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Notts - A complete washout?


Day 3 before this!

By Grockle
August 19 2011

Rain for two days with 20 runs made and two home wickets lost is not what Somerset need at the moment.  The weather relents on day 3 but this game is a 'washout' as part of the run in to the CC1 title unless the two captains become very inventive indeed 

v Nottinghamshire CC1 @ Taunton Wednesday 17 August 2011

Scorecard

Commentary

After rain for two days, one foray to the crease, 20 runs to Somerset and two LBW wickets to Fletcher (Trecothick and Suppiah), we finally get this game underway at the beginning of Day 3 in absolutely wonderful conditions!

The Somerset side is;

Trescothick, Suppiah, Compton, Hildreth, Kieswetter, Buttler, Trego, Kirby, Thomas, Willoughby and Dockrell (making his CC1 debut)

Notts won the toss and put us in and then struck twice before the rain came and the game went into stasis until 11 on Friday.  The chances of a result coming from this that is Pro Somerset are very slim but we'll see how it develops over the first two sessions and I suppose, take it from there.

Presently Compton and Hildreth are facing Shreck and Fletcher and they have almost doubled the score without further loss.  However, it doesn't stay so wonderful as we pass 50 and Compo plays a lovely forward defensive shot down to the wrong line and sees his stumps skittled by Andre Adams.  There is the basic picture of the morning session.  Some good shots, batsmen looking comfortable bowlers maitaining decent lines and occasionally a batsman mistaking the trajectory of the ball and losing their castles!  Kieswetter did just this at 72 and was really surprised by it.  Hildreth was less surprised but no less out at 88.  Batting points do not look that likely by the lunch interval by which Buttler and Trego have moved the score on to 130 for 5.

After lunch the bonus point situation looks even less likely when Thomas replaces Pete when he flips one off the glove (though PT might disagree with that assessment of where it hit him) from Fletcher to Read.  137 for 6 and this day is not looking like a good one for the home side in terms of getting something from this game. 

And the Andre Adams show continues as he gets his inswinger working once again and we continue to misread the line of the ball.  Jos sees his off stump uprooted before we make 150 (147) and Alf then drives at one and hears the clatter at 154.  However we have the team of Kirby and Dockrell to come and they seem less impressed by the Notts bowlers both hitting boundaries and in Steve's case hooking Charlie Shreck for four.

It doesn't last though and Adams gets George LBW off the toe at 177 after a partnership of 23.  In comes Charl to a long conversation with his partner about batting strategy.  Adams bowls, Charl steps to off and misses the ball as it flies just past his stump.  He misses the next so Adams bowls a straight full slower one and out goes the stump and we are gone for 177.  Adams takes 6 for 33.

Now that's an interesting situation except we get no bonus batting points.  Hmmm

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Notts - A complete washout?
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19/08/2011 11:18
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011:08:21:13:51:49 by Grockle.

 
Notts ,Notts and more Notts
nelliec (IP Logged)
16/08/2011 17:51
Nottinghamshire team to face Somerset (from): Alex Hales, Karl Turner, Darren Bravo, Samit Patel, Steven Mullaney, Riki Wessels, Chris Read, Paul Franks, Andre Adams, Luke Fletcher, Darren Pattinson, Charlie Shreck, Graeme White
No place for Mr Phillips?
Somerset 2nds have included Max at the Rosebowl today but not George.Read that into what you will!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011:08:16:17:53:21 by nelliec.

 
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SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
16/08/2011 18:35
I'd read it that George has a good chance of playing, while Max doesn't.

Thanks nell

 
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samaithai2 (IP Logged)
16/08/2011 19:11
Chris Jones, Alex Barrow, Lewis Gregory and Gemaal Hussain all
included in the seconds squad for the rose bowl so we probaly not see any of these included for the first team.

 
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Norwich SCCC (IP Logged)
16/08/2011 19:48
A huge game for our Championship hopes.

Has our squad been announced and what are the weather prospects for the four days?

 
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AGod (IP Logged)
16/08/2011 19:50
I take it that Craig K is available for this one, so he replaces Jones?

And Dockrell all but certain to replace Kartik?

 
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AGod (IP Logged)
16/08/2011 21:53
Forecast has deteriorated sharply and now suggests a virtual wash-out with 3 days out of 4 being heavily curtailed.

 
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SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
16/08/2011 22:02
Won't need 3 spinners then!

 
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AGod (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 06:41
Lancs forecast to get in 3 days of play, and ditto Warks.

Thursday a wash-out throughout the land but this pm forecast to be washed out in TA1.

We need to win the toss and field in the hope of getting some bowling points before the rain.

 
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geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 06:58
Is it our turn to set up a contrived result. TO do that I think we'd have to set the chase for Nottsbecause everyone assumes-rightly or wrongly, that our batsman can get anything and would not set a sensible total

 
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Chinaman (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 07:51
The Met Office isn't as pessimistic as you, AG - where do you get your forecasts from?

 
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Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 08:46
Anybody know what the squad is today? Once again on the morning of the match unless I have missed it there is nothing on the clubs web site.

Don’t go by who was playing for the seconds yesterday because that was a one day match and some of them could return for today if needed.
Somerset wanted a strong team yesterday because it was a Trophy match and up until yesterday the seconds hadn’t lost one, unfortunately they lost the match with one player James Regan scoring half the runs.

 
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nelliec (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 09:33
George to play according to sccc website, but no squad. Would assume the rest pick themselves today.
Weather doesn't look as bad today now ,so might get away with just a few showers.Just hope the band of rain forecast for tommorrow goes through earlier , and maybe we get some play mid afternoon tommorrow.
I wonder if Tres is too worried whether he wins the toss or not??

 
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AGod (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 09:49
Quote:
Chinaman
The Met Office isn't as pessimistic as you, AG - where do you get your forecasts from?

[www.metoffice.gov.uk]

 
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Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 09:52
Well, as the lyrics of the 'anthem' of the New York Stock Exchange tell us: -

"Wait 'Till the Sun Shines, Nellie."

 
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taung (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 10:00
Quote:
AGod
Quote:
Chinaman
The Met Office isn't as pessimistic as you, AG - where do you get your forecasts from?

[www.metoffice.gov.uk]

The weather forecasts give me optimism. Even though we will
have rain "The Weather Channel" and "Accuweather" say our rivals will have worse. Warwick in prticular have a terrible forecast for the match beginning on the 18th. This should solve the statistical problem of their game in hand over us.
Maybe we will only get three out of four days play, let us hope as it is our home game it will be a three day wicket and we have been winning in three days or less anyway.
Notts too in the last match were "blooding" new players, they have given up on the 4 dayers.

 
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AGod (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 10:55
I think you will find that Notts have given up, only on the odd opener that has been ineffective anyway. I can't see too many other new faces in their squad for this one. Not that I'm saying they still have a chance in the CC, just that it's not true that they're resting proven performers as they have given up.

 
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AGod (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 10:58
Just looked at the actual NOtts team - Turner, the new opener, is the only face that will be unfamiliar to our crowd, unless they have not seen Darren Bravo before on the TV. I think Notts have picked as strong a team as they could muster. No evidence of "quit," in the team selection.

 
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Norwich SCCC (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 11:01
Marcus loses the toss again and we have been asked to bat.

 
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Chinaman (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 11:01
As taung says, the weather forecast is not as bad as all that. Showers / dry spells, so some play will be lost, but probably not as much as 3 days out of 4?

 
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Chinaman (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 11:05
So now we know the team selection - exactly as you all predicted. Interesting that Dockrell is slated to bat below Charl - can he really be worse?

Interesting also that Notts haven't picked any of our ex-players - Wood, Edwards, Phillips. What did they hire them for?

 
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AGod (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 11:19
All of those players have been given opportunities - and all have failed. I don't think Wood is on the staff anymore.

Losing the toss a big blow. Saturday's forecast has improved but, still, the met office forecast suggests there will only be seven sessions in this match. Unless we're playing on a complete 'green mamba,' of a track then it would be very tough to force a win in only seven sessions. Realistically, it would be less difficult to do it bowling first as then there would be a chance to bundle out most of the Notts guys in this first session today.

As it is we will have to fight hard, I would imagine, just to survive and then you'd normally expect an easier time after lunch as pitch eases, ball softens etc, but there is unlikely to be much of an after lunch in this one.

 
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Kingston Black (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 11:28
Quote:
Chinaman
Interesting also that Notts haven't picked any of our ex-players - Wood, Edwards, Phillips. What did they hire them for?

Matt Wood was released by Notts at the end of last season. Not sure whether Neil Edwards has recovered from the broken wrist he sustained earlier in the year.

KB

 
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AGod (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 11:42
RSP. Let's hope forecast is wrong and this actually resumes before Friday (!)

 
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old boy! (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 11:56
With Tres and Arul failing we can now truly judge what we have got further down the order! I guess we will be looking for around 250 to be competitive - see chaps!! - positive thinking!!!

 
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Botham (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 12:01
What rotten luck with the toss and the weather. It was glorious yesterday.

