they would be interviewing Andy Nash during the evening, specifically about Murali's comments on T20 and merging Somerset and Gloucs. They were saying it jokingly, as in "we'll light the blue touchpaper and run away".

Did anyone hear the interview and what AN had to say?

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
old boy! (IP Logged)
14/06/2012 08:15
IMO Murali has been 'got at' by Willis, Atherton and Nicholas!!

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
Bobstan (IP Logged)
14/06/2012 08:23
If they amalgamate Somerset and Gloucestershire poor old Murali wouldn't get in the team, would he? 3rd choice spinner.

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
14/06/2012 08:25
Yesterday’s photos from Somerset v Warwickshire match

The weather was kind to us with the sun coming out during the match.

http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p490/cricketphotos1/Cricket%20Photos/2012%20Somerset%20Cricket%20Photos/Somerset%20v%20Warwickshire%20FLt20%2013th%20June%202012/RLevi6runs2.jpg

Richard Levi hitting a six on the leg side.

http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p490/cricketphotos1/Cricket%20Photos/2012%20Somerset%20Cricket%20Photos/Somerset%20v%20Warwickshire%20FLt20%2013th%20June%202012/RLevi6runs.jpg

Richard Levi hitting this big six a lot straighter.

http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p490/cricketphotos1/Cricket%20Photos/2012%20Somerset%20Cricket%20Photos/Somerset%20v%20Warwickshire%20FLt20%2013th%20June%202012/RClarkebldMaxWaller.jpg

Rikki Clarke going down the pitch to Max Waller and regretting it, one of Max’s four wickets.

http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p490/cricketphotos1/Cricket%20Photos/2012%20Somerset%20Cricket%20Photos/Somerset%20v%20Warwickshire%20FLt20%2013th%20June%202012/DMaddylbwMWaller.jpg

Darren Maddy out first ball lbw to Max Waller.

http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p490/cricketphotos1/Cricket%20Photos/2012%20Somerset%20Cricket%20Photos/Somerset%20v%20Warwickshire%20FLt20%2013th%20June%202012/CraigKieswetter4runs.jpg

Craig Kieswetter got us off to a good start this was one of his four’s

http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p490/cricketphotos1/Cricket%20Photos/2012%20Somerset%20Cricket%20Photos/Somerset%20v%20Warwickshire%20FLt20%2013th%20June%202012/AThomas4runs.jpg

Could Charl Willoughby do this I doubt it, Alfonso Thomas helping a short ball over the wicketkeepers head for four runs.



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Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
Tumbles (IP Logged)
14/06/2012 08:53
Quote:
SheptonPaul
At the start of the match, Radio 5 Live said they would be interviewing Andy Nash during the evening, specifically about Murali's comments on T20 and merging Somerset and Gloucs. They were saying it jokingly, as in "we'll light the blue touchpaper and run away".
Did anyone hear the interview and what AN had to say?

Yes I did as I was still pludering down the M4 at this point with fading hopes of making it to Taunton for some of the game.

He basically said he respected Murali's comments but thought they were completely wrong and basically said that completely disagreed. Pointed out that the likes of the IPL are solely funded by the TV revenues and that fans are given tickets. Suggested that there isn't much wrong with T20 in this country other than finally settling on a schedule and that it was all about the fans and getting bums on seats (mentioned how Surrey had sold 26k tickets for their two matches)

Came across very well

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
Big Jim (IP Logged)
14/06/2012 09:24
He also mentioned something about Elvis, Benny Hill and pantomimes.
He came across, he most definitely came across.

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
14/06/2012 09:28
Thanks Tumbles...

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
14/06/2012 09:40
Radio five live is covering today's match against Gloucester.

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
Tumbles (IP Logged)
14/06/2012 09:43
It'll be a miracle if we get a 5 over a side game tonight looking at the forecast.

It always seems to rain in this fixture, Glos must be gutted it wasn't last night as they'd probably got a near full house.

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
14/06/2012 11:00
Quote:
Tumbles
It'll be a miracle if we get a 5 over a side game tonight looking at the forecast.
It always seems to rain in this fixture, Glos must be gutted it wasn't last night as they'd probably got a near full house.

... and got minus two points as well.



LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
Botham (IP Logged)
14/06/2012 12:24
The logic in picking Compo, is that he is bang in form, did well in the practice matches and so it would be a knock on his confidence not to!

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
Tumbles (IP Logged)
14/06/2012 13:57
Will it rain is starting to suggest that it's breaking up before it reaches Bristol and might hold off. We might get some play after all.

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
AGod (IP Logged)
14/06/2012 14:27
Quote:
Botham
The logic in picking Compo, is that he is bang in form, did well in the practice matches and so it would be a knock on his confidence not to!

In reality Compton is probably no worse in T20 than any of the Warks' batting line-up.

In the sort of team that we field for T20 he tends to stick out like a sore thumb, though.

Never mind Hildreth, I don't really understand why we don't pick Suppiah ahead of Compton (and Hildreth for that matter)?

I certainly think he's more of a six-hitter than Compton or Hildreth (has been in the CC this year). There's nothing in it, really, fielding wise between the three of them, but only one of them bowls to an acceptable standard
.

There may have been a case for picking Compton based on his overall form and those warm-up games. But if he still cannot push the score along even when he IS bang in form, then I'd suggest that last night has undermined the case for his inclusion, overall.

