Middlesex CCC
Yes/No Grand Slam 2008 Tournament
2008 Grand Slam Trophy
By Ged
January 1 2008
Following the success of earlier Yes/No games, MTWD is proud to present a Grand Slam version of the game. New rules are set out from rule 11 onwards, but basically it is the same fun game. The 2007 trophy was wide open until the end. Grand Slam Yes/No provides a lot more room for the cream to bubble to the top. And what a magnificent gold e-trophy is up for grabs. Go for it.
2008 Grand Slam Yes/No Guess the Player Tournament
Competition Rules
The Rules are as follows:
1/ the cricketer will be current or will have recently retired - he will have played 1st class cricket for Middlesex and/or be a player with some element of international cricket behind them - thus will be assumed to be known to anyone who has a reasonable knowledge of cricket...
2/ each question must be a closed question, i.e. one that can be answered with either a simple “yes” or “no”. E.g. has this player ever played test cricket?
3/ one of the 2 game moderators will endeavour to answer with a yes or no within 24 hours.
4/ If the answer is yes, that player, and that player only, has up to 24 hours to ask a further question.
5/ If the answer is no, the next question will be thrown open to anyone apart from the person who asked previous question.
6/ only one person at a time can ask the questions - so leap in quick each time a new round starts or when the current player receives the answer no7/ Following this process the person who correctly names the cricketer wins that round.
8/ Anyone who fails to observe these rules will be eliminated from that round..... Persistent offenders will be barred from thread………
9/ Random acts of trivia will occur from time to time, so it is always worth keeping in touch with each round and seeing if you can steal a win.
10/ Barmy Kev has relinquished title to the game and stood down from the elite panel of game moderators in order to take part in this version of the game.
11/ Edits to postings containing questions or guesses will be prohibited - if a contestant makes an edit, that contestant will be eliminated from that round. There will be no amnesties or second chances for a breach of this rule.
12/ If a contestant makes an incorrect guess at the player's name, that contestant is prohibited from chiming in again that round unless or until another contestant makes an incorrect guess at the player's name.
13/ The only acceptable questions are those of a factual nature that the game moderators can reasonably be expected to answer accurately. Facetious questions or questions that the game moderators in their absolute judgement deem to place unreasonable expectations upon them will receive the answer "unfair question" which will count as a "no" against the contestant.
14/ The first contestant to name five players correctly wins the magnificent Grand Slam e-trophy illustrated above.
15/ There might still be grey areas, but the game moderator's decision is final. And remember it is only a bit of fun.
Good luck
Hall of Fame:
| Player | Winner |
| Michael Yardy | Loverboy |
| Mahela Jayawardene | JC67 |
| Mal Loye | Pistol Pete |
| Tim Murtagh | Diamond |
| Dale Steyn | Diamond |
| Owais Shah | JC67 |
| Simon Cook | JC67 |
| Chris Read | Adelaide |
| David Nash | JC67 |
| Jacques Kallis | Adelaide |
| Andrew Symonds | Adelaide |
| Player L | |
| Player M | |
| Player N | |
| Player O | |
| Player P | |
| Player Q | |
| Player R |
RESULTS SO FAR:
JC 67 4
Adelaide 3
Diamond 2
Loverboy 1
Pistol Pete 1
Rest of the World 0
JC WILL TAKE SOME STOPPING, BUT ADELAIDE IS HOT ON HIS HEELS AND OTHERS AREN'T ENTIRELY OUT OF IT!!
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Discussion started by Middlesex till we die , 01/01/2008 18:14
Middlesex till we die
01/01/2008 18:14
01/01/2008 18:14
Yes/No Grand Slam 2008 Tournament
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2008:01:22:19:02:54 by Ged.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2008:01:22:19:02:54 by Ged.
And to help start the ball rolling, I'm happy to tell you all that Player A is a male who has not retired from 1st class cricket.
I find the question ambiguous, as there is only one form of test cricket as far as I know, which is test cricket.
No.
No.
Just to confirm following your answer to Diamond's question and previous answers. Can I confirm that he has not played test cricket, has not represented MCCC so, therefore, in line with Rule 1 has played international limited overs cricket?
Actually, rule one would potentially allow the answer no, as I believe the definition in rule one could potentially be met without the player having played international limited overs cricket. But as it happens (and as was rather likely), Player A has played international limited overs cricket.
Yes.
Yes.
Just to thank you for the lavish and undeserving praise bestowed upon me by our most benevolent webmeister on my recent victory.
I was of course extremely lucky to win,and apparently my tactics were not to everyone's liking,but as you say Ged,a wins a win for all that,and I have had a little bask in the glory,and read all the messages of congratulations.
