Wales, Women and Warmth


Welcome Back Man!!

By Grockles
June 26 2011

Brilliant sunshine in Taunton!!  It's warm and clear and beautiful - seems summer has finally got to the West.  Maybe it's the return of the women that has brought the sun.  We open up today with an international T20 between England and India before the Somerset boys take on Glamorgan.  A good crowd at 11:10 for the start of the first game.

England v India Natwest Quad T20 @ Taunton Sunday 26 June 2011 

Scorecard

Charlotte Edwards has won the toss and decided to put a score up first.  No Somerset girls (Wilson and Shrubsole) in the side.  the iside is;

Edwards, Marsh, Wyatt, SC Taylor, SJ Taylor(w), Brindle, Gunn, Greenway, Colvin, Hazell and Brunt.

I can't say I'm a great expert on the players in the women's game but the first impression is how much their game has changed since the last time I watched a game (England v South Africa in the early noughties).  This being India one expects the bowling to be spin mostly but the first couple of overs show that fast female bowling has come on in spades in the last decade.  The two English openers have a pretty torrid time, especially against the tall Snehal Pradhan who has Charlotte Edwards playing on 4 balls into the second over after showing her class with an excelelnt first boundary of an earlier second over ball.  It doesn't get any better when Laura Marsh the other opener goes caught behind in the same over and England finish 8 for 2 12 balls into the game.

It's left to Danielle Wyatt and Claire Taylor to re-start the game which they start to do immediately.  The quality of the English ground shots is excellent and Wyatt in particular is not afraid of hitting over the infield (and some of these Indian girls are very tall.  After 6 overs the momentum has been re-established and the English pair are moving the score along at 7.5 an over and nearing 50.  The chance of huge sixes is slim even on the small boundaries of Taunton.  The Indian field placings suggest catches come about 15 meters in from the boundary.

50 arrives 4 balls into the 7th and is followed immdiately by Wyatt misreading a slow ball and lobbing it straight back to the bowler Sharma for 23 off 16 balls.  She seemed to be in two minds as to whether to cut it or drive it over the bowler and she did neither.  Lydia Greenway is the next in...and the next out as she is caught behind chasing a very wide one first ball!! 50 for 4 and Sharma has 2 in 2.  Sultana (small spinner in a headband) takes the 8th over and gives it a lot of air to Taylor and goes for 4 in her first.

We have both Taylors at the crease now as Sarah joins Claire and they look to sort out the damage before the halfway stage of the innings. They push the score to 665 partly with excellent driving and partly through lazy Indian fielding but then  Sarah T seems to have a head fit, guides the ball down the leg side to the placed fielder and starts to run!!  There is NO way Claire is going to come and she turns to see the ball in teh hand of the keeper and is run out (she isn't even in the shot on the TV replay).  Totally daft and she knows it, kicks the turf and trudges off 65 for 5.

At the halfway stage Taylor and the new bat Arran Brindle have moved on to 70 but it is up to these two to take hold of this game if they want a score over 100 because they are losing wickets too regularly.  The Indian fielding is pretty variable, especially in the outfield.  The girls are the taller ones and although they seem to have the arm to get the ball in quickly, they aren't as adept at picking it up cleanly in the first place.

Brindle seems a good partner for Taylor, she's picking the holes and pushing the and getting her partner on strike. By the start of the 13th England are 12 from the three figure target and Taylor is moving towards a half century.  However Diana David is keeping it tight at the OP for her side and they only manage 3 runs in the 13th over.

100 is achieved 2 balls into the 15th while Taylor's 50 arrives just after that off 25 balls with 6 fours.  At the three quarter stage England are 106 and looking to push on.  I'm not sure what a par score for the women's game is on a pitch like Taunton in briliant sunshine.  The crowd has certainly built up though.  It's obviously a much better idea to play these games BEFORE the men's game because it becomes an extra event for spectators who are more likely to come a little earlier rather than stay behind.