 
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AGod (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 12:13
Well, in sunny weather on Friday hope to get up to 400 for full batting points. And then bowl them out once on Saturday. A max points draw but still keep us there or thereabouts, especially if the weather also leads to draws elsewhere.

I don't think we should go with a contrived game and find ourselves in the position of defending a contrived last day target.... or at least that option should be a last resort for use only if it appears likely that Lancs and Warks will win their games (hopefully they get enough rain to prevent that.)

 
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Streeter (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 12:37
Re our old boys not in Notts. I think it is worth noting the subsequent careers of those who have been let go of. Rosey often gets stick for his judgement but in my book he's pretty good. Give or take the odd Omari..............

 
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Chinaman (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 12:38
KB: Thanks for the info.

 
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Chinaman (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 12:41
Today's forecast for the SW from the Met Office:

A mainly cloudy day across the region with outbreaks of rain at times. Perhaps a few heavier bursts of rain during the morning in the west. Some brighter spells developing in the afternoon, mainly towards eastern counties. Winds remaining light. Maximum temperature 20 °C.

 
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AGod (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 12:58
Lancs, apparently, not building that imposing of a score vs Worcs, though of course one does need to wait until Worcs bat to be sure of that.

 
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Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 13:21
Hello chaps and the female kind, I have returned home to have some lunch and a drink and dry out a bit.

It would be nice to have an occasional update on the commentary, I went home before any announcements were made, did they take an early lunch is there doing to be an inspection ect??

 
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Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 13:46
South London calling TA1: Inspection at 3.00. Progress report on commentary at 2.30.



LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter

 
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AGod (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 14:14
MIke - has it stopped raining?

 
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Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 14:37
Commentators report that rain is still falling; they will come on air again after tea - which they say will be 4.40, but I would have thought should be 4.00 (though it sounds like it could be high tea and an early night for the boys).



LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter

 
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AGod (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 14:42
Well, if tomorrow's dreadful weather also materialises as forecast, then we will be resuming on Friday in what one assumes will be really damp conditions in terms of a pitch that has sweated under the covers etc.

Friday is meant to be a nice, sunny day so batting may get easier as the day wears on. But if we start badly on Friday, then it might even be worth declaring and starting to bowl in search of the three bowling points, rather than waiting until batting has become much easier - i.e. if it looks like we'll struggle to get three or more batting points.

I think we'd get away with a declaration under those cirumstances because Justin Langer got away with that kind of move at Lord's against Middx in Div Two.

 
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Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 14:48
Langer may have got away with it as far as penalties were concerned, but his decision did Somerset no favours at all and we lost the match heavily, despite a brilliant century by Hildreth in the second innings.

It seemed a gamble worth taking at the time, but it simply did not work.



LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter

 
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AGod (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 14:55
Yes, I was there as, I know, you were too.

I was shocked at the time when we walked off. When I thought about it later then I thought that, actually, if he was going to make a declaration based on that logic, then it would have been better had it been made some time before we were 8 down. Then again, perhaps he would not have got away with such a declaration i.e say at 5 down, penalty wise?

In terms of us going on to lose the match heavily on that occasion, the cirucmstances this time would be different in that there would be only one further day left in this match.

Still, Marcus seems an instinctively more conservative man and it's not a gamble I could see him taking.

 
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Norwich SCCC (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 15:25
Well they got todays weather wrong so lets hope they have done the same for tomorrow.

Very frustrating as all other games are in play.

 
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BristolRob (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 15:31
The Beeb were spot on with today's forecast.Some people look in the wrong places!



Who put the A in Trego?

 
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AGod (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 15:54
Norwich - they didn't get it far wrong. The Met Office forecast specifically for Taunton - not the generic one for the SW - had it pretty much right, except the rain arrived perhaps an hour or so early.

 
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Norwich SCCC (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 15:58
The forecast last night indicated passing showers. Lets hope they can get out again today.

 
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AGod (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 16:00
Lancs going well now too.. grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Still, I'm not sure we can complain too much, overall, given what happened to Durham's most recent game with Hants.

And we can still do a rain dance for their games for future days..

 
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Sloop John B (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 16:00
We gave up at about 3:15 with rain still falling. It is now somewhat brighter to the west of TA1 but it is still not clearing.

We may get more play today - but not much.

 
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AGod (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 16:02
No play forecast either at Taunton or Edgbaston for tomorrow. Looks like Lancs will get plenty of play at Blackpool but *might* lose Saturday. So if Worcs could bat well....

 
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Big Jim (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 16:42
It's 22 degrees something and bright sunshine here in horrible West Wales.
The sunshine isn't too far away.

 
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AGod (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 16:43
Jim - do the locals in West Wales start ringing the MoD's UFO helpline when that big yellow thing appears in the sky?

 
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Grizzzly (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 16:52
I thought you were in Watchet BJ - have I missed something ?

Grizzzly

 
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AGod (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 17:24
11 wickets down at Blackpool. Escaping from Manchester really does seem to have brought Lancs extraordinary luck with the weather this season.

 
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Wickham (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 17:39
Cricinfo suggests that (unsurprisingly) play has been abandoned for the day.

 
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Sloop John B (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 17:39
Stumps at Taunton :-(

Hope there is enough play to get a proper result.

 
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Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 17:50
What am I going to do for Photos today?

I will have a look but don't expect too many.

 
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Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 17:51
Irrespective of the weather forecast for the next few days, I personally want to see a display of guts, application and fight from our batting line - up, on a par with what Sussex has done today from being in a position of 27 - 3.

And yes, that includes everyone down to Willoughby and beyond, should he not be in at Number 11.

Our batting has rolled over like 9 - pins too often in the past.

Time to fight.

 
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nelliec (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 17:59
Worcester 21 for 5(Sm136)

 
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Norwich SCCC (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 18:04
Congratulations to Nick Compton on bringing up 1000 CC runs this season on an otherwise frustrating day.

 
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wsm fan (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 18:06
Thanks very much Worcs, think i'm right that they still have the return match in a few weeks too...

 
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old boy! (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 18:14
Lets be positive!!! Lets make sure we come third by the end of the season!!

 
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taung (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 18:22
Quote:
Norwich SCCC
Congratulations to Nick Compton on bringing up 1000 CC runs this season on an otherwise frustrating day.

It was said Compton was hired to replace Langer in the batting line up. He certainly seem to have done that and there is no reason to think we will not go on to greater things.

Well done to him.

 
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old boy! (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 18:34
The line of the forecast on the map for Thursday seems to show that the rain will only reach Hankridge (Sainsburys etc) Taunton coming from south !!!!! and will spread as far as London. Should be OK then!!

 
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Big Jim (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 19:08
Grizzz, I've been in Wales for exactly a year, the locals are very orange, and very lazy.
AG, no, not at all.
They just stop drinking the mushroom tea.

 
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Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 19:10
First day photos if you can call it a day more like thirty minutes.

http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/200/asuppiahoffthemark.jpg

This shot by Arul Suppiah gets him off the mark unfortunately he was not to get many more runs today.

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/9702/mtrescothick.jpg

Marcus Trescothick, with the few balls that we watched today it looked like ball may have been moving around, it was hard to tell from Gimblett’s Hill with the pitch so far over towards the Andy Caddick Pavilion.

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/8585/mtrescothicklbwlfletche.jpg

The ball must have done something for Marcus not to get bat on ball with a straight bat, Marcus Trescothick lbw L Fletcher.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9960/ncompton4runs.jpg

Nick Compton hitting four runs before the rain came.

 
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SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 19:48
Looks pretty green...

 
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nelliec (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 19:55
What the chances of a contrived finish if it rains all day tommorrow.Notts are pretty safe in mid table,and might just be looking at possible prize money for third or fourth.
Especially if we offered them a carrot of 280 ish on the last day?

 
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Chinaman (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 23:10
Curses! The weather gods strike! I knew things were going too swimmingly.

Well, all we have to do now is score 250 on Friday in 50 overs and then bowl them out twice inside 45 overs total. Easy-peasy.

 
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wsm fan (IP Logged)
17/08/2011 23:22
Think we'd have to dangle a very large carrot to get Notts interested in any last day chase.

As ridiculous as it may sound something like 300 off 80 i'd say would be about the required bait.

They have no incentive to accept anything challenging, we are the ones who have to push in my opinion.

Others will say play safe but in my opinion we need to take risks to win this thing, there are 4 of us in the running, we wont do this with 3 safe draws and 1 win.
Plus you dont even get chance to rig every game, so if we can do this i say do it.

I'd far rather us come 4th/5th having tried to win it than miss out by 4/5 pts having settled for 2/3 safe draws.

Anyway, premature maybe, if we can get some kind of total on the board we have chance to dictate this game properly

 
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Grizzzly (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 02:19
Well welcome to expat land BJ - hope you've got a permanent visa for Welsh Wales !

Still, I suppose you could always take a swim across the Bristol Channel if you get homesick !

All the best.

Grizzzly

 
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AGod (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 06:48
Forecast still horrific.

