Please Don't Play There Every Week


Not Somerset's favourite

By Dasher Denning
June 19 2014

Our friend from Somerset gives us his view on last night's T20 match. Not the best day for Somerset on and off the pitch as we hear as much about attempts to storm the Oval pavilion as the match. Good to get some perspective on how a win for us looks to the other side! Glad you got some decent beer eventually!

A week ago this was looking like the wooden spoon game in the T20 Blast South Group. To use an Americanism that the marketing people in English cricket seem to love so much, Middlesex were 0 and 6 and Somerset were 1 and 3 and both sets of supporters could be heard loudly saying “it’s the four day game that counts”. But two wins for Somerset over the weekend had taken the Wyverns to the heady heights of sixth as the two teams headed to, erm, The Oval.

A few weeks ago I spent some considerable time on Google without success trying to find out exactly why this fixture was being played south of the river. In the end, after trawling through pages and pages of threads on MTWD, I think I came to the conclusion that it was because they were originally down to play it at Richmond but the venue wasn’t deemed big enough. But then that theory bit the dust this morning when I read the BBC match report which said that it was played at The Oval because they wanted to play it under floodlights but they weren’t allowed to use the Lord’s floodlights. Whatever the reason, I found it a real shame that Middlesex didn’t use one of their home grounds for the game. While six losses may have been a factor, the size of the crowd really didn’t merit moving it down there (I’d imagine it was a loss maker for the club) and there was just a really sterile atmosphere despite the installation of the some big flame thrower things that went off with every six and four.

My mood wasn’t helped by a couple of other things. First, the Hanover Arms. Is there a worse pub on the county circuit? One pint of some awful flat washing up liquid that was allegedly Doombar was enough to make out party head into the ground early. We thought we’d head into the Pavilion as the beer selection was better and they’d have the football on. We had one Somerset membership, one Middlesex membership and a Gloucestershire one between four of us, which we thought would be enough given it was a neutral venue. The steward on one of the entrances decided he had to ask his boss if Somerset and Gloucestershire memberships were allowed, so we gave up on that and tried the main entrance. We had the same issues there but the man on the door wasn’t as officious as the other one and let us in. All good it seemed, Dark Star Hophead was on along with a local Surrey CCC ale (why don’t more clubs do this?) and the Australia-Holland match was entertaining. Then I got a text from a mate who was being refused entry despite having his Somerset membership on him. So I went down with my Somerset membership to see what the issue was and was told by some jobsworth that Somerset fans weren’t allowed in the Pavilion. There then followed a forthright exchange of views which included me pointing out that I had been in the Pavilion for the best part of an hour and also that cricket clubs always let away members into their Pavilion (not strictly true but given the Pavilion was far from busy I thought it was a fair one). It ended with me telling my mate to just walk in, at which point the jobsworth said he’d have me arrested if my mate came in and “it’s all on cctv” (quite what “it” was I’m not so sure

Anyway, we all ended up in the Pavilion, I didn’t get nicked and we proceeded to try and watch the cricket at the same time as watching Spain going out of the World Cup. The pitch looked a bit underprepared to my “expert” eye and the Somerset batsmen obviously shared my view as we never really got any momentum going and stumbled along to 150-odd off our twenty overs. With regards to Middlesex, I came to the same conclusions that I always do when I watch them – Ravi Patel looks a really good prospect, James Harris isn’t a T20 bowler and Rayner’s action looks very suspicious.

Yes we did win

And so to the second innings. When Treeeeeeeeeeeee-go pinned dangerman Malan LBW for 0 in the first over and Morgan went cheaply I thought we had a competitive score. But then Denly and Higgins seemed to find it a completely different pitch to all those who had batted previously and the operatives in charge of the flame throwers had to really earn their corn. Middlesex coasted home and we departed to The Beehive just before the end. I’d imagine after six straight losses you MTWD people will have been singing “can we play here every week” but please don’t.

Ah well, it’s the four day game that counts….

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Discussion started by Middlesex till we die , 19/06/2014 16:36
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WayOutWest
19/06/2014 18:25
Great, can you report every weeeeeeeeeeeeek?

BarmierKev
19/06/2014 18:29
Thanks for report Dasher. I'm appalled by the Oval Pavilion lack of flexibility. Mind you 6 of ours had a similar incident at Taunton a while back when the ground was packed.

I agree with Dasher and said this when fixture announced. Crowd wise and financially this venue a mistake. I feel it is better to fill an out ground. Then again Oval is now a home fortress so this venue maybe used again.