In the 17th Brindle gives a delivery the long handle and holes out to a good low catch at mid on for 12 (120 for 6) but she has done her job of getting Taylor in front of the ball.  Jenny Gunn is the next in but 2 runs later Claire Taylor is the next woman out as she is bowled by Goswami for 66 off 46.  Excellent innings at an important time.  Katherine Brunt replaces her.  But the wickets keep falling at this vital time as Gunn is out LBW to Goswami halfway through the 18th for 1 - 123 for 8.  Will England manage to reach the 20 overs as Holly Colvin takes gaurd and then falls victim to an excellent low diving catch in the covers first ball. Goswami has three in this over for 1 run but the hat-trick ball is knocked for a single by Danielle Hazell and the Indian bowler ends her 4 overs with 3 for 20 and England have 126 with one wicket remaining.

With one over to go and 129 on the board it doesn't look like Brunt and Hazell will be looking for big boundary shots.  They look to get 6 off the over and if anything else happens then fine.  Pradhan is bowling full length and the England pair are dong well to get the ball away as they are having to dig every ball out.  It ends when Hazell top edges one and is caught in the covers with one ball left.  England end on 134.  They did well in the middle but lost too many wickets at the front and the back end to establish a hold on the innings.  Is it defendable?  We shall see won't we.  

The Reply

A very quick turnaround and India need 135 from 120.  Katherine Brunt (Right fast) will open from the OP and nearly has Deshpande playing on first ball.  She does get something on the 4th ball but Sarah Taylor puts the one handed catch down.  It's in but bounces out when her hand hits the ground.  Nevertheless a maiden starts the innnings. Tanwar will face Laura Marsh (Right Offy) from the River for the second.  She also gives it lots of air on a full length and the Indian can't get her away either though there is a run off a wide as Marsh tries to angle one across the batsman. 1 for 0 after 2.

The first run off the bat comes after another wide from Brunt with a single into the offside  from Deshpande.  There is a problem with the Indian's shirts in that they all have their FIRST names on them and so it isn't easy to work out who is who.  Sarah Taylor is having a nightmare start.  After putting down a fairly normal chance she then lets the 5th ball of Brunt's next one through her legs and the Indians take another run and reach 10 by the end of the third.

Arran Brindle (Right medium) is on for the 4th.  She also gives it a lot of air for a medium bowler but does her job and it's 14 after her 6. Katherine Brunt does look like the dangerous bowler though and after being terribly unlucky she finally makes the breakthrough with ball two of the 5th when Deshpande flips the ball into the infield where she is caught by Colvin. 14 for 1 and the new batsman is  Mithali Raj (the number one bat in women's cricket). Danielle Wyatt takes the 10th over with the Indian pair getting down to it.  However with the last ball before the halfway point Raj looks for 2 on a drive into the outfield which was never on and is run out with 38 on the board. Harman Kaur is the new batswoman but the English are fielding like terriers and the Indian pair are finding it hard to get anything but singles.  At the start of the 11th with the rate at 4 needing to be at 10.11, Tanwar comes up the pitch to Wyatt and top edges.  44 for 3 and England on top wit Sharma striding out for her batting duties.

Holly Colvin takes the 13th and has Kaur caught by Claire Taylor from her second ball to take the Indian side to 46 for 4 bringing Krishnmurthy out to bat.  She isn't long for the game though as she tries for a second on a flat throw from Marsh straight into Taylor's gloves and off came the bails with her well out.  47 for 5 and the next bat in is Roy who nearly holes out with her first ball but Wyatt did not hold it. 

The 50 arrives in the 14th off a skied shot that drops into "no woman's land" but the rate required is rising quickly and the Indian scoring rate is not doing the same (there's a diffference of some 9.5 runs an over at the moment). Halfway through the 15th, there is a close run out shout which the umpires do not refer...the replay shows the Indian was out but it's too late.  Colvin ends her spell with 18 for 1 and at 15 India are on 62 needind another 73 off the remaining 30 balls...doesn't look too lightly unless they call in Dravinda Trescothick and Kali Pollard!

After a welcome boundary, the first for some time from Sharma, Wyatt gives the next one air and length and bowls her for 11 at 67 for 6 David is the next woman in with a pretty hopeless task.  Their target must be simply to make it to 20 overs without losing all their wickets.  The winning total looks impossible as Wyatt finishes with 2 for 20 - excellent and very tight spell.