The legend 'No play Thursday - rain,' all but sure to hang over this game.

Lancs look strong favourites in their game.

Looks like Warks will be disrupted today and
may lose some of day 3.

 
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taung (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 10:11
Quote:
AGod
Forecast still horrific.The legend 'No play Thursday - rain,' all but sure to hang over this game.
Lancs look strong favourites in their game.
Looks like Warks will be disrupted today and
may lose some of day 3.

Whatever forecast we check it is bad for Somerset.

Who was that crackpot yesterday expounding on Southern
weather good?

But Warwick our main statistcal rival look to have same problems and there is plenty of time for the weather factor in the next month to even out. In a straight fight I beleive we are Red Hot Favourites to win the thing. I would accept going into that last Lancashire match one win behind them.

 
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AGod (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 10:25
Yes, Warks winning their game would be worse than Lancs winning theirs because we can do nothing, directly, about Warks.

I hate contrived games with declaration bowling and pre-agreed x runs in y overs targets.

If there must be a contrivance here, I'd prefer to see something along these lines;

We declare overnight.

Notts forfeit their first innings.

The only "arrangement," is this;

Somerset bat until they are all out or until Friday's play has ended, whichever occurs sooner.

On Saturday, Notts chase whatever we made on Friday.

Effectively a one innings game, although we have a 20 run head-start but this should be counterbalanced because batting should be more difficult on Friday than Saturday, given how wet the outfield will be and the fact that the pitch is likely to have sweated under the covers.

If Notts believe that batting will be much easier on Saturday than Friday, then they might, possibly, go for such an arrangement? Apart from anything else, if the pitch is still full of juice, they might fancy their chances of bowling us out for 200?

I don't want to see us having to agree to leave Notts an easy, short chase, such as 250 in 55 overs or something as the only kind of arrangement that they would agree to.

If that's the case, I'd rather say make no arrangement at all and just try and pick up as many bonus points as humanly possible. After all, the great weather roulette may spin in our favour in the next round...



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SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 10:34
AG, there's a lot can happen between now and this evening / tomorrow lunchtime / etc. I don't see any point in going into this level of detail this far out - by close of play tonight, nothing may have changed, we could be 50 all out or 250 for 2.

There's really no point in playing cricket at all if one is going to pre-determine all eventualities based on a weather forecast, teams' possible batting and bowling prowess and expected thoughts in captains' heads at any given future moment.

I'm sure Tres will have a few potential strategies in his head which will chop, change and come to fruition as this game evolves.

 
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Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 10:48
I don’t want to give anybody false hope but it has stopped raining and the clouds are higher.

I am going over to have a look and report back.

 
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AGod (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 10:51
Well, I think the overwhelming probability is that nothing will occur today, SP, hence looking at what could happen from the start of play tomorrow.

Of course, if we said to Notts that there would be a double forfeiture of innings - with our 2nd dig and their first dig being forfeited and the arrangement otherwise being the same, then I'd think Chris Read would surely go for that, simply because Tres is already out in our first dig so they'd surely back themselves to get us out on Friday for a manageable total to chase on Saturday.

 
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nelliec (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 11:01
[www.metoffice.gov.uk]
Looks like the rains just about gone through.Possibility of play mid afternoon maybe?

 
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nelliec (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 11:06
Hants put in at Edgbaston by Warks

 
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AGod (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 11:09
Worcs lost yet another wicket, immediately, at Blackpool.

If it really is the case that the rain has moved through more quickly than expected, then perhaps there is some chance that it will penetrate far further north than expected, earlier in the day? (please!)

 
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taung (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 11:19
If we went down the forfeit innings route we risk the batting points and the draw points which is too big a risk. Durham did this and ended up with just two points a disaster.

At worst at end of this match we should be one win behind
ayn other team which we can cope with. If we get vitually
no points it would be one win and quite a few points. Effectively we would need to win two more games than
that team and there is not the time to do that.

Indeed if it was not for the first two matches when
we got virtually no points we would be comfortably ahead
now. We cannot take risks. A good haul of bonus points is good, we are not plaqying "catch up" like last year. (maybe against Warwick)

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
AGod (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 11:21
At North Marine Road, Ryan Sidebottom has taken 5 for 38. His team-mates have combined to take 1 for 300+

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
Sloop John B (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 11:28
Much brighter in TA1.

Unless the overnight rain has been saturating the outfield (which I doubt) I can see play sometime after lunch.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
Chinaman (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 11:33
Fingers crossed for a let up in the weather.

AGod, you really are a weather god - unfortunately (for Somerset) you got this one bang on!

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
AGod (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 11:38
No, apparently not, Chinaman, as seems to be getting brighter.

Forecast for the first few hours of the afternoon is now brighter, though Met Office predicting that the rain will then return. So, it all depends on whether we can get it dried up quickly enough to get back on before it rains again (assuming that part of the forecast is correct.)

I imagine that the going out there will be pretty tough today if we do get out at all. I think that I might be fairly pleased if, from 20 for 2, we manage to get to 200 in this innings, so as to get one batting points.

 
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nelliec (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 11:44
inspection 1pm at start of lunch

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
Chinaman (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 11:49
The official site says the earliest play could get underway is at 1.40 pm.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 12:03
I don't need to report back others have said all the information needed.

One bright note the covers were being removed also there are no signs of any water on the outfield.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
nelliec (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 12:04
Hampshire in freefall at Warws .48 for 3 now. Oooops 48 for 4.Nooooo 48 for 5. 4 wickets for no runs



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Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
AGod (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 12:19
Disgraceful. We need to pay them back on Aug 27.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
Chinaman (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 12:25
Hants are going down, going down, going down ... (Sm103)

AG, does your crystal ball reveal any signs of rain in Brum?

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
AGod (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 12:30
It's meant to rain by mid-afternoon, I believe. However, Warks will probably be batting by then and will presumably only need two days to see off Hants.

At least Worcs have saved the follow-on. Mr Gareth Andrew did his level best to make sure that that happened. Gareth has had a pretty nice career since he moved up there.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
taung (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 12:50
Quote:
AGod
Gareth has had a pretty nice career since he moved up there.

We have closely followed and really enjoyed the success of Gareth Andrew and Wes Durston.

Not right to speculate on the rights and wrongs of their departures, but well done to two lads who tried so hard for Somerset.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
Blub (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 13:01
Without resorting to the stats I wouldn't be surprised if Gareth is their best batter this season, with the possible exception of Moeen Ali.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
JonR (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 13:06
It's raining hard in Taunton town centre now I'm afraid chaps.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
Chinaman (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 13:19
How come it's raining hard in Taunton town centre and apparently nowhere else in the UK? What is it, some kind of big nasty Somerset-hating cloud hanging over TA1?

(Sm95)

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
AGod (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 13:23
It's just the whole SW region, I would assume where it's hissing it down?

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
JonR (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 13:27
It's stopped now thankfully, but that was another good half hour drenching!

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 13:48
Has been lashing down all day so far in Swindon...must get to Brum soon - and just reached the Oval.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
Scrumper (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 13:48
Other site says we're 20 without loss (Sm13)

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
Chinaman (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 14:03
At least the Taunton forecast now looks good for Friday AND Saturday. Now if we can just get a few hours play in today ...

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
Chinaman (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 14:05
Further inspection at 3pm, apparently.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
AGod (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 14:49
Is it still dry down there at the moment?

Apparently, no further rain is now forecast so if it's not raining currently and none is forecast, then perhaps we can get one session in after tea meaning, effectively, that this will be seven session contest.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
JonR (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 15:13
Yep, it's still dry but the skies are a little grey.

The pavements in town are drying out nicely though, so hopefully the same is happening to the outfield.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
Sloop John B (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 15:16
Dry at the moment but the clouds are still about.

Less optomistic than I was about play today :-(

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
AGod (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 15:19
Nobody appears to have bothered to update the club site. Not sure if that's a bad sign? I'd have thought they'd have something to say about the 3pm inspection. It sounds like there was no further rain since that inspection was announced, so it should, presumably, have occurred.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
Chinaman (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 15:21
AG, the site now says they will take a further look at 4pm.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
nelliec (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 15:32
I dont honestly think we'll have much to gain by going out and batting for an hour or so tonight.Could perhaps end up 80-6 or something like that ,and have no chance of batting points,or doing an arrangement with Notts.With a fine forecast tommorrow would rather see us bat to 350 if possible, and then see what happens from there!

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
AGod (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 15:49
Well, that thought had occurred to me. On the other hand, a slippery ball might mean things are not straightforward for either bowlers or fielders either?

If we got out for an hour or so, I think the realistic best case scenario though would be only about 80 or so for 4 or something, though.

Still if we were 80 for 4 overnight, then with a really strong effort from the second half of the order we might still manage to scrape up to 300 or something on Friday?

The minimum that we need to set our sights on here is surely six points i.e three for the draw and all three bowling points. That is, surely, the minimum that we SHOULD get from this game. If we could get 2-3 batting points as well, I think that would be a decent job of salvaging a bad situation.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
NW5Somerset (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 16:02
Any update on likely play today?