But new challenges lie ahead,and as we know many will seek to topple the Champion and snatch the crown from me.
I,m ready for them Ged,Bring 'em on,and the best of luck to all in THE GRAND SLAM.
P.S.Just off to give my trophy a little polish!
I was of course extremely lucky to win,and apparently my tactics were not to everyone's liking,but as you say Ged,a wins a win for all that,and I have had a little bask in the glory,and read all the messages of congratulations.
But new challenges lie ahead,and as we know many will seek to topple the Champion and snatch the crown from me.
I,m ready for them Ged,Bring 'em on,and the best of luck to all in THE GRAND SLAM.
P.S.Just off to give my trophy a little polish!
OK. I am just going to take a punt as I not sure how many fit the criteria and he was the first one who came to mind.
Is it Paul Nixon?
Is it Paul Nixon?
No.
Under the new rules, JC, you are now prohibited from asking a further question or having another guess on this player unless/until someone else has an incorrect guess.
Under the new rules, JC, you are now prohibited from asking a further question or having another guess on this player unless/until someone else has an incorrect guess.
Quote:loverboy
P.S.Just off to give my trophy a little polish!
It's in the wrist action, Loverboy. Pesky things to polish, e-trophies.
As for "yer man's" batting average - Yes.
I just close my eyes and fantasise Ged,as I polish away with plenty of wrist action.
It should be pretty shiny by now.
Wa our man born outside England?
It should be pretty shiny by now.
Wa our man born outside England?
Was the county this person played for last season in the Northern Section of FPT ?
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
On the grounds that I ain't gonna be around tommorow , Crappolla !!!! Ihad a pinned down man for player A , night night all .
No, it isn't Crappolla. I don't believe he has played 1st class cricket this century.
Yes.
Loverboy 1, rest of the world nil.
Well played.
Onwards and upwards to Player B.
Loverboy 1, rest of the world nil.
Well played.
Onwards and upwards to Player B.
has he played a test for a country not including England?
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
Did this country reach the last 4 of the 2007 Cricket World Cup? ( not the 20/20 Mickey Mouse one)
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
Using the punctuation used, I am interpreting the question to stop at the question mark, with the note in brackets being for clarification.
(I make no comment on whether or not the answer would be different if the text were deemed to be a single question with the word "but" inferred).
Yes.
(I make no comment on whether or not the answer would be different if the text were deemed to be a single question with the word "but" inferred).
Yes.
is this country in continent of Oceania ( also know as Australasia) i.e Kiwi or Aus?
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
Acoording to rule 12 is JC67 allowed another question?
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
I think I'm correct in allowing JC's question as he was not allowed to have another go for Player A once he made an incorrect guess. and he came back on Player B after Loverboy got a no.
RULE 12
12/ If a contestant makes an incorrect guess at the player's name, that contestant is prohibited from chiming in again that round unless or until another contestant makes an incorrect guess at the player's name.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:01:03:15:49:40 by comebackgatt.
RULE 12
12/ If a contestant makes an incorrect guess at the player's name, that contestant is prohibited from chiming in again that round unless or until another contestant makes an incorrect guess at the player's name.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:01:03:15:49:40 by comebackgatt.
Comeback's interpretation of Rule 12, which I think is sufficiently clear, is the correct one.
The ball is in JC's court.
The ball is in JC's court.
Gosh, and I thought this was just a nice little game.
Did he play in the 2007 ICC World Cup.
Did he play in the 2007 ICC World Cup.
Get ready LB this is where I hand it over.
In that same world cup did he captain his side?
In that same world cup did he captain his side?
Yes.
I think you've probably found your man, JC.
But bear on mind that Loverboy is not the only contestant who lurks in wait for a steal at this stage of a round of Yes/No.
I'm not sure I entirely understand the question, so I shall reword the question and then answer it.
Has he played tests and/or international limited overs cricket at senior level?
Yes.
Has he played tests and/or international limited overs cricket at senior level?
Yes.
For future reference, in the absence of a more detailed question, I would answwer no if he either bowled or batted left handed.
Yes.
Yes.
Once again, for the benefit of newer players, when someone is so unspecific about this type of question, the assumption is that the reference is to first class average. And we use Cricinfo stats as our bible.
Yes.
Yes.
I feel a slip occuring soon though .
Did he play in Division One of said County Championship season ?
Go one tell me I've" done a Bell" and dropped the ball.
Did he play in Division One of said County Championship season ?
Go one tell me I've" done a Bell" and dropped the ball.
Does he have a better batting average than bowling average in his first class career?