Finally, just as well it wasn't me that put the report up as headline with Higgins doing so well would be a play on his big break and Middlesex still needing 20/20 snookers.

Jonathan Winsky
19/06/2014 18:58
I assume that the reason why Middlesex have had to play two Twenty20 matches in one day at Lord's last month and play a home match at The Oval was due to there being fewer available match days at Lord's compared to previous years as a result of MCC marking the bicentenary of the ground by playing more of their own matches there compared to previous years. For example, they are playing Hertfordshire on Sunday and Rest of the World two weeks later.

Therefore, if the volume of MCC matches which take place at Lord's returns to a normal level in 2015, maybe Middlesex will be able to stage four or five match days there instead of the three held in 2014.

The double-header was a disaster from an on-field point of view (six hours after our Twenty20 campaign started, our record was played two, lost two) and the ground wasn't quite full, while last night's match at The Oval was surely a massive disappointment for our finance department despite the match result. Therefore, I imagine the club will be reluctant to repeat the two events.

Last night's match was intended to be played at The Oval ever since the fixtures were published, but was originally scheduled for tonight, and was brought forward due to England playing Uruguay tonight. However, the change seemed not to make much of a difference, as it still clashed with matches involving Spain, Netherlands and Australia. Australia's football team may not be the biggest pull, but some of the target market for Twenty20 matches hail from there.

The Diamond ruled ok
19/06/2014 19:18
Cheers DD.

Pots and kettles though mate re the pav.Your home ground has to be one of the least hospitable in the country on this score for away supporters.

Had no problem at the Fabrica de Gas getting in there with my Middlesex card......even though Surrey were playing Glamorgan earlier in the season.

chunkyinargyll
19/06/2014 21:07
Thanks for a good report Dasher.

I think there is an 'Alec Stewart' suite or something similar.

At a test match a couple of years ago Alec Stewart himself was refused entry to his own suite because he didn't have any ID on him, and the jobsworth didn't recognise him!



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Jonathan Winsky
19/06/2014 22:42
I don't know about others, but I thoroughly enjoyed this match what with the result and the lack of drunk people, as bad as the absence of the latter is for Middlesex's finances.

I know David Lloyd has had problems with the Old Trafford Pavilion since the ground has been redeveloped, and was once ordered out of a room by a steward security guard while he was looking at old photos. However, Allan Lamb has had little problem getting into a suite at Wantage Road bearing his name, as he once attended a speed awareness course there.

Seaxe_Man
20/06/2014 10:39
Thanks Dasher. I had the pleasure of seeing your namesake bat against the Middle back in the 70's and 80's. Sadly no longer with us.

The situation as regards playing our T20 home match at the Fabrica de Gas, is a little more complicated.

I summarise: MCC say that only 3 T20 matches are viable at Lord's. Beyond that, ticket sales are insufficient.

So on paper, not grass. We play 3 at HQ and 4 elsewhere.

We got around that to a degree by having a double header on day 1, for which I hope the ECB gave us a bung for our trouble.

The favoured three for ticket sales btw are Essex, Sussex and Surrey.

Use of the floodlights may have been an issue but the main criteria was: using the Fabrica de Gas as an outground was in the hope of filling it.

This would represent a potential profit of 200grand as against maybe 20 grand at any of our other outgrounds.

The WC, playing Wed instead of Fri and our results militated against any prospect of that: apart from the fact Surrey assured us they could sell it out.

Personally, I found the balcony of the OCS as our pavilion, excellent viewing, as was the game with Ryan Higgins and Joe coming to the party.

Also pleasing was the number of Middlesex members who turned up to support a form of the game alleged to be infra dig. They were rewarded of this occasion for their trouble.

I suspect also, that Uxbridge and not Richmond was the alternative for this game. Richmond are hosting Glamorgan on the 3rd of July, a Thursday.

Tonight we play at the Chelmsford bearpit and it is on Sky. I trust that Ryan Higgins will be retained. The bloke was a breath of freshair.



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Fozzie
20/06/2014 13:11
I was collecting at the match for Middlesex's partner charity Shooting Star Chase children's hospices, and watched the match in the company of three female fellow-collectors who had never been to a cricket match before. Admittedly, the circumstances were pretty much ideal - a great view from an executive box in the OCS, lovely weather and an entertaining match, and I think it helped that I was able to explain the game and tell them about the Middlesex players. But they all really enjoyed it and said that they would be happy to go to a match again. One of the aims of T20 was to attract a new audience, and it did make me see the format in a different light - I suspect that a full day at a LVCC match would not have the same appeal.

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