Terrible communication from the club to be honest

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
Chinaman (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 16:04
The umpires are having a look at 4pm. Which is about now.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
nelliec (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 16:06
Thick heavy drizzle again.Think thats it for the day

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
AGod (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 16:18
Christ, what an awful island this can be. Absolutely disgusting weather here in the SE now, as well.

Can we just not find a floatilla of giant tugs to toe this island a good 1000 miles or so SW of its current location?



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Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 16:19
No play today.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 16:21
Cricinfo says no play today; I am (selfishly) relieved I did not book myself into a Somerset bed and breakfast this week.



LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
Grizzzly (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 16:21
Bad news re the weather chaps. No consolation that it's been beautiful & sunny over here for the last week or so.

Rats...!

Grizzzly

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
AGod (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 16:34
And they've now changed Saturday's forecast back to rain as well.

So a nice sunny day tomorrow. I assume it will start on time and hope so as I've booked to go down to see it. Wouldn't normally bother with going to a game all but nailed on to be a draw but I suppose the bonus points could be ultimately important and have not had the chance to get down to HQ all summer, so going to give it a go and hope that Saturday's forecast is wrong and that we can deliver a near miraculous performance to still win this match.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
AGod (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 16:37
Warwickshire struggling a little. But I reckon Woakes will get in tomorrow and do enough to give them a comfortable lead. Actually hoping the rain holds off at Birmingham now, given that Warks seem to be finding it tough at the minute.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
taung (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 16:50
So it is just bonus points for us from this match. Notts I believe will not offer a contrived finish. They have no reason to and they have not been pleased with us recently anyway.

There is a chance Lancashire and Warwicks matches will be affected by weather or that they do not win. In which case, no damage is done.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
AGod (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 17:13
On the other hand, Notts do not necessarily have much to lose from a contrived finish either?

If they are really narked with us (and I cannot see why they would be given that Kartik has proved to be genuinely injured) then maybe they'll take it on in the hope of beating us and, thereby, almost putting us out of contention?

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
Sloop John B (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 17:22
I think Newell should be eating a portion of humble pie for his comments on Kartik. His injury was very real and his misjudged comments were a slight on the club as a whole.

Not sure Tres would be ready to offer a deal on this - not in his nature.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 17:34
Does one detect a whiff of schadenfreude on Riverside this evening, after posters on this site rubbed their hands in glee last week at Durham`s misfortune with the weather.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
nelliec (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 18:13
[www.espncricinfo.com]
Brian doesn't seem at all happy with the drainage according to his interview today

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
taung (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 18:50
Quote:
cricketjerry-mouse
Does one detect a whiff of schadenfreude on Riverside this evening, after posters on this site rubbed their hands in glee last week at Durham`s misfortune with the weather.

This is fair comment.

Last week Durham only got two points, this week we have bad
luck with the weather and drainage. Hopefully we will get a lot more than two points.

Three games after this, two at home. Two or three wins can still make Somerset champions.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
wsm fan (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 19:02
He quotes "our head groundsman Simon Lee" i thought we were not allowed a head groundsman?

Has that period lapsed that we are now allowed to address him as what he's always been anyway.

As frustrating as the last 2 days rain have been i struggle to agree with B Roses views that we have been 2nd worst hit.

I believe we have so far had 5 home championship games, 4 of which we have won, some in less than 4 days and with weather interuptions, and 1 absolute hammering from Warwickshire.

Clearly this game looks likely to end in a draw but compared to previous seasons i think from 6 home games we'd have bitten anyones hand off for 4 wins, 1 draw and 1 loss???

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
Norwich SCCC (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 19:15
Can we not get any financial assistance for drainage?

Richard Gould was interviewed yesterday on Sky regarding The Oval and he stated that the ECB provided £75K for works there.

Or is it just the test grounds that are eligible for this?

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
Grockle (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 19:20
Simon was eligible to be called the Head bod from a long time ago and definitely after the Frosty case had been settled.

The post they made Phil redundant from could have been re-introduced within a 3 or 6 month period anyway.



(Sm72)

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
Grizzzly (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 19:31
Maybe he should be called 'least junior Groundsman' !

Grizzzly

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
wsm fan (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 19:31
I see, thanks for that.

Is another issue we have not the quantity of groundstaff?

As a rule we seem to have 3 for championship games, yet Monday we had 6, was this purely because it was on tv?

I know there is a limited amount that can be done when it rains but BR's issue seemed to be with the drainage, would we not be better off with more groundstaff to aid the mopping up when it becomes possible?

Sure there are a number of staff/helpers who could be rounded up if they were given the righy instruction.

Lets hope the ground work starting on Friday 16th Sept has desired effect this year!

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
AGod (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 19:38
This is the first I have ever heard of a purported 'drainage problem,' at Taunton.

I was under the impression that we had a reputation as a quick drying ground?

Perhaps the problem is more related to the outfield than the drainage per se?

Has anyone else heard these sort of complaints about drainage on our ground prior to this season?

P.s. Norwich - I think any county can be given a drainage grant but it's a competitive process. I've a feeling that Worcs were given one but then as a frequently flooded ground, I would suggest that New Road would genuinely have a greater need than Taunton.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 19:45
I don’t remember seeing six on Monday! I am willing to be told differently.

There was the normal three, Simon, Martin and Dan plus Rob from the Taunton Vale Ground.

Normally it is the first three as in this match to pull those heavy wet sheets around.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
AGod (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 19:46
I looked this up and according to a cricinfo article dated Feb 2008, the ECB has a massive wad of cash which will be used to 'install floodlighting at every County HQ ground and improve drainage at all international venues, with subsequent roll-out to all Counties.'

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 19:49
I thought that I remembered something written on here about the ECB granting money (or not) to Counties for drainage works to their grounds.

I uncovered this from the ‘Taunton AGM’ thread from last November, whence Grockle reported that Richard Gould had said : -

“We are very pleased with the wicket this year and the team this year did a great job (as, Richard pointed out, did Frosty for a number of years). We were the fourth or fifth pitch in England. The outfield should be better next year as well after the work on drainage this winter. It won't be completely flat but it will be less 'bobbly'. We got no grant for drainage even though the ECB has done that for every international ground (about £800K each).”

The fact that we are not a Test Match, or a ground yet accorded One Day Internationals (and let’s face it there are ten of them), may be what Brian Rose was alluding to.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
wsm fan (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 19:51
I may be wrong but im sure that at one point 3 covers were being wheeled off at once with 2 pushing each one, i may have got it wrong.

Clearly there's a balance of not wanting to have too many paid when often not needed but if its drying up which is part of the problem then would more bodies not help, i apprecaite only so much that can be done after large amounts of rain

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
Norwich SCCC (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 19:54
Cheers AG. Yes, I would not begrudge New Road a grant given the recent problems there.

Marcus alluded to the onset of the problems being as a result of the recent develoment of the ground and it is clear a long term solution is needed.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
AGod (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 19:54
Yes that's clearly what Brian meant.

If the intentions expressed by the ECB in 2008 are still 'current,' then roll-out to the non international counties should, presumably, be imminent?

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 19:55
AG, you are correct Taunton has always been known as a good draining ground, even today there was no water to be seen lying on the outfield.

When the flats were built it was thought they may cause a problem but there is a drainage channel built along the bottom of the Somerset stand that takes the water away that runs down the stand.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
AGod (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 20:03
Did Marcus suggest that the grass seed for the outfield not taking was affected by the new building?

If the ground today was deemed too muddy for a resumption then that is presumably a direct consequence of poor sodding?

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 20:34
Wsm fan, I had a look at the record and you were correct in one respect they did have some extra help with the covers, it looked to me like it was from some of the Sky people who always make sure the advertising boards are correct, they are normally friendly and helpful.

I was in the groundsman area at the scheduled start time before the match got underway when the covers were taken off then put on again with only the four of them going it.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
Grockle (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 21:05
The outground is a bit of a mess and if it's supposed to be less 'bobbly' then I think something went a bit pear shaped.

Most people I've talked to expect some remedial work to be done over the off season to deal with a number of issues around the edges.



(Sm72)

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
old boy! (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 21:19
I can't remember the CC match involved last season, but I am sure there was the lose of at least one days play (and probably more) because the water couldn't get away. The Trescothick Stand having been built on the escape route.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 21:21
Yes Grockle I should imagine it will be re-seeded again and this time I would think the ground staff will do it themselves.

They do have a machine to do it.

I have read that article on cricinfo and I could comment on a lot that was said, the only point I will make is even with extra drainage in I don't think we would have got anymore over played in the last two days.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 21:59
Sometime it is very interesting to read some of the old threads, we discussed the outfield work when it was done.

One page I found interesting to read from us was on the “GROUND REDEVELOPMENT 2010” thread – link - [www.cricketnetwork.co.uk] reading page 43 reminded me what was said at the time.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 22:01
wsm fan: Rose talks about "excellent groundsman Simon Lee", not "head groundsman".