Danielle Hazell takes the 17th from the OP (she is in as a replacement for Somerset's Anya Shrubsole who played against the Aussies yesterday) and she gets a wicket with her third as David cross bats the ball to Brindle at midwicket adn returns to the hutch with her side on 70 for 7. Goswami is next in needing a boundary a ball to win by one run!!

Brindle (Right medium ...just) takes the 18th and is lucky to only go for a one bounce four off her last ball.  79 on the total with 12 balls to go and the Indian girls have decided to have a go  - no reason why no to be honest. 86 after the 19th and in the 20th Brunt takes Goswami and reduces them to 88 for 8 needing 48 off 2 balls and that is how they finish with England winning by 46 runs.

A good game with some excellent cricket - enjoyed that a lot.

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cricketjerry-mouse
25/06/2011 22:48
Former England paceman Simon Jones, who has returned to Glamorgan on a month`s loan from Hampshire, is included in the 13-man squad for the match with Somerset at Taunton tomorrow.

The Welsh county add former Glo`shire all-rounder David Brown and seamer Will Owen to the side that defeated Sussex by two runs in a low-scoring match at Cardiff on Thursday.

Squad: Petersen (c), Cosgrove, Allenby, Cooke, Rees, Wallace, Wagg, Brown, Croft, Cosker, Owen, Alex Jones and Simon Jones.

RadstockRob
25/06/2011 23:26
I thought this was going to be a thread about "The Jones Boy".
Never mind Jim perhaps one day when your famous!!

Mike TA1
26/06/2011 09:05
The weather forecast given this morning for the next two days we are going to have a heat wave.

At the moment it is misty I can just see the hills, once the mist has lifted it is going to be a lovely day, we haven’t been able to say that recently on a cricket day at Taunton.

There are people waiting outside the gates at 8.30 I expect it is the same ones that are always there early.

We welcome the women today to their headquarters for a game of women’s cricket. (I can’t remember seeing them any other time at Taunton the year)

AGod
26/06/2011 09:27
Is it really humid, Mike?

It is in the SE.

If it is really humid in TA1, I intend to put a spread bet on Pete for today's game as he should wobble it around if humid.

nelliec
26/06/2011 09:31
Has anyone else spotted that strange big yellow thing in the sky this morning?

Mike TA1
26/06/2011 09:43
I thought it was something on my glasses.

wsm fan
26/06/2011 09:54
Glorious day, 2 games at HQ, big crowd due.

Bat first and get going in first 6 overs and could be a very enjoyable day.....

AGod
26/06/2011 11:05
Could be a lot of runs. I gather that Cosgrove will play as well as Peterson. They have Allenby too so they might also have the ability to score a good number of runs.

I hope Jos gets a knock and gets a score.

Norwich SCCC
26/06/2011 11:17
A reproduction of JB's innings against Glamorgan in last years pro 40 would be nice.

It promises to be a run laden day - lets give the watching nation a treat!

Bagpuss
26/06/2011 12:08
From the word on the official site seems Max played on friday because Hussain wasn't fit and his place today will rest on whether Hussain's stiff neck comes through a fitness test.

AGod
26/06/2011 12:12
I feared something like that might have been why he played. I'd really love to see them give either him or George a game, full stop.

Bagpuss
26/06/2011 13:39
Presumably it will be the same pitch for both matches? If so, with 40 (or thereabouts if India are bowled out) overs already on this pitch, in the sropical taunton sunshine, maybe Somerset will think an extra spinner a better option anyway.

Grockle
26/06/2011 14:05
Cosgrove IS HUGE!!

(Sm72)

Mike TA1
26/06/2011 14:23
Yes but his score will be low.

Still at the ground then Grockle.

Grockle
26/06/2011 14:57
Yep still here. Glamorgan won the toss and will bat. Same side for Somerset today so Max will get a bowl.

Slightly different way of accessing the report for this game. As the England match report is already up, rather than making a huge frontpage and splitting the thread, I've put a link to the Glamorgan game at the bottom of the England story so you can go to the on-going report on the T20 game from there.

Beautiful day and a full house for this one.

(Sm72)

AGod
26/06/2011 15:07
Really looking forward to seeing Max----- Glamorgan sure to feel under pressure to put up a score, so I'd like to see Marcus use all three spinners--- flight the ball up and throw the gauntlet down

AGod
26/06/2011 15:13
Excellent start by Kartik

Bagpuss
26/06/2011 15:21
Just cranked up Sky Player on the laptop to see Cosgrove on his way back to the bus shelter.