Plus there's the ever-present increased (compared to when any of our other players are batting) danger of a run-out to factor into the equation.

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
Nailsea_Fizz (IP Logged)
14/06/2012 16:18
you really are harsh on the man aren't you. We won by a hefty margin and he was par tof the team.

It doesn't matter this many hours after the event

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
Grockle (IP Logged)
14/06/2012 16:25
Sources have informed me (it's so good to have 'sources' again) that the situation was explained to Compo as "...show you should be picked for T20 in the parctice games and we'll pick you..."

He did so they did.



(Sm72)

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
AGod (IP Logged)
14/06/2012 16:57
Well, fair enough, Grockle. If they've said that and he's then outperformed everybody else in the warm-up game then you could not then turn around and not pick him (at least not without looking as if they'd lied to him.)

But there's still the issue of IF you are going to pick him, where do you put him?

To my mind it would be odd to have somebody that does not bowl at all coming in miles down the order at 7 or 8? It would be as though they were a spare part - a specialist batsman at 7 or 8?

I guess this might be - in part - why he came in ahead of Kevin O'Brien - a move which seems to have mystified some?

I can see why they may be reluctant to have him up at the top of the order, in terms of maximising the power-play.

But then teams usually also like to finish their innings with a flourish.

Do you put him in the middle of the order somewhere i.e. at 4?

Realistically, with all the impending absences, I suppose we will soon have a situation where all three of Arul, Hildreth and Compton are playing in the same T20 team anyway.

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
Nailsea_Fizz (IP Logged)
14/06/2012 17:05
Well as he is of no use, maybe we can play with 10

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
AGod (IP Logged)
14/06/2012 17:09
I don't think I said that, Nailsea Fizz. As I said he's probably no worse in T20 than most of those that lined up against us for Warks.

But he did slow the momentum of the innings right down.

Turned out to be immaterial as we bowled and fielded well and the Warks batting has all the power of a cap-gun.

But, one assumes, there will be occasions when we don't perform quite so well in the field and/or we face more powerful batting line-ups.

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
14/06/2012 17:49
awful harsh on Hildy whatvere spin you want to put on it.

Actually think Meschede is a better T20 player and he should have played. He would have given more bowling options too.

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
samaithai2 (IP Logged)
14/06/2012 17:55
Cricinfo states inspection 6 o'clock

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
Grockle (IP Logged)
15/06/2012 17:50
I would certainly have Meschede in my T20 side but he may not be fully fit yet.

Nick certainly came out to make runs on Wednesday. Whether he is one of our best eleven T20 players however is another thing and open to debate I suppose.



(Sm72)

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
belgraviaboy (IP Logged)
15/06/2012 19:40
I can understand why Compton was picked - to give the other batsmen someone to play around. Almost in a Zander DB type role.

We should deploy him flexibly, depending on how wickets are falling.

On Wednesday, I didn't think we needed him when he came in and O'Brian should have come in above him, and kept the momentum going.

However, If the game has played out differently, with Somerset collapsing, then having NC to come in to steady the ship could have looked like a shrewd move.

Cheers

BB

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
15/06/2012 19:58
Quote:
belgraviaboy
I can understand why Compton was picked - to give the other batsmen someone to play around. Almost in a Zander DB type role.
We should deploy him flexibly, depending on how wickets are falling.

On Wednesday, I didn't think we needed him when he came in and O'Brian should have come in above him, and kept the momentum going.

However, If the game has played out differently, with Somerset collapsing, then having NC to come in to steady the ship could have looked like a shrewd move.

Cheers

BB


That is almost word for word I said to a friend of mine.

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
Reverse Swing (IP Logged)
15/06/2012 23:12
Agreed Mike, but we didn't react to the situation which needed O'Brien's power rather than Compton's stoicism.

It's almost like they sent him in out of sentimentality or loyalty, having told him he'd play if he did well in the warm-ups.

But then, I think we tend to be a bit rigid with our batting line-up once a game has started, rather than react to a situation.

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
AGod (IP Logged)
15/06/2012 23:47
Surely Compton is more likely to make 40 from 40 balls than 20 from 20?

Surely his spectacular warm up effort vs Gloucs did NOT involve him coming in late on at 6 or 7?

Bat him earlier, not later?

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
Reverse Swing (IP Logged)
15/06/2012 23:51
It was Glamorgan. He batted low down vs Glos and made next to nothing.

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
Ronniesabre (IP Logged)
16/06/2012 09:57
I'd open with him tomorrow and tell him to bat most of the 20 overs. Then tell trego meschede hildy obrien etc to go for it at the other end.

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
Reverse Swing (IP Logged)
16/06/2012 10:21
Trouble is Ronnie he'd end up with most of the strike for his 49 off 60 balls.

 
Re: Bears Mauled by Somerset Part 2
Railboy (IP Logged)
16/06/2012 11:10
Quote:
Reverse Swing
Trouble is Ronnie he'd end up with most of the strike for his 49 off 60 balls.

And just think how many runouts there would be if he were in most of the 20 overs!(Sm147)

My biggest concern is that a month of floundering in a game he is totally unsuited for (and he was floundering, it cannot be disguised as anything but) may affect his CC form where he is undoubtedly our main man with the bat.
We don't need him in 20/20 and he doesn't need it, seems a no brainer to me.

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