Also, the 2nd worst rainfall after Lancs wasn't about play lost this season, but about weather patterns in general, I think.

From when I used to regularly go to Taunton in the 70s and 80s, I seem to recall it being talked about as not draining very well because of the proximity of the river and the high water table.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
Big Jim (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 22:06
I think we should offer the Nottinghamshire boys a load of leather jackets and a free ride on the WSR if they let us have this one.
Anyone got a spare jacket they want to donate to the cause?
I've got a parka, it's a bit grubby, but hey ho, they are Northerners after all.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
Grockle (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 22:10
Don't open the Northern can of worms BJ.

They aren't anyway. They are Midlanders



(Sm72)

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
Big Jim (IP Logged)
18/08/2011 22:14
Midlanders...even better, my parka is safe.
I'll just dig my Pakamac out of the cupboard.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
old boy! (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 08:21
8.15 TA1 Hardly a cloud in sight - bring your sun cream!!!

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
nelliec (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 08:23
What a difference a day makes!!!

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 08:55
nelliec, I could almost hear you singing that.

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 10:54
Prompt start?

 
Re: Notts ,Notts and more Notts
Grockle (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 11:05
Yep they are on the pitch and playing in sunshine!



(Sm72)

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Grockle (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 11:26
Commentary team for this game (though you won't have heard much from the first two day guys I would imagine)

Day One
1- Paul Harper and Julian Cattenach.
2- John Hamlin and Ben Manning.
3- Eric Cole and Paul Bird.

Day Two
1- Bill Luckett and Tom Doyle.
2- Paul Harper and Chris Stone.
3- Roy Kerslake and John Hamlin.

Day Three
1- Paul Harper and John Hamlin.
2- Brian Harris and Eric Cole.
3- Roy Kerslake and Paul Bird.

Day Four
1- Brian Harris and Julian Cattenach.
2- John Hamlin and Paul Bird.
3- Roy Kerslake and Eric Cole



(Sm72)

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Grockle (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 14:00
And Pete flips one - off the glove says the umpire and off the trousers if you ask Pete.

137 for 6....bonus points looking as rare as rocking horse droppings.



(Sm72)

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Grockle (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 14:02
And now Jos sees his off stump removed by Adams...147 for 7. George in for his first Championship innings.



(Sm72)

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 14:08
Need to declare now. Go for the 3 bowling points as not going to get any more than 1 batting point and washout forecast tomorrow.

It's been a very strange day with very little playing and missing yet, somehow we've lost 5 wkts.

I was surprised that Pete was given out but three of the other batsmen to fall were beaten all ends up, all by Adams.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
taung (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 14:14
Not encouraging today.

But as we are only now playing for bonus points and there
will be rain tomorrow it is important to get enough time
in Notts innings for us to get full bowling points.

That will limit any damage.

Before the three consecutive wins we would not have
believed the position we are in now.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 14:15
Raining now anyway. What horrible weather this game has had.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Grockle (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 14:18
And now the off stump of Alf has gone the way of many before him to the same bowler!! 154 for 8.



(Sm72)

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 14:19
And still batting on even with Alf out. Simply cannot understand the thinking.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Grockle (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 14:24
One little point of order it seems.

This is George's Somerset first class but but not his actual first class debut because he has played 3 times for Ireland in the intercontinental cup against the Netherlands, Canada and Zimbabwe.



(Sm72)

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
taung (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 14:35
It is good to see BCR has not lost hope :-

"....but then matches in Somerset have been completed in a day, as anyone who saw Bertie Buse's benefit match in Bath will remember."

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 14:38
George rather looks as though he belongs out there.

To be fair, Kirby has played nicely too.

But, still, unless we've got our own weather forecasters who are confident of a full day tomorrow, we need to get on with taking 9 wkts!?

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Big Jim (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 14:43
No need to declare, mun.
Bat on till we're all out.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
taung (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 14:53
getting fed up with this Adams,

6-33 today after the two vital wickets
in the 11-3.

At least we can stop worrying about any
declaration and should have time for
the full amount of bowling points.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 14:58
Bright sunshine now. I hope to see Dockrell today but would not necessarily put money on it.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 15:07
Hildreth and Buttler looked good, but Hales looks regal so far.

Kirby has just induced what, by my reckoning, was the first genuine outside edge of the entire day.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Grockle (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 15:10
Well we don't seem to have the inswinger working for us as Hales and Turner move to 32 off the first 4 overs of their innings.



(Sm72)

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Grockle (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 15:14
Did someone look at how effective we were with the new ball earlier in the season?

We really haven't been effective in the first ten overs of an innings very often if at all have we?



(Sm72)

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 15:21
No. Though it's been a bigger problem away from HQ.

Not surprised that Charl was quickly changed.

I now think that, perhaps, I will get to see Dockrell today!

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Botham (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 15:26
We've really missed a Caddick type strike bowler. We seem to be innocuous, so it suggests that we've done really well in the second innings.

Maybe Notts have better conditions, but are beginning to look like chumps!

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
rodders12 (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 15:27
How can we make batting look so difficult and then go for 7 an over without a wicket in the first six overs of their innings.

Forget the Championship title - it just aint gonna happen and our inconsistency with bat and ball deserve just that.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 15:27
Is that Rob Turner I see before me!?

Quite brilliant from Craig, superb!

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 15:37
Nah, much better - Trevor Gard.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Grockle (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 15:38
Well our first two faced drizzle and poor light on Wednesday Rodders when facing their first 6 overs and Hales went at 51.

Bit too early to write off the CC1 because of a heavily rain affected match after a three match winning streak put us back in contention. The batting came up against Andre Adams getting his wicket taking ball working from one end - he has been taking a few with it this year.

Would Marcus and Arul have struggled in the present sunny and pleasant conditions? I would humbly suggest not really.

Will this game put a dent in our progress? Probably, but it will be the weather that is primarily to blame rather than a poor Somerset performance.



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Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 16:06
The seconds crushed Hants.

We've induced three bonafide outside edges from Turner, three more than Notts produced all day, but we've yet to find anyone to bowl at the stumps as well as Adams.

Still think Kirby and Alf have been decent, though. Charl was moribund, to say the least.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Grockle (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 16:11
After Tea commentary....if anyone is listening to the commentary online after Tea can they please give me an assessment of the quality etc of it because they think they had technical problems today but I'm not sure what they were.

I'll endeavour to sort them while Roy keeps you entertained if that is the case.

Thanks



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Re: Notts - A complete washout?
rodders12 (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 16:20
Sorry Grockle but without wishing to be over negative ( I would suggest more realistic ) just looking at today we went for 157 for 8. As at tea they are 67 for 1.

To me that is not entirely down to the weather.

I would call that a poor batting performance even allowing for Adams bowling well.

We must agree to disagree I guess !

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Grockle (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 16:23
Good bowling rather more than poor batting I'm afraid Rodders.

As just confirmed by an ex Somerset captain on commentary so yes we will have to agree to disagree...

Just don't put too much into a morning of cricket in a pretty destroyed game ay?



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Re: Notts - A complete washout?
rodders12 (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 17:06
" Pretty destroyed game " I agree.

There are however these things called bonus points of which in this match we are going to get precious few.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Grockle (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 17:11
Yep - no argument we haven't got what we wanted. Them's the breaks sometimes.

However the general assessment at the ground is not entirely the one you put forward earlier that is all.

This pitch is becoming benign I'm afraid and Patel and Bravo don't look in any kind of problems.

Dockrell coming on at the River to see what he can do.



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Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Chinaman (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 17:13
Great experience for George. It can only be good for the future, whatever the outcome today.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
taung (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 17:17
Somerset achieving much in bowling but will probably
still get two or three bowling points.

Lancashire's match is turning against them with
Worcs 154-2. Hants fighting back nearly back to
parity with only 2 wkts down and rain coming on Saturday.

It could be little damage done after this match.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
taung (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 17:20
Quote:
taung
Somerset achieving much in bowling but will

Sorry that should read "not achieving much"

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 17:31
Magnificent again from Craig and due reward for Kirby. We have a point!

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 17:58
Are Willoughby's figures deceptive of the way in which he has bowled today?

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Chinaman (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 18:24
Yes, both Hants and Worcs are still fighting. So we'll see. Much clearly depends on the weather gods' allocation of rain tomorrow.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 18:28
Well, George's debut was promising - especially the first half of his spell. He beat Patel outside off and did him in the flight with one that Patel skied and Alf should probably have caught.

Only Charl really was below par with the ball. Adams the difference today, with bells on.

Hope we get a bit of play tomorrow and one more point, at least.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
old boy! (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 19:31
In our opening bowlers favour, they rarely bowl any long hops that are hooked or pulled, or square cut. HOWEVER the number of half volleys that disappear to the boundary are frightening. They clearly weren't taking note of Fletcher, Shriek and particularly Adams who bowled brilliantly on perfect lengths with the expected results. It would be interesting to check how many opponents have got off to flying starts this season in the CC before we have manged to get the first few wickets. Luckily we have Tres to do that flying start for us normally, but when he fails?