Mike Atherton says 'That one was short and wide'.

Now was he talking about the ball, or the batsman?

Grockle
26/06/2011 15:24
And Allenby has followed him after a ludicrous single attempt. Run out by the Boss.

Unfortunately Trigger is going for a lot off the 4th

(Sm72)

AGod
26/06/2011 15:40
And that wicket of peterson will prove to be the death knell for Glamorgan, pretty much - likely to be yet another T20 game effectively over very early on -- but good for us in this case!



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Sloop John B
26/06/2011 15:44
A fine googly from Max takes out Wallace!

AGod
26/06/2011 15:50
Terrific first over from Gregory

AGod
26/06/2011 15:58
Great catch, Kartik --- really nice figures for Max -- good spell

Sloop John B
26/06/2011 16:00
Chuffed for Max - a fine spell. 2-20.

Hope Tres and co take note.

AGod
26/06/2011 16:06
Gloucs 254 for 3 - tons for both openers vs hapless Middx

SheptonPaul
26/06/2011 16:08
Gregory and Waller very impressive this afternoon.

First time I've been able to see SCCC on TV this year - disappointed that the outfield seems so rutted and uneven. I recall this being a worry in the winter (I think Mike had some photos?). Anyway, it clearly affects the fielders' confidence in running to pick up balls hit to the deep, and detracts from the spectacle of usually-impressive outfielding.

AGod
26/06/2011 16:13
Gregory is a gem of a one-day bowler - i'd imagine he will probably add even more pace which, together with his line and his yorkers will make him even more difficult to deal with

Sloop John B
26/06/2011 16:33
As long as we don't do a 'headless' chicken in our batting this should be a regulation win!

AGod
26/06/2011 16:36
They did a lot better than I expected from half-way

However, if somebody like Dean Cosker can come in and slam the ball around like that? Well, it really does look like another plum batting surface

Avoid losing early wickets and it should be very comfortable

Sloop John B
26/06/2011 16:39
Looks like we shall lose our record of inflicting the largest defeat in T20.

Gloucs having smashed 254 have Middx 57-5 in 8.5 overs!!

mikeindex
26/06/2011 17:39
Sounds like Craig Jr is seeing it well.

AGod
26/06/2011 17:39
They were two beautiful straight sixes

AGod
26/06/2011 17:50
Nice to see that [I think} Simon Jones congratulated Meschede on that excellent innings

AGod
26/06/2011 17:59
Great day for the youngsters -- well done Meschede, Waller and Gregory

Loyal of Lhasa.
26/06/2011 17:59
That was rather easy and must have been very enjoyable to watch. It was good that Buttler had the pleasure of hitting a few at the very end - and for those who say he's been having a bad season, one might mention that he has yet to be out in the CB40 competition.

LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Sloop John B
26/06/2011 18:01
A commanding performance. And it is really good to see Max, Craig M and Lewis G perform with distinction.

Now top of table on run rate.

Loyal of Lhasa.
26/06/2011 18:06
... but we've played one more match than the other two sides.

LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter

Bagpuss
26/06/2011 18:10
Those two sides have to play each other tomorrow so unless an unexpected downpour hits Hedge End only one of them can leapfrog over us.

Grockle
26/06/2011 18:20
Great day - lovely spectacle and 8000 in (Nashy's figure so I'm taking that instead of SKY's 7). Seems at least that many as they are still streaming out - mostly a wonderful shade of pink!

No KP today as well. This was done by our lot adn although SKY kept going on about us doing it here with the small boundaries and the flat pitch etc etc...we are there on net run rate having lost 4 games to get those runs!!

Big game tomorrow between Hampshire and Sussex. What price a tie?

(Sm72)

Botham
26/06/2011 18:21
Today I found a disadvantage to watching at home - the vacuum cleaner can interrupt viewing!

Wickham
26/06/2011 18:25
Best not to leave the vacuum cleaner in front of the television then, Botham.

Mike TA1
26/06/2011 18:40
Fancy calling your wife a vacuum cleaner.