Unfair question.
Batting averages are better the higher they are.
Bowling averages are better the lower they are.
While the answer is obvious in the case of some players, it is not obvious in the case of all players. How does one rate Botham's batting average compared with his bowwling average, for example?
Batting averages are better the higher they are.
Bowling averages are better the lower they are.
While the answer is obvious in the case of some players, it is not obvious in the case of all players. How does one rate Botham's batting average compared with his bowwling average, for example?
Sorry should have used higher rather than better. Hope I am still in play.
Yeessssssss!!
Well played, Pete.
We plough on - who wants first dips at Player D?
Well played, Pete.
We plough on - who wants first dips at Player D?
Did he play 13 or more games in the LVCC last season ?
Enjoy your lunch .
Enjoy your lunch .
Bit of a roll going here but I blew it yesterday on the Mal Loye one by going for the wrong Roses county .
So here we go , the one that will possibly blow me out or cut it to two or three players .
It's the biggun ... is he a left handed batsman ?
So here we go , the one that will possibly blow me out or cut it to two or three players .
It's the biggun ... is he a left handed batsman ?
You just had lunch !!!
Did he take a wicket in the LVCC last season ?
Squeeky bum time on this question !
Did he take a wicket in the LVCC last season ?
Squeeky bum time on this question !
So I can't have a cup of tea after my lunch?
I'll interpret your question to mean "did he take one or more wickets in LVCC"?
Yes.
I think Diamond might have his man.
I'll interpret your question to mean "did he take one or more wickets in LVCC"?
Yes.
I think Diamond might have his man.
Many peoples find of the season last year , a delight to watch perform and now MTHD , one of two MCCC players of the year 2007 ,I give you ladies and gentlemen ,"Dial M "...... Tim Murtagh.
Well played Diamond. Great long run there, for once resulting in a win for the marathon runner.
Four contestants now have one win each.
Who wants first go at Player E?
Four contestants now have one win each.
Who wants first go at Player E?
I'll give it some as nobody else seems to be about .
Assuming he is male , did he play for Middlesex last season ?
Assuming he is male , did he play for Middlesex last season ?
At that point where no question will help whittle down the very small number of players left, so I have to make a guess.
I will go for Andre Nel.
I will go for Andre Nel.
Well done Diamond, it is Dale Steyn.
onto PLAYER F and it's you go first Diamond!
Was waiting in wings to go for Steyn . until work interuption.
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
Thought you were about and up for the snatch Kev , as I was , no work today , very quiet . Sorry mate and to JC67 who once again did most of the slog on that one only to hit the wall in the last mile .
Is player F , F for foreign ?
Is player F , F for foreign ?
I have taken this to mean was he born outside the U.K so the answer is
Yes
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:01:09:14:47:45 by comebackgatt.
Yes
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:01:09:14:47:45 by comebackgatt.
This could get a bit misleading, so the player in question was not born in the UK but is qualified to play for England, so the answer to Diamond is
No
No
Spot on JC67, the leaderboard is looking very tight.
onwards and upwards, PLAYER G you are up first JC
onwards and upwards, PLAYER G you are up first JC
Thought I might fall at the last again as it was betweeen Ace and Ed J.
Did Mr.G play first class in 2007?
Did Mr.G play first class in 2007?
Well played JC67.
Yes, Player G played in the LVCC in 2007 for a county other than Middlesex.
For the avoifdance of doubt, once a contestant has won a particular round anyone can chime in with the first question for the next round. Usually it is the winner of the previous round as they are usually hanging around at the time, but ti doesn't have to be that person.
Yes, Player G played in the LVCC in 2007 for a county other than Middlesex.
For the avoifdance of doubt, once a contestant has won a particular round anyone can chime in with the first question for the next round. Usually it is the winner of the previous round as they are usually hanging around at the time, but ti doesn't have to be that person.
Ged, are you suggesting that I have nothing better to do with my life than hang around waiting to see if my quess is correct? Ah well if the cap fits I might as well wear it.
Is he England qualified?
Is he England qualified?
That went rather pear shaped didn't it people !
Has he played 20/20 for England?
Has he played 20/20 for England?
So he's not an International player then , was his County in Division One of the LVCC last season ?
did his conuty get relegated in LVCC last season?
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:01:12:13:38:04 by BarmierKev.
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:01:12:13:38:04 by BarmierKev.
No, his "conuty" will be in the 1st division in 2008. That only leaves a few conuties to choose from!
Sorry bad timing, withdwaw question until my turn
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:01:12:15:07:30 by JC67.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:01:12:15:07:30 by JC67.
No.