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 20:38
Still think it was a strange day. Each of Compton, Hildreth, Kieswetter and Buttler looked comfortable, with no real playing and missing, let alone nicks, and then all were abruptly out in comprehensive fashion.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 21:00
Finally some photos to show you from day three.

Unfortunately they are mainly Somerset’s wickets.

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/4051/athomas4runs.jpg

I will start with a positive photo of Alfonso Thomas hitting a classy 4 runs.

http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/2205/gdockrellfirstrun.jpg

I had to show George Dockrell’s first first class runs for Somerset.

Now for those who only like good news posted and there are a few look no further.

[http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1875/athomasbldaadams.jpg

All the Somerset batsmen who were bowled were well and truly bowled.
I start with A Thomas bowled by A Adams.

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8295/ckieswetterbldcshreck.jpg

Next Craig Kieswetter bowled by C Shreck.

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/3315/cwilloughbybldaadams.jpg

I don’t know if anybody else noticed today that Charl Willoughby tried not to stand on the square leg umpires foot, it didn’t make a lot of difference after A Adams bowled two or three balls wide of the off stump that he missed Adams decided to bowl one at the stumps.

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/2495/jhidrethbldaadams.jpg

Sorry about all these Somerset wickets, I finish with James Hildreth also bowled by A Adams.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 21:15
I think the usual phrase when a batsman's bat is not as close to his pad as it should be is that you could drive a bus through the gap. Looking at the photo of Charl, you could park a bus length-ways in that gap!

PS I know I'm seen as one of the good-news-only brigade - it's not that I mind bad news, it's that one or two posters ONLY come on when the team's havd a bad day or match - and then seem to revel in it. I really don't mind people being critical - I am sometimes - it's the one or two who would claim to be supporters, but seem to enjoy carping when things are going badly. I love you all really, honestly! smiling smiley

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 21:16
I remember that four by Alf, Mike.

It's an extraordinary position that Alf has got his right leg. It looks like a picture of 'the awful moment that Alf suffered a nasty leg injury,' but, thankfully it was not.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Sloop John B (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 21:35
I got there with a few drops of rain falling and overcast conditions. Our two batters Kirbs and George hit some nice shots and didn't look hugely troubled. When George and C harl got out and Notts came out to bat so did the Bl**dy Sun.

The weather has been taking the Urine in this match!!!

Hope we can proceed to get some more bowling points tomorrow but the weather is likely to win again :-(

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 21:40
Marcus distinctly unimpressed with the batting today, so I can only surmise that at least some of the Adams wicket taking balls must not have come in that much. Because other than guys being bowled there wasn't anything obvious to complain about ie we did not have batsmen getting themselves out with wild yahoos so I assume Marcus feels that some of our guys played around straightish ones to be bowled.

I do think Craig will be disappointed with his dismissal as it looked a somewhat lackadaisical defensive shot with a big gate. He can certainly be proud of the way he kept, though.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 21:54
Paul I wasn’t having a go at anybody in particular with that remark well not you anyway; it was more to do with not having enough photos showing Somerset doing well with the ball.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
BristolRob (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 21:54
The BBC weather forecast looks favourable for tomorrow.We certainly kopped the worst of the weather today.
Still points to play for,and forecast says white clouds all day.



Who put the A in Trego?

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 21:54
There have been too many 'bad days at the office' this year, it would appear.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 21:58
Still, not as many as 14 or 15 other counties, eh CP!

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
wsm fan (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 22:28
Forecast i saw appear rain around all morning and up until 1-2pm, may be lucky (depending on your view of how things may go) and avoid it but appears very unlucky to be a full days play...

Marcus seemed to think similar based on his comments on main site

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
BristolRob (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 22:32
Which forecast was that wsm fan?
Met office say similar to Beeb.



Edited to add last sentence.



Who put the A in Trego?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011:08:19:22:36:53 by BristolRob .

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Grockle (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 22:36
According to the weather page linked here there is a 100% chance of rain from 1:00 which decreases to 97% by 6 o'clock tomorrow afternoon so I wouldn't concrete your plans for the second and third sessions.

Adams found conditions perfect for his type of bowling and got his one that moves in working very well. I think MT may have had a case for criticising later batsmen because it was pretty obvious that he was the danger man but people kept geting out to him.

Craig was Shreck's and that was a bit loose as AG says.

Andre Adams' good day at the office was indeed the difference along with some much better weather conditions for the Notts batsmen.



(Sm72)

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
wsm fan (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 22:47
On the bbc 24 hour one, but using the rain radar at the foot of that page it seems to contradict the 3 hourly pictures used above.

Guess upshot is there is rain about coming up from Cornwall Devon, we are likely to get some of it but may be lucky/unlucky and have it miss.

As always best idea is probably open the curtains in the morning and judge it then, one gust if wind over night and it may all change, who knows, weather forecasters never seem to.....

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
BristolRob (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 22:59
You could be right there wsm fan.The Beeb have changed there's to light rain at 1000.
If I open the curtains and look from here I'm sure to get a different outlook.
It amazes me how individual forecasts differ so much.



Who put the A in Trego?

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
cricketjerry-mouse (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 23:45
I`ve rarely seen a better analysis of the attitude of the bad news brigade than SP`s earlier today.

As he so rightly says, posters can and do handle bad news. A minority, however, only deign to put their heads above the parapet when the team has had a bad day or match - and then `seem to revel in it,` as SP states.

They know who they are. What is particularly depressing, though, is that those doing the `revelling` often attach the addendum that they are `life-long supporters`.

Obviously not so `life-long` as to remember the laughing stock days,

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Big Jim (IP Logged)
19/08/2011 23:55
Aye, the laughing stock days, the very words I used earlier in the week.
I often struggle to understand why some people bother to support a side, I personally find them and their bitter outlook quite sad.....but great entertainment as well, their words of doom and gloom are already things of legend on Gimblett hill.
It's an odd old world, you can almost feel their resentmnet when we're doing well, but then, when things are a bit wobbly....it's like Christmas day for them.
Long may it continue, innit.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
wsm fan (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 00:14
As Marcus said this week, every other of 17 counties would swap places with us, as in challenging on all fronts come 3rd week of August.

Interesting what i've heard from several 'supporters' recently is that several dont seem prepared to come if it seems things arent going well.

We may have short memories but 5/6 years ago we were nothing like the force we are currently.
If people only come if we win then given nature of cycles when this current good one ends will nobody come anymore.

For example tomorrow, we clearly cant win, does that mean nobody will go? Surely 'supporters' go regardless, in one respect if we get 9 wickets and survive for a draw those 6 points could be crucial come the last week.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Grockle (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 00:21
But come on one and all...it gives you something to type about.

What makes me smile is that this thread generated 7 and a half pages of comment when there was no cricket at all over two days and then struggled to get off the 8th page when there actually was something to talk about.

It's a strange old world in which we live... :-)



(Sm72)

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Grizzzly (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 01:00
Great pics again Mike, even if they show our batsmen (I refuse to use that silly word "batters" !) in slightly exposed situations.

I reckon Charl should have his bat taped vertically to his lower body when he goes out to bat. The draught going through that gap must be dreadful !!

Grizzzly

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Scrumper (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 01:12
So close but yet so far again every year...

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
BristolRob (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 04:48
I've taken your advise wsm fan,got up and drawn back the curtains and decided bad light will stop play!
"Hold on a minute"says I,glancing at my watch,'tis only 445.
Ah well the Beeb still says white cloud all day.

Not much cricket left this season and the winter is a very long time without it,so I'll go along regardless.
Can't think of any other reason for going.



Who put the A in Trego?

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 08:45
It was a pretty good crowd yesterday.

I was pondering, though, that old conundrum, crowd wise, of the fact that most people are at work for most of the duration of each CC game.

I was wondering if, during the lightest periods of the summer there would be any mileage in starting games later, so as to be able to sell discounted tickets to an after-work brigade? Say from mid-May to mid-July could start games at 1.15 or so, aiming to play to say 9.15, rather than 6.30? Would many in Taunton come down for the final 3-4 hours of play?

Obviously, I know the T20 has to be played but there would be 8 weeks in the above time-frame, which could allow 4 or 5 CC rounds, as well as 3 weeks worth of T20.

Would this help to square the circle in terms of the idea that T20 is meant to convert new people to cricket but, if they are an after work crowd, there isn't actually anything else for them to see at an equivalent time, outside of T20?

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 08:52
As for the forecast for this weekend - both days - it's a low confidence forecast. Every Beeb forecast for the wkend that I have heard has been prefaced with 'it's's a very uncertain picture this weekend, but what we think will happen....'

In other words, they wouldn't exactly be defending this weekend's forecasts with their lives!

For reasons best known to himself, my dad actually complained to the Met Office about their forecast for last weekend which had predicted lots of rain all afternoon on Saturday (It was actually a nice sunny afternoon.)