Photos maybe late I am going to cook a meal.

I will post some from the women's match tomorrow.

SillyMidOn
26/06/2011 18:45
That Buttler 6 to end it, where did that land? Massive hit.

AGod
26/06/2011 18:49
After that Craig M innings you'd have to say that, when at full strength, we now have as many as 6 highly destructive players - Tresco, Trego, Craig K, Jos, KP and now Craig M.

I think we can expect to see many more worn pitches for our away games because it's no fun at all bowling at our threshing machines on plum batting tracks!

SheptonPaul
26/06/2011 18:50
...and we're back in the game!

Well played today, one and all.

RobboG
26/06/2011 19:14
Emailed cricinfo to get them to sort out the T20 league table that so far in this tournament had been based - when points were level - on wins, not net run rate.

they've now rectified this, nice to see the boys on top lieterally, albeit for one day only!

Loyal of Lhasa.
26/06/2011 19:16
Unless it's a tie, I think we are bound to climb one place in the table tomorrow without actually playing.

(or is there something badly wrong with my maths?)

LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter

RobboG
26/06/2011 19:24
We're currently top, so if it's a tie, we'll go back to 3rd, otherwise we'll drop to 2nd

ronnies
26/06/2011 19:25
good performance today. Young Craig M looks impressive. Brian Rose was right.he is a clean striker.

Save KP for when we need him!!!!

AGod
26/06/2011 19:38
We saw a bit it in the Windies but I think that's the first time he's really been given the scope to play that kind of innings. He does hit pleasingly straight. I don't think we essayed even a single sweep shot today? Not even Hildreth? I love to see batsmen using their feet rather than sweeping!

Wickham
26/06/2011 19:56
I agree with those comments about Meschede. He looks a seriously good prospect.

As others have said, Gregory (at least until his final over) and, particularly, Waller bowled well - he completely deceived Wallace with the googly which bowled him.

Loyal of Lhasa.
26/06/2011 19:56
Quote:
RobboG
We're currently top, so if it's a tie, we'll go back to 3rd, otherwise we'll drop to 2nd

Surely we are third at this stage of the competition, because Hampshire and Sussex have played one fewer match than we have. To demonstrate my point: if every match involving every side was rained off for the rest of the competition, leading to the awarding of one point to each side whose match was abandoned, we would end with one point fewer than the other two. Net run rate would not help us in such circumstances.

LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter



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rambling sid
26/06/2011 20:02
We have a better batting rate, in fact by batting rates we're out of sight.

Scrumper
26/06/2011 21:03
Really pleased for young Meschede, he could be in the CC team soon.

Hey we've been seen on TV 2 days running! Not going to that Nevil Road place again, what a dump, got lost in a building site trying to get out, cost £1 an over (Sm95)

wsm fan
26/06/2011 21:49
The Jos 6 to win the game,

It went over/through the gap between long room and botham stand, i saw it bounce up having hit the wall/path and ended up in the river

Grizzers
26/06/2011 23:05
Must have been a terrific performance.

Well done all.

Grizzzly

Mike TA1
26/06/2011 23:07
Today’s photos from the Somerset v Glamorgan match.

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3097/dcoskeroffkpollard.jpg

Kieran Pollard’s bowling seems hard to pick, D Cosker was deceived by this ball from Pollard

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/8633/gwaggofflgregory.jpg

Why we are all asking doesn’t Lewis Gregory bowl in the CC when he is bowling at 87mph, this delivery made G Wagg jump off the ground?

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/2053/gwaggofflgregory2.jpg

And this ball from Lewis again bowled to G Wagg missing the outside edge.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/5065/mcosgrovectjbuttlerbldp.jpg

Pete Trego was a bit expensive today but he appreciated Jos Buttler catching this edge from M Cosgrove.

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8209/mtrescothickbldjallenby.jpg

Man of the match Marcus Trescothick batted another brilliant innings today backed by good batting from the rest of the team. It took a good Yorker from J Allenby to get him out.

Scrumper
26/06/2011 23:15
Great photo that last one!

Grockle
26/06/2011 23:17
It was tremendous. Besides a couple of loose overs we were on top of this game from the start to finish. They didn't start well and owed a lot to Cooke. Kartik did exactly what was required when it was required by his captain, Gregory bowled well. Max was very good - shades of the West Indian tournament, expecially the googley!!