I'm amazed that no-one has twigged this one yet. I'm pretty sure that there are very few eligible people remaining.
I'm amazed that no-one has twigged this one yet. I'm pretty sure that there are very few eligible people remaining.
Well played, JC. I was surprised it took so long for someone to twig.
Onwards....ever onwards.....who wants first dips at Player H
Onwards....ever onwards.....who wants first dips at Player H
Is he a Middlesex player?
Got to "Cookie" after eiminating Hampshire from the eqation ,well done JC though , ball in hand as you go over the line ='s points.
Got to "Cookie" after eiminating Hampshire from the eqation ,well done JC though , ball in hand as you go over the line ='s points.
No test century, I'm afraid, JC.
This one might well be ready to be stolen.........
This one might well be ready to be stolen.........
Yes.
And with the gloves on, Adelaide, I'll be surprised if you drop this one now.
Unlike our man then?
sorry , I know it's out of turn but couldn't help myself !
Yes, well done Adelaide. This tournament remains wide open.
Anyone fancy taking the first go at:
Player I?
Anyone fancy taking the first go at:
Player I?
3rd 50/50 failure for me. I'm sticking to competitions where I'm the only entrant from now on
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
That certainly seems to improve your success rate, Kev. But you are still in with a chance in this competition.
Well done JC67, nipped in again after another Kev missed open goal, I think I am right in saying you need just one more for the Trophy JC.
on to PLAYER J
who will take first go!!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:01:16:14:33:15 by comebackgatt.
I should have asked "Am I correct that he is a wicketkeeper and legend"!
Player J - Am I correct that he is not a wicketkeeper?
Player J - Am I correct that he is not a wicketkeeper?
I will take it you mean currently on the staff, so the answer is no he is not a Middx player.
The sky may be blue today but it certainly wasn't yesterday!
Did he play in LVCC1 in 2007?
Did he play in LVCC1 in 2007?
I'll take that question to mean "does he play international cricket for a side other than England" rather than "was he born in England", but the question was borderline on being pipped as unfair for ambiguity.
Yes.
Yes.
what a guess, spot on. You are making a late charge for the trophy!!
okay onwards and upwards, PLAYER L
10 or more possibe answers and Adelaide gets it bang on without doing the "did he play for ... Northants ,Somerset etc process of elimination !
Fair play to you sir .
Is Player L English by birth ?
Fair play to you sir .
Is Player L English by birth ?
I retract my question ,second time this afternoon I've typed at the same time as someone else , I'll save the question but not the praise .
Adelaide, the answer is yes.
Diamond, must be quicker off the mark!!!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:01:18:17:01:43 by comebackgatt.
Diamond, must be quicker off the mark!!!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:01:18:17:01:43 by comebackgatt.
Adelaide is on a hat trick!
And fast catching up with JC at the top of the leader board.
Well done sir.
And fast catching up with JC at the top of the leader board.
Well done sir.
Well, i thought I'd change my usual Boycott style crawl, and Mr Symonds has been in the news...
Has the player never played test cricket?
Has the player never played test cricket?
From the Adelaide school of "go for it" , straight off the front foot ..... Andrew Strauss.
Yes, no longer a Middlesex player.
Just to remind everyone that if you guess a name incorrectly, you are then out of that round unless or until someone else guesses the name incorrectly.
Also to remind people that you are your own worst enemy if you couch your questions in convoluted negatives. I actually thought that Adelaide's earlier question deserved a yes, but I could see why ComebackGatt attributed it with a no.
Just to remind everyone that if you guess a name incorrectly, you are then out of that round unless or until someone else guesses the name incorrectly.
Also to remind people that you are your own worst enemy if you couch your questions in convoluted negatives. I actually thought that Adelaide's earlier question deserved a yes, but I could see why ComebackGatt attributed it with a no.
I did recall that rule Ged but can we all have a mod reminder on how recent a "retiree" will be . It's in the mix somewhere but this thing is huge(as the Bishop said to the actress).
On my planet (office) "Has the player never played test cricket?" would definitely not be considered convoluted.
But we're not on my planet!
I'm a bit confused now as to what the answer "No he has" actually meant. I would not object if it is not outside the rules to get it not unclear for not no-one!
But we're not on my planet!
I'm a bit confused now as to what the answer "No he has" actually meant. I would not object if it is not outside the rules to get it not unclear for not no-one!
Comeback is correct in saying no, as the player has played test cricket. My point was that my first thought was "yes, he has played test cricket". Hence my warning about making questions phrased in the negative very clear.
Sorry to deprive y'all of action - back in Sir Geoffrey mode again!