They did reply. They said 'as well as looking at our site, you should rely on your own intuition and life experience.'

In other words, look out of the window and if it looks much different to what we said it is going to do, disregard everything we said..

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Grockle (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 08:54
Very dull and damp at Bicknoller Towers at 8:30



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Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 08:59
Oh dear. Met Office hourly forecast basically implying a full day's play still.

You never know, the CC title could yet hang on whether we get to pick up these final two bowling points..

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 09:10
It is funny how my comment that was not meant to be serious at the time has generated a few posts; I agree that posters should be balanced in their posts both negative and positive the ones that only see the negative side are still entitled to their views, it also works both ways there are a few that are the opposite.

A balanced view is what’s needed, I know of several people that will not register on here so they can post because of those who criticize others views.

I am a sad person I will be watching today's cricket and enjoying it.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
wsm fan (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 09:11
Any accurate weather update from TA1 postcode as yet?

Thick cloud since 8am in WSM, if that has any relevance...

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 09:25
wsm fan, the best I can say is if it was 11 o/clock play would start. the clouds are high no rain since 8am.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
wsm fan (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 09:31
Thanks for that, think it seems cloud is best we can hope for up until early afternoon, then signs it may brighten up.

Guess current conditions may be of use for us to get the 6 wickets we need.

Wouldnt fancy us having to bat for too long today, onr of those scenarios where we have nothing to gain, if they are positive then thet should be looking for a 200 lead give or take by lunch, we could have 55-60 overs to bat if there's a full day...

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Bobstan (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 09:57
Golly-gee, Mike. If people think posters are over-critical of others' views on here they would be astonished at the ill-mannered invective on some football boards. The Queen of the South board is usually a notable exception.

Here it is still fairly 'gentlemanly' most of the time, and long may it continue.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 09:57
Quote:
cricketjerry-mouse

They know who they are. What is particularly depressing, though, is that those doing the `revelling` often attach the addendum that they are `life-long supporters`.

Obviously not so `life-long` as to remember the laughing stock days,

When, in your opinion, were the days that Somerset CCC was a "laughing stock", Jerry?

I personally do not recall that we were considered to be a "laughing stock" during the 1950's - a decade in which Somerset finished in bottom place of the County Championship for four consecutive seasons.

True, we were a poor club, both financially, and as a consequence on the field as well, but we were never considered to be a laughing stock.

The days when Somerset could justifiably be labelled with that term (and I had heard it used by the players and officials of our opponents at the time) were 1985 and 1986.

With Botham (Captain in 1985), Richards and Garner all in the side, we finished bottom and one - from - bottom respectively.

There was a lot wrong both on, and even more so, off the field. In an era, which many people still regard as being a part of “the glory years”, we had sunk to the very bottom of the pit. There were some around at the time who blamed “player power” as being the root cause, and the divisions amongst members were very deep – rooted, and up to a point still are, even after the passing of 25 years.

The backlash was enormous, and as most of us know there was an abrasive special general meeting at Shepton Mallet. Most of those who attended were not only current members, but “life – long supporters” as well, but they “put their heads above the parapet” and voted in favour of the committee’s decision – and thank goodness in my opinion they did.

Yes, we were a “laughing stock” then, and I hope that I never again have to witness such an experience; but perhaps, Jerry, you recall a different era when we assumed that unfortunate tag.

I shall be interested to know, but doubt that I ever will.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 10:33
Well, Bobstan, I would guess that some folks would look at substance over style I.e. One can be extremely damning, if one so chooses, whilst displaying quite exemplary manners.

I imagine the Queen of the South that resides in Buck House sometimes uses such methods in dealing with her rabble .. 'er, sorry, 'family.'

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
samaithai2 (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 10:46
Good job you didn't say that about the Thai royal family A GOD.
They would put you in the monkey house for twenty years.

Smiley here if i knew how to do it.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Wickham (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 10:59
Does the monkey house have wifi?

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 11:02
So, how bad is today's rain?

I'm not sure I can recall too many days like this of days where rain arrives in the SW and just seems to get stuck there. This happened on Wed too - rain in the SW which never progressed anywhere else. Very frustrating.

It's not so bad when it sweeps across the country from left to right because at least we usually then get play later on and other Counties also get rained off.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
old boy! (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 11:10
CP
As one of those 'life-long supporters' I was one who voted for the Committee at Shepton Mallet. You rightly point to the hideous 'player power' which encapsulated ITB's period 'in charge'. May we never return to those awful days when personality was everything, and results? - who cared! If he was playing today I would still travel to see ITB play, whether it was batting, bowling or fielding, and also his WI colleagues - but playing please under a less self-serving captain.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Sloop John B (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 11:17
Not raining in TA1 as I type but plenty of lowish cloud and I suspect it will be an on/off day at HQ.

Voting with my bum today and am watching Ian Bell continue his marathon innings against India.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Clarence Parker (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 11:23
I too was at Shepton Mallet, along with a couple of thousand others, and voted the same way as you old boy!

Indeed, may those dark days never return to our beloved club again.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 11:34
Just cannot be bothered to watch India bowl to England. Will switch it on when India bat to see if they have any stomach for it at all.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
rodders12 (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 11:36
Start delayed ( again ).

Lancs on the brink of victory.

Warwicks well held up by Hants.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
wsm fan (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 11:37
Need to get out here later and get these 9 wickets.

Worcs 218-8 chasing 329 so table is going to not look very nice come 6pm tonight i fear, really need Hamps to show some fight v Warwicks or it will be nearly all over for us i suggest.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
wsm fan (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 11:40
Play was to start at 11.45 having lost 12 overs but heavy rain shower means that will not now happen...

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 11:40
Hants not doing badly at all now.

Worcs score slightly deceptive in that I think they sent in two night watchmen, both of whom were dismissed this morning.

Mr Andrew our last hope in that game, I would think.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
taung (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 11:49
Quote:
wsm fan
Worcs 218-8 chasing 329 so table is going to not look very nice come 6pm tonight i fear, really need Hamps to show some fight v Warwicks or it will be nearly all over for us i suggest.

Hants are fighting back well, effectively 111 - 4. Getting 200 in the 4th innings could be a problem.

I think the chances Warwick will win their match next week are slim. Away at Yorkshire, with a bad forecast and probably the biggest problem, their only real strike bowler Woakes will be absent playing representative cricket.

One win behind Lancs is no problem even if it goes to last match of season at Taunton.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Bobstan (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 11:49
A God, I didn't know that the Queen of Sheba had a London residence.

QotS is, as I'm sure everyone knows, The Only Team in the Bible, which is the name of their website.

This post does make sense.
Oh yes it does.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
nelliec (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 11:53
Durham will be without Borthwick, Onions and stokes and Warks without Woakes for next week's games due to their one day call up.Good news for us especially with woakes missing for warwickshire up at yorkshire

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
wsm fan (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 11:56
Yes i agree, if Hamps can get that lead over 200 they have a real chance.
I agree not all over but with a big gap created we'll probably have to win all 3 as others sure to win some games and we can't effect results other than last v Lancs.

Not giving up at all but after this round it's going to be very tough.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 11:57
I am back home.

Play was due to start at 11.50 after the umpires looked at it the covers were almost off when the rains came again and this time very hard, I would imagine water may have got on the square before the covers were put on, the pitch should be ok.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Norwich SCCC (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 11:58
Another frustrating morning. It is imperative that Warwicks don't win but as long as we can stay within striking distance of Lancs there is always hope.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 12:19
I don't share the analysis that Hants might win with a 200 lead. Scorecard suggests it is getting flatter there. But it's possible that Hants could get a lead closer to 300 and then if there's a bit of weather around, perhaps it could still be a draw?

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 13:30
Raining at Edgbaston.

Is it still raining in TA1?

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Grockle (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 13:45
If no more rain play will restart at 2:15. Looks promising....ish



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Re: Notts - A complete washout?
SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 13:53
Woakes' figures interesting: 7-20 in first innings, 0-69 in the second. After top-scoring with 64, maybe he feels it's time for somebody else to step up.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 14:35
We're back on - but so are Hants and Warks.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 14:39
Everything suggests it's very flat at Edgbaston. Draw hopefully an increasing possibility.

BobStan - Good news for you - Northants all but certain of promotion now, especially with Middx set for a heavy defeat at Canterbury.

Now, could we have some wickets in TA1, please?

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 15:19
Seems as though we are going around the park?

Has Marcus set ultra-attacking fields?

He might as well because 500 for 9 would be a better score for us than 380 for 7!

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
BristolRob (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 15:24
I'm at home now.Should have stayed even though it was raining when I left.

Commentary is very quiet Grockle and yes tea is always 1540 on last day.



Who put the A in Trego?

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 15:30
That was just over 100 scored in ten overs before Patel was out ... and now Mullaney. GD on a hat trick.



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Re: Notts - A complete washout?
wsm fan (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 15:33
Well done George, first 2 wickets of many, 324-5

4 more wickets and job done for the day.

Could we just agree 400-9 now and then all go home???