Then the batting - Trigger stating the intent from ball one - how demoralising was that? He was unlucky to play on. The skipper was once more immense. But once he'd covered Craig to allow him to settle, Meschede didn't need any cover. Those straight hits were less than 12 feet apart and to then do it again off another bowler! His performance was as significant as his captains.

Giving Jos the opportunity to finish the game so emphatically gives him confidence and showed a real level of professionalism.

Although Atherton struggles sometimes to be positive about us at home even he was impressed by this destruction of the Welsh. Where would we be in this tournament if we had actually played the four games at home? How far ahead would we be?

I know we can fall apart at any time and the same side can lose by huge amounts of runsas win by the same margin.

But we are SO good when we are good that no-one in this tournament can stay with us and any total set against us can be passed.

(Sm72)

Scrumper
26/06/2011 23:28
Today was very much like yesterday, once the run rate was under a run an over, you knew the game was over.

Sangakkara and Jayawardene made it look so easy.

Anyway, what do you think of Treg's catch today? Sometime he'll drop it and look really stupid.

wsm fan
26/06/2011 23:46
Well said grockle, when we are good we really are special.

We have our off days but as a batting unit we are totally unrivalled, we have been spoilt this season by our captain, is its possible i think he is actually getting better.
Especially in T20, he's always been destructive but he now seems to be being more resposible and making more 50-60+ rather than quick 25-30's.

I actually feel quite sirry for our opponents sometimes as it must be daunting facing us when in that form.

Big test coming up now on the road, 6 of our last 7 being away from Taunton, 4/5 wins should be enough to qualify 6/7 for a top 2 spot???

Mike TA1
26/06/2011 23:48
And it was standing room only today, I don't think there were enough seats, there were people standing between each stand.

They were sitting on the steps on the Gimblett's Hill that is not normally allowed.

The club should have made up some of the money lost from the other rained-off matches.

Edit - spelling error.



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Grockle
26/06/2011 23:57
One of the questions that Atherton asked during the commentary was exactly that WSM.

As a bowler, how the hell do you deal with Trescothick in this mood. Unless he makes a mistake of his own making, he has every shot in the book for every delivery in every area of the wicket. Wherever you put the ball, whatever length you bowl, however fast you send it down, he will either make space or improvise something from his arsenal which will see your delivery heading for a boundary.

The shots into the Caddyshack car park area are the most impressive. They rarely bounce this side of the rope and they look soooo effortless.

(Sm72)

Scrumper
27/06/2011 00:20
Quote:
Grockle
As a bowler, how the hell do you deal with Trescothick in this mood.
Bowl a yorker.

old boy!
27/06/2011 10:59
I'm surprised MikeBoS reports that they were standing BETWEEN the stands on Sunday. On Friday I did a wander and stood for a few minutes BETWEEN the BOTHAM and TRESCOTHICK Stands. Bear in mind the 'huge numbers!!!' there on Friday!!
Along comes 'JOBSWORTH' 'Move along Sir! (me a Sir? AND 72!) you can't stand there' - there were several others with me as well. Why do you say I have to move? Because I say so Sir!
I suspect that his bizarre instructions were handed down by the infamous head of ground security - Ex Police Inspector Knacker! - you know the one! Couldn't the force have him back, with knobs on!

old boy!
27/06/2011 11:12
I agree a yorker is the only ball which Tres is vunerable to - now that he appears to have overcome the tendency to tickle a short one just outside off stump to slip. But if the yorker isn't accurate and it is just over or under pitched it becomes a full toss six or a half-volley six!

Delighted with the performances of Craig M, Max W, Joss B and in part Lewis G. Craig appeared very comfortable, and although it probably won't register with the selectors Max once again has come up trumps. I don't recall him ever being taken apart by any of his first class batting opponents. Such a pity that he will never be considered for our CC side. Lets hope he has the determination to demonstrate his art with another county in future.

Mike TA1
27/06/2011 11:44
Guy Wolfenden the Head of Sales and Marketing at Somerset said: "We just had to close the gates and stop selling tickets to who turned up before the start of the Glamorgan game because we had reached the ground capacity. [www.somersetcountycc.premiumtv.co.uk]

I wonder if that is the largest crowd we have had at Taunton!