Did he play in LVCC1 in 2007?
Did he play in LVCC1 in 2007?
Did he play for a county that finished either 1st or 2nd in LVCC div 1 last season?
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
Unlikely to the point of being impossible, as we established through Adelaide's question of 19 Jan at 18:09 that he did not play LVCC1 in 2007.
Derr, my IQ of 170 prevents me from understanding simple concepts OK.
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
An affirmative answer to that question is not beyond the realms of possibility.
I think JC has one-and-three-quarter hands around the trophy.
I think JC has one-and-three-quarter hands around the trophy.
Champagne in beer jars.
Well played JC67 - you take the trophy.
Many, many congrats.
A suitable testimonial will go up on the published page for this game in the fulness of time - i.e. not during working hours.
Without running a poll on this, please comment on this thread if people want another tournament or if people feel that the game has run its course.
One idea that occurred to me is that no-one yet has achieved a hat-trick (Adelaide nearly did of late) so perhaps we can have a tourny oriented towards that.
Thoughts and comments welcome.
Well done indeed JC67,I told you to keep plugging away.
I am of the feeling that this competition in it's current form has now run it's course which is not to imply it could not be reintroduced in the next close season.
Perhaps a more straightforward test of knowledge similar to Pete's Quiz at the moment would appeal to more,with a system designed to give all an equal chance to compete,and remove the frustration and element of pot-luck involved in the Yes/No game.
I am of the feeling that this competition in it's current form has now run it's course which is not to imply it could not be reintroduced in the next close season.
Perhaps a more straightforward test of knowledge similar to Pete's Quiz at the moment would appeal to more,with a system designed to give all an equal chance to compete,and remove the frustration and element of pot-luck involved in the Yes/No game.
Thank you Ged and LB for your kind words and LB in particular in getting suspended so reducing the competition, but hold on a minute ''element of pot luck''.
More intuition and skill I would say!
Agree that the it might be put away until next close season as, although it appealed to me, it did not attract a high percentage of our readers.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:01:21:14:52:46 by JC67.
More intuition and skill I would say!
Agree that the it might be put away until next close season as, although it appealed to me, it did not attract a high percentage of our readers.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:01:21:14:52:46 by JC67.
I prefer games of skill, like Pistol P's quiz rather than pot luck games, like this ( even though this was my invention).
My results in respective competitions is purely incedental for this opinion.
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
My results in respective competitions is purely incedental for this opinion.
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
What I meant JC,a game where you do not have to be logged on 24 hours a day in case you miss your chance,nothing wrong with your skill and intuition.
Mr ''10%'',I think you found out that there's more to yes/no than meets the eye.
I envisage something along the lines of one question a day.All answer by PM between an allocated time say 9am-9pm each day so all have an equal chance.
The question setter can set at any time after 9 in the evening for the next day,and after say ten rounds see who's top of the league.
I realise that this involves some work by the those totting up scores,but if the mods took turns in administering on a daily basis,should not be too taxing.
Mr ''10%'',I think you found out that there's more to yes/no than meets the eye.
I envisage something along the lines of one question a day.All answer by PM between an allocated time say 9am-9pm each day so all have an equal chance.
The question setter can set at any time after 9 in the evening for the next day,and after say ten rounds see who's top of the league.
I realise that this involves some work by the those totting up scores,but if the mods took turns in administering on a daily basis,should not be too taxing.
JC ,well done fella , some serious knowledge there and some fine processes of elimination used.
I enjoyed the game it all it's formats and look forward to something similar , as already suggested maybe next closed season while we all wait for the Middlesex action to start in Div One of the LVCC , thanks to Ged and CBG for monitoring the game as well as Kev for coming up with the original idea .
I enjoyed the game it all it's formats and look forward to something similar , as already suggested maybe next closed season while we all wait for the Middlesex action to start in Div One of the LVCC , thanks to Ged and CBG for monitoring the game as well as Kev for coming up with the original idea .
I'll defer to other mod and/or users if you want a more sophisticated game. Yes/no stretches me to the limit time commitment-wise - I really need to concentrate on my work during normal office hours.
Happy for you to run games amongst yourselves if you wish.
Happy for you to run games amongst yourselves if you wish.
OK,if enough show interest,I'll set ten Middlesex based questions,one each day the way I,ve described and present a book prize to the winner.
But first let me know who's willing to play so I don't go to the trouble for nothing.
But first let me know who's willing to play so I don't go to the trouble for nothing.
Can I play? True to form I may score 1.
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
The Quiz goes ahead ,details on seperate thread.The proposed starting day is on Sunday,when the first question will appear.
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