Middlesex CCC
Guess Our Starting Line Up For The Opening Game
By MTWD ADMIN
March 30 2013
With just over a week to go to the start of the season our annual Guess Our Starting Line Up For The Opening Game competition is upon us.
For first game of the season at Notts 10th April, I’m asking you to name your anticipated starting line up including the batting order and the nominated 12th man as per the scorecard. To win you need to guess the following and if a draw this is play off order.
1/ The most players who are in your final 11.
2/ The most in correct batting order.
3/ The 12th man
The other rule is all answers must be stated on this thread and you cannot replicate the exact line-up of anyone else.
If somehow there’s still a draw there will be a spurious tie-breaker question.
The deadline is 1 second to midnight 9th April.
A miniscule prize that may fall apart on receipt is up for grabs.
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Discussion started by Middlesex till we die , 30/03/2013 20:18
Middlesex till we die
30/03/2013 20:18
30/03/2013 20:18
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Denly
Robson
Rogers (capt)
Malan
Dexter
Simpson (wk)
Berg
Rayner
Harris
Roland-Jones
Murtagh
12th man Collymore.
Tempted to go for Stirling ahead of Rayner, but will stick with this line-up.
Robson
Rogers (capt)
Malan
Dexter
Simpson (wk)
Berg
Rayner
Harris
Roland-Jones
Murtagh
12th man Collymore.
Tempted to go for Stirling ahead of Rayner, but will stick with this line-up.
I imagine our line-up to be:
1. Chris Rogers
2. Sam Robson
3. Joe Denly
4. Dawid Malan
5. Neil Dexter
6. John Simpson
7. Ollie Rayner
8. Gareth Berg
9. James Harris
10. Toby Roland-Jones
11. Tim Murtagh
12. Adam London
1. Chris Rogers
2. Sam Robson
3. Joe Denly
4. Dawid Malan
5. Neil Dexter
6. John Simpson
7. Ollie Rayner
8. Gareth Berg
9. James Harris
10. Toby Roland-Jones
11. Tim Murtagh
12. Adam London
Here's mine
1/ Denly
2/ Robson
3/ Rogers
4/ Malan
5/ Dexter
6/ Simpson (wk)
7/ Berg
8/ Harris
9/ TRJ
10/ Dial M
11/ Ravi Patel
12 Ollie
1/ Denly
2/ Robson
3/ Rogers
4/ Malan
5/ Dexter
6/ Simpson (wk)
7/ Berg
8/ Harris
9/ TRJ
10/ Dial M
11/ Ravi Patel
12 Ollie
It's a no brainer barring injuries
Denly
Robson
Rogers (c)
Malan
Dexter
Simpson
Berg
Rayner
Harris
TRJ
Murts
12th man London
Denly
Robson
Rogers (c)
Malan
Dexter
Simpson
Berg
Rayner
Harris
TRJ
Murts
12th man London
1) Joe Denly
2) Sam Robson
3) Chris Rogers
4) Dawid Malan
5) Neil Dexter
6) John Simpson
7) Gareth Berg
8) James Harris
9) Toby Roland-Jones
10) Tim Murtagh
11) Ravi Patel
12th man: Adam London
2) Sam Robson
3) Chris Rogers
4) Dawid Malan
5) Neil Dexter
6) John Simpson
7) Gareth Berg
8) James Harris
9) Toby Roland-Jones
10) Tim Murtagh
11) Ravi Patel
12th man: Adam London
Could have put in the Iron Maiden clause by making the closing time for this 2 minutes to midnight. 
Going to have a think about mine before entering.
Going to have a think about mine before entering.
Robson
Rogers
Denly
Malan
Dexter
Simpson
Berg
Rayner
Harris
Murtagh
Roland-Jones
12th Patel
Umpires Lloyds Llong
Crowd 987
Weather Artic
Rogers
Denly
Malan
Dexter
Simpson
Berg
Rayner
Harris
Murtagh
Roland-Jones
12th Patel
Umpires Lloyds Llong
Crowd 987
Weather Artic
DB-
off topic so I apologise- but if you google 'jet stream' you get a site that gives you a 16 day projection of where jet steam is predicted to be.
Said projection has gone up and down a bit in last few days (and there is a bit more to the weather than just the jet stream) but for what it's worth things do look like they will start to improve in 10 days time- with weather up to about 15 degrees (which is infact more or less average for April)
Anyway, 10 days is far enough away it could easily go wrong- need to be 3 or 4 days away before you can really be confident with this prediction, but it's the first sign of potential good news for weeks.
off topic so I apologise- but if you google 'jet stream' you get a site that gives you a 16 day projection of where jet steam is predicted to be.
Said projection has gone up and down a bit in last few days (and there is a bit more to the weather than just the jet stream) but for what it's worth things do look like they will start to improve in 10 days time- with weather up to about 15 degrees (which is infact more or less average for April)
Anyway, 10 days is far enough away it could easily go wrong- need to be 3 or 4 days away before you can really be confident with this prediction, but it's the first sign of potential good news for weeks.