I wonder why they are not saying in that report how many were in the ground, I would have thought that is the first thing they would have said.

I don’t know if the figure of ten thousand was an estimate or the official figure.

Grockle
27/06/2011 11:57
Not the largest Mike because we have had more when the temporary stand is up on the concrete area at Cow Corner. Andy Nash told us that we had 8000 in the ground. SKY were reporting 7000. I'd take the higher of the two as nearer the mark.

I think we are now saying that if we employ all the temporary seating in the place we would be at 9000.

I think we've had more than 8K but I'm not sure.

(Sm72)

Sloop John B
27/06/2011 12:55
Much as I am a fan of Gemaal Hussain I do hope that Max's performance puts him ahead in the pecking order for t20 matches.

Slow bowling is often more economical than pace/seam. And Max is a superb fielder too.

Grockle
27/06/2011 13:13
Well he certainly put his name in the frame yesterday. As you say the slower men seem to have the advantage.

(Sm72)

Botham
27/06/2011 13:29
That's why I feel there is no place for Kirby.

AGod
27/06/2011 13:34
And presumably Waller is more likely to hit a few late runs (if needed) too? The case for picking Hussain is weak unless we come across a green-top seamer -- and most teams do not prepare those for T20.

I think we only have a couple of Taunton games left?

So much will depend on what kind of surfaces we encounter away from Taunton and how well we adjust. I hope, for their sakes as much as anything, that the folks at Bath manage to produce a good batting track because we will surely not thank them if it's some kind of slow and stodgy track?

In theory, other than the venues of games, the remaining fixture list should be in our favour, with two games against Gloucs and another one against Middx still to come.

I hope we take zero chances with rushing Alf back if qualification looks tight, though. Cannot afford any more set-backs with his fitness.

Assuming we do go through and get Alf back for the Quarter-Finals, then we ought to be able to get to a position where there are absolutely no non-batsman in the team? Alf, Lewis, Pete and Pollard would look like enough seam/swing/pace for T20...and with Kartik too you then have the flexibility to fill the other places with batting and/or spin bowling options. Kirby can be rested for the CC.

Tonight's game at Southampton will, presumably, be washed away in the thunderstorms?

Blub
27/06/2011 13:38
IF it was the case that Max only played because of Hussain's injury, I feel it shows tremendous character to bowl so well in this game.

His first over was the third of the game was it not? Hopefully we will be seeing a lot more of him. I only watched on telly bits of the game but I got the impression that the Sky pundits were very impressed with him.

Blub
27/06/2011 13:42
Kartik's first over - I did watch all of this and I was amazed at his deliveries to the left handed Cosgrove. They all seemed to start off as clear leg side wides before oddly swinging into his pads from outside leg stump.

Very effective - but I have not seen SLA deliveries like that before! Wonderful control.

AGod
27/06/2011 13:44
They have been impressed with Max before. Indeed, I think they are impressed with pretty much all of our younger players that they have seen -- certainly with Jos and Lewis and they were most impressed with Meschede yesterday (understandably).

Craig M struck the ball cleanly and played pleasingly straight but perhaps the most pleasing thing of all was that, at no point, did he get carried away and try something stupid.. they were absolutely no hoicks to cow-corner, no switch-hits or "Dil scoops," or any of that sort of stuff... it was good, orthodox batsmanship that was executed to a very high standard. I don't think he tried any shots yesterday that a Tendulkar or a Kallis would not have played.

Grockle
27/06/2011 14:04
Steve will play while Alf doesn't - we need his drive on the pitch.

(Sm72)

AGod
27/06/2011 14:12
He probably will but when Alf is back then he can take Kirby's spot and we can thus maximise our spin/batting options.

Grockle
27/06/2011 14:20
But given the present situation and Alf's importance to the other competitions, this is where they'll take it slow and make sure he's right. He may be back for the Gloucs match on the 8th.

(Sm72)

AGod
27/06/2011 14:29
I hope they do take it slow.

Grockle
27/06/2011 14:35
You've got to expect they will. There's only reason that may puh him into the tournament early and that is the possibility of a home draw in the quarters.