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Norwich SCCC (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 15:38
6 down now - another point in the bag!

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 15:45
I think there is a way we can win this from here, but I'm waiting for BJ to explain it more fully than I can.



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Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Chinaman (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 15:53
Easy - take last 4 wickets in 1 over for 0 runs, whack 200 off 19 overs, then bowl Notts out for 50 in 8 overs. Win by 9 runs.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 16:05
Chinaman: Why didn't I (and Trescothick) think of that!



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Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 16:05
According to Guardian, G M Andrew was wanted by Warks, but has penned new deal at New Road.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
BristolRob (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 16:09
Wrong thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Who put the A in Trego?

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
taung (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 16:13
Quote:
Loyal of Lhasa.
I think there is a way we can win this from here,

BCR has the has the idea, bring back Bertie Buse.

Warwick need 308 to win in 4th innings. they might even
lose the draw points.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Norwich SCCC (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 16:36
Warks 8/1 - Westwood out for 0

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
nelliec (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 16:38
8 for 2 now

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Streeter (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 16:42
Hmm tricky...how buoyed up do we want Hants to be ??

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
nelliec (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 16:51
Love the commentary now grockle.Sounds 100% better.Only criticism is that we are getting an update of every goal scored in the premiership and championship,but no updates on any wickets etc. 19 for 3 now Warks.
Apologies Grockle.Accidently switched onto Radio Notts. You would expect all the footy stuff from them.



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Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Norwich SCCC (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 16:53
Warks 19/3 - Chanderpaul out for 0

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 16:59
Good old Chanders - always reliable, bro...

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 17:01
My scores have failed. What's the latest from our game, please?

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
nelliec (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 17:01
19 for 4 warks.We're still alive!!

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Norwich SCCC (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 17:02
372-6 AG

Warks are 19-4

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Streeter (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 17:03
As I was just saying to saint........

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
nelliec (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 17:05
24 for 5 now

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
taung (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 17:05
Quote:
Norwich SCCC
Warks 19/3 - Chanderpaul out for 0

Mirroring exactly his performance in the 11-3 that cost
us the Championship last year.

This is surtely an omen as Warwick subside to 24-5.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 17:08
Sorry to say that the second microphone from the commentary box has not worked for me for the past two days.



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Re: Notts - A complete washout?
old boy! (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 17:14
Warwicks 5 ducks!!

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
BristolRob (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 17:18
May I suggest that this thread is only used for the game intended and any information on other games be put on the County cricket 2011 thread.It's most annoying to log in and a score of another game is posted on here with no reference to which game.

Many thanks

Confused of Saltford.



Who put the A in Trego?

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Grizzzly (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 17:19
Notts 392-8.

Well done for sticking to it lads.

One more for the last bowling point (I think ?).

Grizzzly

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Monkey Butler (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 17:25
Very nice gesture from Notts basically giving us the extra point.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
nelliec (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 17:27
Fairplay to Notts. They could have declared as soon as they reached 400 but they didn't.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 17:27
Who mentioned shaking hands on 400-9? - that's pretty much what they've done. smiling smiley

Game didn't go well for us, but things could've been worse. Still all to play for...

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 17:29
... and Warwickshire are now six wickets down. Time for the extra half hour?



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Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Norwich SCCC (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 17:35
The best outcome we could have hoped for today has been achieved. (well done to Notts for their conduct - they could have easily walked off at 400)

Keep fighting boys!

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Bobstan (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 17:36
Now it's over, please may I answer AG's post of much earlier in the day?

Yes, I shall be pleased if Northants go up as I shall be able to see a Somerset away match there.

Wantage Road is not the world's most beautiful ground, but I have always found the regulars there to be very congenial company. Usually see one or two former pupils of A N Cook's old school.

As good an outcome to our game as we could reasonably have hoped for - although when did reason ever come into it?

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 18:21
Thanks, are Notts just blocking then? Or has there been some more wet stuff?

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 18:24
Sorry, Iphone error - above post should have appeared much earlier.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Norwich SCCC (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 18:24
Its over AG - match is drawn. (402-9d)

You can go off and enjoy the football now - I know I am!

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 18:28
We touched on this subject the other day the rules say no team can declare to stop the other team from getting bonus points.

Our bowling in this match.
We have struggled to get wickets and got them in clutches but the end result is the best we could hope for in the end, it was also good to see Willoughby ending up with four wickets.

The weather was the winner in this match, on to the next one.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Norwich SCCC (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 19:19
And Warwicks have indeed lost the match - bowled out for 98 to take 5 points in the match compared to our 6.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 19:22
Yeah, disaster for Warks. Five successive players made ducks - 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6.

Hants have now beaten Durham and Warks in successive games. And I think their final three include both us and Lancs...

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 20:55
Day four photos.

Even today the rain wouldn’t leave us alone.

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7201/creadfieldernickcompton.jpg

This is the shot that hit Nick Compton on the leg off a hard hit shot from Chris Read.

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/4995/mwesselsctskirbybldchar.jpg

Now for a very good catch from Steve Kirby, he ended up facing the other way from a high hit shot from M Wessels off bowling of Charl Willoughby.

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/1298/smullaneyctckieswetterb.jpg

S Mullaney caught Craig Kieswetter bowled George Dockrell.

Only three photos today.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
SheptonPaul (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 21:01
From that last shot, I guess Kieswetter's catch of Mullaney must've been very good; SK playing to leg and the ball turning across him - never a bad catch standing up.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 21:17
Yes Paul, it looks like it came off the face of the bat or off the glove.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Grockle (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 21:33
It was more certain than the decision against Peter yesterday.



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Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
20/08/2011 21:39
I'm afraid I did shout out nonsense when Pete was given out. It didn't look credible.

The bloke next to me reckoned it was a classic 'evening up,' situation after an appeal against Pete was declined in the previous over. I did think that it was possible that Pete had gloved that one.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
21/08/2011 00:36
Good on Hants today. I hope this doesn;t mean that they have run into form before our 4 day game and the T20. Marcus is -as always- right. Charls final wicket might be the point that we need at the end.
Next week sees our annual southward pilgrimage for Edgbaston on Saturday, Essex in th CB 40 HAnts in the 4 day and hopefully a CB 40 semi- which I guess will be away at the Oval or Hove. Can I have some sunshine please

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
21/08/2011 07:03
And, in the meantime, can we please have plenty of rain this week..

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
21/08/2011 08:22
Except today and Wednesday.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
21/08/2011 09:25
I'd sacrifice today and Wednesday if I had to, to produce monsoons in Nottingham and either Leeds or Scarborough ( not sure where the Warks game is to be held?)

Current forecasts suggest Durham will get a full day on Monday before the weather breaks down and the forecast for Warks is unsettled throughout.

It's pouring down in Dorchester this morning so hoping that's not also the case in TA1.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Mike TA1 (IP Logged)
21/08/2011 09:27
Not very nice but dry in TA1

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
21/08/2011 09:38
Forecast totally wrong for today, thus far.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
21/08/2011 10:24
Still dry in Taunton?

Still horrid here. Planning to leave in one hour and hoping not to bring this weather with me.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
taung (IP Logged)
21/08/2011 12:07
Quote:
AGod
I'd sacrifice today and Wednesday if I had to, to produce monsoons in Nottingham and either Leeds or Scarborough ( not sure where the Warks game is to be held?)
Current forecasts suggest Durham will get a full day on Monday before the weather breaks down and the forecast for Warks is unsettled throughout.

Fair comment. As with the T20 our stellar NRR means that our
rivals have to exceed our points total not just equal it. This seems to give us a telling built in advantage, wonder if it was a deliberate plan of action.

Next week the weather and England calls should have an effect
on Durhan and Warwick. Somerset could make considerable progress as luck evens out.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
geordie moonraker (IP Logged)
21/08/2011 23:57
Net run rate only comes into play after wins have been counted. We should be OK on that as long as we win one of the 2. If we lose both then we come second and don't qualify as Durham are bound to be a better second than us.As you say taung our run rate should see us through if we win one more game.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
AGod (IP Logged)
22/08/2011 09:27
Well, biblically bad forecast for Tuesday, now. So if it's even half accurate then Warks will lose the whole of day one, and Durham the whole of day two.

Forecast for Wednesday less than brilliant as well.

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Bobstan (IP Logged)
22/08/2011 17:04
I'm preparing the ark and organising the livestock now.

Tomorrow we're visiting someone who lives right by the Thames , so I may be gone some time...

 
Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Loyal of Lhasa. (IP Logged)
22/08/2011 20:51
Take your wellies, Bobstan; we need you for the CC Celebration Dinner (at which it is rumoured BJ will leap out of a cake).



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Re: Notts - A complete washout?
Bobstan (IP Logged)
22/08/2011 20:58
You do a good line in threats, LoL.

Actually, I have remembered that I don't need to worry:

God gave Noah the rainbow sign.
No more water, the fire next time.

So I am assuming AGod is forecasting, fire, plague and pestilence. So that's all right, alright?

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