Robson
Denly
Rogers*
Malan
Dexter
Berg
Simpson+
Rayner
Harris
Roland-Jones
Murtagh
12th man
Collymore
Denly
Rogers*
Malan
Dexter
Berg
Simpson+
Rayner
Harris
Roland-Jones
Murtagh
12th man
Collymore
Robson
Denly
Rogers
Malan
Dexter
Simpson
Berg
Harris
Roland-Jones
Murtagh
Collymore
12th Man
Rayner
So no exact same teams, but I think I have counted five so far that are identical in the first 11 and of these I think a couple of these have the same 12th man. For what its worth, this duplicate team is probably the team that we will go with. Just think it might be worth going with 5 seamers with Denly and Malan as spin on a green top in Nottingham in April.
Denly
Rogers
Malan
Dexter
Simpson
Berg
Harris
Roland-Jones
Murtagh
Collymore
12th Man
Rayner
So no exact same teams, but I think I have counted five so far that are identical in the first 11 and of these I think a couple of these have the same 12th man. For what its worth, this duplicate team is probably the team that we will go with. Just think it might be worth going with 5 seamers with Denly and Malan as spin on a green top in Nottingham in April.
Running out of team ideas so i have gone for:
1)Rogers
2)Robson
3)Denly
4)Malan
5)Dexter
6)Simpson
7)Berg
8)Rayner
9)Harris
10) TRJ
11) Murtagh
12) Collymore
1)Rogers
2)Robson
3)Denly
4)Malan
5)Dexter
6)Simpson
7)Berg
8)Rayner
9)Harris
10) TRJ
11) Murtagh
12) Collymore
Robson
Denley
Rogers
Malan
Dexter
Simpson
Rayner
Berg
Harris
Roland Jones
Collymore
12th man Rossington
Bit left field I know but if Murts eats all those Easter eggs he was pictured with on Twitter he will be out of shape and about 2 stone overweight
Denley
Rogers
Malan
Dexter
Simpson
Rayner
Berg
Harris
Roland Jones
Collymore
12th man Rossington
Bit left field I know but if Murts eats all those Easter eggs he was pictured with on Twitter he will be out of shape and about 2 stone overweight
I have seen only one duplicate team including batting order and 12th man The one who entered first will win, what has happened previously there has been an injury and suddenly team looks different for last minute entrants,
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
1. Rogers
2. London
3. Denly
4. Malan
5. Dexter
6. Simpson
7. Berg
8. Rayner
9. Harris
10.Roland-Jones
11.Murtagh
12.Robson
2. London
3. Denly
4. Malan
5. Dexter
6. Simpson
7. Berg
8. Rayner
9. Harris
10.Roland-Jones
11.Murtagh
12.Robson
Not entering i dont think as im fairly sure it will be the following which is already taken i think:
1) Robson
2) Rogers (c)
3) Denly
4) Malan
5) Dexter - although London will be gagging to take his place if he doesn't find form fast...
6) Simpson (wk)
7) Berg
8) Harris
9) Rayner
10) TRJ
11) Murts
12) probably London, possibly Patel.
1) Robson
2) Rogers (c)
3) Denly
4) Malan
5) Dexter - although London will be gagging to take his place if he doesn't find form fast...
6) Simpson (wk)
7) Berg
8) Harris
9) Rayner
10) TRJ
11) Murts
12) probably London, possibly Patel.
This cricinfo article is rather worrying - maybe not for the starting line up but for later in the year re Rogers in particular
[www.espncricinfo.com]
[www.espncricinfo.com]
1. Chris Rogers
2. Sam Robson
3. Joe Denly
4. Dawid Malan
5. Neil Dexter
6. John Simpson
7. Ollie Rayner
8. Gareth Berg
9. James Harris
10. Toby Roland-Jones
11. Tim Murtagh
12. Gurjit Sandhu
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2013:04:10:01:24:44 by TOP TIER PAVILION.
It's not too late to submit your entry. There are some clues floating around from Radlett
1.Robson
2.Rogers
3.Denly
4.Malan
5.Dexter
6.Simpson
7.Berg
8.Rayner
9.Harris
10.Roland-Jones
11.Murtagh
12.Sandhu
2.Rogers
3.Denly
4.Malan
5.Dexter
6.Simpson
7.Berg
8.Rayner
9.Harris
10.Roland-Jones
11.Murtagh
12.Sandhu
Robson
Rogers
Denly
Malan
Dexter
Simpson
Berg
Harris
Roland Jones
Murtagh
Patel
12 London
Rogers
Denly
Malan
Dexter
Simpson
Berg
Harris
Roland Jones
Murtagh
Patel
12 London
It looks like Darren has won this, as the inclusion of Gurjit Sandhu in Middlesex's squad for this match has thrown nearly everyone.
Good tactics from Darren. Remember it's the scorecard order that is first decisive factor and there are few other potential winner. Sadly that does not include me.
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
Kev - not tactics, more a case of only finding the thread once half a dozen teams had already been posted including the selection I would have made myself.