Max and Craig deserve another game and we have plenty of time for Alf to get himself ready. The next four dayer is a fortnight away.

(Sm72)



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Mike TA1
27/06/2011 17:20
If they are using the same pitch for the Hampshire match tonight as the women's match it could be an interesting to watch, the England women's spinner Colvin is spinning the ball a lot.

Grockle
27/06/2011 18:20
She looked good at Taunton on Sunday as well.

(Sm72)

Streeter
27/06/2011 19:43
Just back from a visit to the parents taking in first visit of the season to the county ground on friday night.
A few points.
Firstly what a magnificent crowd. waiting patiently and expectantly in the drizzle. A great atmosphere even before we had a game.
Of course all the plaudits were for the boss and KP but I was very impressed by James innings the perfect foil to Marcus but with clean hitting and sublety. Didn't look much like a batsman out of touch. Maybe needs to re-find his concentration in the longer game ( which may have been a big factor in last seasons success.
Very nice moment as KP was welcomed onto the field. It was of course in sad circumstances that we last saw him. Seems like a nice guy with a big heart to go with his big bat.

AGod
27/06/2011 21:43
Hants have their tactics spot on - 3 good spinners in their side, two of them extremely good.

On balance I think they may be favourites to retain their title - they have a better side now than last season.

cricketjerry-mouse
27/06/2011 22:52
But Hampshire won`t be playing on wickets used for a five-day Test match just one week ago; that had none of its cracks filled since; that was used for 40-overs of a Women`s T20 match the same afternoon; and which was exactly the opposite of what the ECB have asked clubs to prepare for T20 matches - one where the ball comes onto the bat.

If the umpires had any guts they would report tonight`s wicket as unfit for play and Hampshire would be deducted another two points - but of course they won`t.

Loyal of Lhasa.
27/06/2011 23:43
I note that the England women won again today - that's four wins our of four in the current tournament.

LoL

Sixty-six Seasons a Somerset Supporter

AGod
28/06/2011 06:14
Yes, cjm, they won't be able to dictate the wickets for away games but then spinners are often the most effective performers in T20 on almost all types of surface - only a green top seamer would be the exception in my eyes - and I'd say they are produced less frequently than slow turners for T20 games.

Nailsea_Fizz
28/06/2011 10:14
AGOD - Out of interest who have you got down as wnning the CB40,

Sloop John B
28/06/2011 10:28
Eng women won the title by beating the Aussie side rather soundly!

Although the English batters found scoring difficult on that tatty wicket the Aus did even worse with Holly Colvin bowling with beautiful drift and significant turn.

They turned the screws on their opponents and the scoring rate went up to 12 an over which the women found impossible to sustain.

AGod
28/06/2011 10:50
Is the realtive strength of bowling vs batting significantly different in the women's cricket compared to the men's?

I ask because I was struck by two poor scores (made by England and then India) in the games at Taunton on Sunday. I didn't see the game but know that it was the same surface as for the Glamorgan game... and it looked a flat-track belter to me.

old boy!
28/06/2011 11:36
I saw the Womens match on Sunday, and was pleasantly surprised at the skill levels. Batting was very much like mens but without the strength - hence no sixes - a score of 130+ seemed on a par with 180 for men. Bowling was more varied with no fast stuff but a lot of spin - all very straight and accurate. The fielding and catching and throwing was of a good class. A great improvement on the ladies match (same teams) I saw on same ground 3/4 years ago.

AGod
28/06/2011 11:41
Well, good to hear that standards are getting better, Old Boy.

Sloop John B
28/06/2011 12:19
Wholly agree OB. The thought that goes into the tactics is really good.

They know they can't belt the ball to the boundary regularly so look to place in the positions where fielders are absent.

The skill levels seem really good to me. And they use relay fielding which the men are now using more and more on the boundary.

Grockle
28/06/2011 16:34
Far more shots on the floor as well but some excellent driving. Fast bowlers are about 75mph according to the profiles so you'de expect a demon to be someone who could get it up to 80.

Fielding was variable but the keeping was clean (most of the time) and over the wicket returns were the norm (not something common when I last saw a women's match at the start of the millennium).

Generally most impressive.

(Sm72)

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