I think the XI was never in question - in fact 9 entries have the same XI.
Having missed the boat somewhat, I did wait to see what yesterday's second XI line up was before plumping for my 12th man.
Will come down to the correct batting order and who knows the 'nightwatchman' could throw everything of course.
Who would have thought that in this fixture last season we would have seen Rayner at 5, Dexter at 7 and Berg at 9 ?
In view of Trent Bridge traditionally favouring seamers/early season green tops not inducive to spin, I am personally disappointed Stirling is not being given a chance to bolster the middle order batting at the expense of last season's Trent Bridge hero Rayner....
I think the XI was never in question - in fact 9 entries have the same XI.
Having missed the boat somewhat, I did wait to see what yesterday's second XI line up was before plumping for my 12th man.
Will come down to the correct batting order and who knows the 'nightwatchman' could throw everything of course.
Who would have thought that in this fixture last season we would have seen Rayner at 5, Dexter at 7 and Berg at 9 ?
In view of Trent Bridge traditionally favouring seamers/early season green tops not inducive to spin, I am personally disappointed Stirling is not being given a chance to bolster the middle order batting at the expense of last season's Trent Bridge hero Rayner....
Does seem odd, will that be the actual batting line up though? Can`t see Harris batting at 7.
Im on hand held thingy now and difficult to judge accurately. I will score based on order as per scorecard.
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
I feel I did quite well, as I got the line-up spot on, correctly said the order of our openers and am confident the rest of the our XI will bat in the order I predicted.
I am not totally sure why a lot of websites have Ollie Rayner down as being likely to bat at 10, as I would be very surprised if he bats that low. However, with so much batting talent amongst our bowlers, it is inevitable that whoever bats at 10 and 11 will have a decent batting record and thus feel like they would bat higher in most other teams. My prediction was that Rayner would bat at 7.
I am not totally sure why a lot of websites have Ollie Rayner down as being likely to bat at 10, as I would be very surprised if he bats that low. However, with so much batting talent amongst our bowlers, it is inevitable that whoever bats at 10 and 11 will have a decent batting record and thus feel like they would bat higher in most other teams. My prediction was that Rayner would bat at 7.
If you didn't know, here's our scorecard line up
Chris Rogers (C)
Sam Robson
Joe Denly
Dawid Malan
Neil Dexter
John Simpson (W)
Gareth Berg
James Harris
TobY Roland-Jones
Ollie Rayner
Tim Murtagh
12TH MAN Gurjit Sandhu
This was not easy to mark.
The majority got all of the XI. A few gambles with Ravi Patel, Adam London, Corey Colleymore that did not pay off. Out of the 10 that did get the XI right some struggled with order of top 3 and everyone was undone by the lower order positions.
By my calculations subject to an audit, rsethi managed the top score of 8 out of 11 in correct place. 12th man decider not relevant.
Congratulations rsethi. I hope to catch up with you for a miniscule prize presentation this season.
Anyone fancy marking next years competition?
Chris Rogers (C)
Sam Robson
Joe Denly
Dawid Malan
Neil Dexter
John Simpson (W)
Gareth Berg
James Harris
TobY Roland-Jones
Ollie Rayner
Tim Murtagh
12TH MAN Gurjit Sandhu
This was not easy to mark.
The majority got all of the XI. A few gambles with Ravi Patel, Adam London, Corey Colleymore that did not pay off. Out of the 10 that did get the XI right some struggled with order of top 3 and everyone was undone by the lower order positions.
By my calculations subject to an audit, rsethi managed the top score of 8 out of 11 in correct place. 12th man decider not relevant.
Congratulations rsethi. I hope to catch up with you for a miniscule prize presentation this season.
Anyone fancy marking next years competition?
Official announcement at the ground was that 12th duties were being SHARED by Sandhu and Podmore. Oreder on the card is not correct.
I'm going by what BBC website says and they never get anything wrong.
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
I think the batting order shown on scorecards or online is decided by a person whose decision-making is based on guesswork, although the main priority is to get the XI right as opposed to getting the batting order right.
If a change to the anticipated XI is announced at the toss, then the way that is often dealt with is by replacing the absent player(s)'s name with the new player(s)'s name, even if that could end up with the batting order according to the scorecard bearing little resemblance to the actual batting order. This often happens when a side decides to play an extra batsman or extra bowler compared to the anticipated XI.
Maybe whoever predicted today's batting order anticipated Gurjit Sandhu would play and bat at 10, only for Ollie Rayner rather than Sandhu to then be selected.
If a change to the anticipated XI is announced at the toss, then the way that is often dealt with is by replacing the absent player(s)'s name with the new player(s)'s name, even if that could end up with the batting order according to the scorecard bearing little resemblance to the actual batting order. This often happens when a side decides to play an extra batsman or extra bowler compared to the anticipated XI.
Maybe whoever predicted today's batting order anticipated Gurjit Sandhu would play and bat at 10, only for Ollie Rayner rather than Sandhu to then be selected.
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